National Healthcare in Britain: They just canceled 50,000 surgeries...

Yep.....the problem with socialized medicine...you run out of money......and then you have to stop giving even crap care to your people...and the really funny part....you have taxed those people at about 60% on their incomes to pay for healthcare you will no longer give them.....

Socialized medicine...when you want to pay for healthcare, but don't want actual medical treatment....

Great moments in single payer: Britain cancels 50,000 surgeries - Hot Air

The UK’s vaunted single-payer system has collapsed into “third world” conditions, thanks to a lack of resources that has ambulances unable to pick up patients, who would find difficulty in getting an empty bed at a hospital. The order came down this week from on high to cancel as many as 50,000 scheduled surgeries over the next several weeks until the National Health Service can figure out how to climb out of the hole (via Guy Benson):

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Every hospital in the country has been ordered to cancel all non-urgent surgery until at least February in an unprecedented step by NHS officials.

The instructions on Tuesday night – which will see result in around 50,000 operations being axed – followed claims by senior doctors that patients were being treated in “third world” conditions, as hospital chief executives warned of the worst winter crisis for three decades.

Hospitals are reporting growing chaos, with a spike in winter flu leaving frail patients facing 12-hour waits, and some units running out of corridor space.

It’s not just the hospitals, either. The NHS will close down outpatient clinics as well, leaving Britons with very few options for healthcare at the beginning of 2018:
You don't know anything about these Surgeries.

Also, Hotair is your source? That's like eating hot juicy cat shit fresh out of a litter box.

I take it you have experience with this activity?
 
This is what Democrats want for Americans. It's not about improving health care for Americans; it's about dragging us all down to equal substandard care, but hey, everyone will have it and it will be "free."

If democrats actually wanted a public option, I would still be a registered democrat. Democrats wouldn't have lost in 2016 if they were for such progressive programs.

What democrats want is more affordable health care ( but not too affordable because their donors still need to make money). We pay more in Healthcare than any other 1st world nation in the world. It's ridiculous we have folks in debt because of medical bills.

Reagan repealing the HMO act was VERY BAD.

The President cannot repeal anything. Have a nice day! :D
 
at this rate their health program will rate right there with cuba

another socialist utopia the leftards love so much

We didn't make the top 16.

The 16 countries with the world's best healthcare systems

That's why the rest of the world flocks to the US when they need the best healthcare!

No one is questioning the quality of the Healthcare. But the system is broken. What good is high quality health care when no one can afford it.

And yes other people do come to our country for Healthcare. But their government pays for their care while in the US.

I work in Qatar and if there is a procedure that can't be done in Qatar , the government will send them to the US and pay for it.

Our government won't even pay for an advil.
 
at this rate their health program will rate right there with cuba

another socialist utopia the leftards love so much

We didn't make the top 16.

The 16 countries with the world's best healthcare systems

That's why the rest of the world flocks to the US when they need the best healthcare!

No one is questioning the quality of the Healthcare. But the system is broken. What good is high quality health care when no one can afford it.

And yes other people do come to our country for Healthcare. But their government pays for their care while in the US.

I work in Qatar and if there is a procedure that can't be done in Qatar , the government will send them to the US and pay for it.

Our government won't even pay for an advil.

Yes, they are questioning the quality of the healthcare. You are simply ignoring it.
 
Yep.....the problem with socialized medicine...you run out of money....

Canada spends about half of what America spends on medical care, yet they have universal care and better health. If running out of money is an issue, America is in the worst shape in the world, because America spends the most on health care.

Of the western countries with socialized medicine, Britain's socialist healthcare is among the most poorly implemented. To be fair, Britain and the US have more of a demographic problem (inferior races) than does Canada.
 
Actually, both things he said are true. And-
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This is what Democrats want for Americans. It's not about improving health care for Americans; it's about dragging us all down to equal substandard care, but hey, everyone will have it and it will be "free."
If it is so substandard, then why does their population enjoy better health outcomes?


Because they have fewer cars in their country, and they count dead babies differently.
You, of course, just completely made that up.
 
Racist much?
Yep.....the problem with socialized medicine...you run out of money....

Canada spends about half of what America spends on medical care, yet they have universal care and better health. If running out of money is an issue, America is in the worst shape in the world, because America spends the most on health care.

Of the western countries with socialized medicine, Britain's socialist healthcare is among the most poorly implemented. To be fair, Britain and the US have more of a demographic problem (inferior races) than does Canada.
 
Racist much?
Yep.....the problem with socialized medicine...you run out of money....

Canada spends about half of what America spends on medical care, yet they have universal care and better health. If running out of money is an issue, America is in the worst shape in the world, because America spends the most on health care.

Of the western countries with socialized medicine, Britain's socialist healthcare is among the most poorly implemented. To be fair, Britain and the US have more of a demographic problem (inferior races) than does Canada.

Reality.
 
Yep.....the problem with socialized medicine...you run out of money....

Canada spends about half of what America spends on medical care, yet they have universal care and better health. If running out of money is an issue, America is in the worst shape in the world, because America spends the most on health care.

Of the western countries with socialized medicine, Britain's socialist healthcare is among the most poorly implemented. To be fair, Britain and the US have more of a demographic problem (inferior races) than does Canada.


No, actually, they don't...

Canada....

If Universal Health Care Is The Goal, Don't Copy Canada

Amongst industrialized countries -- members of the OECD -- with universal health care, Canada has the second most expensive health care system as a share of the economy after adjusting for age. This is not necessarily a problem, however, depending on the value received for such spending. As countries become richer, citizens may choose to allocate a larger portion of their income to health care. However, such expenditures are a problem when they are not matched by value.
The most visible manifestation of Canada’s failing health care system are wait times for health care services. In 2013, Canadians, on average, faced a four and a half month wait for medically necessary treatment after referral by a general practitioner. This wait time is almost twice as long as it was in 1993 when national wait times were first measured.
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Long wait times in Canada have also been observed for basic diagnostic imaging technologies that Americans take for granted, which are crucial for determining the severity of a patient’s condition. In 2013, the average wait time for an MRI was over two months, while Canadians needing a CT scan waited for almost a month.

These wait times are not simply “minor inconveniences.” Patients experience physical pain and suffering, mental anguish, and lost economic productivity while waiting for treatment. One recent estimate (2013) found that the value of time lost due to medical wait times in Canada amounted to approximately $1,200 per patient.

There is also considerable evidence indicating that excessive wait times lead to poorer health outcomes and in some cases, death. Dr. Brian Day, former head of the Canadian Medical Association recently noted that “[d]elayed care often transforms an acute and potentially reversible illness or injury into a chronic, irreversible condition that involves permanent disability.”

And more on Canada...


The Ugly Truth About Canadian Health Care

Mountain-bike enthusiast Suzanne Aucoin had to fight more than her Stage IV colon cancer. Her doctor suggested Erbitux—a proven cancer drug that targets cancer cells exclusively, unlike conventional chemotherapies that more crudely kill all fast-growing cells in the body—and Aucoin went to a clinic to begin treatment. But if Erbitux offered hope, Aucoin’s insurance didn’t: she received one inscrutable form letter after another, rejecting her claim for reimbursement. Yet another example of the callous hand of managed care, depriving someone of needed medical help, right? Guess again. Erbitux is standard treatment, covered by insurance companies—in the United States. Aucoin lives in Ontario, Canada.

When Aucoin appealed to an official ombudsman, the Ontario government claimed that her treatment was unproven and that she had gone to an unaccredited clinic. But the FDA in the U.S. had approved Erbitux, and her clinic was a cancer center affiliated with a prominent Catholic hospital in Buffalo. This January, the ombudsman ruled in Aucoin’s favor, awarding her the cost of treatment. She represents a dramatic new trend in Canadian health-care advocacy: finding the treatment you need in another country, and then fighting Canadian bureaucrats (and often suing) to get them to pick up the tab.

And the truth.......that Canadians don't see until it is too late.....

My health-care prejudices crumbled not in the classroom but on the way to one. On a subzero Winnipeg morning in 1997, I cut across the hospital emergency room to shave a few minutes off my frigid commute. Swinging open the door, I stepped into a nightmare: the ER overflowed with elderly people on stretchers, waiting for admission. Some, it turned out, had waited five days. The air stank with sweat and urine. Right then, I began to reconsider everything that I thought I knew about Canadian health care. I soon discovered that the problems went well beyond overcrowded ERs. Patients had to wait for practically any diagnostic test or procedure, such as the man with persistent pain from a hernia operation whom we referred to a pain clinic—with a three-year wait list; or the woman needing a sleep study to diagnose what seemed like sleep apnea, who faced a two-year delay; or the woman with breast cancer who needed to wait four months for radiation therapy, when the standard of care was four week
 
This is what Democrats want for Americans. It's not about improving health care for Americans; it's about dragging us all down to equal substandard care, but hey, everyone will have it and it will be "free."

If democrats actually wanted a public option, I would still be a registered democrat. Democrats wouldn't have lost in 2016 if they were for such progressive programs.

What democrats want is more affordable health care ( but not too affordable because their donors still need to make money). We pay more in Healthcare than any other 1st world nation in the world. It's ridiculous we have folks in debt because of medical bills.

Reagan repealing the HMO act was VERY BAD.

The President cannot repeal anything. Have a nice day! :D

He signed it. No signature, no repeal. Have a nice day! :D
 
at this rate their health program will rate right there with cuba

another socialist utopia the leftards love so much

We didn't make the top 16.

The 16 countries with the world's best healthcare systems

That's why the rest of the world flocks to the US when they need the best healthcare!

That's why Americans flock to Mexico for affordable healthcare.

It may be affordable, but it isn't "healthy" care.
 
This is what Democrats want for Americans. It's not about improving health care for Americans; it's about dragging us all down to equal substandard care, but hey, everyone will have it and it will be "free."

If democrats actually wanted a public option, I would still be a registered democrat. Democrats wouldn't have lost in 2016 if they were for such progressive programs.

What democrats want is more affordable health care ( but not too affordable because their donors still need to make money). We pay more in Healthcare than any other 1st world nation in the world. It's ridiculous we have folks in debt because of medical bills.

Reagan repealing the HMO act was VERY BAD.

The President cannot repeal anything. Have a nice day! :D

He signed it. No signature, no repeal. Have a nice day! :D

So, you admit being an idiot? Repeal means that a law was passed specifically repealing that legislation. Reagan cannot pass a law. Have a nice day, idiot! :D
 
Yep.....the problem with socialized medicine...you run out of money....

Canada spends about half of what America spends on medical care, yet they have universal care and better health. If running out of money is an issue, America is in the worst shape in the world, because America spends the most on health care.

Of the western countries with socialized medicine, Britain's socialist healthcare is among the most poorly implemented. To be fair, Britain and the US have more of a demographic problem (inferior races) than does Canada.

Isn't spending on healthcare due to Canada having less population than California?

Only 32% of citizens of Canada are Canadian while 68% are immigrants.
 
at this rate their health program will rate right there with cuba

another socialist utopia the leftards love so much

We didn't make the top 16.

The 16 countries with the world's best healthcare systems

That's why the rest of the world flocks to the US when they need the best healthcare!

That's why Americans flock to Mexico for affordable healthcare.

It may be affordable, but it isn't "healthy" care.

The fact of affordability is wrong.
 
This is what Democrats want for Americans. It's not about improving health care for Americans; it's about dragging us all down to equal substandard care, but hey, everyone will have it and it will be "free."

If democrats actually wanted a public option, I would still be a registered democrat. Democrats wouldn't have lost in 2016 if they were for such progressive programs.

What democrats want is more affordable health care ( but not too affordable because their donors still need to make money). We pay more in Healthcare than any other 1st world nation in the world. It's ridiculous we have folks in debt because of medical bills.

Reagan repealing the HMO act was VERY BAD.

The President cannot repeal anything. Have a nice day! :D

He signed it. No signature, no repeal. Have a nice day! :D

So, you admit being an idiot? Repeal means that a law was passed specifically repealing that legislation. Reagan cannot pass a law. Have a nice day, idiot! :D

Reagan signed it.
 
Yep.....the problem with socialized medicine...you run out of money......and then you have to stop giving even crap care to your people...and the really funny part....you have taxed those people at about 60% on their incomes to pay for healthcare you will no longer give them.....

Socialized medicine...when you want to pay for healthcare, but don't want actual medical treatment....

Great moments in single payer: Britain cancels 50,000 surgeries - Hot Air

The UK’s vaunted single-payer system has collapsed into “third world” conditions, thanks to a lack of resources that has ambulances unable to pick up patients, who would find difficulty in getting an empty bed at a hospital. The order came down this week from on high to cancel as many as 50,000 scheduled surgeries over the next several weeks until the National Health Service can figure out how to climb out of the hole (via Guy Benson):

SEE ALSO: Iran protests dying down?

Every hospital in the country has been ordered to cancel all non-urgent surgery until at least February in an unprecedented step by NHS officials.

The instructions on Tuesday night – which will see result in around 50,000 operations being axed – followed claims by senior doctors that patients were being treated in “third world” conditions, as hospital chief executives warned of the worst winter crisis for three decades.

Hospitals are reporting growing chaos, with a spike in winter flu leaving frail patients facing 12-hour waits, and some units running out of corridor space.

It’s not just the hospitals, either. The NHS will close down outpatient clinics as well, leaving Britons with very few options for healthcare at the beginning of 2018:
Why don't these people just pay for health insurance and get their surgery done privately?
It works so well in the US.
 

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