Next up on the Sexual Misconduct Parade - Al Franken!

[Slade3200]

Exactly... If he touches the back of her chair is he grabbing her butt?

She was WEARING the vest. You Hillarybot types want the truth to be what you imagine it to be, but the law is clear.

What does the law say constitutes a "grab"? He was pretending to grab in a distasteful picture.

I guess you'd agree that this guy has a handful of lawsuits on his hands, right?
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I never said he "grabbed". But, his hands were clearly touching the vest above her breasts, when she'd informed him that his touch was unwelcome. Assault and battery. Oh, and the fact that he waited until she was asleep implies he knew it was wrong. You can keep defending him, but it's pointless. The law is clear.

I guess the guy taking the picture should be arrested as an accomplice to battery as well right?

Perhaps he should. I'm given to understand that he was Franken's brother, right?

I dont' know who it was, but I do know you are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. Get real. Go to the hospital and take a look at real assault and battery and see what you are comparing a joke photo to.

 

[hunarcy]

I don't, but I do call you a clueless partisan who is inconsistent in his outrage and not a true Progressive.

Its not a partisan issue at all. I've stated my disgust with Moore and with Bill Clinton. The Franken situation is quite different. I'm looking for an honest conversation about it. What about it am I distorting? You honestly think that pretending to grab the boobs of a sleeping woman wearing a kevlar vest, that he has been doing a sexually charged skit with him for weeks, constitutes assault? You can't be serious.

Of course I'm serious. You are distorting because you don't want to admit he committed a crime when he had that picture made. Your determined defense makes me wonder if a similar picture of you exists. But, long story short, the explanation is in this link ( What is "assault and battery"? - Rottenstein Law Group LLP ) that you seem to have ignored.

I'm not distorting anything. You can go by the letter of the law and try and make a case that the picture show assualt and battery. You will get laughed out of the room. Notice that not even the right wingers are accusing Franken of assault and battery. Wonder why? Because it is a ridiculous claim.

Her account of the back stage kiss is closer to sexual assault. You are better off taking that route for this debate.

I don't care what the right wingers do. I rarely agree with them, though they are usually more acceptable than you Clintonistas. And, by the way, it's the letter of the law that gets you convicted.

Cintonista? I didn't vote for Hillary. Another example that you don't know what you are talking about

Perhaps you didn't, but you certainly argue as emotionally and irrationally as they do. But, I do know what I'm talking about concerning Franken's behavior and the law.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Not to be a dog....however....

What MAN in his right mind would not crave to squeeze these ???
(well...I'm sure there are some ladies out there as well who would like to)

 

[Slade3200]

Could it possibly be because one is innocent and the other is guilty?

EXACTLY. As of right now, Moore is guilty of nothing.

Well technically Bill Clinton is guilty of nothing but cheating on his wife. Is that also what you believe?

Wrong again.

Criminal contempt and perjury.

Ok, but not sexual assault right? All those women were making it up?

Who would prosecute him? Democrats? Right!

Are you dodging the question? Do you think Bill Clinton is guilty of sexual assault on multiple women or not?

 

[jc456]

Al Franken's gives a full-throated apology, insists that an investigation be conducted on him and pledges full co-operation on any forthcoming investigations on him regarding the matter...

Senator Al Franken Accused of Groping a Woman in 2006

That's how you do it.

yep, the judge's lawyer said give up the yearbook and let it get analyzed, Allred said, fk no. that's all I need.

 

[hunarcy]

She was WEARING the vest. You Hillarybot types want the truth to be what you imagine it to be, but the law is clear.

What does the law say constitutes a "grab"? He was pretending to grab in a distasteful picture.

I guess you'd agree that this guy has a handful of lawsuits on his hands, right?
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I never said he "grabbed". But, his hands were clearly touching the vest above her breasts, when she'd informed him that his touch was unwelcome. Assault and battery. Oh, and the fact that he waited until she was asleep implies he knew it was wrong. You can keep defending him, but it's pointless. The law is clear.

I guess the guy taking the picture should be arrested as an accomplice to battery as well right?

Perhaps he should. I'm given to understand that he was Franken's brother, right?

I dont' know who it was, but I do know you are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. Get real. Go to the hospital and take a look at real assault and battery and see what you are comparing a joke photo to.

I shared with you the legal definition. But, if you're so sure I am wrong, I invite you to show the courage of your convictions and walk up to the closest policeman and poke him/her on the chest with your forefinger. I'll wager you don't.

 

[Slade3200]

Its not a partisan issue at all. I've stated my disgust with Moore and with Bill Clinton. The Franken situation is quite different. I'm looking for an honest conversation about it. What about it am I distorting? You honestly think that pretending to grab the boobs of a sleeping woman wearing a kevlar vest, that he has been doing a sexually charged skit with him for weeks, constitutes assault? You can't be serious.

Of course I'm serious. You are distorting because you don't want to admit he committed a crime when he had that picture made. Your determined defense makes me wonder if a similar picture of you exists. But, long story short, the explanation is in this link ( What is "assault and battery"? - Rottenstein Law Group LLP ) that you seem to have ignored.

I'm not distorting anything. You can go by the letter of the law and try and make a case that the picture show assualt and battery. You will get laughed out of the room. Notice that not even the right wingers are accusing Franken of assault and battery. Wonder why? Because it is a ridiculous claim.

Her account of the back stage kiss is closer to sexual assault. You are better off taking that route for this debate.

I don't care what the right wingers do. I rarely agree with them, though they are usually more acceptable than you Clintonistas. And, by the way, it's the letter of the law that gets you convicted.

Cintonista? I didn't vote for Hillary. Another example that you don't know what you are talking about

Perhaps you didn't, but you certainly argue as emotionally and irrationally as they do. But, I do know what I'm talking about concerning Franken's behavior and the law.

Nothing wrong with stating a passionate argument, but the rationale is lost in your argument for this one. Can you really not understand that your claims are way over the top?

 

[jc456]

Of course I'm serious. You are distorting because you don't want to admit he committed a crime when he had that picture made. Your determined defense makes me wonder if a similar picture of you exists. But, long story short, the explanation is in this link ( What is "assault and battery"? - Rottenstein Law Group LLP ) that you seem to have ignored.

I'm not distorting anything. You can go by the letter of the law and try and make a case that the picture show assualt and battery. You will get laughed out of the room. Notice that not even the right wingers are accusing Franken of assault and battery. Wonder why? Because it is a ridiculous claim.

Her account of the back stage kiss is closer to sexual assault. You are better off taking that route for this debate.

I don't care what the right wingers do. I rarely agree with them, though they are usually more acceptable than you Clintonistas. And, by the way, it's the letter of the law that gets you convicted.

Cintonista? I didn't vote for Hillary. Another example that you don't know what you are talking about

Perhaps you didn't, but you certainly argue as emotionally and irrationally as they do. But, I do know what I'm talking about concerning Franken's behavior and the law.

Nothing wrong with stating a passionate argument, but the rationale is lost in your argument for this one. Can you really not understand that your claims are way over the top?

we know that yours are.

 

[Avatar4321]

A second woman was just on Hannity saying Franken stalked her. Didn't hear much of her account just the end

 

[Slade3200]

What does the law say constitutes a "grab"? He was pretending to grab in a distasteful picture.

I guess you'd agree that this guy has a handful of lawsuits on his hands, right?
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I never said he "grabbed". But, his hands were clearly touching the vest above her breasts, when she'd informed him that his touch was unwelcome. Assault and battery. Oh, and the fact that he waited until she was asleep implies he knew it was wrong. You can keep defending him, but it's pointless. The law is clear.

I guess the guy taking the picture should be arrested as an accomplice to battery as well right?

Perhaps he should. I'm given to understand that he was Franken's brother, right?

I dont' know who it was, but I do know you are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. Get real. Go to the hospital and take a look at real assault and battery and see what you are comparing a joke photo to.

I shared with you the legal definition. But, if you're so sure I am wrong, I invite you to show the courage of your convictions and walk up to the closest policeman and poke him/her on the chest with your forefinger. I'll wager you don't.

How did I respond to your legal definition? I'm not going to repeat myself so display that you are actually reading my replies. What did I say in regards to the written law?

 

[hunarcy]

Of course I'm serious. You are distorting because you don't want to admit he committed a crime when he had that picture made. Your determined defense makes me wonder if a similar picture of you exists. But, long story short, the explanation is in this link ( What is "assault and battery"? - Rottenstein Law Group LLP ) that you seem to have ignored.

I'm not distorting anything. You can go by the letter of the law and try and make a case that the picture show assualt and battery. You will get laughed out of the room. Notice that not even the right wingers are accusing Franken of assault and battery. Wonder why? Because it is a ridiculous claim.

Her account of the back stage kiss is closer to sexual assault. You are better off taking that route for this debate.

I don't care what the right wingers do. I rarely agree with them, though they are usually more acceptable than you Clintonistas. And, by the way, it's the letter of the law that gets you convicted.

Cintonista? I didn't vote for Hillary. Another example that you don't know what you are talking about

Perhaps you didn't, but you certainly argue as emotionally and irrationally as they do. But, I do know what I'm talking about concerning Franken's behavior and the law.

Nothing wrong with stating a passionate argument, but the rationale is lost in your argument for this one. Can you really not understand that your claims are way over the top?

They are not, I am arguing the facts. Again, if you're so sure I'm wrong, go up to the first female officer you see and poke her bulletproof vest above her breasts. If you don't, you know I'm right.

 

[jc456]

I never said he "grabbed". But, his hands were clearly touching the vest above her breasts, when she'd informed him that his touch was unwelcome. Assault and battery. Oh, and the fact that he waited until she was asleep implies he knew it was wrong. You can keep defending him, but it's pointless. The law is clear.

I guess the guy taking the picture should be arrested as an accomplice to battery as well right?

Perhaps he should. I'm given to understand that he was Franken's brother, right?

I dont' know who it was, but I do know you are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. Get real. Go to the hospital and take a look at real assault and battery and see what you are comparing a joke photo to.

I shared with you the legal definition. But, if you're so sure I am wrong, I invite you to show the courage of your convictions and walk up to the closest policeman and poke him/her on the chest with your forefinger. I'll wager you don't.

How did I respond to your legal definition? I'm not going to repeat myself so display that you are actually reading my replies. What did I say in regards to the written law?

you don't have to, just highlight it from the quoted posts you tagged to your post.

 

[Slade3200]

What does the law say constitutes a "grab"? He was pretending to grab in a distasteful picture.

I guess you'd agree that this guy has a handful of lawsuits on his hands, right?
View attachment 160840

I never said he "grabbed". But, his hands were clearly touching the vest above her breasts, when she'd informed him that his touch was unwelcome. Assault and battery. Oh, and the fact that he waited until she was asleep implies he knew it was wrong. You can keep defending him, but it's pointless. The law is clear.

I guess the guy taking the picture should be arrested as an accomplice to battery as well right?

Perhaps he should. I'm given to understand that he was Franken's brother, right?

I dont' know who it was, but I do know you are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. Get real. Go to the hospital and take a look at real assault and battery and see what you are comparing a joke photo to.

I shared with you the legal definition. But, if you're so sure I am wrong, I invite you to show the courage of your convictions and walk up to the closest policeman and poke him/her on the chest with your forefinger. I'll wager you don't.

How about I do a more realistic test. I'll take a picture pretending to grab my friends boobs and show it to a cop and ask if I can be arrested for assault and battery from whats happening in this photo. What do you think they will say?

 

[jc456]

A second woman was just on Hannity saying Franken stalked her. Didn't hear much of her account just the end

I don't believe her. I believe no woman that comes out second, third, fourth etc....... where were they at? I call bullshit on any other woman.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

EXACTLY. As of right now, Moore is guilty of nothing.

Well technically Bill Clinton is guilty of nothing but cheating on his wife. Is that also what you believe?

Wrong again.

Criminal contempt and perjury.

Ok, but not sexual assault right? All those women were making it up?

Who would prosecute him? Democrats? Right!

Are you dodging the question? Do you think Bill Clinton is guilty of sexual assault on multiple women or not?

Yes. Yes, I do. His payment to Paula Jones to settle her civil suit was sufficient for me to make that determination

 

[hunarcy]

I never said he "grabbed". But, his hands were clearly touching the vest above her breasts, when she'd informed him that his touch was unwelcome. Assault and battery. Oh, and the fact that he waited until she was asleep implies he knew it was wrong. You can keep defending him, but it's pointless. The law is clear.

I guess the guy taking the picture should be arrested as an accomplice to battery as well right?

Perhaps he should. I'm given to understand that he was Franken's brother, right?

I dont' know who it was, but I do know you are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. Get real. Go to the hospital and take a look at real assault and battery and see what you are comparing a joke photo to.

I shared with you the legal definition. But, if you're so sure I am wrong, I invite you to show the courage of your convictions and walk up to the closest policeman and poke him/her on the chest with your forefinger. I'll wager you don't.

How did I respond to your legal definition? I'm not going to repeat myself so display that you are actually reading my replies. What did I say in regards to the written law?

You said I am making a mountain out of a mole hill. I gave you the opportunity to show the courage of your convictions. You obviously will not do it, showing you know I'm right. I'm done here. You are defeated and though you will spend the next few posts denying it, there's no point in wasting time on your denials. Franken committed an assault and battery and there is no way to deny it.

 

[hunarcy]

I never said he "grabbed". But, his hands were clearly touching the vest above her breasts, when she'd informed him that his touch was unwelcome. Assault and battery. Oh, and the fact that he waited until she was asleep implies he knew it was wrong. You can keep defending him, but it's pointless. The law is clear.

I guess the guy taking the picture should be arrested as an accomplice to battery as well right?

Perhaps he should. I'm given to understand that he was Franken's brother, right?

I dont' know who it was, but I do know you are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. Get real. Go to the hospital and take a look at real assault and battery and see what you are comparing a joke photo to.

I shared with you the legal definition. But, if you're so sure I am wrong, I invite you to show the courage of your convictions and walk up to the closest policeman and poke him/her on the chest with your forefinger. I'll wager you don't.

How about I do a more realistic test. I'll take a picture pretending to grab my friends boobs and show it to a cop and ask if I can be arrested for assault and battery from whats happening in this photo. What do you think they will say?

LOL! Coward.

 

[bripat9643]

Go back and read again. I never said it was sexual assault. I said it was simple assault and as he touched the vest she was wearing, it was battery as well.

What is "assault and battery"? - Rottenstein Law Group LLP

You are joking right?

Of course not. She made it clear that his touch was unwanted and he touched the vest over her breasts...assault and battery.

wow, and yall call the left Snowflakes huh?

I don't, but I do call you a clueless partisan who is inconsistent in his outrage and not a true Progressive.

Its not a partisan issue at all. I've stated my disgust with Moore and with Bill Clinton. The Franken situation is quite different. I'm looking for an honest conversation about it. What about it am I distorting? You honestly think that pretending to grab the boobs of a sleeping woman wearing a kevlar vest, that he has been doing a sexually charged skit with him for weeks, constitutes assault? You can't be serious.

He didn't pretend to grab them. He actually put his hands on them. Anyone who thinks that isn't sexual assault can only be a democrat.

 

[jc456]

You are joking right?

Of course not. She made it clear that his touch was unwanted and he touched the vest over her breasts...assault and battery.

wow, and yall call the left Snowflakes huh?

I don't, but I do call you a clueless partisan who is inconsistent in his outrage and not a true Progressive.

Its not a partisan issue at all. I've stated my disgust with Moore and with Bill Clinton. The Franken situation is quite different. I'm looking for an honest conversation about it. What about it am I distorting? You honestly think that pretending to grab the boobs of a sleeping woman wearing a kevlar vest, that he has been doing a sexually charged skit with him for weeks, constitutes assault? You can't be serious.

He didn't pretend to grab them. He actually paid his hands on them. Anyone who thinks that isn't sexual assault can only be a democrat.

dude, you can see the squeeze he gave the boobs. funny. In front of a fking camera. Not too bright a guy.

 

[bripat9643]

Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It

even has a picture in there grabbing the breasts of the woman on the USO tour while she was sleeping.

he needs to resign and step down.

Why is this whole thing starting to remind me more and more of the Salem Witch Trials?

The difference of course is that in many of these situations there is a valid complaint to be made, but the tone of the situation seems to be devolving into hysteria.

The situation with Bill Cosby started the wheels turning. Then all the firings at Fox Noise. Then the Weinstein thing got it off and running, which probably prompted women in Alabama to say...#MeToo, and so Roy Moore gets rightfully swept up in it just like Al Franken has now. So yo can see, it's something that has unfolded over the last few years. No hysteria here. Just an awakening. And one long overdue.

Nah, what prompted alabama was pure political gamesmanship. The problem with releasing a lion into the lion pit is that it usually can't tell the Christians from the guards.

Wrong again. Did you actually read the original WaPo article? Of course you didn't.
Accuser No. 5: Beverly Nelson is a registered Republican who voted for Trump.
And I guess you were unaware of this, too:

(The accuser here is on video)

Roy Moore accuser: I got him banned from the mall
Roy Moore accuser: I got him banned from the mall

• By CHRIS FRANCESCANI
  

Nov 16, 2017, 12:16 P.M.

An Alabama woman who has accused Republican U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore of sexually harassing her in the late 1970s said he was banned from the mall where she worked after she complained about his repeated, unwanted advances toward her.

“I went to my manager and talked to him about it and asked him, basically, what could be done,” Becky Gray told ABC News late Wednesday night. “Later on, he…came back through my department and told me that [Moore] had been banned from the mall.”

Gray said she has grown increasingly frustrated with critics who continue to question the veracity of numerous women’s claims of being sexually harassed four decades ago by the embattled former Alabama chief justice.

“It also upsets me where I read where a person says, 'Well, why didn't they come forward 40 years ago?'" Gray said."""

She went on, “These women have no reason to lie about their sexual encounters… so I just don't understand people that don't believe that it's true. There's a lot of shame to this, and for those women who did have sexual encounters with Moore, I commend them for coming out - I really do. It's about time.”

Moore has emphatically denied ever sexually harassing women, and is not currently facing any criminal charges. He has not addressed Gray's allegations.

In an interview with MSNBC on Wednesday, Moore’s lawyer said because of unrelated litigation, he is familiar with the complaint procedures at the mall. “From what I have been told, [there] has never been a list with Roy Moore banned from being at the mall,” he added.

Moore and his attorney have challenged claims by another accuser, Beverly Young Nelson, that he sexually harassed her when she was 16 years old. The upcoming Dec. 12 special election to replace former Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions, who was appointed attorney general by President Donald Trump, is key to Senate Republicans. If Moore's Democratic challenger Doug Jones wins the election, it would narrow Republicans' majority from 52-48 to 51-49, and threaten to derail the GOP's legislative agenda. Senate Republicans have repeatedly called in recent days for Moore to withdraw his candidacy - a request he has vehemently rejected.

The only problem with your claim: there's no evidence he was banned. The guy who managed the mall says he wasn't banned.

 

[MACAULAY]

Not to be a dog....however....

What MAN in his right mind would not crave to squeeze these ???
(well...I'm sure there are some ladies out there as well who would like to)

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Doubtless....."Irresistible Impulse"....a sort of temporary insanity....is his best defense, in the case of this tempting morsel.

But, if he goes with that, it will piss off Ugly Women....and almost all Ugly Women are Democrats.

I'd say he's toast.

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