New Benghazi E-mails Link White House to Doctoring of Talking Points

[Missouri_Mike]

What difference would it make?

A lot since it wouldn't be true. Stevens was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It was his call. Shit happens just like some kid who dies while driving and texting.

Wrong place wrong time? He wasn't there on fucking vacation you moron. He was there at the direction of the obie, hitlery cabal's directions. Denied the extra security any sane person would expect would be needed on 9-11 and left to die.

Kind of hard to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when you were sent there.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Blaming Stevens for his own murder when he repeatedly asked for more protection from the State Department because of the worsening situation in Libya but was denied that protection is beyond the pale, Paint.

That is untrue. Look it up.

 

[Oldstyle]

What difference would it make?

A lot since it wouldn't be true. Stevens was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It was his call. Shit happens just like some kid who dies while driving and texting.

How do you know what Stevens was doing? Wrong place at the wrong time? HE WAS IN OUR FUCKING ANNEX, YOU ASS CLOWN!!! He wasn't out hitting night clubs looking for hotties! He was in a place that SHOULD have been secure if our Secretary of State wasn't more worried about appearances than she was about security for our diplomatic personnel.

 

[HenryBHough]

Hey! That's the woman who wants to have the red phone at her bedside!

 

[PaintMyHouse]

What difference would it make?

A lot since it wouldn't be true. Stevens was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It was his call. Shit happens just like some kid who dies while driving and texting.

Wrong place wrong time? He wasn't there on fucking vacation you moron. He was there at the direction of the obie, hitlery cabal's directions. Denied the extra security any sane person would expect would be needed on 9-11 and left to die.

Kind of hard to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when you were sent there.

He was sent to Libya, that was his job. Where he was on 9/11 was up to him, and it was 400 miles from the embassy, where no one died, on 9/11. He and his small team made that call. They thought they'd be safe enough even though it was very dangerous and Stevens knew that. It's in the public record. And he never asked for more security. That was a guy from the embassy. Get your story straight.

 

[Vigilante]

EMAIL CONTRADICTS STATE ON MURDERED AMBASSADOR. Official said he received call reporting Stevens ‘alive and well’

 

[PaintMyHouse]

What difference would it make?

A lot since it wouldn't be true. Stevens was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It was his call. Shit happens just like some kid who dies while driving and texting.

How do you know what Stevens was doing? Wrong place at the wrong time? HE WAS IN OUR FUCKING ANNEX, YOU ASS CLOWN!!! He wasn't out hitting night clubs looking for hotties! He was in a place that SHOULD have been secure if our Secretary of State wasn't more worried about appearances than she was about security for our diplomatic personnel.

Had he been at the embassy, 400 miles away, he'd still be alive. He didn't have to be there. He choose to be there that night, and it was a deadly mistake. That city was so hot we were the only ones left, and Stevens knew that. It was, like it or not, his call.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I can't wait until 2016 so that the cons will finally stop ranting about benghazi

A rant is the exact word. That's all they have.

No, we hae the truth: the Obama White House lied to protect their re-election chances.
Obama lied, people died.

It's garbage but that's what you take to be truth so carry on.

 

[Oldstyle]

Blaming Stevens for his own murder when he repeatedly asked for more protection from the State Department because of the worsening situation in Libya but was denied that protection is beyond the pale, Paint.

That is untrue. Look it up.

Gregory Hicks: Benghazi and the Smearing of Chris Stevens - WSJ.com

 

[HenryBHough]

If beggars had horses.........
then we'd know Obama had been handing out goodies again.

If he'd been at a DNC suck-fest in Washington he'd still be alive.

So, what difference does it make? What difference does anything make when a regime founded on apology and weakness flounders on?

 

[Vigilante]

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Blaming Stevens for his own murder when he repeatedly asked for more protection from the State Department because of the worsening situation in Libya but was denied that protection is beyond the pale, Paint.

That is untrue. Look it up.

Gregory Hicks: Benghazi and the Smearing of Chris Stevens - WSJ.com

Post it. Otherwise you got nothin'.

 

[HenryBHough]

Aw damn. Now a liberal wants instructions on how to click on a link.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Aw damn. Now a liberal wants instructions on how to click on a link.

Click on it yourself and find out...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

"Stevens was clearly a courageous man who did not see his mission as sitting safely in the capital city meeting high-level government officials in gilded reception rooms. According to my ex-diplomat friend, Stevens would have had the authority to set his own schedule and travel plans, without Washington’s approval. His familiarity with Benghazi apparently gave him a sense of security about the situation there, even on the anniversary of Sept. 11.

That reading proved to be false — tragically false — but that’s a difficult point for the Obama administration to make without appearing to shift blame to a public servant who was clearly much admired, and who gave his life for our country.

And if Stevens, with all of his first-hand knowledge of the Libyan situation, had not anticipated the scale of the attack, he was not alone.

Eric Nordstrom, who has worked as a State Department security expert since 1998 and had been the State Department’s regional security officer from September 2011 to July 2012, told the House Oversight Committee this month that “I had not seen an attack of such ferocity or intensity previously in Libya, nor in my time in the diplomatic security service.”

“Having an extra foot of wall, or an extra half-dozen guards or agents would not have enabled us to respond to that kind of assault,” Nordstrom said. That was far beyond any security level contemplated for the Benghazi consulate. As Nordstrom told the committee, in February 2012 he requested that the number of diplomatic security personnel assigned to the consulate be doubled, from two to four.

There were five in the compound on the night of the attack.

Nordstrom, who had worked closely with Stevens, also attempted to put the situation into a context that the ambassador would have appreciated.

“We must remember that it is critical that we balance our risk mitigation efforts with the needs of our diplomats to do their jobs,” Nordstrom told Congress. “The answer cannot be that they operate from a bunker.” "
In Benghazi, Stevens fatally misjudged risk, reward | Jay Bookman

 

[Oldstyle]

A lot since it wouldn't be true. Stevens was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It was his call. Shit happens just like some kid who dies while driving and texting.

How do you know what Stevens was doing? Wrong place at the wrong time? HE WAS IN OUR FUCKING ANNEX, YOU ASS CLOWN!!! He wasn't out hitting night clubs looking for hotties! He was in a place that SHOULD have been secure if our Secretary of State wasn't more worried about appearances than she was about security for our diplomatic personnel.

Had he been at the embassy, 400 miles away, he'd still be alive. He didn't have to be there. He choose to be there that night, and it was a deadly mistake. That city was so hot we were the only ones left, and Stevens knew that. It was, like it or not, his call.

You're really quite a disgusting human being, Paint...you're blaming the man who gave up his life serving his country...a man who went to Benghazi to conduct official business for the United States even though he knew it WAS dangerous, for his own murder.

At the beginning of July there were 30 personnel assigned for diplomatic security for Stevens...when the attack took place on 9/11 there were 9. That draw down of security took place despite Chris Steven's requests for more security...including one made the day before the attacks took place. Stevens KNEW that there was looming danger in Libya...it was Hillary Clinton that didn't have a clue about how bad it was. As for Barry? He doesn't know much about ANYTHING that happens in his administration so why would anyone expect him to know about the security of our Ambassador?

 

[Vigilante]

Was Stevens murdered to coverup U.S. gun running from Libya to AlQaeda in Syria?



https://encrypted.google.com/#

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Ambassador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security, U.S. officials say

Read more here: CAIRO: Ambassador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security, U.S. officials say | Middle East | McClatchy DC

"CAIRO — In the month before attackers stormed U.S. facilities in Benghazi and killed four Americans, U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens twice turned down offers of security assistance made by the senior U.S. military official in the region in response to concerns that Stevens had raised in a still secret memorandum, two government officials told McClatchy.

Why Stevens, who died of smoke inhalation in the first of two attacks that took place late Sept. 11 and early Sept. 12, 2012, would turn down the offers remains unclear. The deteriorating security situation in Benghazi had been the subject of a meeting that embassy officials held Aug. 15, where they concluded they could not defend the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi. The next day, the embassy drafted a cable outlining the dire circumstances and saying it would spell out what it needed in a separate cable.

“In light of the uncertain security environment, US Mission Benghazi will submit specific requests to US Embassy Tripoli for additional physical security upgrades and staffing needs by separate cover,” said the cable, which was first reported by Fox News.

Army Gen. Carter Ham, then the head of the U.S. Africa Command, did not wait for the separate cable, however. Instead, after reading the Aug. 16 cable, Ham phoned Stevens and asked if the embassy needed a special security team from the U.S. military. Stevens told Ham it did not, the officials said.

Weeks later, Stevens traveled to Germany for an already scheduled meeting with Ham at AFRICOM headquarters. During that meeting, Ham again offered additional military assets, and Stevens again said no, the two officials said."

Read more here: CAIRO: Ambassador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security, U.S. officials say | Middle East | McClatchy DC

He was no messenger boy there kids. He ran the thing. It was, like it or not, his call to be there, and he damn well knew the risks...

 

[Oldstyle]

A blog? Really? LOL

If Stevens naively misjudged the risk, as your blogger maintains...then kindly explain why he asked for additional security the day before the attacks took place? The truth is that Stevens was well aware of how dangerous it was in Libya and he attempted to communicate his concerns over security to the State Department only to have his requests for more security turned down.

 

[Dr Grump]

Any right wing nut who moans about Benghazi has no credibility....