Muslim ban - blunt instrument

[Tilly]

sometimes a blunt instrument works just fine

How would this one work ?

that's easy

it limits terrorism to the home grown variety only and stops the importation of Jihad by foreigners

But most of the recent atrocities have been done by European born nutters. This ban would not keep them out.

What are you blaberring now? This guy was a homegrown Islamic terrorist, who's parents came here from a Muslim country. So there goes the theory that they assimilate over time.

Well the evidence is that the vast majority do assimilate.
But back to the OP - trumps muslim ban would not have kept this dickhead out. Nor the Paris bombers , nor the Brussels bombers nor the 9/11 killers.

His muslim ban is a piece of shit designed to pander to thick fuckers.

There are different types of Islamic terrorists. Some are homegrown and some aren't. Why are you so dense???
And what Muslim ban???

 

[Tommy Tainant]

How would this one work ?

that's easy

it limits terrorism to the home grown variety only and stops the importation of Jihad by foreigners

But most of the recent atrocities have been done by European born nutters. This ban would not keep them out.

What are you blaberring now? This guy was a homegrown Islamic terrorist, who's parents came here from a Muslim country. So there goes the theory that they assimilate over time.

Well the evidence is that the vast majority do assimilate.
But back to the OP - trumps muslim ban would not have kept this dickhead out. Nor the Paris bombers , nor the Brussels bombers nor the 9/11 killers.

His muslim ban is a piece of shit designed to pander to thick fuckers.

so what?

The vast majority of gun owners will never kill anyone with a gun but that doesn't matter to you people

the fact is no country has any obligation whatsoever to allow any foreign nationals to immigrate

and if a muslim ban even stops one person from being a victim isn't that enough?

The muslim ban provides no protection to anybody. Its just racist grandstanding from a president bereft of humanity or ideas.

 

[Tilly]

that's easy

it limits terrorism to the home grown variety only and stops the importation of Jihad by foreigners

But most of the recent atrocities have been done by European born nutters. This ban would not keep them out.

What are you blaberring now? This guy was a homegrown Islamic terrorist, who's parents came here from a Muslim country. So there goes the theory that they assimilate over time.

Well the evidence is that the vast majority do assimilate.
But back to the OP - trumps muslim ban would not have kept this dickhead out. Nor the Paris bombers , nor the Brussels bombers nor the 9/11 killers.

His muslim ban is a piece of shit designed to pander to thick fuckers.

so what?

The vast majority of gun owners will never kill anyone with a gun but that doesn't matter to you people

the fact is no country has any obligation whatsoever to allow any foreign nationals to immigrate

and if a muslim ban even stops one person from being a victim isn't that enough?

The muslim ban provides no protection to anybody. Its just racist grandstanding from a president bereft of humanity or ideas.

There is no Muslim ban.

 

[Lastamender]

that's easy

it limits terrorism to the home grown variety only and stops the importation of Jihad by foreigners

But most of the recent atrocities have been done by European born nutters. This ban would not keep them out.

What are you blaberring now? This guy was a homegrown Islamic terrorist, who's parents came here from a Muslim country. So there goes the theory that they assimilate over time.

Well the evidence is that the vast majority do assimilate.
But back to the OP - trumps muslim ban would not have kept this dickhead out. Nor the Paris bombers , nor the Brussels bombers nor the 9/11 killers.

His muslim ban is a piece of shit designed to pander to thick fuckers.

so what?

The vast majority of gun owners will never kill anyone with a gun but that doesn't matter to you people

the fact is no country has any obligation whatsoever to allow any foreign nationals to immigrate

and if a muslim ban even stops one person from being a victim isn't that enough?

The muslim ban provides no protection to anybody. Its just racist grandstanding from a president bereft of humanity or ideas.

If all Muslims were banned, it would, and you know it.

 

[Unkotare]

that's easy

it limits terrorism to the home grown variety only and stops the importation of Jihad by foreigners

But most of the recent atrocities have been done by European born nutters. This ban would not keep them out.

What are you blaberring now? This guy was a homegrown Islamic terrorist, who's parents came here from a Muslim country. So there goes the theory that they assimilate over time.

Well the evidence is that the vast majority do assimilate.
But back to the OP - trumps muslim ban would not have kept this dickhead out. Nor the Paris bombers , nor the Brussels bombers nor the 9/11 killers.

His muslim ban is a piece of shit designed to pander to thick fuckers.

so what?

The vast majority of gun owners will never kill anyone with a gun but that doesn't matter to you people

the fact is no country has any obligation whatsoever to allow any foreign nationals to immigrate

and if a muslim ban even stops one person from being a victim isn't that enough?

The muslim ban provides no protection to anybody. Its just racist grandstanding from a president bereft of humanity or ideas.

False premise & mindless hyper partisanship.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The London attacker was born in Kent and would not have been stopped by Trumps muslim ban.

However I do believe his previous criminal record would have meant that he would have been refused entry under previous regulations.


Khalid Masood was known to police but not subject of surveillance
Masood, 52, was born in Kent and detectives believe he was most recently living in the West Midlands. Masood was also known by a number of aliases, police said in a statement.

Scotland Yard said Masood was not the subject of any current investigations and there was no prior intelligence about his intent to mount a terrorist attack.

However, he was known to police and had a range of previous convictions for assaults, including GBH, possession of offensive weapons and public order offences.

His first conviction was in November 1983 for criminal damage and his last conviction was in December 2003 for possession of a knife.

He had not been convicted for any terrorism offences.

Anyone with any information about Masood can call the anti-terrorist hotline 0800 789 321.

Trumps muslim ban is just pandering to the low intelligence types who voted for him.

If you want to discuss low intelligence take a good look at your country and the towering intellects that have turned the UK into a shithole.

The topic is the effectiveness of Trumps muslim ban. Stay on topic.

Clean up your shithole, then we will talk about Trump.

Ah, deflection, the argument of people without arguments.

What is the argument? That a US travel ban would stop terror? That is silly, terrorists are in every free country already. But it will undoubtedly keep some out and that is a good thing.

That the UK has no balls is entirely their fault.

Will it keep them out? How many attacks from those 7 countries Trump named have happened in the US?

None. That's in the last 16 years.


He wants to keep people safe by banning people who haven't caused any attacks, while making it EASIER for those who kill 10,000 a year with guns.... right.....

 

[frigidweirdo]

Probably because liberals think in a different way to you.

Liberals think that religion should be FREE and that just because someone is a Muslim, doesn't mean they're anti-gay, the same as if someone is a Christian, doesn't automatically make them gay. Also, liberals understand that when people from countries that are backwards get to see a more modern country, they're more likely to change their views and potentially help change their home country too.

But hey, you needn't worry about such thought processes.

So liberals think that letting in large groups of people who think gays are sick people who should be tortured, imprisoned, killed, or forced into sex change operations where their penises are removed, is a good idea, and somehow helps the gay rights movement, eh? That's like saying lets let's let more white racists from apartheid South Africa, maybe when they end up living here for a while they'll start liking black people.

Ya gotta love that liberal logic.

Maybe some people think this. That isn't the point I was making. But you know that anyway and you know you're trying to twist things.

However Muslims in the UK, 50% of them never go to a Mosque. How's that if they don't change?

It's the Islamic culture, dumbass. It permeates every aspect of their life. You've never been to the Middle East, have you.

Oh, wow, insults.

Sorry....Didn't mean to insult the dumbasses of the world.

Oh, wow, insults AND now ignore list.

 

[Lastamender]

If you want to discuss low intelligence take a good look at your country and the towering intellects that have turned the UK into a shithole.

The topic is the effectiveness of Trumps muslim ban. Stay on topic.

Clean up your shithole, then we will talk about Trump.

Ah, deflection, the argument of people without arguments.

What is the argument? That a US travel ban would stop terror? That is silly, terrorists are in every free country already. But it will undoubtedly keep some out and that is a good thing.

That the UK has no balls is entirely their fault.

Will it keep them out? How many attacks from those 7 countries Trump named have happened in the US?

None. That's in the last 16 years.


He wants to keep people safe by banning people who haven't caused any attacks, while making it EASIER for those who kill 10,000 a year with guns.... right.....

Report: 72 Convicted of Terror Charges From Countries Named in Travel Ban

Report: 72 Convicted of Terror Charges From Countries Named in Travel Ban

Try again.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The topic is the effectiveness of Trumps muslim ban. Stay on topic.

Clean up your shithole, then we will talk about Trump.

Ah, deflection, the argument of people without arguments.

What is the argument? That a US travel ban would stop terror? That is silly, terrorists are in every free country already. But it will undoubtedly keep some out and that is a good thing.

That the UK has no balls is entirely their fault.

Will it keep them out? How many attacks from those 7 countries Trump named have happened in the US?

None. That's in the last 16 years.


He wants to keep people safe by banning people who haven't caused any attacks, while making it EASIER for those who kill 10,000 a year with guns.... right.....

Report: 72 Convicted of Terror Charges From Countries Named in Travel Ban

Report: 72 Convicted of Terror Charges From Countries Named in Travel Ban

Yes, and they've been caught. Which means there's something already in place. So why make a ban which isn't going to add anything worth while?

 

[Lastamender]

Clean up your shithole, then we will talk about Trump.

Ah, deflection, the argument of people without arguments.

What is the argument? That a US travel ban would stop terror? That is silly, terrorists are in every free country already. But it will undoubtedly keep some out and that is a good thing.

That the UK has no balls is entirely their fault.

Will it keep them out? How many attacks from those 7 countries Trump named have happened in the US?

None. That's in the last 16 years.


He wants to keep people safe by banning people who haven't caused any attacks, while making it EASIER for those who kill 10,000 a year with guns.... right.....

Report: 72 Convicted of Terror Charges From Countries Named in Travel Ban

Report: 72 Convicted of Terror Charges From Countries Named in Travel Ban

Yes, and they've been caught. Which means there's something already in place. So why make a ban which isn't going to add anything worth while?

Experts from Obamas administration said the refugees are peppered with terrorists. What part of that don't you understand? Trump is adding nothing and that includes terrorists.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Ah, deflection, the argument of people without arguments.

What is the argument? That a US travel ban would stop terror? That is silly, terrorists are in every free country already. But it will undoubtedly keep some out and that is a good thing.

That the UK has no balls is entirely their fault.

Will it keep them out? How many attacks from those 7 countries Trump named have happened in the US?

None. That's in the last 16 years.


He wants to keep people safe by banning people who haven't caused any attacks, while making it EASIER for those who kill 10,000 a year with guns.... right.....

Report: 72 Convicted of Terror Charges From Countries Named in Travel Ban

Report: 72 Convicted of Terror Charges From Countries Named in Travel Ban

Yes, and they've been caught. Which means there's something already in place. So why make a ban which isn't going to add anything worth while?

Experts from Obamas administration said the refugees are peppered with terrorists. What part of that don't you understand? Trump is adding nothing and that includes terrorists.

And how many of these have got in, evaded notice and gone on a killing spree?

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Trumps muslim ban is just pandering to the low intelligence types who voted for him

Since it's not a Muslim ban, the only pandering going on to eager low IQ types like yourself is the mainstream media pushing this Muslim ban lie.

Donald Trump calls for complete ban on Muslims entering the US – video

Means squat. Constitution gives the Resident the authority. You're not very bright if you can't read a simple sentence.

 

[Skull Pilot]

that's easy

it limits terrorism to the home grown variety only and stops the importation of Jihad by foreigners

But most of the recent atrocities have been done by European born nutters. This ban would not keep them out.

What are you blaberring now? This guy was a homegrown Islamic terrorist, who's parents came here from a Muslim country. So there goes the theory that they assimilate over time.

Well the evidence is that the vast majority do assimilate.
But back to the OP - trumps muslim ban would not have kept this dickhead out. Nor the Paris bombers , nor the Brussels bombers nor the 9/11 killers.

His muslim ban is a piece of shit designed to pander to thick fuckers.

so what?

The vast majority of gun owners will never kill anyone with a gun but that doesn't matter to you people

the fact is no country has any obligation whatsoever to allow any foreign nationals to immigrate

and if a muslim ban even stops one person from being a victim isn't that enough?

The muslim ban provides no protection to anybody. Its just racist grandstanding from a president bereft of humanity or ideas.

I have no problem with any country setting limits or even bans on who is allowed to enter.
And if it keeps out some of the riff raff all the better

 

[Skull Pilot]

If you want to discuss low intelligence take a good look at your country and the towering intellects that have turned the UK into a shithole.

The topic is the effectiveness of Trumps muslim ban. Stay on topic.

Clean up your shithole, then we will talk about Trump.

Ah, deflection, the argument of people without arguments.

What is the argument? That a US travel ban would stop terror? That is silly, terrorists are in every free country already. But it will undoubtedly keep some out and that is a good thing.

That the UK has no balls is entirely their fault.

Will it keep them out? How many attacks from those 7 countries Trump named have happened in the US?

None. That's in the last 16 years.


He wants to keep people safe by banning people who haven't caused any attacks, while making it EASIER for those who kill 10,000 a year with guns.... right.....

who has killed 10000 people with a guns?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Trumps muslim ban is just pandering to the low intelligence types who voted for him

Since it's not a Muslim ban, the only pandering going on to eager low IQ types like yourself is the mainstream media pushing this Muslim ban lie.

Donald Trump calls for complete ban on Muslims entering the US – video

Means squat. Constitution gives the Resident the authority. You're not very bright if you can't read a simple sentence.

Have to ask why,or how, he has fucked it up ?

 

[Skull Pilot]

What is the argument? That a US travel ban would stop terror? That is silly, terrorists are in every free country already. But it will undoubtedly keep some out and that is a good thing.

That the UK has no balls is entirely their fault.

Will it keep them out? How many attacks from those 7 countries Trump named have happened in the US?

None. That's in the last 16 years.


He wants to keep people safe by banning people who haven't caused any attacks, while making it EASIER for those who kill 10,000 a year with guns.... right.....

Report: 72 Convicted of Terror Charges From Countries Named in Travel Ban

Report: 72 Convicted of Terror Charges From Countries Named in Travel Ban

Yes, and they've been caught. Which means there's something already in place. So why make a ban which isn't going to add anything worth while?

Experts from Obamas administration said the refugees are peppered with terrorists. What part of that don't you understand? Trump is adding nothing and that includes terrorists.

And how many of these have got in, evaded notice and gone on a killing spree?

San Bernadino

 

[frigidweirdo]

The topic is the effectiveness of Trumps muslim ban. Stay on topic.

Clean up your shithole, then we will talk about Trump.

Ah, deflection, the argument of people without arguments.

What is the argument? That a US travel ban would stop terror? That is silly, terrorists are in every free country already. But it will undoubtedly keep some out and that is a good thing.

That the UK has no balls is entirely their fault.

Will it keep them out? How many attacks from those 7 countries Trump named have happened in the US?

None. That's in the last 16 years.


He wants to keep people safe by banning people who haven't caused any attacks, while making it EASIER for those who kill 10,000 a year with guns.... right.....

who has killed 10000 people with a guns?

Americans.

Every year there are plenty of gun murders.

15,600 murders in 2015, about 3/4 of all murders are with guns.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Clean up your shithole, then we will talk about Trump.

Ah, deflection, the argument of people without arguments.

What is the argument? That a US travel ban would stop terror? That is silly, terrorists are in every free country already. But it will undoubtedly keep some out and that is a good thing.

That the UK has no balls is entirely their fault.

Will it keep them out? How many attacks from those 7 countries Trump named have happened in the US?

None. That's in the last 16 years.


He wants to keep people safe by banning people who haven't caused any attacks, while making it EASIER for those who kill 10,000 a year with guns.... right.....

who has killed 10000 people with a guns?

Americans.

Every year there are plenty of gun murders.

15,600 murders in 2015, about 3/4 of all murders are with guns.

so a small number of people killing a small number of people is the same as allowing terrorists into the country?

and about 70% of all murders are committed by people with criminal records not by law abiding gun owners

 

[Mudda]

The London attacker was born in Kent and would not have been stopped by Trumps muslim ban.

However I do believe his previous criminal record would have meant that he would have been refused entry under previous regulations.


Khalid Masood was known to police but not subject of surveillance
Masood, 52, was born in Kent and detectives believe he was most recently living in the West Midlands. Masood was also known by a number of aliases, police said in a statement.

Scotland Yard said Masood was not the subject of any current investigations and there was no prior intelligence about his intent to mount a terrorist attack.

However, he was known to police and had a range of previous convictions for assaults, including GBH, possession of offensive weapons and public order offences.

His first conviction was in November 1983 for criminal damage and his last conviction was in December 2003 for possession of a knife.

He had not been convicted for any terrorism offences.

Anyone with any information about Masood can call the anti-terrorist hotline 0800 789 321.

Trumps muslim ban is just pandering to the low intelligence types who voted for him.

The US should ban muslims from the UK, if not all the wankers from there. Which would be too bad for you.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The London attacker was born in Kent and would not have been stopped by Trumps muslim ban.

However I do believe his previous criminal record would have meant that he would have been refused entry under previous regulations.


Khalid Masood was known to police but not subject of surveillance
Masood, 52, was born in Kent and detectives believe he was most recently living in the West Midlands. Masood was also known by a number of aliases, police said in a statement.

Scotland Yard said Masood was not the subject of any current investigations and there was no prior intelligence about his intent to mount a terrorist attack.

However, he was known to police and had a range of previous convictions for assaults, including GBH, possession of offensive weapons and public order offences.

His first conviction was in November 1983 for criminal damage and his last conviction was in December 2003 for possession of a knife.

He had not been convicted for any terrorism offences.

Anyone with any information about Masood can call the anti-terrorist hotline 0800 789 321.

Trumps muslim ban is just pandering to the low intelligence types who voted for him.

The US should ban muslims from the UK, if not all the wankers from there. Which would be too bad for you.

Lol - we are ok because the orange rodent has business interests here. That gives us the same immunity as those benign people from Saudi.