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The founders did not anticipate the 2 party system and slavery majorly factored into their creation of the electoral college. They did not anticipate totally partisan tickets that the 12th Amendment created. Or maybe they did, SINCE THEY MADE ALLOWANCE FOR STATES TO ALLOCATE ELECTORAL VOTES HOWEVER THEY PLEASE.Determined by the majority. Republicans will have to stop villifying cities and their suburbs. It was good politics for Reagan to destroy the inner cities, it’s great politics for Trump to vilify our cities and Americans who live in them; it won’t be anymore.No need to bother to vote in Nevada. The election will be determined by those Moon Bat and Illegal assholes in New York and California.
My as well go golfing on election day.
Fuck the majority when the shitheads want to use the filthy oppressive government to steal you money or take away your liberties.
Democracy can be just as oppressive as any other form of government.
Our Founding Fathers knew that and the EC helps to mitigate that oppression a little bit.
So you object to what the majority of NV voters want to do now?I live in Nevada and can say California and progs are turning the place into a real shit-hole. Progs are so fucking ignorant they left their beds, they're too foolish to understand why, so they ruin another as if they have the brains of mosquitoes. There is no way in fuck this legislation comes to fruition, it's against our MFing Constitution and Republic.
But you are ok with states with lots fewer CITIZENS being allowed to decide elections.So you are against the people deciding on our President.
Nope. I'm against having a few States deciding elections.
Nope. Without the EC they would never have a vote that counted
The EC just levels things out so that the populous States don't get to decide every election.
No, they would have the same one person, one vote as everyone else.
Sure they would but the more populous States would decide every election by virtue of population.
You bring up an excellent point.....not comments from the CRCs here about attracting more voters....just whining.Determined by the majority. Republicans will have to stop villifying cities and their suburbs. It was good politics for Reagan to destroy the inner cities, it’s great politics for Trump to vilify our cities and Americans who live in them; it won’t be anymore.No need to bother to vote in Nevada. The election will be determined by those Moon Bat and Illegal assholes in New York and California.
My as well go golfing on election day.
No one is saying that. In fact some of us have made it VERY clear that it is thru our representative form of government at the state level that these changes are occurring WITH the consent of state citizens. If they did not approve of these changes, their legistators would be voted out. That is a representative form of government.I'm assuming that you want to take this country from a republic to a democracy, RW.The popular vote is not mootIs California and New York in on this? Of course eventually then the EC is moot point. Perhaps the deplorables can elect their own President and you can elect yours.That is a very good question you should ask yourself.....what happened to states rights?What happened to the CRC support for states rights? It seems to have gone "poof!"
A state votes for one candidate, yet the electoral votes goes to the other candidate. Priceless.
That is what happens right now
If 49 percent of the voters vote for a candidate and 51 percent vote for another then the candidate with 51 gets ALL the EVs
The vote of the 49 percent are not counted
EVERY vote would be registered for each candidate
EVERY vote would count as one vote
Five or six states can elect a president, and the rest of the states just has to pound sand?
Not being represented very well, IMO.
So citizen voters are a mob now?Lefties love mob rule. Matters not to them WHO is in the mob either.
Gotta give them space to riot ya know!
Any bunch of idiots touting this crap has shitforbrains. There is this little thing called the constitution to deal with. Do you have even the foggiest notion what it takes to amend the constitution? Allow me to clue you in. To become an operative part of the Constitution, an amendment, whether proposed by Congress or a national constitutional convention must be ratified by either: The legislatures of three-fourths (at present 38) of the states; or. State ratifying conventions in three-fourths (at present 38) of the states.The Nevada Senate approved Tuesday a National Popular Vote bill on a party-line vote, sending the legislation aimed at upending the Electoral College to the governor.
Assembly Bill 186, which passed the Senateon a 12-8 vote, would bring Nevada into the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, an agreement between participating states to cast their electoral votes for the winner of the popular vote.
If signed as expected by Democratic Gov. Steve Sisolak, Nevada would become the 16th jurisdiction to join the compact, along with 14 states and the District of Columbia. The compact would take effect after states totaling 270 electoral votes, and with Nevada, the total would reach 195.
Nevada Senate passes National Popular Vote bill on party-line vote
That’s 2 new states in less than 2 months. The NPV keeps chugging along.
No one is saying that. In fact some of us have made it VERY clear that it is thru our representative form of government at the state level that these changes are occurring WITH the consent of state citizens. If they did not approve of these changes, their legistators would be voted out. That is a representative form of government.I'm assuming that you want to take this country from a republic to a democracy, RW.The popular vote is not mootIs California and New York in on this? Of course eventually then the EC is moot point. Perhaps the deplorables can elect their own President and you can elect yours.That is a very good question you should ask yourself.....what happened to states rights?
A state votes for one candidate, yet the electoral votes goes to the other candidate. Priceless.
That is what happens right now
If 49 percent of the voters vote for a candidate and 51 percent vote for another then the candidate with 51 gets ALL the EVs
The vote of the 49 percent are not counted
EVERY vote would be registered for each candidate
EVERY vote would count as one vote
Five or six states can elect a president, and the rest of the states just has to pound sand?
Not being represented very well, IMO.
This has nothing to do with any amendment or changing the electoral college. Hilarious how you’re going to join a thread on page 19, and you fly in with the most retarded argument that has been debunked over a dozen pages ago. Poor effort.Any bunch of idiots touting this crap has shitforbrains. There is this little thing called the constitution to deal with. Do you have even the foggiest notion what it takes to amend the constitution? Allow me to clue you in. To become an operative part of the Constitution, an amendment, whether proposed by Congress or a national constitutional convention must be ratified by either: The legislatures of three-fourths (at present 38) of the states; or. State ratifying conventions in three-fourths (at present 38) of the states.The Nevada Senate approved Tuesday a National Popular Vote bill on a party-line vote, sending the legislation aimed at upending the Electoral College to the governor.
Assembly Bill 186, which passed the Senateon a 12-8 vote, would bring Nevada into the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, an agreement between participating states to cast their electoral votes for the winner of the popular vote.
If signed as expected by Democratic Gov. Steve Sisolak, Nevada would become the 16th jurisdiction to join the compact, along with 14 states and the District of Columbia. The compact would take effect after states totaling 270 electoral votes, and with Nevada, the total would reach 195.
Nevada Senate passes National Popular Vote bill on party-line vote
That’s 2 new states in less than 2 months. The NPV keeps chugging along.
The chances of that happening are exactly nil.
Cities don't vote....people vote. That's just as poor an argument as those posting maps of all the counties as if they vote, not people.The EC is ment to protect the vote of ALL people not just the big cities.So you are against the people deciding on our President.Give me a past exmaple where California's votes would have gone ot the popular vote winner even though California voted for the other candidate. Have fun.
So far all we have is the electoral college picking the loser, twice within 20 years.
Look it up yourself.
It's never happened, at least not in over 100 years. However twice the popular vote winner which California voted for lost the electoral college. But you guys don't care about that.
I'm a firm believer in the EC.
If not for the EC all elections would be decided by California, New York and the other high population states.
Less populous states votes wouldn't count at all.
If this compact ever got to 270 there is no doubt it would be challenged and decided by the SCOTUS.
name-calling again.That's because the house and Senate have other protections and location specific guidelines ya moron.Are we going to stop electing Senators and Representatives? No? Then it’s YOU who doesn’t know what a republic is. Every election but one is done by popular vote. If you don’t like this, pass an amendment taking away state’s right to allocate their electoral votes.No we wouldn't. You clearly don't understand the difference between a true democracy (mob rule and what you are advocating for) or our current system.People will elect the President. Why are you perseverating on states as if they are people?I'm assuming that you want to take this country from a republic to a democracy, RW.The popular vote is not moot
EVERY vote would be registered for each candidate
EVERY vote would count as one vote
Five or six states can elect a president, and the rest of the states just has to pound sand?
Not being represented very well, IMO.
We will still be a republic.
Yall can't make up your minds.....socialism, democracy, republic. Seems you change positions on the fly based on the subject at hand
Insight into what the CRC really thinks about this country and our form of government.Determined by the majority. Republicans will have to stop villifying cities and their suburbs. It was good politics for Reagan to destroy the inner cities, it’s great politics for Trump to vilify our cities and Americans who live in them; it won’t be anymore.No need to bother to vote in Nevada. The election will be determined by those Moon Bat and Illegal assholes in New York and California.
My as well go golfing on election day.
Fuck the majority when the shitheads want to use the filthy oppressive government to steal you money or take away your liberties.
Democracy can be just as oppressive as any other form of government.
Our Founding Fathers knew that and the EC helps to mitigate that oppression a little bit.
Insight into what the CRC really thinks about this country and our form of government.Determined by the majority. Republicans will have to stop villifying cities and their suburbs. It was good politics for Reagan to destroy the inner cities, it’s great politics for Trump to vilify our cities and Americans who live in them; it won’t be anymore.No need to bother to vote in Nevada. The election will be determined by those Moon Bat and Illegal assholes in New York and California.
My as well go golfing on election day.
Fuck the majority when the shitheads want to use the filthy oppressive government to steal you money or take away your liberties.
Democracy can be just as oppressive as any other form of government.
Our Founding Fathers knew that and the EC helps to mitigate that oppression a little bit.
You bed wetters can't win according to the rules, so you have to change them.
It will fail as soon as it ends up in a court with non-bed wetter judges.
You bed wetters can't win according to the rules, so you have to change them.
It will fail as soon as it ends up in a court with non-bed wetter judges.
Even if the rules were changed, and they lost, they would try to go back to the old rules.
Suppose the compact was passed, and the GOP won Texas by 10 million votes and Oklahoma by 5 million, but would have lost the electoral vote. They would abrogate the so-called "pact"
No rules are being changed. If you want your scenario to happen, have your candidate compete for the votes of Americans, not just a couple swing states.You bed wetters can't win according to the rules, so you have to change them.
It will fail as soon as it ends up in a court with non-bed wetter judges.
Even if the rules were changed, and they lost, they would try to go back to the old rules.
Suppose the compact was passed, and the GOP won Texas by 10 million votes and Oklahoma by 5 million, but would have lost the electoral vote. They would abrogate the so-called "pact"
