NAACP Marches With Planned Parenthood

[Redfish]

Seems like an odd match. Maybe it's just a stereotype, but I was under the impression most black people were more than slightly religious? How do they justify doing anything with pro-abortion groups?

for some, like Joe, party trumps all else.

liberalism is a mental disease that infects all races.

 

[JoeB131]

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relationships? hmmm, does being in one with the same woman for over 40 years count? Don't patronize me, fool, you will be destroyed because I am more experienced, better educated, and just plain smarter than you are.

And some day, you might even demonstrate this by your posts... But I will this one time, try to treat you with some intellectual heft.

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Not all opposition to abortion is based on religion, many people simply believe that unborn children should not be murdered for convenience.

And some people believe that fetuses aren't people at all, but merely lumps of unviable flesh the size of a kidney bean.

Frankly, when I was conservative but still atheistic, I used to make the 'Secular' argument against abortion. The Fetus feels pain, it's genetically unique, etc.

Then I realized two things.

1) The Plutocrats are very good at getting people like you upset about abortion, but they have no real intent of doing it. It's why they can always pass tax cuts for the rich but can never pass an abortion ban.

2) If you ever got your way, you'd need a fascist police state to enforce it, or you'd have a law that was widely ignored much like Prohibition was. Neither is a desirable state of affairs.

Romania under the Communists (ironically enough) tried to ban abortion and birth control. And their birth rate actually DROPPED, which was the oppossite of the desired effect.

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Some day we will all know who is right about God and the afterlife. You may believe whatever you want and while I may feel pity for you, I will not ridicule you.

If you would practice the same regarding believers, you might gain some credibility.

Guy, sorry, I simply cannot feel anything but ridicule for people who believe in a book of Bronze Age savagery that the vast majority of you haven't even read.

I was brought up Catholic and spent 12 years in Catholic Schools. And the one thing that struck me was the mean-spiritedness of the whole thing. The kid who ate meat during Lent was going to the same hell as Hitler.

That was just fucking nuts.

 

[JoeB131]

Seems like an odd match. Maybe it's just a stereotype, but I was under the impression most black people were more than slightly religious? How do they justify doing anything with pro-abortion groups?

for some, like Joe, party trumps all else.

liberalism is a mental disease that infects all races.

Guy, I used to be a right winger all the way up until 2008.

Until my Ex-boss announced that he could fire me for running up too many medical bills because "he didn't have to deal with a union".

Kind of clarified the whole issue for me, really.

One party stands for the 1%, one party stands for the rest of us.

 

[Edgetho]

Seems like an odd match. Maybe it's just a stereotype, but I was under the impression most black people were more than slightly religious? How do they justify doing anything with pro-abortion groups?

for some, like Joe, party trumps all else.

liberalism is a mental disease that infects all races.

Guy, I used to be a right winger all the way up until 2008.

Until my Ex-boss announced that he could fire me for running up too many medical bills because "he didn't have to deal with a union".

Kind of clarified the whole issue for me, really.

One party stands for the 1%, one party stands for the rest of us.

You are a lying ****.

About everything.

Everything.

Every time you post in here, it's just one lie after another.

Get help. Or better yet, just end it all

 

[Redfish]

Seems like an odd match. Maybe it's just a stereotype, but I was under the impression most black people were more than slightly religious? How do they justify doing anything with pro-abortion groups?

for some, like Joe, party trumps all else.

liberalism is a mental disease that infects all races.

Guy, I used to be a right winger all the way up until 2008.

Until my Ex-boss announced that he could fire me for running up too many medical bills because "he didn't have to deal with a union".

Kind of clarified the whole issue for me, really.

One party stands for the 1%, one party stands for the rest of us.

Got it, you have become a tool of the far left socialist wing of the dem/lib party.

Do you know that the gap between rich and poor has gotten larger under obama? do you know that there are now more people in poverty than ever before? do you know that there are more on food stamps than ever before.

Your claim that the dems are for the "rest of us" is demostrated bullshit.

the dem/libs are for a system where all of the money and all of the power rests in a very small group of super elites and the "rest of us" are equally miserable.

you have no idea what you are supporting.

 

[Redfish]

for some, like Joe, party trumps all else.

liberalism is a mental disease that infects all races.

Guy, I used to be a right winger all the way up until 2008.

Until my Ex-boss announced that he could fire me for running up too many medical bills because "he didn't have to deal with a union".

Kind of clarified the whole issue for me, really.

One party stands for the 1%, one party stands for the rest of us.

You are a lying ****.

About everything.

Everything.

Every time you post in here, it's just one lie after another.

Get help. Or better yet, just end it all

exactly, I am trying to be more polite to the idiots amoung us like Joe. They really deserve pity because they are very deluded by their left wing masters.

 

[Edgetho]

for some, like Joe, party trumps all else.

liberalism is a mental disease that infects all races.

Guy, I used to be a right winger all the way up until 2008.

Until my Ex-boss announced that he could fire me for running up too many medical bills because "he didn't have to deal with a union".

Kind of clarified the whole issue for me, really.

One party stands for the 1%, one party stands for the rest of us.

Got it, you have become a tool of the far left socialist wing of the dem/lib party.

Do you know that the gap between rich and poor has gotten larger under obama? do you know that there are now more people in poverty than ever before? do you know that there are more on food stamps than ever before.

Your claim that the dems are for the "rest of us" is demostrated bullshit.

the dem/libs are for a system where all of the money and all of the power rests in a very small group of super elites and the "rest of us" are equally miserable.

you have no idea what you are supporting.

the average dimocrap is so incredibly stupid that the very thing they purport to hate... Elitism, people taking advantage of one another, theft, dishonesty, etc is EXACTLY what they vote for every election cycle.

These scumbags talk about how the 'rich' take advantage of the worker class.

That the rich 'steal' and take things they don't deserve.

Let me tell you this.... That rich man that invented the cure for AIDS?

He deserves to be rich.

How about the one that will cure cancer? How about the one that invents cold fusion?

How about the one that invents a battery so good, that you can charge your car once and drive coast to coast without stopping.

But dimocrap scum are so fucking scummy, so low-life that they accuse others while they do EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THEY CONDEMN.

What do dimocrap scum contribute with the money they STEAL from those who work for it?

They steal, through threat of FORCE, money from people who are actually contributing to society, whether it's in the form of venture capital, building widgets, cars, air conditioners, hydraulic equipment or any number of a literally a million other devices we use to make our lives better.....

And what do dimocrap scum give back?

What do you contribute, dimocrap scumbag?

Nothing.

Most of you can be replaced with a trained monkey. Most of you can be replaced with a mindless robot.

And all you dimocrap scumbags do is replicate. All you do is make more dependent, stupid, mindless dimocrap scum demanding that the people of this Country who make things work give away, through the threat of FORCE, their hard-earned money so you can...... Do what, exactly?

Justify your existence, dimocrap scum.

You can't. The only reason you're important is because you have the power of the vote and there are SCUM like the lying cocksucker in chief who will do your bidding....

Which is to steal money from people who earn it and give it to scumbags that vote dimocrap.

dimocraps are about as necessary to society as any other contagion and we need to start realizing that and do something about it.

We stomp out other diseaases, why not dimocraps? They serve no purpose.

hypocritical cocksuckers

 

[JoeB131]

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Got it, you have become a tool of the far left socialist wing of the dem/lib party.

Do you know that the gap between rich and poor has gotten larger under obama? do you know that there are now more people in poverty than ever before? do you know that there are more on food stamps than ever before.

Your claim that the dems are for the "rest of us" is demostrated bullshit.

the dem/libs are for a system where all of the money and all of the power rests in a very small group of super elites and the "rest of us" are equally miserable.

you have no idea what you are supporting.

BUt...OOOOOOOOOOOBama.

That train left the station a long time ago, can't blame Obama for not being able to slam on the breaks.

The real problem you guys have is so many people are fed up with the 1%, you'll never get another Republican elected.

Hope you like 93% top marginalrates.

 

[JoeB131]

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exactly, I am trying to be more polite to the idiots amoung us like Joe. They really deserve pity because they are very deluded by their left wing masters.

The only people who deluded me were the ones who said, "Hey, if you work 60 hours a week for me, there's health insurance involved."

followed by "I'm glad I don't have to deal with a union!"

 

[Jroc]

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it is when you believe that one race or class should be prevented from reproducing, or do you share her ideas on that?

personally I think alll liberals should not be allowed to reproduce, but since most of them are gay, that problem may take care of itself.

I think that there are certain individuals who shouldn't reproduce.

Clearly, a lot of what Sanger thought was based on bad science at the time. But the very sensible idea that we evolve beyond, "Ooops, you got pregnant, let's get you into a hastily arranged marriage to a guy who doesn't want kids he isn't ready for".

Again, it's the 21st century. Maybe we need to cordon off a bit of the country where you idiots can live in the 19th century, Jindal can peform exorcisms and Sarah Palin can hunt witches.

From Abortion, to the environmentalist nutjob movement, to government run healthcare. Leftist want to control people's lives. If someone is too old why spend the money on them? if a poor person gets pregnant just kill the kid. We don't need any more of those people around anyway, plus it's bad for the planet. You libs are pathetic joke. Some buy into that ideology, some are just too blind to see what you people really are, and some just sellout for political power... Like the NAACP. People think libs are compassionate when totally the opposite is true. They steal money from the people, create a massive bureaucracy, hand out a few crumbs here and there and that what passes for compassion

 

[Unkotare]

Considering the origins and effect of Planned Parenthood, the NAACP may be missing the "Advancement" part of their name in this instance.

Well, yeah, if you believe the horseshit of religious nuts,

Oh. Wait. you already believe the horseshit of religious nuts that a magic man in the sky really loves you enough to burn you for all eternity if you don't follow his rules, I guess believing horseshit that Sanger was a screaming racist isn't that much of a stretch.

"Horseshit" like:


Margaret Sanger, "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda," Oct 1921.

Published Article. Source: The Birth Control Review, Oct. 1921, 5 , Margaret Sanger MicrofilmS70:913 .

http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/webedition/app/documents/show.php?sangerDoc=238946.xml



This isn't about your existential insecurity and fear of religion, Mr. Nobody.

 

[JoeB131]

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From Abortion, to the environmentalist nutjob movement, to government run healthcare. Leftist want to control people's lives. If someone is too old why spend the money on them? if a poor person gets pregnant just kill the kid. We don't need any more of those people around anyway, plus it's bad for the planet. You libs are pathetic joke. Some buy into that ideology, some are just too blind to see what you people really are, and some just sellout for political power... Like the NAACP. People think libs are compassionate when totally the opposite is true. They steal money from the people, create a massive bureaucracy, hand out a few crumbs here and there and that what passes for compassion

Fetuses aren't "kids". They aren't "babies". I'm not sure why we have to keep going over this with you.

Incidently, the reason why we have Old people at all is because we have this government program called "Medicare". Before Medicare, the average life expectency was 67. Now it's 78.

And, yeah, it's worked out very well. So has "social security" and "head Start" and "Medicaid" and all the other crumbs that pretty much keep the country from devolving into outright communism.

 

[JoeB131]

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"Horseshit" like:


Margaret Sanger, "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda," Oct 1921.

Published Article. Source: The Birth Control Review, Oct. 1921, 5 , Margaret Sanger MicrofilmS70:913 .

Okay, read it. Not one word about blacks in there.

Now, yeah, she talks a lot about "race regeneration" in there, but that's not racism, guy. It is the now largely discredited theory of Eugenics. But explaining theory to idiot like you would be a waste of time, so I won't bother.

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This isn't about your existential insecurity and fear of religion, Mr. Nobody.

You clowns have a 2000 year history of murdering each other over fairy tales. Like whether your Naked Dude on Stick was made of Wafers or not. It's more than a reasonable fear.

 

[Unkotare]

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"Horseshit" like:


Margaret Sanger, "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda," Oct 1921.

Published Article. Source: The Birth Control Review, Oct. 1921, 5 , Margaret Sanger MicrofilmS70:913 .

Okay, read it. Not one word about blacks in there.

Now, yeah, she talks a lot about "race regeneration" in there, but that's not racism, guy. It is the now largely discredited theory of Eugenics. But explaining theory to idiot like you would be a waste of time, so I won't bother.

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This isn't about your existential insecurity and fear of religion, Mr. Nobody.

You clowns have a 2000 year history of murdering each other over fairy tales. Like whether your Naked Dude on Stick was made of Wafers or not. It's more than a reasonable fear.

Thanks for admitting you're an irrational coward who can't back up a word he says, Mr. Nobody.

 

[JoeB131]

Thanks for admitting you just linked to something that said, "Margerat Sanger" and "race" and didn't understand what they were saying.

 

[Jroc]

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From Abortion, to the environmentalist nutjob movement, to government run healthcare. Leftist want to control people's lives. If someone is too old why spend the money on them? if a poor person gets pregnant just kill the kid. We don't need any more of those people around anyway, plus it's bad for the planet. You libs are pathetic joke. Some buy into that ideology, some are just too blind to see what you people really are, and some just sellout for political power... Like the NAACP. People think libs are compassionate when totally the opposite is true. They steal money from the people, create a massive bureaucracy, hand out a few crumbs here and there and that what passes for compassion

Fetuses aren't "kids". They aren't "babies". I'm not sure why we have to keep going over this with you.

Incidently, the reason why we have Old people at all is because we have this government program called "Medicare". Before Medicare, the average life expectency was 67. Now it's 78.

And, yeah, it's worked out very well. So has "social security" and "head Start" and "Medicaid" and all the other crumbs that pretty much keep the country from devolving into outright communism.

I see you have comprehension issues so ill restate what i said. The government takes the peoples money, creates a massive bureaucracy, spends the money supporting that bureaucracy, and whats left, trickles back to the people. Social Security and medicare are going broke. Social Security? all that money taken from people is spent on other crap there is no money there IOUs. Medicare is being raided to pay for Obamacare and the program was already unsustainable. With all the billions spent already spent on the new Obamacare bureaucracy we could have paid for all the people who didn't have insurance. and had plenty left over, but now we'll pay for more government bureaucracy. Babies aren't babies? what is it then?..

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2u6_a6dcLM]20 week old fetus yawns and stretches (action @ 11 sec) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Unkotare]

Thanks for admitting you just linked to something that said, "Margerat [sic] Sanger" and "race" and didn't understand what they were saying.

You had better not read it. The "unfit" to which she keeps referring includes you.

 

[buckeye45_73]

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From Abortion, to the environmentalist nutjob movement, to government run healthcare. Leftist want to control people's lives. If someone is too old why spend the money on them? if a poor person gets pregnant just kill the kid. We don't need any more of those people around anyway, plus it's bad for the planet. You libs are pathetic joke. Some buy into that ideology, some are just too blind to see what you people really are, and some just sellout for political power... Like the NAACP. People think libs are compassionate when totally the opposite is true. They steal money from the people, create a massive bureaucracy, hand out a few crumbs here and there and that what passes for compassion

Fetuses aren't "kids". They aren't "babies". I'm not sure why we have to keep going over this with you.

Incidently, the reason why we have Old people at all is because we have this government program called "Medicare". Before Medicare, the average life expectency was 67. Now it's 78.

And, yeah, it's worked out very well. So has "social security" and "head Start" and "Medicaid" and all the other crumbs that pretty much keep the country from devolving into outright communism.

yeah it's Medicare and not technology and advances in science and health. But it's funny how you guys always complain about unisured or poor people, you develop a program and it never gets fixed....hmmmmmmm

 

[JoeB131]

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From Abortion, to the environmentalist nutjob movement, to government run healthcare. Leftist want to control people's lives. If someone is too old why spend the money on them? if a poor person gets pregnant just kill the kid. We don't need any more of those people around anyway, plus it's bad for the planet. You libs are pathetic joke. Some buy into that ideology, some are just too blind to see what you people really are, and some just sellout for political power... Like the NAACP. People think libs are compassionate when totally the opposite is true. They steal money from the people, create a massive bureaucracy, hand out a few crumbs here and there and that what passes for compassion

Fetuses aren't "kids". They aren't "babies". I'm not sure why we have to keep going over this with you.

Incidently, the reason why we have Old people at all is because we have this government program called "Medicare". Before Medicare, the average life expectency was 67. Now it's 78.

And, yeah, it's worked out very well. So has "social security" and "head Start" and "Medicaid" and all the other crumbs that pretty much keep the country from devolving into outright communism.

I see you have comprehension issues so ill restate what i said. The government takes the peoples money, creates a massive bureaucracy, spends the money supporting that bureaucracy, and whats left, trickles back to the people. Social Security and medicare are going broke. Social Security? all that money taken from people is spent on other crap there is no money there IOUs. Medicare is being raided to pay for Obamacare and the program was already unsustainable. With all the billions spent already spent on the new Obamacare bureaucracy we could have paid for all the people who didn't have insurance. and had plenty left over, but now we'll pay for more government bureaucracy. Babies aren't babies? what is it then?..

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I thought we had a ban on Fetus Porn...

Do you really know what percentage of money is spent on "bureaucracy" vs. what goes to recipiants?

I'll give you a clue. Medicare has a 3% overhead cost, compared to private insurance, which has a 15-20% overhead cost of paying out dividends to shareholders and 9 figure salaries to CEO's. Not surprisingly, Medicare has a much higher user satisfaction rating than private insurance.

Medicare Is More Efficient Than Private Insurance ? Health Affairs Blog

As for your babbling about "raiding medicare" (i.e. ending the Corporate Welfare giveaway of Medicare Part C to fund ObamaCare), I'm all for it.

Now, back to your 20 week old fetus. If it popped out of its mother at the point that was taken, it wouldn't live. Fetuses before 20 weeks have a 0% survival rate, but 99% of abortions are performed well before then.

Fetuses aren't babies. Sorry, they just aren't.

 

[JoeB131]

Thanks for admitting you just linked to something that said, "Margerat [sic] Sanger" and "race" and didn't understand what they were saying.

You had better not read it. The "unfit" to which she keeps referring includes you.

Really? Didn't see my name in there at all.

Again, seriously guy, you need to get laid...