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This is not an either/or argument. My premise is that we are giving first world nations completely capable of supporting themselves $3.1B/yr...when WE have serious problems in this country which we cannot find the funds to deal with.You want to give Palestinians who treat their women as 2nd class citizens, imprison gays and bomb their Christian politicians, $3.1 billion dollars.That money is a great investment quite frankly. Not only does it go towards a close ally dealing with the threats there and spying efforts on U.S greatest enemies in the region, but, Israel uses that money to purchase U.S military weapons and gear. So ultimately, most of it will be back in the U.S.
Totally disagree.
But let's give the Palestinians $3.1 B foreign aid which they will use "to purchase U.S military weapons and gear"
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Time for you to move to the West Bank and read your Koran.
If Israel was in fact "our greatest ally" don't you think they would at least be paying their own bills?
It's a fucking scam and you brainwashed sheep cannot see it. Muh Israel...Freedumb.
If a nation must rely on Welfare to the tune of multiple billions a year it cannot be considered a First World Nation, only Third World Shit Holes get that type of mega Welfare.
Israel = First World Nation sucking blood like a leech from America to the tune of mega billions every year.
OR:
Israel = Third World Shit Hole needs mega billions in Welfare from America every year.
lol, right. So then what do you say to the 100's of thousands of good paying jobs you have shipped to Canada, and the many billions of activity and subsidizing your taxpayers have contributed to our socialism?
Globalism is complicated and tricky. No nation is entirely self sustainable, isolated, or without self interests in other parts of the globe.
I guess the relevant question would be what the 3.1 B is being used for... anybody know?
The 3.1 BILLION is being used so Israel can protect itself because you know the many hundreds of Nuclear Warheads it has AND the Nuclear Bomb it has just is NOT sufficient to protect itself.
Israel can kill a shitload of Palestinian and Hamas shitheads with that $3.1 billion.
I love it when my tax money goes to a good cause.
Yes but Israel is not an American State, you need that 3.1 billion for that wall to keep out Mexican bandits which is more important as that affects you DIRECTLY not what happens in some Shit Hole in the Middle East.
Waste of your tax money, Israel should be told to fund themselves or better still the WJC has enough money they shakedown more than 3 billion a year, they could give it to Israel.
Is it going to Israel to spend on their military or is it going to our troops and state department officials that are stationed there?I guess the relevant question would be what the 3.1 B is being used for... anybody know?
The 3.1 BILLION is being used so Israel can protect itself because you know the many hundreds of Nuclear Warheads it has AND the Nuclear Bomb it has just is NOT sufficient to protect itself.
Israel can kill a shitload of Palestinian and Hamas shitheads with that $3.1 billion.
I love it when my tax money goes to a good cause.
Yes but Israel is not an American State, you need that 3.1 billion for that wall to keep out Mexican bandits which is more important as that affects you DIRECTLY not what happens in some Shit Hole in the Middle East.
Waste of your tax money, Israel should be told to fund themselves or better still the WJC has enough money they shakedown more than 3 billion a year, they could give it to Israel.
Grow up! Israel is our best Democratic ally in one of the most violent areas of the world. Were we to abandon Israel, specifically who would fill the vacuum?
Not the same and you are intelligent enough to recognize that. Chinese citizen's upset with their countrie's direct investment in the US Bond Market and one first world nation gifting another and equivalent of 1% of that nation's GDP per year is another. As I provided example to earlier, true friends and allies are not bought (NATO/Asia Region). We are simply buying Israel's.Yeap...they sure do...you know who else does? UK...France...Germany...Canada..pretty much every NATO nation as well as Japan, Australia, New Zealand...and guess what...not a cent in direct aid. IMAGINE THAT?! How fucking novel."AIPAC applauds Congress for including key provisions to help Israel address critical security challenges in the Fiscal Year 2018 Omnibus Appropriations bill. The bill provides $3.1 billion in overall security assistance to Israel. The bill also includes the Taylor Force Act—bipartisan legislation that would eliminate funding that directly benefits the Palestinian Authority (PA) if it continues its abhorrent practice of paying salaries to terrorists or their families."The Omnibus Bill was signed yesterday and a couple of figures just popped out at me.
Israel Aid $3.1B
The Wall $1.6B
The US...Israel's bottom bitch.
As you were.
As long as the US quits donating to fund Palestinian terrorists, ok.
https://www.aipac.org/learn/resources/aipac-publications/publication?pubpath=PolicyPolitics/Press/AIPAC Statements/2018/04/Omnibus
Your dreams have come true Marion...the Palestinian Authority no longer receives the Benjamins.
Are you all behind cutting Israeli aid now?
This is not an either/or argument. My premise is that we are giving first world nations completely capable of supporting themselves $3.1B/yr...when WE have serious problems in this country which we cannot find the funds to deal with.You want to give Palestinians who treat their women as 2nd class citizens, imprison gays and bomb their Christian politicians, $3.1 billion dollars.
Time for you to move to the West Bank and read your Koran.
If Israel was in fact "our greatest ally" don't you think they would at least be paying their own bills?
It's a fucking scam and you brainwashed sheep cannot see it. Muh Israel...Freedumb.
If a nation must rely on Welfare to the tune of multiple billions a year it cannot be considered a First World Nation, only Third World Shit Holes get that type of mega Welfare.
Israel = First World Nation sucking blood like a leech from America to the tune of mega billions every year.
OR:
Israel = Third World Shit Hole needs mega billions in Welfare from America every year.
You guys do realize they share important technology with the US, no?
F'rinstance, the auto-vulcans the boys in Afghanistan use.If it moves, it's dead.
All nations have different relationships with each other. Israels is primarily strategic and even "spiritual", in regards to sharing Judeo-Christian views and a similar system, which is different from the rest of the region.
I am sure there are MANY Chinese citizens who bitch all the time as to why China buys billions of dollars in U.S T-Bills while they can't see the sun in the sky and have plenty of unpaved roads and mass poverty.
Israel can kill a shitload of Palestinian and Hamas shitheads with that $3.1 billion.
I love it when my tax money goes to a good cause.
Yes but Israel is not an American State, you need that 3.1 billion for that wall to keep out Mexican bandits which is more important as that affects you DIRECTLY not what happens in some Shit Hole in the Middle East.
Waste of your tax money, Israel should be told to fund themselves or better still the WJC has enough money they shakedown more than 3 billion a year, they could give it to Israel.
Grow up! Israel is our best Democratic ally in one of the most violent areas of the world. Were we to abandon Israel, specifically who would fill the vacuum?
Not the same and you are intelligent enough to recognize that. Chinese citizen's upset with their countrie's direct investment in the US Bond Market and one first world nation gifting another and equivalent of 1% of that nation's GDP per year is another. As I provided example to earlier, true friends and allies are not bought (NATO/Asia Region). We are simply buying Israel's.Yeap...they sure do...you know who else does? UK...France...Germany...Canada..pretty much every NATO nation as well as Japan, Australia, New Zealand...and guess what...not a cent in direct aid. IMAGINE THAT?! How fucking novel."AIPAC applauds Congress for including key provisions to help Israel address critical security challenges in the Fiscal Year 2018 Omnibus Appropriations bill. The bill provides $3.1 billion in overall security assistance to Israel. The bill also includes the Taylor Force Act—bipartisan legislation that would eliminate funding that directly benefits the Palestinian Authority (PA) if it continues its abhorrent practice of paying salaries to terrorists or their families."As long as the US quits donating to fund Palestinian terrorists, ok.
https://www.aipac.org/learn/resources/aipac-publications/publication?pubpath=PolicyPolitics/Press/AIPAC Statements/2018/04/Omnibus
Your dreams have come true Marion...the Palestinian Authority no longer receives the Benjamins.
Are you all behind cutting Israeli aid now?
This is not an either/or argument. My premise is that we are giving first world nations completely capable of supporting themselves $3.1B/yr...when WE have serious problems in this country which we cannot find the funds to deal with.
If Israel was in fact "our greatest ally" don't you think they would at least be paying their own bills?
It's a fucking scam and you brainwashed sheep cannot see it. Muh Israel...Freedumb.
If a nation must rely on Welfare to the tune of multiple billions a year it cannot be considered a First World Nation, only Third World Shit Holes get that type of mega Welfare.
Israel = First World Nation sucking blood like a leech from America to the tune of mega billions every year.
OR:
Israel = Third World Shit Hole needs mega billions in Welfare from America every year.
You guys do realize they share important technology with the US, no?
F'rinstance, the auto-vulcans the boys in Afghanistan use.
All nations have different relationships with each other. Israels is primarily strategic and even "spiritual", in regards to sharing Judeo-Christian views and a similar system, which is different from the rest of the region.
I am sure there are MANY Chinese citizens who bitch all the time as to why China buys billions of dollars in U.S T-Bills while they can't see the sun in the sky and have plenty of unpaved roads and mass poverty.
Israel is no more a friend than your tailor is when you pay for a suit adjustment. Pay for play.
I think Israel has a right to defend itself like EVERY nation has a right to defend itself, but like the majority of nations do Israel should fund it's own defence, it's time they grew up or were forced to grow up by America stopping the Welfare to them, I mean if America stopped the Welfare what are Israel going to do have a tantrum? Threaten to bomb America or whatever?
That is a VERY large part of it. The Dispensation Movement has really taken hold of the Christians in the US. They hold the belief that there is no separation between biblical scripture and the NATION of Israel. So, according to their doctrine, everything that Israel does is completely in line with Christian doctrine, foretells the second coming and is therefore condoned. This is why you see so many Israeli flags at these large 'Christian' rallies.Not the same and you are intelligent enough to recognize that. Chinese citizen's upset with their countrie's direct investment in the US Bond Market and one first world nation gifting another and equivalent of 1% of that nation's GDP per year is another. As I provided example to earlier, true friends and allies are not bought (NATO/Asia Region). We are simply buying Israel's.Yeap...they sure do...you know who else does? UK...France...Germany...Canada..pretty much every NATO nation as well as Japan, Australia, New Zealand...and guess what...not a cent in direct aid. IMAGINE THAT?! How fucking novel."AIPAC applauds Congress for including key provisions to help Israel address critical security challenges in the Fiscal Year 2018 Omnibus Appropriations bill. The bill provides $3.1 billion in overall security assistance to Israel. The bill also includes the Taylor Force Act—bipartisan legislation that would eliminate funding that directly benefits the Palestinian Authority (PA) if it continues its abhorrent practice of paying salaries to terrorists or their families."
https://www.aipac.org/learn/resources/aipac-publications/publication?pubpath=PolicyPolitics/Press/AIPAC Statements/2018/04/Omnibus
Your dreams have come true Marion...the Palestinian Authority no longer receives the Benjamins.
Are you all behind cutting Israeli aid now?
If a nation must rely on Welfare to the tune of multiple billions a year it cannot be considered a First World Nation, only Third World Shit Holes get that type of mega Welfare.
Israel = First World Nation sucking blood like a leech from America to the tune of mega billions every year.
OR:
Israel = Third World Shit Hole needs mega billions in Welfare from America every year.
You guys do realize they share important technology with the US, no?
F'rinstance, the auto-vulcans the boys in Afghanistan use.
All nations have different relationships with each other. Israels is primarily strategic and even "spiritual", in regards to sharing Judeo-Christian views and a similar system, which is different from the rest of the region.
I am sure there are MANY Chinese citizens who bitch all the time as to why China buys billions of dollars in U.S T-Bills while they can't see the sun in the sky and have plenty of unpaved roads and mass poverty.
Israel is no more a friend than your tailor is when you pay for a suit adjustment. Pay for play.
Maybe some of this Crowd are these End Timers, you know they support them because of The Book of Revelation and the whole Armageddon thing and want the SHTF so they can be Raptured or whatever, who knows. I know in America a lot of the Evangelicals support them for this reason, which is pretty insane IMHO.
Name one NATO nation that we give direct foreign aid to and I will tell you that this nation should be banned from the organization. Further, there is no official agreement per the NATO treaty which requires any nation to allocate 2% of GDP toward national defense. This is a handshake agreement alone. Are we funding the lion's share of NATO? Yes. Is it correct? No. Should we compel member nations to allocate more? Certainly so. However...your argument is ultimately an apples and oranges one.I think Israel has a right to defend itself like EVERY nation has a right to defend itself, but like the majority of nations do Israel should fund it's own defence, it's time they grew up or were forced to grow up by America stopping the Welfare to them, I mean if America stopped the Welfare what are Israel going to do have a tantrum? Threaten to bomb America or whatever?
Have you heard of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO)?
No, the majority of nations do NOT totally fund their own defense.
The question is who would fill the vacuum if we abandoned, Isreal and all our other allies?
I think Israel has a right to defend itself like EVERY nation has a right to defend itself, but like the majority of nations do Israel should fund it's own defence, it's time they grew up or were forced to grow up by America stopping the Welfare to them, I mean if America stopped the Welfare what are Israel going to do have a tantrum? Threaten to bomb America or whatever?
Have you heard of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO)?
No, the majority of nations do NOT totally fund their own defense.
The question is who would fill the vacuum if we abandoned, Isreal and all our other allies?
I think Israel has a right to defend itself like EVERY nation has a right to defend itself, but like the majority of nations do Israel should fund it's own defence, it's time they grew up or were forced to grow up by America stopping the Welfare to them, I mean if America stopped the Welfare what are Israel going to do have a tantrum? Threaten to bomb America or whatever?
Have you heard of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO)?
No, the majority of nations do NOT totally fund their own defense.
The question is who would fill the vacuum if we abandoned, Isreal and all our other allies?
The Omnibus Bill was signed yesterday and a couple of figures just popped out at me.
Israel Aid $3.1B
The Wall $1.6B
The US...Israel's bottom bitch.
As you were.
Fun Facts re how American 'Aid' works, and not just for Israel, but everybody else on the planet.
Of the military financial aid Israel receives, it is obligated to spend all but 26.3% of it in the US, something that is not expected to change under the new framework.
Reported details emerge on aid package to Israel from Obama administration
They also provide intelligence and police and defense services worth a lot more than $3.1 Billion for us in the region as well, including storage depots, maintenance capabilities for our aircraft, AWACs type early warning services over the entire region. It's a very good deal for us.
Also note the current Bill is some $700 million less than the original, under Obama.
"AIPAC applauds Congress for including key provisions to help Israel address critical security challenges in the Fiscal Year 2018 Omnibus Appropriations bill. The bill provides $3.1 billion in overall security assistance to Israel. The bill also includes the Taylor Force Act—bipartisan legislation that would eliminate funding that directly benefits the Palestinian Authority (PA) if it continues its abhorrent practice of paying salaries to terrorists or their families."The Omnibus Bill was signed yesterday and a couple of figures just popped out at me.
Israel Aid $3.1B
The Wall $1.6B
The US...Israel's bottom bitch.
As you were.
As long as the US quits donating to fund Palestinian terrorists, ok.
https://www.aipac.org/learn/resources/aipac-publications/publication?pubpath=PolicyPolitics/Press/AIPAC Statements/2018/04/Omnibus
Your dreams have come true Marion...the Palestinian Authority no longer receives the Benjamins.
Are you all behind cutting Israeli aid now?
"AIPAC applauds Congress for including key provisions to help Israel address critical security challenges in the Fiscal Year 2018 Omnibus Appropriations bill. The bill provides $3.1 billion in overall security assistance to Israel. The bill also includes the Taylor Force Act—bipartisan legislation that would eliminate funding that directly benefits the Palestinian Authority (PA) if it continues its abhorrent practice of paying salaries to terrorists or their families."The Omnibus Bill was signed yesterday and a couple of figures just popped out at me.
Israel Aid $3.1B
The Wall $1.6B
The US...Israel's bottom bitch.
As you were.
As long as the US quits donating to fund Palestinian terrorists, ok.
https://www.aipac.org/learn/resources/aipac-publications/publication?pubpath=PolicyPolitics/Press/AIPAC Statements/2018/04/Omnibus
Your dreams have come true Marion...the Palestinian Authority no longer receives the Benjamins.
Are you all behind cutting Israeli aid now?
You're complaining about Islamo-vermin terrorists getting defunded?
All the weird sniveling about imaginary freebies to Israel is always hilarious.
The Omnibus Bill was signed yesterday and a couple of figures just popped out at me.
Israel Aid $3.1B
The Wall $1.6B
The US...Israel's bottom bitch.
As you were.
Fun Facts re how American 'Aid' works, and not just for Israel, but everybody else on the planet.
Of the military financial aid Israel receives, it is obligated to spend all but 26.3% of it in the US, something that is not expected to change under the new framework.
Reported details emerge on aid package to Israel from Obama administration
They also provide intelligence and police and defense services worth a lot more than $3.1 Billion for us in the region as well, including storage depots, maintenance capabilities for our aircraft, AWACs type early warning services over the entire region. It's a very good deal for us.
Also note the current Bill is some $700 million less than the original, under Obama.
For the record I am against Western nations also giving all this aid to other nations, for example I see no reason why Western nations are giving aid to India, China etc
If you had a modicum of reading comprehension you would see that I was answering a poster's (Marion) question. I have personally initiated no statement regarding the Palestinians. The Palestinians are Israel's problem, not the United State's."AIPAC applauds Congress for including key provisions to help Israel address critical security challenges in the Fiscal Year 2018 Omnibus Appropriations bill. The bill provides $3.1 billion in overall security assistance to Israel. The bill also includes the Taylor Force Act—bipartisan legislation that would eliminate funding that directly benefits the Palestinian Authority (PA) if it continues its abhorrent practice of paying salaries to terrorists or their families."The Omnibus Bill was signed yesterday and a couple of figures just popped out at me.
Israel Aid $3.1B
The Wall $1.6B
The US...Israel's bottom bitch.
As you were.
As long as the US quits donating to fund Palestinian terrorists, ok.
https://www.aipac.org/learn/resources/aipac-publications/publication?pubpath=PolicyPolitics/Press/AIPAC Statements/2018/04/Omnibus
Your dreams have come true Marion...the Palestinian Authority no longer receives the Benjamins.
Are you all behind cutting Israeli aid now?
You're complaining about Islamo-vermin terrorists getting defunded?
All the weird sniveling about imaginary freebies to Israel is always hilarious.
The Omnibus Bill was signed yesterday and a couple of figures just popped out at me.
Israel Aid $3.1B
The Wall $1.6B
The US...Israel's bottom bitch.
As you were.
Fun Facts re how American 'Aid' works, and not just for Israel, but everybody else on the planet.
Of the military financial aid Israel receives, it is obligated to spend all but 26.3% of it in the US, something that is not expected to change under the new framework.
Reported details emerge on aid package to Israel from Obama administration
They also provide intelligence and police and defense services worth a lot more than $3.1 Billion for us in the region as well, including storage depots, maintenance capabilities for our aircraft, AWACs type early warning services over the entire region. It's a very good deal for us.
Also note the current Bill is some $700 million less than the original, under Obama.
For the record I am against Western nations also giving all this aid to other nations, for example I see no reason why Western nations are giving aid to India, China etc
For one, we get to find out how well our equipment works in the field, without suffering any losses of our own. Iron Dome tech comes to mind here, re Syria, Hexbollah, etc. I can go on, but then it's just about good old fashioned antisemitism for Euros, so no need to waste time on facts.
"AIPAC applauds Congress for including key provisions to help Israel address critical security challenges in the Fiscal Year 2018 Omnibus Appropriations bill. The bill provides $3.1 billion in overall security assistance to Israel. The bill also includes the Taylor Force Act—bipartisan legislation that would eliminate funding that directly benefits the Palestinian Authority (PA) if it continues its abhorrent practice of paying salaries to terrorists or their families."The Omnibus Bill was signed yesterday and a couple of figures just popped out at me.
Israel Aid $3.1B
The Wall $1.6B
The US...Israel's bottom bitch.
As you were.
As long as the US quits donating to fund Palestinian terrorists, ok.
https://www.aipac.org/learn/resources/aipac-publications/publication?pubpath=PolicyPolitics/Press/AIPAC Statements/2018/04/Omnibus
Your dreams have come true Marion...the Palestinian Authority no longer receives the Benjamins.
Are you all behind cutting Israeli aid now?
You're complaining about Islamo-vermin terrorists getting defunded?
All the weird sniveling about imaginary freebies to Israel is always hilarious.
How picaro is 3.1BILLION an imaginary freebie? It's in there in that bill so it's not imaginary is it?
