No Special Master As DOJ Drops Bombshell 40 Page Ruling Obstruction By Trump Team

[Harpy Eagle]

Show us the FBI's evidence. Let's see it.

Did you see all those documents with classified markings?

 

[Lastamender]

I'm not a legal expert, but I still don't understand why they would reject a Special Master to catalog what has been taken, regardless of Trumps actions.

Because the fix is in just like the 2020 election.

 

[HaShev]

It's not illegal to move classified documents out of the White House.

Documents they don't want moved are recollected same day as viewed.
Once again all presidents hold classified docs, and explain how a coctail napkin and Ivanas underware drawer is classified?

 

[Lastamender]

can you tell us more about this shane you feel and why you think it is normal?

A pretty good movie.

 

[BackAgain]

Name any other power of the presidency that propagates instantaneously.

The president as commander in chief, can't even order a nuclear strike, until other ministerial acts are carried out.

You simply don’t understand the case law. It’s ok.

 

[HaShev]

Did you see all those documents with classified markings?

Did you see Biden taking a picture with classified documents on his desk placed(uploaded) online discernable by sophisticated high resolution technology?

 

[Faun]

Documents they don't want moved are recollected same day as viewed.
Once again all presidents hold classified docs, and explain how a coctail napkin and Ivanas underware drawer is classified?
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And classified documents they do want moved remain classified unless specifically designated as unclassified.

 

[HaShev]

Did you see all those documents with classified markings?

No, because we are Not allowed to ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN ARGUMENT, which brings us to the informant was not allowed to know this stuff unless he broke a few laws, oops!
CAPT OBVIOUS SAY HI!

 

[Rambunctious]

Obstruction?... what did Trump do bleach bit the files?....

 

[HaShev]

And classified documents they do want moved remain classified unless specifically designated as unclassified.

Then you better raid Obama and Biden's house then, oops! Argument failure, based on your news source not the law.

 

[Marener]

Obstruction?... what did Trump do bleach bit the files?....

He got a subpoena for any document with classified markings. He accepted the subpoena. He searched his house and turned over documents and claimed that was everything he had.

Then the FBI raided his house and found out pretty quickly he had a bunch more documents that he should have turned over.

So not only did he fail to comply with the subpoena. He lied to the DoJ when he said he complied.

 

[Faun]

Then you better raid Obama and Biden's house then, oops! Argument failure, based on your news source not the law.

Why Obama? He turned everything over to the NARA when he left office. And Biden is president. He's allowed to be in possession of presidential records; classified of not.

 

[Rambunctious]

He got a subpoena for any document with classified markings. He accepted the subpoena. He searched his house and turned over documents and claimed that was everything he had.

Then the FBI raided his house and found out pretty quickly he had a bunch more documents that he should have turned over.

So not only did he fail to comply with the subpoena. He lied to the DoJ when he said he complied.

His lawyers claimed that was all he had... an oversight... happens all the time..... this is just a distraction so the media doesn't have to cover Hunter....
But it will not work...

 

[BackAgain]

Let’s say that Congress passes a law by a slim majority in both houses which the President considers both very stupid and dangerous. Accordingly, as he promised he would, he issues his veto. Upon signing that veto statement, it is all over. The act fails to become a law.

Sure, he has to send the veto message back to Congress, but regardless, the act is not a law.

Now, let’s switch over to his role as Commander in Chief. He and his staff recognize a regional threat. War has not been declared, but he still has the authority to deploy one of our Fleets to that area. Now, he gives that very order to the Chairman if the joint chiefs. Guess what. His say so is all it takes.

Or, maybe he is fed up with obstruction from a subordinate, say a cabinet member. He tells the cabinet member, “you're fired.” Guess what. That cabinet member is done. He will likely be escorted to his office, permitted with supervision to pack his personal stuff and he will be escorted out the door. There may be additional paperwork. No worries. But until those papers are filed, the cabinet official is still out of the job.

 

[Rambunctious]

The DOJ uses the word likely about a dozen times in their news release today... sounds like the maybe bunch we have here....

 

[Rambunctious]

Improper storage of classified documents happens all the time...
This is a joke....

 

[Marener]

His lawyers claimed that was all he had... an oversight... happens all the time..... this is just a distraction so the media doesn't have to cover Hunter....
But it will not work...

Hmmm, an oversight, huh?

They found over 100 documents, mostly in the store room that the lawyers said they "thoroughly" searched. It also is the storeroom that they refused to let the FBI look through when they came to meet Trump's lawyers voluntarily on June 3rd. And it's not like these documents are inconspicuous. They have these bright yellow and red cover sheets that scream classified information.

I think these lawyers are going to have a hard time saying it's just an oopsie.

 

[Rambunctious]

Hmmm, an oversight, huh?

They found over 100 documents, mostly in the store room that the lawyers said they "thoroughly" searched. It also is the storeroom that they refused to let the FBI look through when they came to meet Trump's lawyers voluntarily on June 3rd. And it's not like these documents are inconspicuous. They have these bright yellow and red cover sheets that scream classified information.

I think these lawyers are going to have a hard time saying it's just an oopsie.

Bullshit where did you get that?.... LOL

 

[Rambunctious]

The DOJ is in the CYA mode.... unreal they take documents dump them on the floor and took pictures of them????
Most agents on the scene don't even have the classification level to view them....

 

[Marener]

Let’s say that Congress passes a law by a slim majority in both houses which the President considers both very stupid and dangerous. Accordingly, as he promised he would, he issues his veto. Upon signing that veto statement, it is all over. The act fails to become a law.

Sure, he has to send the veto message back to Congress, but regardless, the act is not a law.

Now, let’s switch over to his role as Commander in Chief. He and his staff recognize a regional threat. War has not been declared, but he still has the authority to deploy one of our Fleets to that area. Now, he gives that very order to the Chairman if the joint chiefs. Guess what. His say so is all it takes.

Or, maybe he is fed up with obstruction from a subordinate, say a cabinet member. He tells the cabinet member, “you're fired.” Guess what. That cabinet member is done. He will likely be escorted to his office, permitted with supervision to pack his personal stuff and he will be escorted out the door. There may be additional paperwork. No worries. But until those papers are filed, the cabinet official is still out of the job.

In all these circumstances, the president has communicated his order to subordinates who carry out the order that also generates records.

The veto is a signature, a written record.

Orders to the fleet are written records.

Firing a cabinet member produces a record.

There are no records demonstrating these documents are declassified. None. The excuse people are making is that Trump doesn't even have to tell anyone he declassified the records. That seems especially sketchy. I don't think we'd accept any other executive action to be enacted just by thinking it.