Norman
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I only found a fake news source for now, will post a real source later.Bullshit. A never ending stream of bullshit is all you post simply because it supports your perverted view of the events. Show me a link proving that!They knew him from other times he was trespassing and stealing."In Georgia, the law states that a private person may arrestsomeone if a crime is committed in his presence or “within his immediate knowledge.” But if it is a felony, the citizen can stop someone from escaping if the citizen has “reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.”TopBut is it a dwelling? Nope. Right now it’s lumber. Nobody is dwelling there because the damn thing is wide open. Nobody has as of yet ever dwelled there, you can see that by the video. It’s property at the moment not living space so it could be argued that the only thing that happened is trespass and not burglary. You don’t kill people for trespassing. You sure as hell don’t kill someone if you DON’T OWN THE PROPERTY! How did the McMichaels know that Arbery wasn’t one of the people working on the house? Arbery could have been a friend of the owner with permission to be there. McMichaels didn’t approach him nicely and question why Arbery was there. They grabbed guns, blocked his path and shot him twice in the chest no questions asked and worst of all IT WASN’T THEIR FUCKING BUSINESS IN THE FIRST PLACE!Trespassing can be charged in public places, and other types of property such as vehicles and boats. Usually associated with damaging the property.No, it's not. Merely being in the building may qualify for trespassing.Nothing needed to be taken, dumbass.Liar. There is no evidence Arbery burglarized that house. The 911 caller did not say anything was taken. The homeowner said nothing was taken. The video of Arbery inside the home does not show him taking anything or looking to take anything.The dwelling under construction.There was no reason for them to stop Arbery so there was no reason for why Arbery would know why they wanted him to stop.Which brings me back to ... with Travis block the road with a shotgun, why should Arbery have assumed they only wanted to talk?He was asking him to stop so they could talk..Liar, McMichael couldn't have just been standing there. Scotty didn't beam him from about 4 feet to the left of the truck to being in front of it.We clearly see the black kid darting in front of the truck to attack the son.. standing there with a shotgun is not an active and aggression he saying stop stop we want to talk to youIt wasn't in self defense. Georgia law does not protect the aggressor in an altercation with self defense. And Travis McMichael was the aggressor by arming himself with no knowledge of Arbery but with the intent to chase him down and stop him.In self defense? You terroristWell they murdered someone, so why is it unfair for them to face the same consequences?you sound like a terrorist.. you want two innocent men in jail to die for political reasons, to race bait.. you are a terroristOh, they'll be treated fairly -- once they're incarcerated. Inmates love cops.They did nothing wrong, if you stop pretending the black did nothing wrong it might dawn on you that this is serious. These men deserve to be treated fairly. Just stop pretending this kid did nothing wrong it insane.Miscarriage of justice,, poor guys are being lynched by democratsFacts of this case......a father and son associated with law enforcement and never in trouble of any kind, never arrested for anything but are called criminals by the liberals
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The black jogger............who comidtted a felony (brought a gun to school) was convicted placed on 5 yrs probation.
The he engaged in theft thus violating his probation.....but nothing was done...he should have been in jail. If he had been where he belonged he would still be alive.
Yet the liberals want us to believe he is just so innocent...he ranks right up there with Mother Teresa
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Then just like the the Zimmerman case the media plays games with photos..........show the best possible photo of the black dude they could find......but show the white dudes in their jail outfit.
Keep tuned this case is getting crazier by the second.
Latest development....video emerges of the black dude visiting that same home at night....what is that all about? Did he have some sort of obsession with that house....maybe Satan lured him there...as in the devil made him do it???
And the Earth is Flat. We faked the moon landing. Artificial Sweeteners are good for you, and Anna Nicole married for Love. Any other insane conspiracy theories you believe in besides these?
Because they had been chasing the person for a good time. There is more info on this in the police report. But it is very inconceivable that at this point, he did not know what the deal was.
They suspected him of burglary.
He was reported to 911.
No reason? Please...
How did they know he was suspected of burglary if the call went to 911?
The police report says:
According to the initial police report, the McMichaels told police that they pursued Arbery because he resembled a suspect in a string of local burglaries.
And soon we will almost certainly find out that he WAS the man behind the burglaries. And leftists will moan and cry as usual when their fake news story gets destroyed piece by piece.
Ok on the day of the shooting what did her burglarize?
If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like ya do.
Merely being in the dwelling without permission is considered burglary in Georgia.
See my previous post, you won’t like it!
What do you think the difference is between trespassing and burglary?
However if the property is a dwelling, then first degree burglary it is. Sorry to break it to you.
Hey they got a place for somone like you in hollywood....writing fiction for some of their idiotic movies.
Anyhow most of what you mention is irrelevant....the only thing relevant to this case is the fact that the black guy attacked a white guy with a shotgun....the video makes that clear....why do liberals refuse to watch the video?
Let me guess...afraid of the truth?
Honestly, it takes a special kind of idiot to completely dismiss as irrelevant the fact that the two guys armed themselves and then got in a pick up and chased this guy down. That will actually be at the very center of this case and, if you don't understand why, you should probably stop commenting.
By the way, I'm a white guy in his late 50's, conservative, NRA member, CWP holder, I carry every day and I hate criminals.
I am profoundly confident in my belief that Travis McMichael and Gregory McMichael will be found guilty of the charges against them and will that they will spend a very, very long time in prison...
In my book being a conservative means being able to conserve something. With this attitude, you won't be able to conserve even your pants, let alone due process or America. You do understand the case is a manufactured case by people who hate you? Literal socialist propaganda and you are slurping it up like a dog.
No. This case is literally a textbook do not do that literally tens of thousands of gun owners have been trained on. Literally.
First. Do not pull or point your weapon unless you intend to use it. Travis broke that rule jumping out of his truck intending to hold the AA at gunpoint for the cops. Second. Do not go looking for trouble. Travis broke that rule too as did Daddy. It was never going to end well. Not in Georgia. Georgia where hundreds of people are in prison right now for Aggravated Assault.
Third. If you do shoot someone shit your fucking mouth. Say nothing until you have a lawyer. Both of the McMichaels broke that rule which is why we have a statement to police that the “conservatives” are busy ignoring.
Fourth. Never forget your license to carry is not a badge and you are not a cop. You do not have powers of arrest. So even the attempt to stop AA was a crime. Especially as part of an armed posse of self appointed yahoos.
Now many people have said that the Aggravated Assault statute was too restrictive. There were meetings in the State Senate to change it. No way it gets changed now. Not with the McMorons literally demonstrating that all the doom and gloom predictions by the anti gunners are totally true. They have set back the effort to protect gun owners by at least a decade.
Worse yet we have to rehash the fucking Hate Crimes law again. So that is going to be an election issue this year thanks to the notoriously corrupt D.A. in Glynn County. Again.
So no. Conservatives are not conserving or preserving. OK. They are preserving the worst traits and stereotypes from history. That is not a thing to proclaim. Not if you consider your beliefs to be based in law and order.
Conservative pundits including those with law degrees disagree with you. But they are wrong and you are right. Cops in Georgia disagree with you. But they are wrong and you are right. Lawyers, Judges, and the gun owners I know. Friends and acquaintances. My neighbors and folks around town alike all say that this was the worst shooting we have had in decades. But they are all wrong and you are right.
Precedence in Georgia law says you are wrong. But anyone who says so is a black apologist to you blithering idiots.
I said it many pages in this thread ago. If you really want to help the McMichaels start collecting money. Because they are going to need a million dollars or more to have any chance at defending themselves in court. The Prosecutor will have access to unlimited funds and power.
You idiots are not helping the McMichaels or your cause. If you want to help, write a check and send it to his family. They are going to need it. Because I figure they have about one chance in ten of a hung jury. They have almost no chance of complete exoneration. But with enough money and a good enough lawyer they might be able to plea bargain themselves out in five to ten. Because the Jury will send them up for twenty to life if it goes to trial. The McMichaels are not going to be facing a rookie Prosecutor. They are going up against the Varsity. The best in the State. All because the Good Old Boys club tried to sweep it under the rug.
Sadly. If they had been arrested at the time of the shooting for the same charges, they might have gotten off with three years or less. Manslaughter and Aggravated Assault. Now to show the outrage at the abuse of position for the Prosecutor in Glynn County they are going for the Max. And the Prosecutors who tried to sweep it under the rug are up for a review which could lose them their law licenses. Corruption runs deep in Georgia. But when it is exposed they throw those few to the wolves to protect the rest.
We have been trying to tell you idiots. But you won’t listen. So keep talking. And keep pushing your insane ideals. I bet you can talk Travis right into death row. He was a hot head who grabbed a gun and in this State that is an express ticket to an extended stay at the Gray Bar Hotel.
You keep making stuff up....no evidence that Travis intended to hold anyone at gunpoint.....thousands of people in Georgia and other states carry guns around with no intent to hold anyone ....that is just some braindead fantasy you have manufactured...completely absurd.
Also a rule is not a law....some gun club or shooting instructor may tell the students do not pull your gun unless you intend to use it....might be good advice in certain situations but not all situations.
Pulling a gun means pulling it out of the holster or your pocket.....how do you pull out a shotgun hehheh. You are so ridiculous.
Then you say Travis jumped out of his truck...trying to make it sound like when the black moron ran up to the truck Travis just jumped out and shot him....more spinning on your part....Travis was out of the truck quite a while before travis ran up on the truck....Travis did not point the shotgun at Travis until he was attacked and even then he had a very difficult time to get it pointed in a manner to score a lethal shot as the Negro kept grabbing the gun...but the black dudes real big mistake was letting go of the gun in order to start punching Travis...this allowed Travis to get a clean shot at his attacker and dispatch the insane negro...Kudos for Travis.
Then you mention aggravated assault....I seriously doubt you have a good understanding of what that is ...especially in this case....you cite laws but as has been said you do not have the intelligence needed to adequately interpet the law. Sure you have been around para-legals but that obviously has not helped you...if you had actually gone to law school you might have learned a bit about how to interpet and apply law....you attempt over and over to use the law to subvert the truth....you fail everytime.
Again and again and again you claim they had no right to make a citizens arrest....bullshite....I cited the Georgia law on that and others have as well.....and here it is again..................In Georgia, the law states that a private person may arrest someone if a crime is committed in his presence or “within his immediate knowledge.” But if it is a felony, the citizen can stop someone from escaping if the citizen has “reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.”
The older white guy had knowledge of a crime from watching a video of the black dude trespassing hence he was entitled to make a citizens arrest....though he did not make a citizens arrest nor attempt to make a citizens arrest.
Thus you keep citing irrelevant bullshit....because you do not want to get down to the nitty gritty of this case aka what is really relevant....so your ramble and ramble trying to divert everyones attention away from the fact that the black dude is the one who committed assault and the jury will have no problem understanding that when they see the video and that is why the blacks got so upset with the guy for releasing the video...it clearly shows the black dude comitting assault.
You also conveiniently forget the elder McMichael had decades of law enforcement experience....he was not just some yahoo as you want to claim.
I do agree with you they should not have been talking without a lawyer....a lot of innocent people make that mistake...thinking because they are innocent they have nothing to worry about....failing to understand how whatever the say can be twisted or in some cases words have been added to their statements they did not even make in order to convict them....thus it is good advice to tell everyone...if you ever get involved with the criminal justice system....just shut up and tell them you want a lawyer.
Then you talk about a 'posse' in another effort to spin a scenario that did not exist aka a group out to lynch some negro....there was the Father and there was the son and they were not out to lynch anyone....they simply wanted this guy caught in order to protect their neighborhood....and there is little doubt that the negro was a danger to the community....as he had well demonstrated previously....carrying a loaded weapon to school, stealing, having a mental history, assault and wandering around at night going into and onto other folks property...if anyone does not see the danger in that they have no business commenting on this case.
Then you go on and on about how they are ceretain to be convicted....ridiculous...of course they will need a good lawyer but that is true of just about everyone that has been charged with a crime....the state actually has a very weak case.....especially with the video and the criminal history of the black guy not even to mention his mental health history.... a lot of folks thought just like you when they predicted George Zimmerman would go to jail....Z prevailed and he did not even have a video to prove the black guy assaulted him...what he did have going for him was a honest jury who saw through the states efforts to railroad a innocent man.
Thus in this case if the McMichaels can also get a honest jury....without a majority of negroes on it...then they should prevail....if there are a lot of negroes on it then the likliehood of a hung jury is very probable.
I do not see them convicted in any way shape or form....they may have to have
two or three trials before the state understands they will not be able to convict them but eventually they will walk.
Great, what felony did Arbery commit that was witnessed by McMichael or that he had immediate knowledge of?
Never mind! You can't, so why not just STFU instead of lying?
They literally called to 911 two weeks before. Get informed loser.
Post it.
It still shows that the no reasonable suspicion story is total lie.
What do you think that proves?
The correct answer is "Not a damn thing" other than the suspect who shot the victim is an overweight, out of shape, piece of human excrement.
funny, he isn't allowed the same rights as the thief to you. amazing. when you got nothing, you are officially a leftist
Yup, defending criminals while wanting (ex) cops to get fucked, even though the cop of the story did not fire any shots, and was not involved in the physical confrontation in any way.
he was no different than the dude with the video.
Well to be fair, leftists want the one who shot the video AND the property owner who suffers from a heart condition to all be lynched, without due process.
And of course, fuck all whites.
