NC governor recommends suspending elections for years to focus on jobs

[bigrebnc1775]

bigrebnc's message, and your support of it, define its messengers.

Yes, Gaea forbid you abide by the same standards you insist others do.

He's such a asshat isn't he?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Dude seperation of church and state was not in the constitution, the idea originated in a letter written well after the constitution was written.

The constitution also does not put constitutional supremacy over states rights, hence the 10th.

The taxing is in there but it was to be UNIFORM throughout the states, not progressive as it is now.

I think you have some things confused.

Wrong. The Supremacy Clause puts 'constitutional supremacy over states rights. The 10th amendment only allows states authority that is not in conflict with the constitution.

You better re-read the 10th amendment.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

What does the powers not delegated to the United States mean? Thats the first part you must answer.

To simplify things The sates gave certian authority to the federal government, Helathcare wasn't one of those things marriage wasn't one of those things.

Now comes the prohibited part those things the states gave control to the feds the fed can rule over.

Have a nice day.

It means the States are allowed to do anything the Constitution doesn't prohibit them from doing,

which means the Constitution is Supreme except where it chooses not to be.

 

[daveman]

No, actually, if elections were suspended by a vote of some sort, in accordance with the Constitution,

that would be democracy in action.

The only way they could be suspended is by amending the Constitution, retard. It could never be done "in accordance with the Constitution" as it now stands.

You really are a retard, aren't you?

That's what I said. You vote in order to amend the Constitution, in case you haven't heard.

So the only thing she could have been referring to, if she was serious, as you people keep claiming,

is amending the Constitution. Which would be perfectly democratic.

You have no proof that's what she was suggesting. And no, wishful thinking is not proof.

 

[daveman]

bigrebnc's message, and your support of it, define its messengers.

Yes, Gaea forbid you abide by the same standards you insist others do.

He's such a asshat isn't he?

It's funny the way he makes such grand pronouncements, as if we should all be grateful he deigned to speak with us.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Wrong. The Supremacy Clause puts 'constitutional supremacy over states rights. The 10th amendment only allows states authority that is not in conflict with the constitution.

You better re-read the 10th amendment.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

What does the powers not delegated to the United States mean? Thats the first part you must answer.

To simplify things The sates gave certian authority to the federal government, Helathcare wasn't one of those things marriage wasn't one of those things.

Now comes the prohibited part those things the states gave control to the feds the fed can rule over.

Have a nice day.

It means the States are allowed to do anything the Constitution doesn't prohibit them from doing,

which means the Constitution is Supreme except where it chooses not to be.

How can the feds give something they never had? Who created the federal government?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Wrong. The Supremacy Clause puts 'constitutional supremacy over states rights. The 10th amendment only allows states authority that is not in conflict with the constitution.

You better re-read the 10th amendment.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

What does the powers not delegated to the United States mean? Thats the first part you must answer.

To simplify things The sates gave certian authority to the federal government, Helathcare wasn't one of those things marriage wasn't one of those things.

Now comes the prohibited part those things the states gave control to the feds the fed can rule over.

Have a nice day.

It means the States are allowed to do anything the Constitution doesn't prohibit them from doing,

which means the Constitution is Supreme except where it chooses not to be.

Fucking ignoramus

There is not one single state that would have ratified the Constitution if they saw the fucking mess you Progressives made out of the government today

 

[thereisnospoon]

You are the RINO, bigrebnc: you do not believe in classical liberal positions as do all true Republicans. The Founders passed a charter for governance that including representation, increasing enfranchisement, constitutional supremacy over states rights, a taxing authority and mechanism, a separation of state and organized religion, and an Articles III and V that provide the proper method of understanding and changing the document.

You are not a Republican.

Dude seperation of church and state was not in the constitution, the idea originated in a letter written well after the constitution was written.

The constitution also does not put constitutional supremacy over states rights, hence the 10th.

The taxing is in there but it was to be UNIFORM throughout the states, not progressive as it is now.

I think you have some things confused.

Wrong. The Supremacy Clause puts 'constitutional supremacy over states rights. The 10th amendment only allows states authority that is not in conflict with the constitution.

AMENDMENT X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Your premise is a huge stretch....
CRS/LII Annotated Constitution Tenth Amendment.

You never posted a link to the "Supremacy clause".
I posted the link above for the "annotations".
You Lefties concern yourselves with Constitutional matters only when it works to your political advantage

 

[bripat9643]

Wrong. The Supremacy Clause puts 'constitutional supremacy over states rights. The 10th amendment only allows states authority that is not in conflict with the constitution.

No it doesn't. A great Constitutional scholar like you should know that an Amendment invalidates any previously existing text in the Constitution that conflicts with it. The Constitution enumerates the powers allowed for the federal government, so any other powers are reserved to the states.

 

[JakeStarkey]

spoon and bri' wish to ignore more than 200 years of American history, constitutional law, development of SCOTUS, etc. These are settled issues, little ones, and we are not going back to 1791. Just not going to happen. Run along.

 

[thereisnospoon]

spoon and bri' wish to ignore more than 200 years of American history, constitutional law, development of SCOTUS, etc. These are settled issues, little ones, and we are not going back to 1791. Just not going to happen. Run along.

Ok...you go ahead and insist you are correct ..If it makes you feel better.
The 10th Amendment states what it states. Read the annotations on the link I provided.
Or is that outside the norm of your play book?
Politics aside, for example, Roe v Wade would have been overturned long ago because the Court overstepped it's Constitutional authority in two places. First, the Court ruled the right to an abortion was based on "right to privacy". That was a misinterpretation of the 4th Amendment. Most agree there is no Constutional right to privacy. As a matter of fact, had smarter people been present, Robert Bork would be a sitting Associate Justice on the US Supreme Court. However, when Bork was grilled about this one point, his nomination was rejected by the democrat controlled Senate. Hence the term "Borked".
Second, the Court usurped the 10th Amendment's "States Rights" clause in that since the right to privacy exists in the 4th Amendment, therefore must apply to all states on Constitutional grounds.
Both points used in the Court's ruling are disputed by legal experts.
Roe will most likely stay intact simply because it is a political hot potato no one wants to go near.
Now, where the US Constitution came into play over the silly and frequent gaffes by a governor known for these shoot from the hip comments is a mystery.
Perdue is going to be a one term governor. She has to wear cast iron shoes due to the frequency in which she shoots herself in the foot.

 

[JakeStarkey]

We live in 2011 not 1791.

You can rant and pant all you want, but no one cares.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

We live in 2011 not 1791.

You can rant and pant all you want, but no one cares.

Don't think that your word carry's any weight around here, no one gives a shit what you think

 

[thereisnospoon]

We live in 2011 not 1791.

You can rant and pant all you want, but no one cares.

And you can fire one liners at will. Still you have nothing to refute the facts.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The only way they could be suspended is by amending the Constitution, retard. It could never be done "in accordance with the Constitution" as it now stands.

You really are a retard, aren't you?

That's what I said. You vote in order to amend the Constitution, in case you haven't heard.

So the only thing she could have been referring to, if she was serious, as you people keep claiming,

is amending the Constitution. Which would be perfectly democratic.

You have no proof that's what she was suggesting. And no, wishful thinking is not proof.

You proved when you insisted she was being serious. Seriously, that's the only way it could happen, by amendment.

Unless now you want to retract your wishful thinking that she was being serious.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Dude seperation of church and state was not in the constitution, the idea originated in a letter written well after the constitution was written.

The constitution also does not put constitutional supremacy over states rights, hence the 10th.

The taxing is in there but it was to be UNIFORM throughout the states, not progressive as it is now.

I think you have some things confused.

Wrong. The Supremacy Clause puts 'constitutional supremacy over states rights. The 10th amendment only allows states authority that is not in conflict with the constitution.

AMENDMENT X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Your premise is a huge stretch....
CRS/LII Annotated Constitution Tenth Amendment.

You never posted a link to the "Supremacy clause".
I posted the link above for the "annotations".
You Lefties concern yourselves with Constitutional matters only when it works to your political advantage

The Tenthers are as bad as the Birthers and Truthers.

 

[Uncensored2008]

We live in 2011 not 1791.

You can rant and pant all you want, but no one cares.

Jake, you're stuck in 1917 Moscow.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The Tenthers are as bad as the Birthers and Truthers.

Yep, that constitution is such an annoyance to you democrats. How you yearn to do away with it once and for all.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Wrong. The Supremacy Clause puts 'constitutional supremacy over states rights. The 10th amendment only allows states authority that is not in conflict with the constitution.

No it doesn't. A great Constitutional scholar like you should know that an Amendment invalidates any previously existing text in the Constitution that conflicts with it. The Constitution enumerates the powers allowed for the federal government, so any other powers are reserved to the states.

Then name a state power that is in conflict with the Constitution.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The Tenthers are as bad as the Birthers and Truthers.

Yep, that constitution is such an annoyance to you democrats. How you yearn to do away with it once and for all.

I'm starting to think no one cares about the Constitution unless it's an issue that directly touches them.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Wrong. The Supremacy Clause puts 'constitutional supremacy over states rights. The 10th amendment only allows states authority that is not in conflict with the constitution.

AMENDMENT X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Your premise is a huge stretch....
CRS/LII Annotated Constitution Tenth Amendment.

You never posted a link to the "Supremacy clause".
I posted the link above for the "annotations".
You Lefties concern yourselves with Constitutional matters only when it works to your political advantage

The Tenthers are as bad as the Birthers and Truthers.

I'll be a tenther my whole life you'll just be a subject for as long as you are not deemed a danger to the system