No taxes, none. Now what do we pay for, and how?

[Windship]

And BTW, I know the history. We don't live in history, we live now.[/QUOTE]

lmfao...now, they're's good advice....lmao...wow.



Well, you could also ask the nations far more tax free and recently successful countries How did they do it?

OK, WHO HOT SHOT?

 

[Norman]

I agree that there are plenty of people who have advocated for no taxes. That's perhaps the only thing the OP has gotten right...

But even then, none think such thing should be achieved overnight. So in practice... pretty much no-one.

 

[imawhosure]

A simple question for all those radical anti-tax people.

When it comes to going to war, how is that paid for?
Repairs to public roads and bridges after a natural disaster?
A standing army and navy?

Okay, let's hear it.

I don't know (or rather want to explain). Why don't you read a history book to figure out?

No thanks. If you can't tell me, I don't care.

And BTW, I know the history. We don't live in history, we live now.

Well, you could also ask the nations far more tax free and recently successful than USA.

How did they do it?

They lowered taxes. Wow... You do know that taxes have a negative effect on the economy. You just lower them and the rest seems to be handled almost magically.

Bush lowered them, it got worse. JFK lowered them, it got better. Clinton raised them, it got better. Reagan raised them, it got better.

Now, what could all that mean? Maybe, just maybe, taxes aren't a light switch or a magical fairy wand.

You are an IDIOT Jacky, lol. Start with Coolidge, go to JFK, then Reagan, Then Clinton, (who lowered Capital gains taxes, lol) then GW. Look at the inflow of money into the treasury before, and the inflow 12 to 18 months later. What do we see!?!?!?!?! We see tax receipts GOING UP!

Now then, if you lefties actually want more money to spend and that is all you really want, you would follow suit............because ALL logical people would. Want the desired outcome from the past-------------->you recreate the inputs that gave the desired income.

But, everyone knows (except maybe you) that this is NOT about tax receipts to spend, this is about class warfare, and how many votes the left can get by playing it. That is also why the lefts whole shtick really isn't about creating jobs, it is about creating envy between people with low income jobs, and high income jobs, and blaming the high income earners for the plight of those below them.

I give you a challenge---------------> You as a class warfare soldier, from here forward before you start a diatribe, ask the question.........................if I (meaning you) created a new widget tomorrow and somebody paid you 50 million dollars for the patent or exclusive rights to it, how would that affect the welfare mom in Philadelphia negatively! What about the out of work IT person? It DOESN'T! Just because someone makes 10, 20, or 30 million this week, it has absolutely no effect on our income, because they did NOT steal it from anyone, the money was given to them freely by somebody wanting their services, or buying their product or ideas. You lefties logic goes like this------------> Michael Jordan put the city of Chicago in the red, because while he was a Chicago Bull, he amassed over a BILLION dollars in wealth. He had to steal it from someone, and this money caused everyone else's in the city of Chicago to drop!!!!!

That is LEFTY, Socialist, Marxist, propaganda, and anyone with an IQ over 1 knows it-)

 

[Jack4jill]

A simple question for all those radical anti-tax people.

When it comes to going to war, how is that paid for?
Repairs to public roads and bridges after a natural disaster?
A standing army and navy?

Okay, let's hear it.

I don't know (or rather want to explain). Why don't you read a history book to figure out?

No thanks. If you can't tell me, I don't care.

And BTW, I know the history. We don't live in history, we live now.

Well, you could also ask the nations far more tax free and recently successful than USA.

How did they do it?

They lowered taxes. Wow... You do know that taxes have a negative effect on the economy. You just lower them and the rest seems to be handled almost magically.

Bush lowered them, it got worse. JFK lowered them, it got better. Clinton raised them, it got better. Reagan raised them, it got better.

Now, what could all that mean? Maybe, just maybe, taxes aren't a light switch or a magical fairy wand.

You are an IDIOT Jacky, lol. Start with Coolidge, go to JFK, then Reagan, Then Clinton, (who lowered Capital gains taxes, lol) then GW. Look at the inflow of money into the treasury before, and the inflow 12 to 18 months later. What do we see!?!?!?!?! We see tax receipts GOING UP!

Now then, if you lefties actually want more money to spend and that is all you really want, you would follow suit............because ALL logical people would. Want the desired outcome from the past-------------->you recreate the inputs that gave the desired income.

But, everyone knows (except maybe you) that this is NOT about tax receipts to spend, this is about class warfare, and how many votes the left can get by playing it. That is also why the lefts whole shtick really isn't about creating jobs, it is about creating envy between people with low income jobs, and high income jobs, and blaming the high income earners for the plight of those below them.

I give you a challenge---------------> You as a class warfare soldier, from here forward before you start a diatribe, ask the question.........................if I (meaning you) created a new widget tomorrow and somebody paid you 50 million dollars for the patent or exclusive rights to it, how would that affect the welfare mom in Philadelphia negatively! What about the out of work IT person? It DOESN'T! Just because someone makes 10, 20, or 30 million this week, it has absolutely no effect on our income, because they did NOT steal it from anyone, the money was given to them freely by somebody wanting their services, or buying their product or ideas. You lefties logic goes like this------------> Michael Jordan put the city of Chicago in the red, because while he was a Chicago Bull, he amassed over a BILLION dollars in wealth. He had to steal it from someone, and this money caused everyone else's in the city of Chicago to drop!!!!!

That is LEFTY, Socialist, Marxist, propaganda, and anyone with an IQ over 1 knows it-)

What I see are happy markets under Democrats, and not so under the GOP.

 

[Jack4jill]

A simple question for all those radical anti-tax people.

When it comes to going to war, how is that paid for?
Repairs to public roads and bridges after a natural disaster?
A standing army and navy?

Okay, let's hear it.

Who suggested no taxes?

Okay, let's hear it.

Briapat, and his cookie sales for tanks.

 

[Jack4jill]

A simple question for all those radical anti-tax people.

When it comes to going to war, how is that paid for?
Repairs to public roads and bridges after a natural disaster?
A standing army and navy?

Okay, let's hear it.

Is anyone anti tax? I don't think so. We are against excessive taxation and government waste. We want fiscal responsibility.

The federal taxes will pay for the military, and the local taxes will pay for the roads. How hard is that?

Doesn't cover the federal highway system, or the FAA.

You expect me to list everything? Try thinking, maybe you will understand what I was saying.

Yes, I do. Every last function.

 

[imawhosure]

I don't know (or rather want to explain). Why don't you read a history book to figure out?

No thanks. If you can't tell me, I don't care.

And BTW, I know the history. We don't live in history, we live now.

Well, you could also ask the nations far more tax free and recently successful than USA.

How did they do it?

They lowered taxes. Wow... You do know that taxes have a negative effect on the economy. You just lower them and the rest seems to be handled almost magically.

Bush lowered them, it got worse. JFK lowered them, it got better. Clinton raised them, it got better. Reagan raised them, it got better.

Now, what could all that mean? Maybe, just maybe, taxes aren't a light switch or a magical fairy wand.

You are an IDIOT Jacky, lol. Start with Coolidge, go to JFK, then Reagan, Then Clinton, (who lowered Capital gains taxes, lol) then GW. Look at the inflow of money into the treasury before, and the inflow 12 to 18 months later. What do we see!?!?!?!?! We see tax receipts GOING UP!

Now then, if you lefties actually want more money to spend and that is all you really want, you would follow suit............because ALL logical people would. Want the desired outcome from the past-------------->you recreate the inputs that gave the desired income.

But, everyone knows (except maybe you) that this is NOT about tax receipts to spend, this is about class warfare, and how many votes the left can get by playing it. That is also why the lefts whole shtick really isn't about creating jobs, it is about creating envy between people with low income jobs, and high income jobs, and blaming the high income earners for the plight of those below them.

I give you a challenge---------------> You as a class warfare soldier, from here forward before you start a diatribe, ask the question.........................if I (meaning you) created a new widget tomorrow and somebody paid you 50 million dollars for the patent or exclusive rights to it, how would that affect the welfare mom in Philadelphia negatively! What about the out of work IT person? It DOESN'T! Just because someone makes 10, 20, or 30 million this week, it has absolutely no effect on our income, because they did NOT steal it from anyone, the money was given to them freely by somebody wanting their services, or buying their product or ideas. You lefties logic goes like this------------> Michael Jordan put the city of Chicago in the red, because while he was a Chicago Bull, he amassed over a BILLION dollars in wealth. He had to steal it from someone, and this money caused everyone else's in the city of Chicago to drop!!!!!

That is LEFTY, Socialist, Marxist, propaganda, and anyone with an IQ over 1 knows it-)

What I see are happy markets under Democrats, and not so under the GOP.

Is that what you see, lol.

So let me translate that into economic terms for you there brilliant one-------------> Markets=where upper middle class and the rich invest=how they acquire a lot of their wealth in the markets=poor person doesn't have disposable income to invest=exactly what we have been saying--------. DEMOCRATS=CRONY capitalism, where the rich and connected get richer, while the poor get poorer.

Yep, you proved it, and thank you very much!

 

[Jack4jill]

No thanks. If you can't tell me, I don't care.

And BTW, I know the history. We don't live in history, we live now.

Well, you could also ask the nations far more tax free and recently successful than USA.

How did they do it?

They lowered taxes. Wow... You do know that taxes have a negative effect on the economy. You just lower them and the rest seems to be handled almost magically.

Bush lowered them, it got worse. JFK lowered them, it got better. Clinton raised them, it got better. Reagan raised them, it got better.

Now, what could all that mean? Maybe, just maybe, taxes aren't a light switch or a magical fairy wand.

You are an IDIOT Jacky, lol. Start with Coolidge, go to JFK, then Reagan, Then Clinton, (who lowered Capital gains taxes, lol) then GW. Look at the inflow of money into the treasury before, and the inflow 12 to 18 months later. What do we see!?!?!?!?! We see tax receipts GOING UP!

Now then, if you lefties actually want more money to spend and that is all you really want, you would follow suit............because ALL logical people would. Want the desired outcome from the past-------------->you recreate the inputs that gave the desired income.

But, everyone knows (except maybe you) that this is NOT about tax receipts to spend, this is about class warfare, and how many votes the left can get by playing it. That is also why the lefts whole shtick really isn't about creating jobs, it is about creating envy between people with low income jobs, and high income jobs, and blaming the high income earners for the plight of those below them.

I give you a challenge---------------> You as a class warfare soldier, from here forward before you start a diatribe, ask the question.........................if I (meaning you) created a new widget tomorrow and somebody paid you 50 million dollars for the patent or exclusive rights to it, how would that affect the welfare mom in Philadelphia negatively! What about the out of work IT person? It DOESN'T! Just because someone makes 10, 20, or 30 million this week, it has absolutely no effect on our income, because they did NOT steal it from anyone, the money was given to them freely by somebody wanting their services, or buying their product or ideas. You lefties logic goes like this------------> Michael Jordan put the city of Chicago in the red, because while he was a Chicago Bull, he amassed over a BILLION dollars in wealth. He had to steal it from someone, and this money caused everyone else's in the city of Chicago to drop!!!!!

That is LEFTY, Socialist, Marxist, propaganda, and anyone with an IQ over 1 knows it-)

What I see are happy markets under Democrats, and not so under the GOP.

Is that what you see, lol.

So let me translate that into economic terms for you there brilliant one-------------> Markets=where upper middle class and the rich invest=how they acquire a lot of their wealth in the markets=poor person doesn't have disposable income to invest=exactly what we have been saying--------. DEMOCRATS=CRONY capitalism, where the rich and connected get richer, while the poor get poorer.

Yep, you proved it, and thank you very much!

I see, you're a Marxist then?

Most people like people getting rich here. Sorry about that.

 

[imawhosure]

Well, you could also ask the nations far more tax free and recently successful than USA.

How did they do it?

They lowered taxes. Wow... You do know that taxes have a negative effect on the economy. You just lower them and the rest seems to be handled almost magically.

Bush lowered them, it got worse. JFK lowered them, it got better. Clinton raised them, it got better. Reagan raised them, it got better.

Now, what could all that mean? Maybe, just maybe, taxes aren't a light switch or a magical fairy wand.

You are an IDIOT Jacky, lol. Start with Coolidge, go to JFK, then Reagan, Then Clinton, (who lowered Capital gains taxes, lol) then GW. Look at the inflow of money into the treasury before, and the inflow 12 to 18 months later. What do we see!?!?!?!?! We see tax receipts GOING UP!

Now then, if you lefties actually want more money to spend and that is all you really want, you would follow suit............because ALL logical people would. Want the desired outcome from the past-------------->you recreate the inputs that gave the desired income.

But, everyone knows (except maybe you) that this is NOT about tax receipts to spend, this is about class warfare, and how many votes the left can get by playing it. That is also why the lefts whole shtick really isn't about creating jobs, it is about creating envy between people with low income jobs, and high income jobs, and blaming the high income earners for the plight of those below them.

I give you a challenge---------------> You as a class warfare soldier, from here forward before you start a diatribe, ask the question.........................if I (meaning you) created a new widget tomorrow and somebody paid you 50 million dollars for the patent or exclusive rights to it, how would that affect the welfare mom in Philadelphia negatively! What about the out of work IT person? It DOESN'T! Just because someone makes 10, 20, or 30 million this week, it has absolutely no effect on our income, because they did NOT steal it from anyone, the money was given to them freely by somebody wanting their services, or buying their product or ideas. You lefties logic goes like this------------> Michael Jordan put the city of Chicago in the red, because while he was a Chicago Bull, he amassed over a BILLION dollars in wealth. He had to steal it from someone, and this money caused everyone else's in the city of Chicago to drop!!!!!

That is LEFTY, Socialist, Marxist, propaganda, and anyone with an IQ over 1 knows it-)

What I see are happy markets under Democrats, and not so under the GOP.

Is that what you see, lol.

So let me translate that into economic terms for you there brilliant one-------------> Markets=where upper middle class and the rich invest=how they acquire a lot of their wealth in the markets=poor person doesn't have disposable income to invest=exactly what we have been saying--------. DEMOCRATS=CRONY capitalism, where the rich and connected get richer, while the poor get poorer.

Yep, you proved it, and thank you very much!

I see, you're a Marxist then?

Most people like people getting rich here. Sorry about that.

So you like Democrats picking winners and losers? Do you know what Socialism is? It is control of the economy by the government. That is EXACTLY what crony capitalism is. That makes YOU the socialist/Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist/Trotskyite from what I see, comrade Jacky-)

 

[The Rabbi]

Wrong.
Bush lowered taxes and tax revenue went up.
JFK lowere taxes and revenue went up
Clinton raised taxes and revenue went down
Obama raised taxes and we have the worst growth in history.

And in every single one of those cases, federal debt went up.

Because spending soared faster than revenue. Your point?

 

[The Rabbi]

Again who is calling for no taxes?

USMB POLL: Repeal the 16th Amendment (Income Tax)

You're kidding, right? Even repealing hte 16thA does not mean eliminating all taxes. Many people favor the Fair Tax.

 

[Jack4jill]

Bush lowered them, it got worse. JFK lowered them, it got better. Clinton raised them, it got better. Reagan raised them, it got better.

Now, what could all that mean? Maybe, just maybe, taxes aren't a light switch or a magical fairy wand.

You are an IDIOT Jacky, lol. Start with Coolidge, go to JFK, then Reagan, Then Clinton, (who lowered Capital gains taxes, lol) then GW. Look at the inflow of money into the treasury before, and the inflow 12 to 18 months later. What do we see!?!?!?!?! We see tax receipts GOING UP!

Now then, if you lefties actually want more money to spend and that is all you really want, you would follow suit............because ALL logical people would. Want the desired outcome from the past-------------->you recreate the inputs that gave the desired income.

But, everyone knows (except maybe you) that this is NOT about tax receipts to spend, this is about class warfare, and how many votes the left can get by playing it. That is also why the lefts whole shtick really isn't about creating jobs, it is about creating envy between people with low income jobs, and high income jobs, and blaming the high income earners for the plight of those below them.

I give you a challenge---------------> You as a class warfare soldier, from here forward before you start a diatribe, ask the question.........................if I (meaning you) created a new widget tomorrow and somebody paid you 50 million dollars for the patent or exclusive rights to it, how would that affect the welfare mom in Philadelphia negatively! What about the out of work IT person? It DOESN'T! Just because someone makes 10, 20, or 30 million this week, it has absolutely no effect on our income, because they did NOT steal it from anyone, the money was given to them freely by somebody wanting their services, or buying their product or ideas. You lefties logic goes like this------------> Michael Jordan put the city of Chicago in the red, because while he was a Chicago Bull, he amassed over a BILLION dollars in wealth. He had to steal it from someone, and this money caused everyone else's in the city of Chicago to drop!!!!!

That is LEFTY, Socialist, Marxist, propaganda, and anyone with an IQ over 1 knows it-)

What I see are happy markets under Democrats, and not so under the GOP.

Is that what you see, lol.

So let me translate that into economic terms for you there brilliant one-------------> Markets=where upper middle class and the rich invest=how they acquire a lot of their wealth in the markets=poor person doesn't have disposable income to invest=exactly what we have been saying--------. DEMOCRATS=CRONY capitalism, where the rich and connected get richer, while the poor get poorer.

Yep, you proved it, and thank you very much!

I see, you're a Marxist then?

Most people like people getting rich here. Sorry about that.

So you like Democrats picking winners and losers? Do you know what Socialism is? It is control of the economy by the government. That is EXACTLY what crony capitalism is. That makes YOU the socialist/Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist/Trotskyite from what I see, comrade Jacky-)

I'm letting capitalism do its thing. You are one complaining about the little guy getting screwed.

 

[Jack4jill]

Again who is calling for no taxes?

USMB POLL: Repeal the 16th Amendment (Income Tax)

You're kidding, right? Even repealing hte 16thA does not mean eliminating all taxes. Many people favor the Fair Tax.

No such thing.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

A simple question for all those radical anti-tax people.

When it comes to going to war, how is that paid for?
Repairs to public roads and bridges after a natural disaster?
A standing army and navy?

Okay, let's hear it.

Who suggested no taxes?

Okay, let's hear it.

Briapat, and his cookie sales for tanks.

He suggested no taxes at all?

 

[Jack4jill]

A simple question for all those radical anti-tax people.

When it comes to going to war, how is that paid for?
Repairs to public roads and bridges after a natural disaster?
A standing army and navy?

Okay, let's hear it.

Who suggested no taxes?

Okay, let's hear it.

Briapat, and his cookie sales for tanks.

He suggested no taxes at all?

He's going to fund the military with a call-in telethon, what do you think?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

A simple question for all those radical anti-tax people.

When it comes to going to war, how is that paid for?
Repairs to public roads and bridges after a natural disaster?
A standing army and navy?

Okay, let's hear it.

Who suggested no taxes?

Okay, let's hear it.

Briapat, and his cookie sales for tanks.

He suggested no taxes at all?

He's going to fun the military with a call-in telethon, what do you think?

I've got a pretty good feeling that's not what he said

 

[The Rabbi]

The Fair Tax doesnt exist? Try Google.

 

[Jack4jill]

A simple question for all those radical anti-tax people.

When it comes to going to war, how is that paid for?
Repairs to public roads and bridges after a natural disaster?
A standing army and navy?

Okay, let's hear it.

Who suggested no taxes?

Okay, let's hear it.

Briapat, and his cookie sales for tanks.

He suggested no taxes at all?

He's going to fun the military with a call-in telethon, what do you think?

I've got a pretty good feeling that's not what he said

Fuck your feelings. Does no one ever read the fucking threads?

The Problem with Socialism

#11.

 

[Jack4jill]

The Fair Tax doesnt exist? Try Google.

It exists, there's just no such thing as a fair tax. It's impossible.

 

[g5000]

Again who is calling for no taxes?

USMB POLL: Repeal the 16th Amendment (Income Tax)

You're kidding, right? Even repealing hte 16thA does not mean eliminating all taxes. Many people favor the Fair Tax.

No, I'm not kidding. You should read the topic. A lot of people who want to repeal the 16th want to replace it with tariffs, not the Fair Tax.

I'm all for the Fair Tax.