No One Has a Right to Health Care

[rightwinger]

Are you forced to belong to our society?
You can leave any time you wish

However, I predict the society you join will do even more for healthcare

Ahh.. yes.. Obey or leave. The essence of the authoritarian mindset.

The issue is "forced"
Nobody is "forced" to be an American

But if you accept being an American, you accept the decisions of We the People

Is that so? So what if we the people decided to bring back slavery again? Well.......are you an American or not?

Interesting perspective

Are you in any way equating saving people's lives to slavery?

No, merely pointing out that just because the people want something doesn't mean that government is obliged to give us that something.

Maybe down the road, most people will want the government to give them an in-ground swimming pool. Is that the role of government because we the people want it? Maybe we will get so sick of supporting prisoners because they were selling illegal recreational narcotics, so we the people decide such activity should be penalized by death. Or maybe our death penalty is too easy and not enough satisfaction for the family of the victim, so we put people to death by tying them up and beating them with a bat.

You keep digging deeper and deeper

Now it is wanting a swimming pool is the equivalent of wanting to live

 

[rightwinger]

In the declaration of independence, it says we have certain God-given, unalienable, rights.

Do you reject that premise?

If not, tell us what those rights are.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness--not the funding of happiness.

Do you deny that healthcare is the essence of life?

Why should everyone else pay for it?

Would you want the help if you needed it. And..why not? Seems like a better investment than going to Mideast countries and blowing up extremists just cause we can,

funny thing, years ago I broke my back, I didnt have insurance at the time. I ended up getting surgeries and then, paying it off in installments. What a shocker. Did you know hospitals will do this?

Don't you wish you had insurance available?

 

[Rustic]

Everyone has a right to earn their healthcare, meaning like with everything else there is no free lunch.

So why did Wall Street get a free lunch with zero interest rates?
Oh by the way, that is why they are now throwing up all over themselves. Jeeez, they have to now pay .25 %

So if someone does not earn the $100,000 it costs for ten days in a hospital, they deserve to die?

write your check and save them.

So it appears that Patriots support allowing poor people to die

Some Patriot

Socialists are the most irresponsible of people...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Ahh.. yes.. Obey or leave. The essence of the authoritarian mindset.

The issue is "forced"
Nobody is "forced" to be an American

But if you accept being an American, you accept the decisions of We the People

Is that so? So what if we the people decided to bring back slavery again? Well.......are you an American or not?

Interesting perspective

Are you in any way equating saving people's lives to slavery?

No, merely pointing out that just because the people want something doesn't mean that government is obliged to give us that something.

Maybe down the road, most people will want the government to give them an in-ground swimming pool. Is that the role of government because we the people want it? Maybe we will get so sick of supporting prisoners because they were selling illegal recreational narcotics, so we the people decide such activity should be penalized by death. Or maybe our death penalty is too easy and not enough satisfaction for the family of the victim, so we put people to death by tying them up and beating them with a bat.

You keep digging deeper and deeper

Now it is wanting a swimming pool is the equivalent of wanting to live

Sure. They both require what the people want, don't they?

You're the one that said if you accept being an American, you must accept all the decisions We The People want. Or are you trying to avoid telling me that it only works for what YOU want and not all the people?

 

[rightwinger]

The issue is "forced"
Nobody is "forced" to be an American

But if you accept being an American, you accept the decisions of We the People

Is that so? So what if we the people decided to bring back slavery again? Well.......are you an American or not?

Interesting perspective

Are you in any way equating saving people's lives to slavery?

No, merely pointing out that just because the people want something doesn't mean that government is obliged to give us that something.

Maybe down the road, most people will want the government to give them an in-ground swimming pool. Is that the role of government because we the people want it? Maybe we will get so sick of supporting prisoners because they were selling illegal recreational narcotics, so we the people decide such activity should be penalized by death. Or maybe our death penalty is too easy and not enough satisfaction for the family of the victim, so we put people to death by tying them up and beating them with a bat.

You keep digging deeper and deeper

Now it is wanting a swimming pool is the equivalent of wanting to live

Sure. They both require what the people want, don't they?

You're the one that said if you accept being an American, you must accept all the decisions We The People want. Or are you trying to avoid telling me that it only works for what YOU want and not all the people?

People want to live?

And you equate that to people want to swim?

 

[FactFinder]

Let's see, if loving my neighbor and helping them out when they are sick versus hating some hater in the MiddleEast is the choices between what I want to spend my money on, I think I may choose helping my neighbor every time.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Let's see, if loving my neighbor and helping them out when they are sick versus hating some hater in the MiddleEast is the choices between what I want to spend my money on, I think I may choose helping my neighbor every time.

You are free to help your neighbor all you want. That's a good thing because it comes from the heart. But you are not free to enter your neighbors home, take their money, and give that money to another neighbor down the street for healthcare.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Is that so? So what if we the people decided to bring back slavery again? Well.......are you an American or not?

Interesting perspective

Are you in any way equating saving people's lives to slavery?

No, merely pointing out that just because the people want something doesn't mean that government is obliged to give us that something.

Maybe down the road, most people will want the government to give them an in-ground swimming pool. Is that the role of government because we the people want it? Maybe we will get so sick of supporting prisoners because they were selling illegal recreational narcotics, so we the people decide such activity should be penalized by death. Or maybe our death penalty is too easy and not enough satisfaction for the family of the victim, so we put people to death by tying them up and beating them with a bat.

You keep digging deeper and deeper

Now it is wanting a swimming pool is the equivalent of wanting to live

Sure. They both require what the people want, don't they?

You're the one that said if you accept being an American, you must accept all the decisions We The People want. Or are you trying to avoid telling me that it only works for what YOU want and not all the people?

People want to live?

And you equate that to people want to swim?

Again you avoid the comparisons; I can't blame you.

What is modern healthcare? Modern healthcare is a way to cheat God out of days he didn't want to give you on this planet. It's not a necessity, it's an option. What did people do before we had modern medical technology? They died. That's it.

But because we have modern health technology now doesn't mean that somebody else should go to work and pay for it so you can live longer than you naturally should have.

And like I posted, if we think everybody should have free healthcare, then everybody should pay for free healthcare. It should be done so we all pay regardless of income.

 

[FactFinder]

Let's see. A sick person just may not quite have the energy or resources that a healthy one may, ya think?

Things must be going pretty good for ya, cause you are coming across as seeming to think you are pretty strong. So strong and full of yourself that you believe you are far above ever needing a helping hand. Okay, God bless you! Go spend your money on killing losers.

Proverbs Chapter 8 Verse 12: I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.

Ya think , medical advances may be knowledge of witty inventions? Ya think, God wants that shared with some elite? Or did he state that he is no respecter of persons? His bounty is for all to receive if they only believe. His creation and His blessings is not to be controlled by some self imposed greater than others. So just who is the gatekeeper to the blessings? Are you God?

 

[Rustic]

Hit hildabeast up for your free healthcare...
$153 million in Bill and Hillary Clinton speaking fees, documented - CNNPolitics.com

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

The whole idea of "rights" has been thoroughly corrupted to the point that people actually buy the notion that a right means the taxpayers must provide something.

A Democrat's in office; you must believe that (for now).

 

[FactFinder]

 

[FactFinder]

Rallying to the cause when we need to may be a bit more cost effective than sitting around being paranoid in the meantime.

 

[FactFinder]

 

[FactFinder]

Our national priorities make us look like a bunch of war mongerers or pansies afraid of our shadow.

 

[regent]

[QUOTE= I wonder what percentage of Americans actually do have a right to free government health care?

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness--not the funding of happiness.

Do you deny that healthcare is the essence of life?

Why should everyone else pay for it?

Would you want the help if you needed it. And..why not? Seems like a better investment than going to Mideast countries and blowing up extremists just cause we can,

funny thing, years ago I broke my back, I didnt have insurance at the time. I ended up getting surgeries and then, paying it off in installments. What a shocker. Did you know hospitals will do this?

Don't you wish you had insurance available?

Sure, but I certainly wasnt out begging people that dont know me to foot the bill. See, I have a thing called self respect. Evidently something many in this country no longer have.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Let's see. A sick person just may not quite have the energy or resources that a healthy one may, ya think?

Things must be going pretty good for ya, cause you are coming across as seeming to think you are pretty strong. So strong and full of yourself that you believe you are far above ever needing a helping hand. Okay, God bless you! Go spend your money on killing losers.

Proverbs Chapter 8 Verse 12: I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.

Ya think , medical advances may be knowledge of witty inventions? Ya think, God wants that shared with some elite? Or did he state that he is no respecter of persons? His bounty is for all to receive if they only believe. His creation and His blessings is not to be controlled by some self imposed greater than others. So just who is the gatekeeper to the blessings? Are you God?

are you God? is the government God? who are you or the government to tell me I have to pay for someone elses insurance.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Everyone has a right to earn their healthcare, meaning like with everything else there is no free lunch.

So why did Wall Street get a free lunch with zero interest rates?
Oh by the way, that is why they are now throwing up all over themselves. Jeeez, they have to now pay .25 %

So if someone does not earn the $100,000 it costs for ten days in a hospital, they deserve to die?

write your check and save them.

So it appears that Patriots support allowing poor people to die

Some Patriot

I support their right to buy health insurance and leave me my money to take care of my own family.
By doing this, I or my family does not become a burden on the rest of society.

 

[Arianrhod]

This is why socialism never works, no one takes responsibility for themselves.

What responsibility should a newborn have for his congenital heart defect?

What responsibility should a 40-year-old who's led a healthy life have for his kidney failure?

Why don't you ever have answers for those things?