Next up on the Sexual Misconduct Parade - Al Franken!

[paperview]

Are you dodging the question? Do you think Bill Clinton is guilty of sexual assault on multiple women or not?

Yes. Yes, I do. His payment to Paula Jones to settle her civil suit was sufficient for me to make that determination

Then you agree Trump is guilty of wholesale fraud.

What does Trump have to do with this?

Have you been diagnosed with TDS? If so, there is no need to discuss anything further with you.

If you can't figure out how settling a lawsuit without admission of guilt or any apology applies, then there is no helping you.

Maybe Louis Gohmert can make up a connect the dots chart for you.

He was guilty. It was well documented. I am sorry your liberal blinders prevent you from seeing that. The issue was whether or not she suffered a loss because of it. Clinton knew he was going to lose the appeal. EOS,

I will agree. Trump is guilty of fraud.

A court case determined that.

Jones case was thrown out of court as being "without merit."

 

[paperview]

I see that the top republican did not wanted to respond on the Al Franken matter. And everyone else just want an investigation on it before responding about it. But they all prejudged Senator Moore, and want him to step down before any investigation is done.

Al Franken IMMEDIATELY owned it, in case you've already forgotten, and has issued a statement.
Roy Moore keeps denying as more women (9 now) come forward.

He "owned' it with a 'ha, ha I thought is was a joke ha ha" non-apology apology.

No he didn't, douchette. Where did you get that? Breitbart? Don't you ever check your shit before you post it?

Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., released the statement below following allegations he groped and forcibly kissed a radio host against her will:

“The first thing I want to do is apologize: to Leeann, to everyone else who was part of that tour, to everyone who has worked for me, to everyone I represent, and to everyone who counts on me to be an ally and supporter and champion of women. There's more I want to say, but the first and most important thing—and if it's the only thing you care to hear, that's fine—is: I'm sorry.

“I respect women. I don't respect men who don't. And the fact that my own actions have given people a good reason to doubt that makes me feel ashamed.

“But I want to say something else, too. Over the last few months, all of us—including and especially men who respect women—have been forced to take a good, hard look at our own actions and think (perhaps, shamefully, for the first time) about how those actions have affected women.

“For instance, that picture. I don't know what was in my head when I took that picture, and it doesn't matter. There's no excuse. I look at it now and I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate. It's obvious how Leeann would feel violated by that picture. And, what's more, I can see how millions of other women would feel violated by it—women who have had similar experiences in their own lives, women who fear having those experiences, women who look up to me, women who have counted on me.

“Coming from the world of comedy, I've told and written a lot of jokes that I once thought were funny but later came to realize were just plain offensive. But the intentions behind my actions aren't the point at all. It's the impact these jokes had on others that matters. And I'm sorry it's taken me so long to come to terms with that.

“While I don't remember the rehearsal for the skit as Leeann does, I understand why we need to listen to and believe women’s experiences.

“I am asking that an ethics investigation be undertaken, and I will gladly cooperate.

“And the truth is, what people think of me in light of this is far less important than what people think of women who continue to come forward to tell their stories. They deserve to be heard, and believed. And they deserve to know that I am their ally and supporter. I have let them down and am committed to making it up to them.”

Sen. Al Franken's complete statement on groping allegations

Franken is a pedophile

Rustic is drunk again.

 

[Rustic]

I see that the top republican did not wanted to respond on the Al Franken matter. And everyone else just want an investigation on it before responding about it. But they all prejudged Senator Moore, and want him to step down before any investigation is done.

Al Franken IMMEDIATELY owned it, in case you've already forgotten, and has issued a statement.
Roy Moore keeps denying as more women (9 now) come forward.

He "owned' it with a 'ha, ha I thought is was a joke ha ha" non-apology apology.

No he didn't, douchette. Where did you get that? Breitbart? Don't you ever check your shit before you post it?

Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., released the statement below following allegations he groped and forcibly kissed a radio host against her will:

“The first thing I want to do is apologize: to Leeann, to everyone else who was part of that tour, to everyone who has worked for me, to everyone I represent, and to everyone who counts on me to be an ally and supporter and champion of women. There's more I want to say, but the first and most important thing—and if it's the only thing you care to hear, that's fine—is: I'm sorry.

“I respect women. I don't respect men who don't. And the fact that my own actions have given people a good reason to doubt that makes me feel ashamed.

“But I want to say something else, too. Over the last few months, all of us—including and especially men who respect women—have been forced to take a good, hard look at our own actions and think (perhaps, shamefully, for the first time) about how those actions have affected women.

“For instance, that picture. I don't know what was in my head when I took that picture, and it doesn't matter. There's no excuse. I look at it now and I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate. It's obvious how Leeann would feel violated by that picture. And, what's more, I can see how millions of other women would feel violated by it—women who have had similar experiences in their own lives, women who fear having those experiences, women who look up to me, women who have counted on me.

“Coming from the world of comedy, I've told and written a lot of jokes that I once thought were funny but later came to realize were just plain offensive. But the intentions behind my actions aren't the point at all. It's the impact these jokes had on others that matters. And I'm sorry it's taken me so long to come to terms with that.

“While I don't remember the rehearsal for the skit as Leeann does, I understand why we need to listen to and believe women’s experiences.

“I am asking that an ethics investigation be undertaken, and I will gladly cooperate.

“And the truth is, what people think of me in light of this is far less important than what people think of women who continue to come forward to tell their stories. They deserve to be heard, and believed. And they deserve to know that I am their ally and supporter. I have let them down and am committed to making it up to them.”

Sen. Al Franken's complete statement on groping allegations

Franken is a pedophile

Rustic is drunk again.

Lol
You’re thinking of the Washington Redskin, I don’t drink.

 

[eddiew37]

I see that the top republican did not wanted to respond on the Al Franken matter. And everyone else just want an investigation on it before responding about it. But they all prejudged Senator Moore, and want him to step down before any investigation is done.

Al Franken IMMEDIATELY owned it, in case you've already forgotten, and has issued a statement.
Roy Moore keeps denying as more women (9 now) come forward.

He "owned' it with a 'ha, ha I thought is was a joke ha ha" non-apology apology.

No he didn't, douchette. Where did you get that? Breitbart? Don't you ever check your shit before you post it?

Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., released the statement below following allegations he groped and forcibly kissed a radio host against her will:

“The first thing I want to do is apologize: to Leeann, to everyone else who was part of that tour, to everyone who has worked for me, to everyone I represent, and to everyone who counts on me to be an ally and supporter and champion of women. There's more I want to say, but the first and most important thing—and if it's the only thing you care to hear, that's fine—is: I'm sorry.

“I respect women. I don't respect men who don't. And the fact that my own actions have given people a good reason to doubt that makes me feel ashamed.

“But I want to say something else, too. Over the last few months, all of us—including and especially men who respect women—have been forced to take a good, hard look at our own actions and think (perhaps, shamefully, for the first time) about how those actions have affected women.

“For instance, that picture. I don't know what was in my head when I took that picture, and it doesn't matter. There's no excuse. I look at it now and I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate. It's obvious how Leeann would feel violated by that picture. And, what's more, I can see how millions of other women would feel violated by it—women who have had similar experiences in their own lives, women who fear having those experiences, women who look up to me, women who have counted on me.

“Coming from the world of comedy, I've told and written a lot of jokes that I once thought were funny but later came to realize were just plain offensive. But the intentions behind my actions aren't the point at all. It's the impact these jokes had on others that matters. And I'm sorry it's taken me so long to come to terms with that.

“While I don't remember the rehearsal for the skit as Leeann does, I understand why we need to listen to and believe women’s experiences.

“I am asking that an ethics investigation be undertaken, and I will gladly cooperate.

“And the truth is, what people think of me in light of this is far less important than what people think of women who continue to come forward to tell their stories. They deserve to be heard, and believed. And they deserve to know that I am their ally and supporter. I have let them down and am committed to making it up to them.”

Sen. Al Franken's complete statement on groping allegations

Franken is a pedophile

Trump a predator a sex pervert

 

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Al Franken IMMEDIATELY owned it, in case you've already forgotten, and has issued a statement.
Roy Moore keeps denying as more women (9 now) come forward.

He "owned' it with a 'ha, ha I thought is was a joke ha ha" non-apology apology.

No he didn't, douchette. Where did you get that? Breitbart? Don't you ever check your shit before you post it?

Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., released the statement below following allegations he groped and forcibly kissed a radio host against her will:

“The first thing I want to do is apologize: to Leeann, to everyone else who was part of that tour, to everyone who has worked for me, to everyone I represent, and to everyone who counts on me to be an ally and supporter and champion of women. There's more I want to say, but the first and most important thing—and if it's the only thing you care to hear, that's fine—is: I'm sorry.

“I respect women. I don't respect men who don't. And the fact that my own actions have given people a good reason to doubt that makes me feel ashamed.

“But I want to say something else, too. Over the last few months, all of us—including and especially men who respect women—have been forced to take a good, hard look at our own actions and think (perhaps, shamefully, for the first time) about how those actions have affected women.

“For instance, that picture. I don't know what was in my head when I took that picture, and it doesn't matter. There's no excuse. I look at it now and I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate. It's obvious how Leeann would feel violated by that picture. And, what's more, I can see how millions of other women would feel violated by it—women who have had similar experiences in their own lives, women who fear having those experiences, women who look up to me, women who have counted on me.

“Coming from the world of comedy, I've told and written a lot of jokes that I once thought were funny but later came to realize were just plain offensive. But the intentions behind my actions aren't the point at all. It's the impact these jokes had on others that matters. And I'm sorry it's taken me so long to come to terms with that.

“While I don't remember the rehearsal for the skit as Leeann does, I understand why we need to listen to and believe women’s experiences.

“I am asking that an ethics investigation be undertaken, and I will gladly cooperate.

“And the truth is, what people think of me in light of this is far less important than what people think of women who continue to come forward to tell their stories. They deserve to be heard, and believed. And they deserve to know that I am their ally and supporter. I have let them down and am committed to making it up to them.”

Sen. Al Franken's complete statement on groping allegations

Franken is a pedophile

Rustic is drunk again.

Lol
You’re thinking of the Washington Redskin, I don’t drink.

Then you're drugged. You called Franken a pedophile.
You're a sick fuck.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes. Yes, I do. His payment to Paula Jones to settle her civil suit was sufficient for me to make that determination

Then you agree Trump is guilty of wholesale fraud.

What does Trump have to do with this?

Have you been diagnosed with TDS? If so, there is no need to discuss anything further with you.

If you can't figure out how settling a lawsuit without admission of guilt or any apology applies, then there is no helping you.

Maybe Louis Gohmert can make up a connect the dots chart for you.

He was guilty. It was well documented. I am sorry your liberal blinders prevent you from seeing that. The issue was whether or not she suffered a loss because of it. Clinton knew he was going to lose the appeal. EOS,

I will agree. Trump is guilty of fraud.

A court case determined that.

Jones case was thrown out of court as being "without merit."

The case was being appealed. If Clinton would have won, why did he pay?

In Trump's case, it was a small group that sued, despite there being many satisfied customers. Trump cut his losses.

How many of Clinton's other victims were satisfied?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/

even has a picture in there grabbing the breasts of the woman on the USO tour while she was sleeping.

he needs to resign and step down.

Okay. I have no problem putting Franken through the media meat grinder for these allegations. OMG! He's... a DEMOCRAT congressman! Yeah, same shit, different label. What point are you trying to make here?

 

[bripat9643]

I don't, but I do call you a clueless partisan who is inconsistent in his outrage and not a true Progressive.

Its not a partisan issue at all. I've stated my disgust with Moore and with Bill Clinton. The Franken situation is quite different. I'm looking for an honest conversation about it. What about it am I distorting? You honestly think that pretending to grab the boobs of a sleeping woman wearing a kevlar vest, that he has been doing a sexually charged skit with him for weeks, constitutes assault? You can't be serious.

He didn't pretend to grab them. He actually paid his hands on them. Anyone who thinks that isn't sexual assault can only be a democrat.

Oh, look who crossed over into snowflakeville! Welcome, how does it feel?

How am I in "snowflake land?" Do you imagine that right wingers don't believe sexual assault is a real thing?

No I but I believed you had a thicker skin than to say that a guy posing for a joke photo was committing sexual assault. Inappropriate yes, a crime?? I don't think so

And you aren't kidding anybody if this was a republican in the photo and the left was crying assault you'd be screaming Snowflakes from the top of a mountain. You know you would

It is a crime. Simply touching someone without their permission when it's unwanted is assault. Touching someone's breasts or genitals is sexual assault.

I don't defend Moore because I believe the accusations against him are about trivial offenses. I defend him because I believe his accusers are lying.

 

[Rustic]

He "owned' it with a 'ha, ha I thought is was a joke ha ha" non-apology apology.

No he didn't, douchette. Where did you get that? Breitbart? Don't you ever check your shit before you post it?

Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., released the statement below following allegations he groped and forcibly kissed a radio host against her will:

“The first thing I want to do is apologize: to Leeann, to everyone else who was part of that tour, to everyone who has worked for me, to everyone I represent, and to everyone who counts on me to be an ally and supporter and champion of women. There's more I want to say, but the first and most important thing—and if it's the only thing you care to hear, that's fine—is: I'm sorry.

“I respect women. I don't respect men who don't. And the fact that my own actions have given people a good reason to doubt that makes me feel ashamed.

“But I want to say something else, too. Over the last few months, all of us—including and especially men who respect women—have been forced to take a good, hard look at our own actions and think (perhaps, shamefully, for the first time) about how those actions have affected women.

“For instance, that picture. I don't know what was in my head when I took that picture, and it doesn't matter. There's no excuse. I look at it now and I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate. It's obvious how Leeann would feel violated by that picture. And, what's more, I can see how millions of other women would feel violated by it—women who have had similar experiences in their own lives, women who fear having those experiences, women who look up to me, women who have counted on me.

“Coming from the world of comedy, I've told and written a lot of jokes that I once thought were funny but later came to realize were just plain offensive. But the intentions behind my actions aren't the point at all. It's the impact these jokes had on others that matters. And I'm sorry it's taken me so long to come to terms with that.

“While I don't remember the rehearsal for the skit as Leeann does, I understand why we need to listen to and believe women’s experiences.

“I am asking that an ethics investigation be undertaken, and I will gladly cooperate.

“And the truth is, what people think of me in light of this is far less important than what people think of women who continue to come forward to tell their stories. They deserve to be heard, and believed. And they deserve to know that I am their ally and supporter. I have let them down and am committed to making it up to them.”

Sen. Al Franken's complete statement on groping allegations

Franken is a pedophile

Rustic is drunk again.

Lol
You’re thinking of the Washington Redskin, I don’t drink.

Then you're drugged. You called Franken a pedophile.
You're a sick fuck.

Franken is, Shit stain all the way. I see you’re a fan, LOL

 

[paperview]

Then you agree Trump is guilty of wholesale fraud.

What does Trump have to do with this?

Have you been diagnosed with TDS? If so, there is no need to discuss anything further with you.

If you can't figure out how settling a lawsuit without admission of guilt or any apology applies, then there is no helping you.

Maybe Louis Gohmert can make up a connect the dots chart for you.

He was guilty. It was well documented. I am sorry your liberal blinders prevent you from seeing that. The issue was whether or not she suffered a loss because of it. Clinton knew he was going to lose the appeal. EOS,

I will agree. Trump is guilty of fraud.

A court case determined that.

Jones case was thrown out of court as being "without merit."

The case was being appealed. If Clinton would have won, why did he pay?

In Trump's case, it was a small group that sued, despite there being many satisfied customers. Trump cut his losses.

How many of Clinton's other victims were satisfied?

See what I mean?

Clinton -- who was the defendant in a civil case where it was deemed WITHOUT MERIT and thrown out -- and at that point the country had been through enough -- gave her some "get out of my hair money" --

But Trump, who actually had the case adjudicated against him "cut his losses" and settled for tens of millions.

lol

And that person even Ann Coulter called trailer trash after the trial - spread her legs for all to see her fleshy bits on the pages of Penthouse about 10 minutes after the settlement.

So much for defending her "honor."

 

[eddiew37]

A real POS is trump and the billion saved from this tax plan

 

[paperview]

No he didn't, douchette. Where did you get that? Breitbart? Don't you ever check your shit before you post it?

Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., released the statement below following allegations he groped and forcibly kissed a radio host against her will:

“The first thing I want to do is apologize: to Leeann, to everyone else who was part of that tour, to everyone who has worked for me, to everyone I represent, and to everyone who counts on me to be an ally and supporter and champion of women. There's more I want to say, but the first and most important thing—and if it's the only thing you care to hear, that's fine—is: I'm sorry.

“I respect women. I don't respect men who don't. And the fact that my own actions have given people a good reason to doubt that makes me feel ashamed.

“But I want to say something else, too. Over the last few months, all of us—including and especially men who respect women—have been forced to take a good, hard look at our own actions and think (perhaps, shamefully, for the first time) about how those actions have affected women.

“For instance, that picture. I don't know what was in my head when I took that picture, and it doesn't matter. There's no excuse. I look at it now and I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate. It's obvious how Leeann would feel violated by that picture. And, what's more, I can see how millions of other women would feel violated by it—women who have had similar experiences in their own lives, women who fear having those experiences, women who look up to me, women who have counted on me.

“Coming from the world of comedy, I've told and written a lot of jokes that I once thought were funny but later came to realize were just plain offensive. But the intentions behind my actions aren't the point at all. It's the impact these jokes had on others that matters. And I'm sorry it's taken me so long to come to terms with that.

“While I don't remember the rehearsal for the skit as Leeann does, I understand why we need to listen to and believe women’s experiences.

“I am asking that an ethics investigation be undertaken, and I will gladly cooperate.

“And the truth is, what people think of me in light of this is far less important than what people think of women who continue to come forward to tell their stories. They deserve to be heard, and believed. And they deserve to know that I am their ally and supporter. I have let them down and am committed to making it up to them.”

Sen. Al Franken's complete statement on groping allegations

Franken is a pedophile

Rustic is drunk again.

Lol
You’re thinking of the Washington Redskin, I don’t drink.

Then you're drugged. You called Franken a pedophile.
You're a sick fuck.

Franken is, Shit stain all the way. I see you’re a fan, LOL

Again. You must be drugged.

Even Franken's most hard core opponents are not calling him a pedophile.

Why don't you call him a murderer? You have just as much evidence to stand on.

 

[Darkwind]

Interesting. There appears to be credible proof of Franken's obscene behavior.

That puts this as more credible than the Moore accusations, which have yet to provide any credible proof.

However, Franken has the same standard from Me as Moore does. He is innocent until proven guilty and this is simply an accusation at this point. Granted, a much more credible accusation.

I have noted the excuses being made by the rabid, mouth foaming, knuckle-dragging progressives who are attempting to make this less than it was. They must think it is okay for Democrats to harass and molest women, regardless of their wakefulness.

Franken made a move on an adult women and posed for an inappropriate photo. He owned his actions, apologized, and called for an ethics investigation. His apology was accepted by the accuser and she stated that she didn't want him to step down.

Are you really trying to equate that to Moores situation. We have how many? 8 accusers now, mostly young girls claiming much more aggressive sexual assault?

There are eight accusers and still no proof. Not even credible accusations at that.

So, Franken made a move on a sleeping woman. I guess if the woman is of age, regardless of wakefulness, its okay. But I'll tell you what.

Lets demand an apology from Moore and drop the whole thing.

You don't think a first hand account is proof? Especially ones that are backed up by dozens of sources saying that the victims told them about the events years ago?

First-hand accounts of what happened in private? Okay. Someone is lying to you people.

I am, however; laughing My ass off at the contortions going on.

Look, until I see proof, solid evidence....oh, like a photograph maybe.....I'm not going to believe these accusers. You're just going to have to allow yourself to abandon the entire principle of innocent until proven guilty. I sure wouldn't want to live in a world in which the power of accusation is all it takes to ruin a persons life.

Enjoy your night. I have to much to do to waste any more time on this.

Many situations come down to a "he said / she said" just because there isn't a photo or video to verify proof doesn't mean it is not possible to find the truth or have enough to make an educated guess. You have to listen to the accusers and the defense of the accused. You have to weigh the validity of each persons version of the stories. You seem to be skipping all of that and saying that since there is not hard evidence you are going to assume his innocence. Do you also assume Bill Clintons innocence when it comes to assaulting women?

No, what I am saying is that if you wait 38 years to bring unsubstantiated accusations without proof at a time when such accusations can do the maximum damage to a person and benefit a group of people, then the credibility of all such people is suspect and requires hard evidence.

It really is NOT a stretch to say this is politically motivated.

 

[Slade3200]

Its not a partisan issue at all. I've stated my disgust with Moore and with Bill Clinton. The Franken situation is quite different. I'm looking for an honest conversation about it. What about it am I distorting? You honestly think that pretending to grab the boobs of a sleeping woman wearing a kevlar vest, that he has been doing a sexually charged skit with him for weeks, constitutes assault? You can't be serious.

He didn't pretend to grab them. He actually paid his hands on them. Anyone who thinks that isn't sexual assault can only be a democrat.

Oh, look who crossed over into snowflakeville! Welcome, how does it feel?

How am I in "snowflake land?" Do you imagine that right wingers don't believe sexual assault is a real thing?

No I but I believed you had a thicker skin than to say that a guy posing for a joke photo was committing sexual assault. Inappropriate yes, a crime?? I don't think so

And you aren't kidding anybody if this was a republican in the photo and the left was crying assault you'd be screaming Snowflakes from the top of a mountain. You know you would

It is a crime. Simply touching someone without their permission when it's unwanted is assault. Touching someone's breasts or genitals is sexual assault.

I don't defend Moore because I believe the accusations against him are about trivial offenses. I defend him because I believe his accusers are lying.

So you think the Left orchestrated over 40 people between the accusers and the sources that verified they were told about the allegations years ago, to come after Moore? Do you see how wild of an accusation that is, how unrealistic that is and how near impossible that is to pull off? I only say near because I never say anything is totally impossible.

 

[bripat9643]

Leeann Tweeden says she wanted to make the world a better place for her children, by coming out and talking about what Creepy Al Franken did to her.

Was this before or after the kids saw her Sporting NFL male teaser
Playboy nudes FULLY SPREADING these better world Family values!?

btw. She can do so, but really some should not. Looky don't touch.
FFS! NO sexual Gestures?

Are these the same?

btw:
Indiana Dems rip GOP for not refusing Trump campaign money while calling for Dems to return Franken money Indiana Dems: GOP has double standard on donations from alleged assaulters

So your defense of Franken is that she's a slut who deserved it?

Really?

 

[basquebromance]

Well what do you know, Creepy Al Franken has quite a surprising group of friends...

 

[basquebromance]

"Franken mistreats his staff, screams at them, takes credit for other people's work" - Tucker

 

[Slade3200]

Franken made a move on an adult women and posed for an inappropriate photo. He owned his actions, apologized, and called for an ethics investigation. His apology was accepted by the accuser and she stated that she didn't want him to step down.

Are you really trying to equate that to Moores situation. We have how many? 8 accusers now, mostly young girls claiming much more aggressive sexual assault?

There are eight accusers and still no proof. Not even credible accusations at that.

So, Franken made a move on a sleeping woman. I guess if the woman is of age, regardless of wakefulness, its okay. But I'll tell you what.

Lets demand an apology from Moore and drop the whole thing.

You don't think a first hand account is proof? Especially ones that are backed up by dozens of sources saying that the victims told them about the events years ago?

First-hand accounts of what happened in private? Okay. Someone is lying to you people.

I am, however; laughing My ass off at the contortions going on.

Look, until I see proof, solid evidence....oh, like a photograph maybe.....I'm not going to believe these accusers. You're just going to have to allow yourself to abandon the entire principle of innocent until proven guilty. I sure wouldn't want to live in a world in which the power of accusation is all it takes to ruin a persons life.

Enjoy your night. I have to much to do to waste any more time on this.

Many situations come down to a "he said / she said" just because there isn't a photo or video to verify proof doesn't mean it is not possible to find the truth or have enough to make an educated guess. You have to listen to the accusers and the defense of the accused. You have to weigh the validity of each persons version of the stories. You seem to be skipping all of that and saying that since there is not hard evidence you are going to assume his innocence. Do you also assume Bill Clintons innocence when it comes to assaulting women?

No, what I am saying is that if you wait 38 years to bring unsubstantiated accusations without proof at a time when such accusations can do the maximum damage to a person and benefit a group of people, then the credibility of all such people is suspect and requires hard evidence.

It really is NOT a stretch to say this is politically motivated.

Of course it was politically motivated. I'm not denying that. Not so much from the accusers. They had real stories and real experiences and I believe many of them are Republican. I imagine it is far from political for them. But sure Moores opponents and the news organizations were totally politicizing this... That doesn't mean the allegations are false. There is a reason why people like Hannity and Tucker and many conservatives are on the opposite side as you on this. Its pretty obvious that Moore is a scumbag

 

[bripat9643]

even has a picture in there grabbing the breasts of the woman on the USO tour while she was sleeping.

he needs to resign and step down.

Um, yeah, except she's wearing Kevlar and he's not making contact...

So the argument here is that she didn't like a skit they performed in? Seriously?

I'm underwealmed.

So, unless she has her shirt and bra off, it's not sexual assault?

Watching all you douchebags twisting yourselves into knots to defend Franken is hilarious.

 

[basquebromance]

"when a man calls himself a feminist, you can start the clock on the rape charges" - Milo