Zone1 Noah's Ark

[Woodznutz]

All looking at the moon see a circle with the naked eye, yet it is a sphere thus can be called a circle.

When viewed through binoculars, it is clearly a sphere.

 

[kjw47]

The scripture is specific. You've been conned. Charlatans are a dime a dozen....and now you are dominated by Trump. What next?

My only king=Jesus-- The mislead serve other masters.

 

[kjw47]

The earth is actually the center of the universe regardless of its orbit around the sun. Although scientists are busily trying to make Mars the center.

Mans science is flawed to the core.

 

[kjw47]

When viewed through binoculars, it is clearly a sphere.

They didn't have them in Jobs day--or after when Moses wrote the book of Job.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Meaning what if it was just two of every animal of where they lived?

That of course would still be impossible.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

When viewed through binoculars, it is clearly a sphere.

No. Your eyes are too close together, compared to the distance of the moon. Shadow angles may cause your brain to perceive "convexity", but that's a trick. It appears to us as a 2d disk, due to its distance.

 

[BreezeWood]

When viewed through binoculars, it is clearly a sphere.

it's your religion that persecuted galileo - and everyone else are you now repudiating the christian bible or not ... the same for the false commandments of judaism as was the goal of jesus and those that gave their lives in the 1st century.

 

[Woodznutz]

The firmament/vault thing is ridiculous.

Here's a picture.

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it's your religion that persecuted galileo - and everyone else are you now repudiating the christian bible or not ... the same for the false commandments of judaism as was the goal of jesus and those that gave their lives in the 1st century.

My religion doesn't concern itself with such matters. The same 'church' that persecuted Galileo also persecuted the true church. The true church has been on the run until it arrived in America and people were ensured the right to freedom of religion.

 

[Woodznutz]

No. Your eyes are too close together, compared to the distance of the moon. Shadow angles may cause your brain to perceive "convexity", but that's a trick. It appears to us as a 2d disk, due to its distance.

It's the changing angles of the moon's surface features that reveal its spherical shape.

 

[BreezeWood]

My religion doesn't concern itself with such matters. The same 'church' that persecuted Galileo also persecuted the true church. The true church has been on the run until it arrived in America and people were ensured the right to freedom of religion.

... the same for the false commandments of judaism as was the goal of jesus and those that gave their lives in the 1st century.

does your church not include jesus as well as the christian bible ... you use their tactics, christianity throughout your posts - to persecute and victimize the innocent are you claiming now you are not a christian.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof:

the u s constitution prevents religion from influencing the free gov't ... they knew perfectly well the despotism of the desert religions. nutz.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Several Wyoming's would fit inside the ark.

Why weren't nautical terms used in the design and construction of the ark? Any architect would recognize the ark was a building and not a ship, based on the terms described in the narrative.

Hey, why not just say it was a space ship? You've made everything else up, let's go CRAZY and make up stories about it going to Mars, Mars is pretty dry. The animals could roam around up there until the flood disappeared.

 

[Woodznutz]

does your church not include jesus as well as the christian bible ... you use their tactics, christianity throughout your posts - to persecute and victimize the innocent are you claiming now you are not a christian.



the u s constitution prevents religion from influencing the free gov't ... they knew perfectly well the despotism of the desert religions. nutz.

You need to provide an alternate point of view instead of just throwing stones.

 

[Woodznutz]

Hey, why not just say it was a space ship? You've made everything else up, let's go CRAZY and make up stories about it going to Mars, Mars is pretty dry. The animals could roam around up there until the flood disappeared.

The ark was a large, waterproofed, three-story building, with many rooms, a door in the side and a window above, as the story provides. How else it was fitted out is unknown.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The ark was a large, waterproofed, three-story building, with many rooms, a door in the side and a window above, as the story provides. How else it was fitted out is unknown.

The ark was large.

So what does the Bible say about it, and what did you make up?

Noah's Ark - Wikipedia

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"Noah's instructions are given to him by God (Genesis 6:14–16): the ark is to be 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide, and 30 cubits high (approximately 134×22×13 m or 440×72×43 ft)."

Wyoming (schooner) - Wikipedia

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"Wyoming was an American wooden six-masted schooner built and completed in 1909 by the firm of Percy & Small in Bath, Maine.[1] With a length of 450 ft (140 m) from jib-boom tip to spanker boom tip, Wyoming was the largest known wooden ship ever built.[4]"

22 cubits is 32 feet and 13 cubits is 19 feet.

The Wyoming was beam 50 feet, and draught 30 feet.
So the Wyoming was bigger.

This is what the Bible says. Not what I made up.

So, it was 450 feet long.

300 cubits is 440 feet long. So it's 10 feet shorter than the Wyoming.

 

[Woodznutz]

The ark was large.

So what does the Bible say about it, and what did you make up?

Noah's Ark - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Noah's instructions are given to him by God (Genesis 6:14–16): the ark is to be 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide, and 30 cubits high (approximately 134×22×13 m or 440×72×43 ft)."

Wyoming (schooner) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Wyoming was an American wooden six-masted schooner built and completed in 1909 by the firm of Percy & Small in Bath, Maine.[1] With a length of 450 ft (140 m) from jib-boom tip to spanker boom tip, Wyoming was the largest known wooden ship ever built.[4]"

22 cubits is 32 feet and 13 cubits is 19 feet.

The Wyoming was beam 50 feet, and draught 30 feet.
So the Wyoming was bigger.

This is what the Bible says. Not what I made up.

So, it was 450 feet long.

300 cubits is 440 feet long. So it's 10 feet shorter than the Wyoming.

Using an 18-inch cubit, the Ark was three times the volume of the Wyoming (minus the Wyoming's bow sprit). This not counting the Wyoming's curved shape which reduces it's useful volume. Also not factored is the 'spanker' boom which would reduce the Wyoming's volume even more.

 

[braalian]

Doesn’t the fact that you have to do so many gyrations and jump through so many hoops to make the Ark story “work” tell you that it’s a myth/fable/parable/whatever?

 

[Woodznutz]

Doesn’t the fact that you have to do so many gyrations and jump through so many hoops to make the Ark story “work” tell you that it’s a myth/fable/parable/whatever?

Depends on how you interpret and embellish the story. After all it was largely a supernatural event. However, Noah's part was quite reasonable. He built a large watertight building over a period of one hundred years. God did the rest.

 

[braalian]

Depends on how you interpret and embellish the story. After all it was largely a supernatural event. However, Noah's part was quite reasonable. He built a large watertight building over a period of one hundred years. God did the rest.

Well, if your explanation is “it was a magical boat”, I guess there’s no point in discussing it at all

 

[Woodznutz]

Well, if your explanation is “it was a magical boat”, I guess there’s no point in discussing it at all

Most of the debate rests on whether a structure like the ark was capable of surviving a massive flood. Most who argue against this just want to argue.

 

[braalian]

Most of the debate rests on whether a structure like the ark was capable of surviving a massive flood. Most who argue against this just want to argue.

No, most of the debate centers around the absurdity of the idea of a boat that can hold two of every animal in earth and how they got to the boat in the first place