No one is going to take your guns

[OODA_Loop]

it must be sad to worry about this all day every day.....as a gun owner...i dont....the ussc has upheld gun owners rights to self defense.....

Me too for the most part.

Vigilant ambivalence here.

 

[Geaux4it]

it must be sad to worry about this all day every day.....as a gun owner...i dont....the ussc has upheld gun owners rights to self defense.....

Indeed they have. Heller vs DC is a good start. Now, it will eventually be ruled that said right exist away from the home as well. This will open up national constitutional carry, thus provide real, meaningful crime reduction measures.

-Geaux

 

[zeke]

Did ANY law abiding American citizen have their gun or guns confiscated in the past 24 hours?
NO? Are you sure?

Surely there must be some REASON for the obsession of the fucking gun nutters.

What is the reason?

 

[OODA_Loop]

Indeed they have. Heller vs DC is a good start. Now, it will eventually be ruled that said right exist away from the home as well. This will open up national constitutional carry, thus provide real, meaningful crime reduction measures.

-Geaux

Concealed Carry is a state purview under the 10th. Keep it that way.

Respectfully.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Did ANY law abiding American citizen have their gun or guns confiscated in the past 24 hours?
NO? Are you sure?

Surely there must be some REASON for the obsession of the fucking gun nutters.

What is the reason?

What happens if you don't comply with the letter and NY law ?

 

[Geaux4it]

Did ANY law abiding American citizen have their gun or guns confiscated in the past 24 hours?
NO? Are you sure?

Surely there must be some REASON for the obsession of the fucking gun nutters.

What is the reason?

It's a slow bleed as I explain to your daily question.

-Geaux

California, When Gun Confiscation Starts, Don’t Let Them In The Door

California inched closer to passing a gun confiscation bill last week. The bill returns to the Senate for some “non-controversial” amendments and then goes to the desk of Governor Brown. What the people of California need to realize is that this is all a formality.
Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/04/c...ont-let-them-in-the-door/#J28Ctp7FE7TdV5zj.99


The following anti-gun/anti-hunting bills have been passed in the California Legislature and are now before the Governor for his consideration:

Assembly Bill 48 (Skinner) bans the sale of parts and repair kits capable of creating or converting a magazine to a capacity to hold greater than ten rounds. To view NRA’s veto letter click here.

Assembly Bill 169 (Dickinson) limits the sale and transfer of all lawfully acquired firearms that were never, or are no longer, on the California roster of approved handguns to two a year and redefines the technical provisions of single short pistols. To view NRA’s veto letter click here.

Assembly Bill 180 (Bonta) repeals state firearms preemption by allowing the City of Oakland to enact ordinances that are more restrictive than state laws concerning the registration or licensing of firearms. To view NRA’s veto letterclick here.

Assembly Bill 231 (Ting) expands the law relating to the storage of firearms. To view NRA’s veto letter click here.

Assembly Bill 711 (Rendon) makes California the first state in the nation to prohibit the use of all lead ammunition for hunting. To view NRA’s veto letter click here.

Senate Bill 299 (DeSaulnier) makes it a crime if a victim of firearm theft does not report the theft within seven days. To view NRA’s veto letter click here.

Senate Bill 374 (Steinberg) bans the future sale or transfer of and classify ALL semi-automatic rifles with a detachable magazine or holding more than ten rounds of ammunition as “assault weapons” and the continued legal possession of these newly classified semi-automatics as “assault weapons” would require that you REGISTER and pay a FEE (TAX) on ALL of them. To view NRA’s veto letter click here.

Senate Bill 475 (Leno) effectively bans gun shows at the Cow Palace by requiring approval of the board of supervisors of the Counties of San Mateo and San Francisco prior to any gun shows. To view NRA’s veto letter click here.

Senate Bill 567 (Jackson) redefines shotguns to include any firearm that may be fired through a rifled bore or a smooth bore, regardless of whether it is designed to be fired from the shoulder. SB 567 also bans the sale of shotguns encompassed by the revised definitions that have a revolving cylinder, and requires registration of these currently owned shotguns. To view NRA’s veto letter click here.

Senate Bill 683 (Block) expands California’s handgun safety certificate requirement to apply to all firearms, and prohibits anyone from purchasing or transferring any firearm without a firearm safety certificate. To view NRA’s veto letter click here.

Senate Bill 755 (Wolk) expands the list of persons prohibited from owning a firearm, including persons who have operated cars and boats while they are impaired commonly referred to as DUI.



Read more: NRA will sue California if Gov Brown signs anti-gun bills | The Daily Caller

 

[theliq]

You are correct, everyone who seeks gun control "in good faith" is a dupe.

In Australia we have NO GUNS policy and since the death of JFK we have had a coule of hundred GUN DEATHS......YOU the mighty less USA have had 1,375,000 now you Sir are the most Ignorant Dupe.

The Australian Military are nearly always in the same conflicts as America......with the previzo that we are near the combat area of the Americans,due to the possibility of "Friendly Fire"

One can’t compare the United States to Australia, or any other Western country, for that matter; gun violence in America is a unique problem, and it can’t be solved with simplistic solutions, ‘banning’ guns in particular.

Of course you CAN compare,the VIOLENT MAD GUN LOBBY always want to make excuses like this TRIPE.....Just admit you LOVE THE GUNS and really couldn't GIVE A SHIT about the Children murdered in Schools and the other 1.375,000 Million MURDERED BY THE GUN.

There is a DEEP SEATED NEGATIVE MENTALITY ABOUT THIS OBSESSION TO CARRY LETHAL WEAPONS.......IN YOUR INSANE WAY OF THINKING.MOREOVER IN YOUR CRAZY-MAD WAY.......YOU THINK EVERYONE HATES YOU,SOME EXTERNAL (NON IDENTIFIED) THREAT.....IT'S ALL IN YOUR STUPIFIED BRAINS......BUT IT DOESN'T EXIST.........YOU LIVE IN A MENTAL MADNESS......MORE AKIN TO THE TALIBAN.

Trouble with A LOT OF AMERICANS TODAY IS....You are a POOR AND PATHETIC example of the Greatness of your FOREBEARS.....YOU SAY YOU CAN'T CHANGE....OF COURSE YOU CAN IF YOU HAVE THE WILL AND A MODICOM OF INTELLIGENCE.

BUT REMEMBER ME WHEN THE CHILDREN DIE BY THE GUN AND YOU SAY "ISN'T THAT TERRIBLE".......YES IT IS BUT YOU GUYS ARE THE REAL SCUM.....AND WE ALL KNOW IT,AND SO DO YOU.

WHEN YOU EVENTUALLY TAKE YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ARSEHOLES(ASSHOLES)

I WILL NOT BE RESPONDING AGAIN ON THIS THREAD,I HAVE SPENT TOO LONG WITH SUCH WASTERS

UNIQUE PROBLEM HEY.......YOUR ASS IT IS.NOTHING PERSONAL CLAYTON..STEVE

 

[zeke]

Did ANY law abiding American citizen have their gun or guns confiscated in the past 24 hours?
NO? Are you sure?

Surely there must be some REASON for the obsession of the fucking gun nutters.

What is the reason?

What happens if you don't comply with the letter and NY law ?

Can't answer the question eh? See the part about "law abiding".

No law abiding citizen had their guns confiscated.

Pisses you off that you have obsessed over something that isn't happening.

But carry on with your fears. They seem to give you purpose.

 

[OODA_Loop]

IN YOUR INSANE WAY OF THINKING.MOREOVER IN YOUR CRAZY-MAD WAY.......YOU THINK EVERYONE HATES YOU,SOME EXTERNAL (NON IDENTIFIED) THREAT.....IT'S ALL IN YOUR STUPIFIED BRAINS......BUT IT DOESN'T EXIST.........YOU LIVE IN A MENTAL MADNESS......MORE AKIN TO THE TALIBAN.

Detectives searching two home invasion suspects who shot a man - FOX 35 News Orlando

 

[OODA_Loop]

Did ANY law abiding American citizen have their gun or guns confiscated in the past 24 hours?
NO? Are you sure?

Surely there must be some REASON for the obsession of the fucking gun nutters.

What is the reason?

What happens if you don't comply with the letter and NY law ?

Can't answer the question eh? See the part about "law abiding".

No law abiding citizen had their guns confiscated.

Pisses you off that you have obsessed over something that isn't happening.

But carry on with your fears. They seem to give you purpose.

Exactly. If you don't surrender what you owned legally a few months ago, then you're not "law abiding" and it is subject to confiscation. Check and mate.

 

[JoeB131]

Dave- Sorry I chased off your whipping boy in the gun debate. They don't like facts.

-Geaux

I love this:

It's like Michelle's saying "My husband might have to put up with your bullshit but I don't".

I was wondering what that was about.

 

[Geaux4it]

What happens if you don't comply with the letter and NY law ?

Can't answer the question eh? See the part about "law abiding".

No law abiding citizen had their guns confiscated.

Pisses you off that you have obsessed over something that isn't happening.

But carry on with your fears. They seem to give you purpose.

Exactly. If you don't surrender what you owned legally a few months ago, then you're not "law abiding" and it is subject to confiscation. Check and mate.

We should adhere to the letter of the law, but the government doesn't have to?

They should build the fence, then get back with us

-Geaux

 

[The T]

Did ANY law abiding American citizen have their gun or guns confiscated in the past 24 hours?
NO? Are you sure?

Surely there must be some REASON for the obsession of the fucking gun nutters.

What is the reason?

Keep sitting in your comfy spot as your liberties are being eroded away slowly but surely.

 

[eagle1462010]

NYSAFE Act Gun Reform | Governor Andrew M. Cuomo

Official site...........Haven't seen it posted yet on this entire thread.............

 

[Geaux4it]

Did ANY law abiding American citizen have their gun or guns confiscated in the past 24 hours?
NO? Are you sure?

Surely there must be some REASON for the obsession of the fucking gun nutters.

What is the reason?

Keep sitting in your comfy spot as your liberties are being eroded away slowly but surely.

And since Obama decided to betray Americans again by signing the United Nations Small Arms Treaty, he will allow a backdoor approach to overcoming the Constitution.

-Geaux

The Arms Trade Treaty - UN Office for Disarmament Affairs

UNODA - Small Arms and Light Weapons

Kerry signs UN arms treaty, senators threaten to block it | Fox News

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/26/world/arms-treaty-now-signed-by-majority-of-un-members.html?_r=0

The International Small Arms Control Standard:The Next Step of the UN Gun Ban

 

[The T]

Did ANY law abiding American citizen have their gun or guns confiscated in the past 24 hours?
NO? Are you sure?

Surely there must be some REASON for the obsession of the fucking gun nutters.

What is the reason?

Keep sitting in your comfy spot as your liberties are being eroded away slowly but surely.

And since Obama decided to betray Americans again by signing the United Nations Small Arms Treaty, he will allow a backdoor approach to overcoming the Constitution.

-Geaux

The Arms Trade Treaty - UN Office for Disarmament Affairs

UNODA - Small Arms and Light Weapons

Kerry signs UN arms treaty, senators threaten to block it | Fox News

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/26/world/arms-treaty-now-signed-by-majority-of-un-members.html?_r=0

The International Small Arms Control Standard:The Next Step of the UN Gun Ban

Yep. ANY SENATOR that votes to ratify it deserves our scorn, and much more. The ONLY way to get rid of the Second is to AMEND the Constitution itself. These laws and treaties don't mean anything...and the people will see to it that it doesn't happen even if we have to USE the Second as it was designed...and that is to stave off tyranny/tyrants by force of arms...for we are the defenders of our liberty...the 'Militia' so many on the left deny exists.

 

[eagle1462010]

The Act requires you to register your weapon if it is classified as an assault weapon.

It will later require you to do a back ground check ap, for buying ammo. aka You will get screened just for buying 22 ammo.............

It is creating a Registry..............
It creates a Registry for buying ammo..............

If you have a simple 22 long barrel rifle, and have more than 7 rounds in it, you will be in violation of the law, subject to confiscation, fines, and etc...........

I've seen how the anti-gun folks have implemented bans before. Canada being the prime example..............

Create a National Registry........Find out who owns guns................2nd step.........force all gun owners to have a license to own...............

Then finally, ban all guns and anyone in the registry would be subject to turn in the same..............

It is a step by step plan, being carried out just as it has in other countries............

The anti gun folks, KNOW THIS..............but their PRAVDA MACHINE demands they deny this..................Tell everyone to register............Say no one is going to take your guns..................Using Psycho BS to say, what are you afraid of...........Get LAW ABIDING CITIZENS TO THEN REGISTER...............

Then take weapons away through a later TYRANNY OF A TEMP MAJORITY...............Just as Obamacare..............

The left will never relent on this until they get their way...........Which is exactly why they must be fought at ever step................

And that is what this is really about.

 

[The T]

The Act requires you to register your weapon if it is classified as an assault weapon.

It will later require you to do a back ground check ap, for buying ammo. aka You will get screened just for buying 22 ammo.............

It is creating a Registry..............
It creates a Registry for buying ammo..............

If you have a simple 22 long barrel rifle, and have more than 7 rounds in it, you will be in violation of the law, subject to confiscation, fines, and etc...........

I've seen how the anti-gun folks have implemented bans before. Canada being the prime example..............

Create a National Registry........Find out who owns guns................2nd step.........force all gun owners to have a license to own...............

Then finally, ban all guns and anyone in the registry would be subject to turn in the same..............

It is a step by step plan, being carried out just as it has in other countries............

The anti gun folks, KNOW THIS..............but their PRAVDA MACHINE demands they deny this..................Tell everyone to register............Say no one is going to take your guns..................Using Psycho BS to say, what are you afraid of...........Get LAW ABIDING CITIZENS TO THEN REGISTER...............

Then take weapons away through a later TYRANNY OF A TEMP MAJORITY...............Just as Obamacare..............

The left will never relent on this until they get their way...........Which is exactly why they must be fought at ever step................

And that is what this is really about.

Like every other plan, law, scheme, agency, program concocted by self gratifying politicians...tell us for our own good safety, protection...but ends up costing our liberty.

 

[jon_berzerk]

The Act requires you to register your weapon if it is classified as an assault weapon.

It will later require you to do a back ground check ap, for buying ammo. aka You will get screened just for buying 22 ammo.............

It is creating a Registry..............
It creates a Registry for buying ammo..............

If you have a simple 22 long barrel rifle, and have more than 7 rounds in it, you will be in violation of the law, subject to confiscation, fines, and etc...........

I've seen how the anti-gun folks have implemented bans before. Canada being the prime example..............

Create a National Registry........Find out who owns guns................2nd step.........force all gun owners to have a license to own...............

Then finally, ban all guns and anyone in the registry would be subject to turn in the same..............

It is a step by step plan, being carried out just as it has in other countries............

The anti gun folks, KNOW THIS..............but their PRAVDA MACHINE demands they deny this..................Tell everyone to register............Say no one is going to take your guns..................Using Psycho BS to say, what are you afraid of...........Get LAW ABIDING CITIZENS TO THEN REGISTER...............

Then take weapons away through a later TYRANNY OF A TEMP MAJORITY...............Just as Obamacare..............

The left will never relent on this until they get their way...........Which is exactly why they must be fought at ever step................

And that is what this is really about.

resistration = confiscation= loss of liberty

 

[jon_berzerk]

Did ANY law abiding American citizen have their gun or guns confiscated in the past 24 hours?
NO? Are you sure?

Surely there must be some REASON for the obsession of the fucking gun nutters.

What is the reason?

Keep sitting in your comfy spot as your liberties are being eroded away slowly but surely.

And since Obama decided to betray Americans again by signing the United Nations Small Arms Treaty, he will allow a backdoor approach to overcoming the Constitution.

-Geaux

The Arms Trade Treaty - UN Office for Disarmament Affairs

UNODA - Small Arms and Light Weapons

Kerry signs UN arms treaty, senators threaten to block it | Fox News

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/26/world/arms-treaty-now-signed-by-majority-of-un-members.html?_r=0

The International Small Arms Control Standard:The Next Step of the UN Gun Ban

would you expect any less of this guy