My older daughter, a teacher, called me last night...

[HereWeGoAgain]

Leave it unlocked?
When you close it it locks automatically dumbass.
And unless the kid brought a cutting torch to school they wont be getting into the safe.
And no an AR-15 is not a machine gun.

You call an AR-15 a machine gun and you post a vid of an M-16......pure genius.

 

[Desperado]

98% of teachers don’t want guns in their classrooms.

Do You have a link or are you just pulling the 98% out of thin air?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Leave it unlocked?
When you close it it locks automatically dumbass.
And unless the kid brought a cutting torch to school they wont be getting into the safe.
And no an AR-15 is not a machine gun.

You call an AR-15 a machine gun and you post a vid of an M-16......pure genius.

but...but...they look the same...sort of...

 

[Theowl32]

.... uncharacteristically shaken after going through "shooter training" at school. She said all the female teachers were crying, a mess.

Shooter training.

"What it all boils down to, is that there's not much we can do, dad", she said. "They're going through and putting interior locks on classroom doors. Outside of that, you just have to hope the shooter doesn't find you."

I asked her about guns, and whether she supported the idea of giving teachers the option of having guns. "Hell yes," she said, and they had talked about that in training. She doesn't support it being mandatory, but definitely agreed that if some number of teachers did want to do it, it would help. She would do it.

So that was my Friday evening conversation with my daughter. They're usually a little different.
.

There really is no solution. That is the reality of it. Strict gun control? That did not stop some of the deadliest attacks in Paris and Norway. Both of which were deadlier than anything that ever happened here.

What if there were no such thing as guns? Well, I seem to remember planes and box cutters being used to commit the worst terror attack ever and also seem to remember another attack that used fertilizer. I also seem to remember a bomb being used in England at some sluts concert, and a box truck in France.

Our world is cynical. There is too much information being passed around on the internet. We are worse than the wild wild west of the 1800s. Far worse and there is no real answer.

 

[jillian]

Leave it unlocked?
When you close it it locks automatically dumbass.
And unless the kid brought a cutting torch to school they wont be getting into the safe.
And no an AR-15 is not a machine gun.

You call an AR-15 a machine gun and you post a vid of an M-16......pure genius.

awwwwwwww ... because that's what's relevant to the discussion, right?

hint: most people don't spend all their time drooling over Guns and Ammo.

 

[Esmeralda]

.... uncharacteristically shaken after going through "shooter training" at school. She said all the female teachers were crying, a mess.

Shooter training.

"What it all boils down to, is that there's not much we can do, dad", she said. "They're going through and putting interior locks on classroom doors. Outside of that, you just have to hope the shooter doesn't find you."

I asked her about guns, and whether she supported the idea of giving teachers the option of having guns. "Hell yes," she said, and they had talked about that in training. She doesn't support it being mandatory, but definitely agreed that if some number of teachers did want to do it, it would help. She would do it.

So that was my Friday evening conversation with my daughter. They're usually a little different.
.

As a teacher, of 30 years, I completely disagree with her, and I think most teachers would. Teachers can't control all students at all times: there is far too much chance of a student getting his/her hands on a teacher's gun.

So how would the student get in to a biometric gun safe?

1) You are going to pay for it? 2) If the teacher and his/her students are under fire, does he/she have time to get the gun free in order to protect them? and 3) how many parents are going to have a say in if the school teachers are armed and how many do you think would vote for it? Not most. I know. Parents don't want non-police professionals armed and guns floating around the school.

You really dont know shit about guns or gun safes do you?

That doesn't matter. If a teacher can get to the gun, so can a wiley student. Arming teachers is an intensely stupid idea. More guns in our country does not mean more safety.

 

[Norman]

Drownings in bath tubes 2010: slightly less than 100.

School shooting victims year 2017: less than 30.


Indeed you have a better chance at drowning in bath tube than dying in school shooting. Yet your daughter is shaking.

Maybe she shouldn't buy into the far left agenda so hard. Keep herself in the observable reality and all that.

The situation is so overblown only because the political interest of taking away people's guns. People without guns are a synonym for sheep, and farming sheep is profitable endeavor.

School shooting deaths in 2018...40 in less than 2 months.

Let's see if school shootings kill more than bath tubes this year.

I can't stop reading about this anti-gun rhetoric because the fatalities, but no one seems to be focusing on bath tubes, or any other of the myriad things that kill way more people each year.

That's the first sign the leftists want the guns banned and couldn't give a fuck about the kids. Just like they couldn't give a fuch about this clearly troubled teenager who even laid out the plan bare for all to see. He probably received the full torturous leftist public school experience, which may have even lead to the deed.

 

[Esmeralda]

.... uncharacteristically shaken after going through "shooter training" at school. She said all the female teachers were crying, a mess.

Shooter training.

"What it all boils down to, is that there's not much we can do, dad", she said. "They're going through and putting interior locks on classroom doors. Outside of that, you just have to hope the shooter doesn't find you."

I asked her about guns, and whether she supported the idea of giving teachers the option of having guns. "Hell yes," she said, and they had talked about that in training. She doesn't support it being mandatory, but definitely agreed that if some number of teachers did want to do it, it would help. She would do it.

So that was my Friday evening conversation with my daughter. They're usually a little different.
.

There really is no solution. That is the reality of it. Strict gun control? That did not stop some of the deadliest attacks in Paris and Norway. Both of which were deadlier than anything that ever happened here.

What if there were no such thing as guns? Well, I seem to remember planes and box cutters being used to commit the worst terror attack ever and also seem to remember another attack that used fertilizer. I also seem to remember a bomb being used in England at some sluts concert, and a box truck in France.

Our world is cynical. There is too much information being passed around on the internet. We are worse than the wild wild west of the 1800s. Far worse and there is no real answer.

Discussing terrorist attacks is not relevant to this discussion and is deflection. The two types of incidents (school shootings and terrorism) are not analogous.

 

[JoeB131]

You call an AR-15 a machine gun and you post a vid of an M-16......pure genius.

They are effectively the same weapon... but never mind.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

.... uncharacteristically shaken after going through "shooter training" at school. She said all the female teachers were crying, a mess.

Shooter training.

"What it all boils down to, is that there's not much we can do, dad", she said. "They're going through and putting interior locks on classroom doors. Outside of that, you just have to hope the shooter doesn't find you."

I asked her about guns, and whether she supported the idea of giving teachers the option of having guns. "Hell yes," she said, and they had talked about that in training. She doesn't support it being mandatory, but definitely agreed that if some number of teachers did want to do it, it would help. She would do it.

So that was my Friday evening conversation with my daughter. They're usually a little different.
.

There really is no solution. That is the reality of it. Strict gun control? That did not stop some of the deadliest attacks in Paris and Norway. Both of which were deadlier than anything that ever happened here.

What if there were no such thing as guns? Well, I seem to remember planes and box cutters being used to commit the worst terror attack ever and also seem to remember another attack that used fertilizer. I also seem to remember a bomb being used in England at some sluts concert, and a box truck in France.

Our world is cynical. There is too much information being passed around on the internet. We are worse than the wild wild west of the 1800s. Far worse and there is no real answer.

We are a society that glorifies violence and death and we have more guns that people in this country. Why is anyone surprised when this happens?

 

[Norman]

.... uncharacteristically shaken after going through "shooter training" at school. She said all the female teachers were crying, a mess.

Shooter training.

"What it all boils down to, is that there's not much we can do, dad", she said. "They're going through and putting interior locks on classroom doors. Outside of that, you just have to hope the shooter doesn't find you."

I asked her about guns, and whether she supported the idea of giving teachers the option of having guns. "Hell yes," she said, and they had talked about that in training. She doesn't support it being mandatory, but definitely agreed that if some number of teachers did want to do it, it would help. She would do it.

So that was my Friday evening conversation with my daughter. They're usually a little different.
.

There really is no solution. That is the reality of it. Strict gun control? That did not stop some of the deadliest attacks in Paris and Norway. Both of which were deadlier than anything that ever happened here.

What if there were no such thing as guns? Well, I seem to remember planes and box cutters being used to commit the worst terror attack ever and also seem to remember another attack that used fertilizer. I also seem to remember a bomb being used in England at some sluts concert, and a box truck in France.

Our world is cynical. There is too much information being passed around on the internet. We are worse than the wild wild west of the 1800s. Far worse and there is no real answer.

Discussing terrorist attacks is not relevant to this discussion and is deflection. The two types of incidents (school shootings and terrorism) are not analogous.

I fail to see how terrorist shootings and school shootings aren't both gun violence.

But thanks so much for clearing it up. I bet you are completely obsessed with guns and gun violence, yet can't see the similarities here.

 

[JoeB131]

There really is no solution. That is the reality of it. Strict gun control? That did not stop some of the deadliest attacks in Paris and Norway. Both of which were deadlier than anything that ever happened here.

They also happened years and years ago... This is nearly a weekly thing in this country.

What if there were no such thing as guns? Well, I seem to remember planes and box cutters being used to commit the worst terror attack ever and also seem to remember another attack that used fertilizer. I also seem to remember a bomb being used in England at some sluts concert, and a box truck in France.

Okay, but here's the thing.

After the box cutter attack, they put steel doors on airplanes, replaced the minimum wage rent-a-cops with professional TSA agents, came up with more thorough inspection techniques for people getting on planes, created a no-fly list of people who they didn't want on planes (these people are still perfectly free to buy guns, though.)

After the fertilizer attack, they put new restrictions on who could buy fertilizer and tracked who was buying it to make sure they were really farmers.

with guns, though, every attack, almost weekly, and we loosen restrictions on guns and wonder why the numbers of these attacks increase.

 

[Norman]

There really is no solution. That is the reality of it. Strict gun control? That did not stop some of the deadliest attacks in Paris and Norway. Both of which were deadlier than anything that ever happened here.

They also happened years and years ago... This is nearly a weekly thing in this country.

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And the fatalities are more than all the school shootings combined since decades ago.

At least in the USA the population has guns to defend themselves.

By the way, school shootings happen in Europe too, so there you go...

 

[Theowl32]

98% of teachers don’t want guns in their classrooms.

Do You have a link or are you just pulling the 98% out of thin air?

Want to bet all of these pathetic liberals would all wish they had a gun next to them if they ever heard someone breaking into their homes?

One thing you can count on from liberals. Especially ones like this reasonable loser who obviously lives safely ensconced behind walls in a private community guarded by armed guards. They have no real ability to consider the situation they may be in. Never. They simply presume everyone lives like them and the notion of someone breaking into their homes is a big myth. Never happen with them. So their answers are filled with a complete lack of empathy.

We live in an increasingly godless shitty world. A copycat world where there are hundreds of kids that want to and are planning to do something similar right now. Most of these attacks will occur in gun free zones. That is also a fact. I guess the left keeps ignoring that fact as well.

If only the pathetic left understood that their democrat socialist gods are only trying to disarm legal citizens and they use these situations to perpetuate their globalist agenda. They all pretend it is about safety. Everything they do is about the control of the masses. Everything, they do.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Let's see if school shootings kill more than bath tubes this year.

I can't stop reading about this anti-gun rhetoric because the fatalities, but no one seems to be focusing on bath tubes, or any other of the myriad things that kill way more people each year.

That's the first sign the leftists want the guns banned and couldn't give a fuck about the kids. Just like they couldn't give a fuch about this clearly troubled teenager who even laid out the plan bare for all to see. He probably received the full torturous leftist public school experience, which may have even lead to the deed.

Look, if you go back and read any of the threads on this you will find I am a suppoter of the 2nd amendment and am not trying to take away anyone's guns.

But what I am not a supporter of is stupid arguments and that is what this is. The idea that we cannot care about school shootings because more people die in bathtubs is fucking ignorant. 5000 people a year die from choking on food, so I guess we cannot care about bathtub deaths till we care about those people in your partisan addled mind.

Anyone that has not sold their soul to a fucking political party should be able to have a discussion about the problem that is school shootings...but I guess that does not apply to you.

 

[Theowl32]

.... uncharacteristically shaken after going through "shooter training" at school. She said all the female teachers were crying, a mess.

Shooter training.

"What it all boils down to, is that there's not much we can do, dad", she said. "They're going through and putting interior locks on classroom doors. Outside of that, you just have to hope the shooter doesn't find you."

I asked her about guns, and whether she supported the idea of giving teachers the option of having guns. "Hell yes," she said, and they had talked about that in training. She doesn't support it being mandatory, but definitely agreed that if some number of teachers did want to do it, it would help. She would do it.

So that was my Friday evening conversation with my daughter. They're usually a little different.
.

There really is no solution. That is the reality of it. Strict gun control? That did not stop some of the deadliest attacks in Paris and Norway. Both of which were deadlier than anything that ever happened here.

What if there were no such thing as guns? Well, I seem to remember planes and box cutters being used to commit the worst terror attack ever and also seem to remember another attack that used fertilizer. I also seem to remember a bomb being used in England at some sluts concert, and a box truck in France.

Our world is cynical. There is too much information being passed around on the internet. We are worse than the wild wild west of the 1800s. Far worse and there is no real answer.

Discussing terrorist attacks is not relevant to this discussion and is deflection. The two types of incidents (school shootings and terrorism) are not analogous.

Holy fucking shit I hate liberals.

 

[Theowl32]

.... uncharacteristically shaken after going through "shooter training" at school. She said all the female teachers were crying, a mess.

Shooter training.

"What it all boils down to, is that there's not much we can do, dad", she said. "They're going through and putting interior locks on classroom doors. Outside of that, you just have to hope the shooter doesn't find you."

I asked her about guns, and whether she supported the idea of giving teachers the option of having guns. "Hell yes," she said, and they had talked about that in training. She doesn't support it being mandatory, but definitely agreed that if some number of teachers did want to do it, it would help. She would do it.

So that was my Friday evening conversation with my daughter. They're usually a little different.
.

There really is no solution. That is the reality of it. Strict gun control? That did not stop some of the deadliest attacks in Paris and Norway. Both of which were deadlier than anything that ever happened here.

What if there were no such thing as guns? Well, I seem to remember planes and box cutters being used to commit the worst terror attack ever and also seem to remember another attack that used fertilizer. I also seem to remember a bomb being used in England at some sluts concert, and a box truck in France.

Our world is cynical. There is too much information being passed around on the internet. We are worse than the wild wild west of the 1800s. Far worse and there is no real answer.

Discussing terrorist attacks is not relevant to this discussion and is deflection. The two types of incidents (school shootings and terrorism) are not analogous.

I fail to see how terrorist shootings and school shootings aren't both gun violence.

But thanks so much for clearing it up. I bet you are completely obsessed with guns and gun violence, yet can't see the similarities here.

She does not equate mass killings with mass killings. Can you believe we have to breath the same fucking air as these fucking pieces of shit?

You can tell too how disappointed they were that someone ever committed mass killings with something other than a gun. Notice how they don't want to talk about that?

They think I changed the subject.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Leave it unlocked?
When you close it it locks automatically dumbass.
And unless the kid brought a cutting torch to school they wont be getting into the safe.
And no an AR-15 is not a machine gun.

You call an AR-15 a machine gun and you post a vid of an M-16......pure genius.

awwwwwwww ... because that's what's relevant to the discussion, right?

hint: most people don't spend all their time drooling over Guns and Ammo.

I bet you call your Prius a Porsche......

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

.... uncharacteristically shaken after going through "shooter training" at school. She said all the female teachers were crying, a mess.

Shooter training.

"What it all boils down to, is that there's not much we can do, dad", she said. "They're going through and putting interior locks on classroom doors. Outside of that, you just have to hope the shooter doesn't find you."

I asked her about guns, and whether she supported the idea of giving teachers the option of having guns. "Hell yes," she said, and they had talked about that in training. She doesn't support it being mandatory, but definitely agreed that if some number of teachers did want to do it, it would help. She would do it.

So that was my Friday evening conversation with my daughter. They're usually a little different.
.

As a teacher, of 30 years, I completely disagree with her, and I think most teachers would. Teachers can't control all students at all times: there is far too much chance of a student getting his/her hands on a teacher's gun.

So how would the student get in to a biometric gun safe?

1) You are going to pay for it? 2) If the teacher and his/her students are under fire, does he/she have time to get the gun free in order to protect them? and 3) how many parents are going to have a say in if the school teachers are armed and how many do you think would vote for it? Not most. I know. Parents don't want non-police professionals armed and guns floating around the school.

You really dont know shit about guns or gun safes do you?

That doesn't matter. If a teacher can get to the gun, so can a wiley student. Arming teachers is an intensely stupid idea. More guns in our country does not mean more safety.

You'll have to explain to me how a kid is going to bypass a biometric lock.
And you may be right in one case kinda...we shouldnt let the female teachers have access to the firearms.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You call an AR-15 a machine gun and you post a vid of an M-16......pure genius.

They are effectively the same weapon... but never mind.

LOL...another one who calls her Prius a Porsche.