Name A Problem Obama Has Solved. Bin Laden Doesn't Count

[earthling01]

I love the way the Bin Laden killing was "no big deal". Obama basically bet his entire presidency on those brave soldiers. Although he did not fire the bullet himself (as if ANY US President had...), he made the call and accepted the consequences. That's is far more than his predecessor ever did.

But more importantly, it's amazing to me how many on this post must stay up all night and all waking hours thinking of ways to ignore the obvious. If you cannot see the economic recovery and advancements in foreign policy and social issues since Dubya left office, then I won't waste my time trying to explain them to you.

The truth is, the President could erase the deficit, lower taxes, reduce inflation, cure cancer, and you would still be whining the way you are right now, "Yeah, but what has he done for me lately..."

The country as a whole has clearly moved forward on all fronts. Ask the next foreigner you meet whether America's image has improved since Obama took office, and watch his face light up. Yes, our image abroad IS important to our effective foreign policy. These improvements happened not because of but IN SPITE OF the current Congressional gridlock. That is to say, it is not a LACK of Obama policy proposals hindering further recovery, but a FAILURE of Congress to act on policies due to obstructionist tactics like the filibuster. With a functioning govt body, I believe the recovery would have been far less painful.

You can chose to move forward with the policies, or remain behind. It's not skin off my nose either way.

 

[Oldstyle]

I love the way the Bin Laden killing was "no big deal". Obama basically bet his entire presidency on those brave soldiers. Although he did not fire the bullet himself (as if ANY US President had...), he made the call and accepted the consequences. That's is far more than his predecessor ever did.

But more importantly, it's amazing to me how many on this post must stay up all night and all waking hours thinking of ways to ignore the obvious. If you cannot see the economic recovery and advancements in foreign policy and social issues since Dubya left office, then I won't waste my time trying to explain them to you.

The truth is, the President could erase the deficit, lower taxes, reduce inflation, cure cancer, and you would still be whining the way you are right now, "Yeah, but what has he done for me lately..."

The country as a whole has clearly moved forward on all fronts. Ask the next foreigner you meet whether America's image has improved since Obama took office, and watch his face light up. Yes, our image abroad IS important to our effective foreign policy. These improvements happened not because of but IN SPITE OF the current Congressional gridlock. That is to say, it is not a LACK of Obama policy proposals hindering further recovery, but a FAILURE of Congress to act on policies due to obstructionist tactics like the filibuster. With a functioning govt body, I believe the recovery would have been far less painful.

You can chose to move forward with the policies, or remain behind. It's not skin off my nose either way.

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What I find amusing is that because the GOP "obstructed" the policies that Obama sought like Cap & Trade and larger tax increases, they kept the Idiot in Chief from further damaging our economy and losing hundreds of thousands of American jobs yet you blame Congress for "hindering the recovery". The truth of the matter is that if Barack Obama had gotten his way...things would be worse now instead of better. When the person in charge is clueless..."hindering" is not a bad thing.

As for whether foreigner's faces "light up" if they're asked about America? If they didn't like America in the first place they're laughing their asses off at us now, so I guess you're right there! We presently have the most non coherent foreign policy in decades. Barack Obama has no more idea what to do with the growing tide of Islamic fundamentalism that's sweeping the Middle East than he does about creating jobs here in America. His handling of the economy has been so gawd awful that we're now unable to "afford" to send our navy out to protect our interests there. That's what four years of "Barry" have given us!

 

[rightwinger]

LMAO...god you are stupid.

so he solved their leadership problems?......when is he going to show some leadership here at home and bring people together .......as long as this Country is divided like it is he can walk on water and we are still going to have the shit we have now......a country divided against itself is one that will eventually fall....

Very true

Obama does have to deal with a Republican party that will bring the country to it's knees just to show they can

When the final history of this era is written

It will be noted that Obamas greatest obstacle to progress was not terrorists, was not the economy, was not Iran or North Korea.....It was the Republicans

 

[Franticfrank]

I love the way the Bin Laden killing was "no big deal". Obama basically bet his entire presidency on those brave soldiers. Although he did not fire the bullet himself (as if ANY US President had...), he made the call and accepted the consequences. That's is far more than his predecessor ever did.

Agreed - it was a brave move politically by Obama to order the raid and a very brave act by the soldiers involved. Imagine how embarrassing it would have been if OBL wasn't there and the SEALS were captured by the Pakistani military. It would have been Eagle Claw all over again.

 

[rightwinger]

....ands yet YOU do, fuck off.

Next?

bin Laden counts.

You don't get to decide what counts. Anywhere.

Giving Obama credit for Bin Laden is like giving the Pope credit for the meteor in Russia.

That's why it doesn't count.

Bin Laden sleeps with the fishes and Obama sent him there

 

[rightwinger]

Well, lets see.

Bin Laden is dead.
We are out of Iraq.
We are about to be out of Afghanistan.
Housing is going up.
Unemployment is going down.
Arrests of illegal immigrants is at a high for recent memory
Wall Street hit an all-time high
Blacks feel more empowered, and maybe the poor communities will begin to get motivated
Gays are getting rights they didnt have before.
Women are getting opportunities they didnt have before

In fact, seemsmost of the people bitching are rich, white, right wing males. Obama has done some stupid shit. But he's done a lot of stuff that went well also. Only extreme partisans would disagree with that.

Obama had Bin Laden's location for 8 months. Why did he wait so long to take him out and why did he blab his death all over the TV before they had a chance to take advantage of the intel they discovered?

Iraq is now in the hands of radical Islamists. Not exactly the reason we went in there, don't you think?

We're about to leave Afghanistan and their president is now accusing us of conspiring with the Taliban. After helping Egypt, Libya fall into the hands of Islamic fundamentalists, and helping Islamic rebels take Syria I think he may have some insider info on it.

Housing......have you tried to get a loan these days. My wife is a Real Estate Broker. She says the paperwork that Obama has heaped upon them is friggen nuts. Instead of making it easier to buy a house he has made it unbelievably harder.

Unemployment is going down because Obama lifted the 4 year hiring freeze on federal employees right before he says he's going to furlough 800,000 of us.

Obama just let out thousands of illegals on the streets without telling the local law-enforcement officials any information on their description, names, or their whereabouts. They refused to cooperate with them when they asked for this info. So that bullshit about arresting more illegals than ever before is just that.....total bullshit.

Wallstreet is at an all-time high.......with extremely low volume. What that means is the rich are making trades with huge amounts of money. The smart money is saying get out while the getting is good.

Blacks feel more empowered......and they're taking that empowerment and doing flash-mobs stealing from merchants, ganging up on whites and beating the holy shit out of them.

I have nothing to say about Gays. They deserve the same right to be legally chained to someone as heteros are.

What did Obama do to help women other than offer them free rubbers?

Gotta love the conservatives.....Bush FAILED to get Bin Laden and invaded the wrong country
But they bitch that Obama didn't kill him sooner

Iraq is headed in the direction everyone in the world predicted....but Bush thought they would treat us like liberators

 

[rdean]

Well, lets see.

Bin Laden is dead.
We are out of Iraq.
We are about to be out of Afghanistan.
Housing is going up.
Unemployment is going down.
Arrests of illegal immigrants is at a high for recent memory
Wall Street hit an all-time high
Blacks feel more empowered, and maybe the poor communities will begin to get motivated
Gays are getting rights they didnt have before.
Women are getting opportunities they didnt have before

In fact, seemsmost of the people bitching are rich, white, right wing males. Obama has done some stupid shit. But he's done a lot of stuff that went well also. Only extreme partisans would disagree with that.

Obama had Bin Laden's location for 8 months. Why did he wait so long to take him out and why did he blab his death all over the TV before they had a chance to take advantage of the intel they discovered?

Iraq is now in the hands of radical Islamists. Not exactly the reason we went in there, don't you think?

We're about to leave Afghanistan and their president is now accusing us of conspiring with the Taliban. After helping Egypt, Libya fall into the hands of Islamic fundamentalists, and helping Islamic rebels take Syria I think he may have some insider info on it.

Housing......have you tried to get a loan these days. My wife is a Real Estate Broker. She says the paperwork that Obama has heaped upon them is friggen nuts. Instead of making it easier to buy a house he has made it unbelievably harder.

Unemployment is going down because Obama lifted the 4 year hiring freeze on federal employees right before he says he's going to furlough 800,000 of us.

Obama just let out thousands of illegals on the streets without telling the local law-enforcement officials any information on their description, names, or their whereabouts. They refused to cooperate with them when they asked for this info. So that bullshit about arresting more illegals than ever before is just that.....total bullshit.

Wallstreet is at an all-time high.......with extremely low volume. What that means is the rich are making trades with huge amounts of money. The smart money is saying get out while the getting is good.

Blacks feel more empowered......and they're taking that empowerment and doing flash-mobs stealing from merchants, ganging up on whites and beating the holy shit out of them.

I have nothing to say about Gays. They deserve the same right to be legally chained to someone as heteros are.

What did Obama do to help women other than offer them free rubbers?

Gotta love the conservatives.....Bush FAILED to get Bin Laden and invaded the wrong country
But they bitch that Obama didn't kill him sooner

Iraq is headed in the direction everyone in the world predicted....but Bush thought they would treat us like liberators

In the imaginary and delusion world of Bush, he thought they would greet him with flowers and a few bits of hard candy. Not size 10 shoes. This comes from a life of privileged where your superior upbringing teaches you how to deal with people you know nothing about and don't care to know.

 

[Darkwind]

He killed bin Laden, a feat that filthy little cocksucker from Tejas couldn't manage.

Next.

Liar. It was Bush that killed bin Dukin....it was his apparatus that Obama used.....You lose.

 

[mudwhistle]

Well, lets see.

Bin Laden is dead.
We are out of Iraq.
We are about to be out of Afghanistan.
Housing is going up.
Unemployment is going down.
Arrests of illegal immigrants is at a high for recent memory
Wall Street hit an all-time high
Blacks feel more empowered, and maybe the poor communities will begin to get motivated
Gays are getting rights they didnt have before.
Women are getting opportunities they didnt have before

In fact, seemsmost of the people bitching are rich, white, right wing males. Obama has done some stupid shit. But he's done a lot of stuff that went well also. Only extreme partisans would disagree with that.

Obama had Bin Laden's location for 8 months. Why did he wait so long to take him out and why did he blab his death all over the TV before they had a chance to take advantage of the intel they discovered?

Iraq is now in the hands of radical Islamists. Not exactly the reason we went in there, don't you think?

We're about to leave Afghanistan and their president is now accusing us of conspiring with the Taliban. After helping Egypt, Libya fall into the hands of Islamic fundamentalists, and helping Islamic rebels take Syria I think he may have some insider info on it.

Housing......have you tried to get a loan these days. My wife is a Real Estate Broker. She says the paperwork that Obama has heaped upon them is friggen nuts. Instead of making it easier to buy a house he has made it unbelievably harder.

Unemployment is going down because Obama lifted the 4 year hiring freeze on federal employees right before he says he's going to furlough 800,000 of us.

Obama just let out thousands of illegals on the streets without telling the local law-enforcement officials any information on their description, names, or their whereabouts. They refused to cooperate with them when they asked for this info. So that bullshit about arresting more illegals than ever before is just that.....total bullshit.

Wallstreet is at an all-time high.......with extremely low volume. What that means is the rich are making trades with huge amounts of money. The smart money is saying get out while the getting is good.

Blacks feel more empowered......and they're taking that empowerment and doing flash-mobs stealing from merchants, ganging up on whites and beating the holy shit out of them.

I have nothing to say about Gays. They deserve the same right to be legally chained to someone as heteros are.

What did Obama do to help women other than offer them free rubbers?

Gotta love the conservatives.....Bush FAILED to get Bin Laden and invaded the wrong country
But they bitch that Obama didn't kill him sooner

Iraq is headed in the direction everyone in the world predicted....but Bush thought they would treat us like liberators

Which country should we have invaded?

 

[Harry Dresden]

so he solved their leadership problems?......when is he going to show some leadership here at home and bring people together .......as long as this Country is divided like it is he can walk on water and we are still going to have the shit we have now......a country divided against itself is one that will eventually fall....

Very true

Obama does have to deal with a Republican party that will bring the country to it's knees just to show they can

USMB Republicans think that's a "good thing". Their political/entertainment complex has taught the weak minded to hate this country. Imagine, people who don't know the difference between Fascism, Socialism or Communism bringing down the country and starting over. They think they want a kind of Christian Taliban, but they are as ignorant at pre-soviet Russian peasants.

you think keeping the two sides apart is a good thing Dean......so why are you trying to act like its a bad thing?......you might have RW fooled......but you dont have 90% of those to your right fooled.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

....ands yet YOU do, fuck off.

Next?

bin Laden counts.

You don't get to decide what counts. Anywhere.

Giving Obama credit for Bin Laden is like giving the Pope credit for the meteor in Russia.

That's why it doesn't count.

hey if Bush knew where the guy was.....why did he not give the order to go and take him out?......just askin.....

 

[rightwinger]

Obama had Bin Laden's location for 8 months. Why did he wait so long to take him out and why did he blab his death all over the TV before they had a chance to take advantage of the intel they discovered?

Iraq is now in the hands of radical Islamists. Not exactly the reason we went in there, don't you think?

We're about to leave Afghanistan and their president is now accusing us of conspiring with the Taliban. After helping Egypt, Libya fall into the hands of Islamic fundamentalists, and helping Islamic rebels take Syria I think he may have some insider info on it.

Housing......have you tried to get a loan these days. My wife is a Real Estate Broker. She says the paperwork that Obama has heaped upon them is friggen nuts. Instead of making it easier to buy a house he has made it unbelievably harder.

Unemployment is going down because Obama lifted the 4 year hiring freeze on federal employees right before he says he's going to furlough 800,000 of us.

Obama just let out thousands of illegals on the streets without telling the local law-enforcement officials any information on their description, names, or their whereabouts. They refused to cooperate with them when they asked for this info. So that bullshit about arresting more illegals than ever before is just that.....total bullshit.

Wallstreet is at an all-time high.......with extremely low volume. What that means is the rich are making trades with huge amounts of money. The smart money is saying get out while the getting is good.

Blacks feel more empowered......and they're taking that empowerment and doing flash-mobs stealing from merchants, ganging up on whites and beating the holy shit out of them.

I have nothing to say about Gays. They deserve the same right to be legally chained to someone as heteros are.

What did Obama do to help women other than offer them free rubbers?

Gotta love the conservatives.....Bush FAILED to get Bin Laden and invaded the wrong country
But they bitch that Obama didn't kill him sooner

Iraq is headed in the direction everyone in the world predicted....but Bush thought they would treat us like liberators

Which country should we have invaded?

The terrorists were hiding in Pakistan.......even Obama knew that

 

[mudwhistle]

it's funny how in an argument against the 1% libs claim only the rich benefit from the market becasue the poor don't have money to invest. then when the market does well they fail to realize it is only the rich geting richer because the poor still don't have money to invest. yet they fail ot make the connection that the market is doing well because obama is nothing more than a corporate whore, while they sit there and try to convince us he is reversing evil bush policies that favor corporations. yet no libe can ever name one policy bush made that favored corporations and destroyed our economy. they talk in circles

"Bush quietly signs $136 billion tax cut bill for corporations, catering to special interests", 2004....:
Bush quietly signs corporate tax-cut bill - Business - Stocks & economy | NBC News

It's different. Corporations are people and they were creating jobs.

Wait for it

wait

wait some more

creating jobs
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
in China

I know.......ironic that China's government is more business-friendly than ours.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Very true

Obama does have to deal with a Republican party that will bring the country to it's knees just to show they can

so its just the Republicans?.....when i see posts from lefties like Dean,Dudley and LaKota.....i have to think the Far Lefties are just as fucked as the Far Right as far as keeping everyone apart.....take the blue blinders off RW ....even you should have seen that......

The entire Republican Party has become radical. The Teanuts are leading the tards. The "fringe" has become RW Mainstream.

like i said Dean.....when i see posts from Lefties as "fringe" as you.....i dont see how you are helping the situation here......you say the ENTIRE Republican Party......i know Republicans who do not give a fuck what Texas or Santorum want,Republicans who can care less if Gays marry,Republicans who are in Unions and are for that Union,Republicans who care about people without Ins and if they are ill,Republicans who want Elderly people to be able to live well,Republicans who live among minorities and dont hate them like you say they do,some have even married one........you might have ABS and Franco fooled.....but you dont have a hell of a lot of others fooled.....and that is what you cant stand.....is that some here dont buy the bullshit you post here.....

 

[mudwhistle]

Gotta love the conservatives.....Bush FAILED to get Bin Laden and invaded the wrong country
But they bitch that Obama didn't kill him sooner

Iraq is headed in the direction everyone in the world predicted....but Bush thought they would treat us like liberators

Which country should we have invaded?

The terrorists were hiding in Pakistan.......even Obama knew that

Explain how we go about invading an ally's country without pissing them off enough to turn over their weopons technology to al Qaeda and Iran? Obama hasn't been able to do that.

 

[boedicca]

Which country should we have invaded?

The terrorists were hiding in Pakistan.......even Obama knew that

Explain how we go about invading an ally's country without pissing them off enough to turn over their weopons technology to al Qaeda and Iran? Obama hasn't been able to do that.

Well, he COULD HAVE if the GOP opposition hadn't prevented him from doing it.

 

[rightwinger]

Which country should we have invaded?

The terrorists were hiding in Pakistan.......even Obama knew that

Explain how we go about invading an ally's country without pissing them off enough to turn over their weopons technology to al Qaeda and Iran? Obama hasn't been able to do that.

 

[Esmeralda]

He killed bin Laden, a feat that filthy little cocksucker from Tejas couldn't manage.

Next.

I told you Bin Laden doesn't count.

First of all.....he was retired.

Second.....Bin Laden alerted us to the threat of terrorism......he wasn't the only ME terrorist in the world. The threat is obviously still out there even though Obama tried to lie to us and act like the threat was gone.

Thirdly.....Obama used Bush's military to get it done.....and he even had to be dragged kicking and screaming into doing it. So Obama didn't "Get Bin Laden".

Nice try though.

Bin Laden was retired! LMAO Tell another one!

 

[mudwhistle]

The terrorists were hiding in Pakistan.......even Obama knew that

Explain how we go about invading an ally's country without pissing them off enough to turn over their weopons technology to al Qaeda and Iran? Obama hasn't been able to do that.

Pakistan used to be a pretty good ally of ours.

Now, not so much.

I trained some of them in Somalia. Now, I'd be lucky if one of them didn't try to shoot me in the back of the head.

 

[rightwinger]

He killed bin Laden, a feat that filthy little cocksucker from Tejas couldn't manage.

Next.

I told you Bin Laden doesn't count.

First of all.....he was retired.

Second.....Bin Laden alerted us to the threat of terrorism......he wasn't the only ME terrorist in the world. The threat is obviously still out there even though Obama tried to lie to us and act like the threat was gone.

Thirdly.....Obama used Bush's military to get it done.....and he even had to be dragged kicking and screaming into doing it. So Obama didn't "Get Bin Laden".

Nice try though.

Bin Laden was retired! LMAO Tell another one!