Nations largest employer to furlough thousands

[get_involved]

Wow, it may take 4 people instead of 5 people to do the job of 1 person now.

U.S. cuts become real with furlough notices sent to thousands - Yahoo! News

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[depotoo]

Pretty sad when the government is the largest employer in the US...

 

[PaulS1950]

Sad? It's rediculous! How do you support government when they employ more than anyone else?
I would suggest a special tax bracket for government employees but it would just come out of the pay of the honest workers anyway.
How many people do you support? Why can't you claim them as tax exemptions?

 

[KnobbyWalsh]

Sad? It's rediculous! How do you support government when they employ more than anyone else?
I would suggest a special tax bracket for government employees but it would just come out of the pay of the honest workers anyway.
How many people do you support? Why can't you claim them as tax exemptions?

I'm not an honest worker? I work for a state government and work my ass off around 2,500 prison inmates every day.

 

[PaulS1950]

How can you feel honest about a job in which you get paid from the money that other people make?

I am not saying that you don't work hard or that you are a dishonest person - nothing personal but the money you make comes out of my paycheck and I don't have any say in it.
You also probably make more money than I do.

 

[BreezeWood]

if not employed by the gov't at least everyone should have the same security and benefits of gov't employment.

 

[uscitizen]

Congress should have the same health care coverage as the average for all the citizens of the USA.

 

[KnobbyWalsh]

How can you feel honest about a job in which you get paid from the money that other people make?

I am not saying that you don't work hard or that you are a dishonest person - nothing personal but the money you make comes out of my paycheck and I don't have any say in it.
You also probably make more money than I do.

I pay taxes too. And I don't have any say where it goes, especially when it goes to immoral wars to fuel the military industrial complex.

I'm a teacher, so no, I probably don't make as much as you. Teaching is like the ministry - you take a vow of poverty......... OK, not poverty, but I certainly don't have any vacation homes or cushy retirement to look forward to. Shit, where I teach, I'm just happy to come out alive every day.

 

[get_involved]

How can you feel honest about a job in which you get paid from the money that other people make?

I am not saying that you don't work hard or that you are a dishonest person - nothing personal but the money you make comes out of my paycheck and I don't have any say in it.
You also probably make more money than I do.

I pay taxes too. And I don't have any say where it goes, especially when it goes to immoral wars to fuel the military industrial complex.

I'm a teacher, so no, I probably don't make as much as you. Teaching is like the ministry - you take a vow of poverty......... OK, not poverty, but I certainly don't have any vacation homes or cushy retirement to look forward to. Shit, where I teach, I'm just happy to come out alive every day.

You only work 8 months out of the year (3 months for summer vacation, 2 weeks off for Christmas, 1 week for Easter, and other holidays) and after tenure it's almost impossible for you to get fired. Your retirement and health benefits are also better than most people. Stop crying!

 

[ScienceRocks]

The government is always the biggest employer in a socialist nation. What does that say about our country?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Congress should have the same health care coverage as the average for all the citizens of the USA.

yep,

This would give them reason not to destroy our healthcare system.

 

[editec]

after tenure it's almost impossible for you to get fired. Your retirement and health benefits are also better than most people. Stop crying!

You don't know you are talking about.

Not your fault, you've heard that lie repeated so many times, you cannot help but believe it.

But in case you are interested in learning the truth, I invite you to read the contracts of large school systems.

What you will discover for k-12 teachers is that tenure means after you get fired, you get to appeal that firing TO EXACTLY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO FIRED YOU.

You believe a myth, lad.

Time for you to man up and LOOK AT THE FACTS.

 

[zeke]

Pretty sad when the government is the largest employer in the US...

Really? Pretty sad that you don't realize that the governent has been the largest employer in the USA for a long long time.

When did you come to this country? And why?

 

[Warrior102]

Wow, it may take 4 people instead of 5 people to do the job of 1 person now.

U.S. cuts become real with furlough notices sent to thousands - Yahoo! News

-

PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION AGAINST AN AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS!

WHY SIGNING THIS PETITION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN OTHERS!

While every petition, fax, email and phone call against the amnesty is important, signing this petition is by far the most important single thing one of your friends or relatives can do.

The reason is that signing this petition puts a person into an email system at NumbersUSA that will alert them every time one of their elected officials needs to hear something specific about immigration. Nobody else but NumbersUSA runs a customized grassroots mobilization system like this that constantly gathers information on Capitol Hill about your Members of Congress and then lets you know what they are doing, saying and thinking about immigration policy.

The New York Times and other mass media have repeatedly stated that NumbersUSA's mobilization network led the efforts that defeated the close-call amnesty efforts of 2007 and 2010. But the forces for open borders are far more powerful today. Please help by passing along this Petition to everybody you know.

https://www.numbersusa.com/petition?uid=83447

It's OK. It's Obama. Liberals love to see people out of work.

 

[KnobbyWalsh]

How can you feel honest about a job in which you get paid from the money that other people make?

I am not saying that you don't work hard or that you are a dishonest person - nothing personal but the money you make comes out of my paycheck and I don't have any say in it.
You also probably make more money than I do.

I pay taxes too. And I don't have any say where it goes, especially when it goes to immoral wars to fuel the military industrial complex.

I'm a teacher, so no, I probably don't make as much as you. Teaching is like the ministry - you take a vow of poverty......... OK, not poverty, but I certainly don't have any vacation homes or cushy retirement to look forward to. Shit, where I teach, I'm just happy to come out alive every day.

You only work 8 months out of the year (3 months for summer vacation, 2 weeks off for Christmas, 1 week for Easter, and other holidays) and after tenure it's almost impossible for you to get fired. Your retirement and health benefits are also better than most people. Stop crying!

Who's crying? Now, since you know it all, let me fill in the blanks. I teach in a PRISON therefore teach year-round. There is NO tenure. That myth of a cushy retirement and health benefits, man, I wish you were right. I'll never get to retire and that's the goal as these retirement plans continue to up the retirement age, and that's fine. The health care myth is another one where I wish you were right. That's another reason many can't and won't retire - it eats up a lot of what retirement you do get when you retire. So fuck you for saying I was crying - you have no clue. And we're also SECURITY. When something happens at the prison - riot, mass shake down, etc, we're pulled from the classroom and put in the pods right along with the officers because we get the same exact training they officers do. You wouldn't last a day there.

 

[emptystep]

I pay taxes too. And I don't have any say where it goes, especially when it goes to immoral wars to fuel the military industrial complex.

I'm a teacher, so no, I probably don't make as much as you. Teaching is like the ministry - you take a vow of poverty......... OK, not poverty, but I certainly don't have any vacation homes or cushy retirement to look forward to. Shit, where I teach, I'm just happy to come out alive every day.

You only work 8 months out of the year (3 months for summer vacation, 2 weeks off for Christmas, 1 week for Easter, and other holidays) and after tenure it's almost impossible for you to get fired. Your retirement and health benefits are also better than most people. Stop crying!

Who's crying? Now, since you know it all, let me fill in the blanks. I teach in a PRISON therefore teach year-round. There is NO tenure. That myth of a cushy retirement and health benefits, man, I wish you were right. I'll never get to retire and that's the goal as these retirement plans continue to up the retirement age, and that's fine. The health care myth is another one where I wish you were right. That's another reason many can't and won't retire - it eats up a lot of what retirement you do get when you retire. So fuck you for saying I was crying - you have no clue. And we're also SECURITY. When something happens at the prison - riot, mass shake down, etc, we're pulled from the classroom and put in the pods right along with the officers because we get the same exact training they officers do. You wouldn't last a day there.

Off topic but quick question. (I guess on topic because you are 'wasting' the government's/taxpayer's money trying to move criminals from a life of crime to productive individuals of society. I would give you a 15% pay raise if I could vote on that.) What do you teach? (Man, some people are just so stupid as to what a benefit to society/America is. No wonder we have some politicians who walk all over us and we're none the wiser, > Republicans)

 

[KnobbyWalsh]

You only work 8 months out of the year (3 months for summer vacation, 2 weeks off for Christmas, 1 week for Easter, and other holidays) and after tenure it's almost impossible for you to get fired. Your retirement and health benefits are also better than most people. Stop crying!

Who's crying? Now, since you know it all, let me fill in the blanks. I teach in a PRISON therefore teach year-round. There is NO tenure. That myth of a cushy retirement and health benefits, man, I wish you were right. I'll never get to retire and that's the goal as these retirement plans continue to up the retirement age, and that's fine. The health care myth is another one where I wish you were right. That's another reason many can't and won't retire - it eats up a lot of what retirement you do get when you retire. So fuck you for saying I was crying - you have no clue. And we're also SECURITY. When something happens at the prison - riot, mass shake down, etc, we're pulled from the classroom and put in the pods right along with the officers because we get the same exact training they officers do. You wouldn't last a day there.

Off topic but quick question. (I guess on topic because you are 'wasting' the government's/taxpayer's money trying to move criminals from a life of crime to productive individuals of society. I would give you a 15% pay raise if I could vote on that.) What do you teach? (Man, some people are just so stupid as to what a benefit to society/America is. No wonder we have some politicians who walk all over us and we're none the wiser, > Republicans)

See, these right-wing playbook readers don't understand that today's inmates are tomorrow's neighbors. Ever since that sillyass "crackdown on crime" started about 25 years ago, police, but mostly lawyers, judges and the government have been trying to make us all guilty of something, hence prison population in America is stupid huge. Almost all of us know at least one or two people who have been to jail/prison. It's big business.

My job is to get them out and make them taxpaying productive members of society. That's it. I teach mostly math although I'm a social studies person with a masters in history. Shouldn't surprise anyone that research shows that over 70% of freshly minted high school "graduates" cannot even pass the GED! Hell, read these threads and it shouldn't be too much of a shock.

 

[Old Rocks]

How can you feel honest about a job in which you get paid from the money that other people make?

I am not saying that you don't work hard or that you are a dishonest person - nothing personal but the money you make comes out of my paycheck and I don't have any say in it.
You also probably make more money than I do.

Dumb fuck. Was I a dishonest person when I took the very small amount of money that I was paid while in uniform?

You dumb shits just think that the streets get repaired by fairies? That the pure water that comes from your faucet is done without anyone lifting a hand?



Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and fresh because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards.

With his first swallow of coffee, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised. All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.



He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girlie-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor. Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards.

Joe's employer pays the same standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It is noon and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FDIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below- market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by the Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big- government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.

He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father has Medicare, lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine- drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."

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[Papageorgio]

Our economy is $16 trillion, it is tough seeing $22 billion cut out and having a big impact. That was like 2% of the stimulus package.

I also think there is a lot of waste in government, so maybe government could take this opportunity to run more efficiently. Okay, that's a reach, but wishful thinking.

 

[emptystep]

Paul, this is a government where one can vote, one can mail, call, email, heck, one can even stand outside Congress's door. There is something else this government has that you can use, which you are using right now, freedom of speech. There are currently 274 people viewing Politics. According to the site there are 1225 (86 members and 1139 guests) active at this very moment on the USMB. (Why the Hell the guests I don't know. We must look like some pretty strange fish in a bowl, thread for another time.)

What you do vote, mail, call, email, and even type on this message board does give you a say in the process. You can complain that some people have more say than you and then you can wonder who and how and when to come to the answer to that question we will be here for you, on the other side.