No Special Master As DOJ Drops Bombshell 40 Page Ruling Obstruction By Trump Team

[Marener]

Bullshit where did you get that?.... LOL

Read the DoJ court filing from last night. Roughly page 12 (although I strongly recommend you read the whole thing)

DocumentCloud

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[Stann]

Trump insisted he sign a bill for harder sentencing for people who mishandle secret papers of the govt.

That is a problem for him isn’t it?

How ironic, some people say trump is brilliant; I say he's a brilliant fool.

 

[Rambunctious]

Trump says any classified documents left at Mar A Lago have been declassified... now what?....

 

[Rambunctious]

Read the DoJ court filing from last night. Roughly page 12 (although I strongly recommend you read the whole thing)

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

I did and its full of words like Likely and possibly....

 

[Stann]

In all these circumstances, the president has communicated his order to subordinates who carry out the order that also generates records.

The veto is a signature, a written record.

Orders to the fleet are written records.

Firing a cabinet member produces a record.

There are no records demonstrating these documents are declassified. None. The excuse people are making is that Trump doesn't even have to tell anyone he declassified the records. That seems especially sketchy. I don't think we'd accept any other executive action to be enacted just by thinking it.

More lies from trump, what else could you expect from him.

 

[Marener]

I did and its full of words like Likely and possibly....

Of the Seized Evidence, thirteen boxes or containers contained documents with classification markings, and in all, over one hundred unique documents with classification markings—that is, more than twice the amount produced on June 3, 2022, in response to the grand jury subpoena—were seized. Certain of the documents had colored cover sheets indicating their classification status. See, e.g., Attachment F (redacted FBI photograph of certain documents and classified cover sheets recovered from a container in the “45 office”). The classification levels ranged from CONFIDENTIAL to TOP SECRET information, and certain documents included additional sensitive compartments that signify very limited distribution. In some instances, even the FBI counterintelligence personnel and DOJ attorneys conducting the review required additional clearances before they were permitted to review certain documents. Notwithstanding counsel’s representation on June 3, 2022, that materials from the White House were only located in the Storage Room, classified documents were found in both the Storage Room and in the former President’s office.

No likely or possibly. It's exactly as I described which you said was "bullshit".

 

[excalibur]

They were declassified per EOs issued by GW Bush and Øbama.

Every time a President removes classified documents from the White House those are automatically declassified per those EOs.

The DoJ is now rogue.

 

[Marener]

Every time a President removes classified documents from the White House those are automatically declassified per those EOs.

They're not. The EOs say nothing about that.

I sure hope this is just trolling.

 

[excalibur]

Obama’s executive order no. 13526, issued in 2009, laid out the stringent process all federal officials and agencies needed to follow for declassification but explicitly exempted the sitting president and vice president from having to follow those procedures.

There is also an executive order by George W. Bush in 2003 that covers it.​

Donald Trump Had a Standing Order for Declassification of Docs

Oops! Sorry, leftoids. Donald Trump had a “standing order” that the documents at Mar-A-Lago were to be considered declassified, according to a statement the former president’s office provided to Just the News on Friday. “The very fact that these documents were present at Mar-a-Lago means...

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[two_iron]

I'm old enough to remember the stuttering fuck divulging classified documents to the camera.

YOU have a bowel movement BEFORE you are trotted out to the camera. YOU mumble incoherently and YOU struggle with the English language until YOU hear snickering and laughter. YOU slink back to your hole and YOU do not attempt to answer any questions.

 

[Rambunctious]

Of the Seized Evidence, thirteen boxes or containers contained documents with classification markings, and in all, over one hundred unique documents with classification markings—that is, more than twice the amount produced on June 3, 2022, in response to the grand jury subpoena—were seized. Certain of the documents had colored cover sheets indicating their classification status. See, e.g., Attachment F (redacted FBI photograph of certain documents and classified cover sheets recovered from a container in the “45 office”). The classification levels ranged from CONFIDENTIAL to TOP SECRET information, and certain documents included additional sensitive compartments that signify very limited distribution. In some instances, even the FBI counterintelligence personnel and DOJ attorneys conducting the review required additional clearances before they were permitted to review certain documents. Notwithstanding counsel’s representation on June 3, 2022, that materials from the White House were only located in the Storage Room, classified documents were found in both the Storage Room and in the former President’s office.

No likely or possibly. It's exactly as I described which you said was "bullshit".

It is BS this entire thing is BS.... nothing is going to come from this... Trump will not be prosecuted or taken to jail and he will be able to seek office again if he chooses... meanwhile Joe is dividing the nation and ruining our economy and letting China kill our kids and elderly with a bio weapon and drugs... and you are stuck on this....
Says more about you than Trump....

 

[Marener]

It is BS this entire thing is BS.... nothing is going to come from this... Trump will not be prosecuted or taken to jail and he will be able to seek office again if he chooses... meanwhile Joe is dividing the nation and ruining our economy and letting China kill our kids and elderly with a bio weapon and drugs... and you are stuck on this....
Says more about you than Trump....

Trump won't run again. He's not stupid.

 

[Marener]

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Obama’s executive order no. 13526, issued in 2009, laid out the stringent process all federal officials and agencies needed to follow for declassification but explicitly exempted the sitting president and vice president from having to follow those procedures.​

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There is also an executive order by George W. Bush in 2003 that covers it.​

Donald Trump Had a Standing Order for Declassification of Docs

Oops! Sorry, leftoids. Donald Trump had a “standing order” that the documents at Mar-A-Lago were to be considered declassified, according to a statement the former president’s office provided to Just the News on Friday. “The very fact that these documents were present at Mar-a-Lago means...

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Cool. Where's the part about stuff "automatically" being declassified?

 

[iceberg]

You know they added that to the picture on purpose just to poke at Trump!

The entire thing is to poke at Trump.

 

[Rambunctious]

Trump won't run again. He's not stupid.

Don't be so sure he may have to in order to stop the witch hunt because the left isn't going to stop coming after him....
In the end it may be TDSers that end up pushing him into the race...

 

[iceberg]

There's no evidence that the server was hacked.

FBI: No evidence Clinton server hacked despite Trump tweet

The FBI says it has no evidence Hillary Clinton's private email server was compromised even though President Donald Trump tweeted a news report that alleged the Chinese had hacked it.

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Look, it makes no sense to say that Trump had his documents secure but he also had them declassified.

If they're declassified, then the information is now publicly available, meaning that Trump has opened the door to anyone getting to see them without regard to protecting national security. So it makes NO DIFFERENCE whether they were locked up with secret service or whatever. If they're declassified, they're not secrets anymore.

Then why did the DOJ tell him to simply secure them better back in June?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Trump says any classified documents left at Mar A Lago have been declassified... now what?....

Now everyone laughs at his childish lie. What else?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Then why did the DOJ tell him to simply secure them better back in June?

Because they were told none of those docs were classified. As you can find by actually reading the document that is the thread topic.

 

[Stann]

Trump says any classified documents left at Mar A Lago have been declassified... now what?....

If he's not lying that's fine. But there has to be a paper trail of anything that was declassified, if there isn't a paper trail it was not declassified. Someone just saying it was be classified does not mean it's been declassified, especially considering this source. We're talking about the biggest liar in the world.

 

[Marener]

Then why did the DOJ tell him to simply secure them better back in June?

Secure what exactly?

The DoJ was told that all documents with classified markings had been turned over to them. The lawyers for Trump signed a statement indicating that was true and forbid the DoJ lawyers from looking in any of the boxes in the basement. If the Trump lawyers had told the truth, there wouldn't have been any classified documents in there. Maybe Bratt was already suspicious they weren't being truthful.

As far as I'm aware, the DoJ told them to lock the room in an effort to preserve evidence. It wasn't them requesting a bigger lock because that's how they said it should be stored. They said close the room, don't touch anything in it until further notice.