NC New Welfare Drug Test Law: 1/3rd Tested Positive from Sample.

[Skull Pilot]

The only reason to drug test people is to further punish them for not having a job so you have to make sure they know they will be subjected to peeing in containers for their amusement

Why is it unfair to drug test someone on taxpayer assistance yet fair to drug test people in order to keep an actual job and contribute to society?

Who said it was fair to drug test for a job?

It has nothing to do with fair or unfair all you have to do is notify people that it is a requirement
If they don't want to get tested they don't have to apply

 

[Skull Pilot]

The only reason to drug test people is to further punish them for not having a job so you have to make sure they know they will be subjected to peeing in containers for their amusement

No it's to punish them for using tax payer money for illegal activities

Why do you want to fund crime?

Drug tests doesnt show what money was used for drugs goofball

If they have money to buy drugs that is not coming from their government checks then they don't need those checks

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The only reason to drug test people is to further punish them for not having a job so you have to make sure they know they will be subjected to peeing in containers for their amusement

No it's to punish them for using tax payer money for illegal activities

Why do you want to fund crime?

Drug tests doesnt show what money was used for drugs goofball

If your on the dole, and your buying drugs, then you are using the money for drugs.

It really is that simple.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

North Carolina begins drug tests for welfare applicants | Myinforms

"State officials presented early results Tuesday of a new law that requires drug tests for welfare applicants. Of several thousand people who were screened, 89 people took the test and 21 of them tested positive.The law requiring testing of any Work First recipient suspected of being a drug user was enacted in 2013 over Gov. Pat McCrory’s veto."

I voted "other" because I don't think social welfare should exist, but you could put me down as a Yes while it exists.

 

[ABikerSailor]

What about the people in CO who are on assistance programs? Up there, cannabis is legal, so if they pop positive on a urine test for cannabis ONLY, should they lose their benefits as well?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Why should I supplement anyone's income so that they can get high?

 

[ClosedCaption]

The only reason to drug test people is to further punish them for not having a job so you have to make sure they know they will be subjected to peeing in containers for their amusement

No it's to punish them for using tax payer money for illegal activities

Why do you want to fund crime?

Drug tests doesnt show what money was used for drugs goofball

If they have money to buy drugs that is not coming from their government checks then they don't need those checks

According to you, but that means nothing

 

[Fair&Balanced]

The only reason to drug test people is to further punish them for not having a job so you have to make sure they know they will be subjected to peeing in containers for their amusement

No it's to punish them for using tax payer money for illegal activities

Why do you want to fund crime?

Drug tests doesnt show what money was used for drugs goofball

Common sense tells us that drugs are bought with MONEY

 

[Skull Pilot]

The only reason to drug test people is to further punish them for not having a job so you have to make sure they know they will be subjected to peeing in containers for their amusement

No it's to punish them for using tax payer money for illegal activities

Why do you want to fund crime?

Drug tests doesnt show what money was used for drugs goofball

If they have money to buy drugs that is not coming from their government checks then they don't need those checks

According to you, but that means nothing

It wouldn't to you because you don't want to lose your welfare check

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The only reason to drug test people is to further punish them for not having a job so you have to make sure they know they will be subjected to peeing in containers for their amusement

No it's to punish them for using tax payer money for illegal activities

Why do you want to fund crime?

Drug tests doesnt show what money was used for drugs goofball

If they have money to buy drugs that is not coming from their government checks then they don't need those checks

According to you, but that means nothing

OK, why so you think it is OK to get money to help you exist, and then spend money on illicit drugs?

 

[ClosedCaption]

The only reason to drug test people is to further punish them for not having a job so you have to make sure they know they will be subjected to peeing in containers for their amusement

No it's to punish them for using tax payer money for illegal activities

Why do you want to fund crime?

Drug tests doesnt show what money was used for drugs goofball

If your on the dole, and your buying drugs, then you are using the money for drugs.

It really is that simple.

No, but you wish it was

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The only reason to drug test people is to further punish them for not having a job so you have to make sure they know they will be subjected to peeing in containers for their amusement

No it's to punish them for using tax payer money for illegal activities

Why do you want to fund crime?

Drug tests doesnt show what money was used for drugs goofball

If your on the dole, and your buying drugs, then you are using the money for drugs.

It really is that simple.

No, but you wish it was

Again, if you're so bad off that you require public assistance, then why are you spending money on drugs? In what world is that OK?

 

[Fair&Balanced]

What about the people in CO who are on assistance programs? Up there, cannabis is legal, so if they pop positive on a urine test for cannabis ONLY, should they lose their benefits as well?

Tricky one.
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If they pop b/c of medical use, no. Recreational use yes. Same as with tobacco or alcohol. If you have the money for these extras, then you don't need the welfare.

I have 50 Mpbs internet. If I were to apply for welfare I would expect them to say "if you can afford $100 a month for internet, you can afford your own food" etc etc as well.

Welfare is supposed to be a temporary supplement, not a lifestyle extender, and it certainly has became that.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

It would be like taking your buddy in because he is down on his luck.. you feed him, let him stay rent-free, and every time he gets two cents, he gets drunk.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Does it really not compute with some of yall that we are actually encouraging destructive habits when we allow these things to happen? Did anyone read the article I linked?

 

[Fair&Balanced]

It would be like taking your buddy in because he is down on his luck.. you feed him, let him stay rent-free, and every time he gets two cents, he gets drunk.

I've noticed that these liberals are all for the government putting up with behaviors they never would put up with in their personal lives.a s
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No sane person would ever let a stranger move into their home rent free, pay for all their utilities and their food while they spent all their own money on "fun stuff" and then tell people "well, they're down on their luck so it's okay" yet all these loony liberals want the government to do exactly that.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

It would be like taking your buddy in because he is down on his luck.. you feed him, let him stay rent-free, and every time he gets two cents, he gets drunk.

I've noticed that these liberals are all for the government putting up with behaviors they never would put up with in their personal lives.a s
eir
No sane person would ever let a stranger move into their home rent free, pay for all their utilities and their food while they spent all their own money on "fun stuff" and then tell people "well, they're down on their luck so it's okay" yet all these loony liberals want the government to do exactly that.

Yep, and as someone pointed out earlier, how is one ever going to get off welfare if they can't pass a drug test to get a job?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Defending drug use by people on public assistance is, well, indefensible. There is no rational argument for it.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

It would be like taking your buddy in because he is down on his luck.. you feed him, let him stay rent-free, and every time he gets two cents, he gets drunk.

I've noticed that these liberals are all for the government putting up with behaviors they never would put up with in their personal lives.a s
eir
No sane person would ever let a stranger move into their home rent free, pay for all their utilities and their food while they spent all their own money on "fun stuff" and then tell people "well, they're down on their luck so it's okay" yet all these loony liberals want the government to do exactly that.

Yep, and as someone pointed out earlier, how is one ever going to get off welfare if they can't pass a drug test to get a job?

I'm fairly convinced that they don't want them to get jobs, they want a vast group of sad sacks who are happily sucking at the trough and voting Dem.

 

[Clementine]

Who said it was fair to drug test for a job?

So you're cool with school bus drivers doing drugs? It may or may not be fair. It's been done for years. A lot of things aren't fair, like Obamacare forcing us to participate in commerce, but it's the law.

And it is counterproductive to offer welfare to people when they will just use the money for drugs instead of feeding themselves and their children. The left claims that welfare isn't enough for the basic necessities, so if a person is spending money on drugs, are they not abusing the system? If they have children, are they not neglecting them when money is spent on drugs, alcohol or cigarettes when it clearly means that there won't be money for food and clothing?

It's actually more fair to test those who want our money. It shouldn't be an unconditional thing. Those who live off others should have legitimate reasons and there should be conditions attached to ensure that the money is spent where it's supposed to be and that able-bodied people are trying to get back on their feet.