Now on your restaurant bill: Obamacare fee

[Defiant1]

Great idea. They should list all the costs of the business on the bill. The one to keep the rats away is several times that I bet. Let's find out eh?

No they shouldn't list all of their costs on the bill. That's ludicrous.

The same as adding an ObamaCare charge. In business we just adjust the prices, we don't try to play politics.

If my costs go up, your price goes up. It's pretty simple.

Businesses having been adding fuel surcharges for years.

You don't think that's political?

 

[Moonglow]

The Supreme Court said that obamacare was legal as a tax. If you look at your bill, anyplace, you will see taxes listed separately from the bill. This is so that taxes are not considered profit or income to the business and the server does not pay taxes on the income derived from the dollar amount of the bill. You know that tips are considered taxable right? How do you think a tip is determined? By the size of the bill exclusive of taxes. If you leave a 10% tip and the tax is based on a 15%, you are already shortchanging the server unless you write the amount of the tip on the receipt itself.

We can all thank Reagan for that gem of a tax..

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Meanwhile, in Los Angeles, an upscale restaurant is also asking guests to pony up for its employee health care costs.

Since it opened in November, Republique's tab comes with an optional 3% surcharge that allows it to employ all of its 80 workers full-time and provide them with health insurance. The fee is explained in a sign and on the menu, and servers explain it to diners without prompting.

The surcharge is not related to Obamacare, a restaurant spokeswoman said. The eatery is not subject to the employer mandate until 2016 because it has fewer than 100 workers, but it already offers coverage to its staff.

Good marketing in Liberal land. We like things like that.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Politics and religion are two things best kept out of a business.

Yep, two things I never discuss with my clients.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

No they shouldn't list all of their costs on the bill. That's ludicrous.

The same as adding an ObamaCare charge. In business we just adjust the prices, we don't try to play politics.

If my costs go up, your price goes up. It's pretty simple.

Businesses having been adding fuel surcharges for years.

You don't think that's political?

Nope. And we all know how the gas price jumps around.

 

[Sunshine]

Politics and religion are two things best kept out of a business.

State taxes are listed on the bill.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The Supreme Court said that obamacare was legal as a tax. If you look at your bill, anyplace, you will see taxes listed separately from the bill. This is so that taxes are not considered profit or income to the business and the server does not pay taxes on the income derived from the dollar amount of the bill. You know that tips are considered taxable right? How do you think a tip is determined? By the size of the bill exclusive of taxes. If you leave a 10% tip and the tax is based on a 15%, you are already shortchanging the server unless you write the amount of the tip on the receipt itself.

I've never seen a restaurant's property tax costs on a bill. I've never seen the employer's share of payroll taxes to its employees on a bill.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Awwww you mean people don't want to pay for someone else's health care!

If you don't want to pay the fee, don't go to a restaurant. It's not new by the way, San Francisco added a surcharge on restaurant bills in 2008, and some dishonest employers have kept the extra revenue.

While government can be incompetent, never forget that the private sector can be both incompetent and dishonest.

See:

San Francisco Restaurants' Surcharges for Healthy SF Defraud Consumers, Grand Jury Says

But govt is incompetent and dishonest all of the time. How do employers in SF keep the extra revenue? Is it some type of voluntary tax?

Read the link.

 

[RKMBrown]

Awwww you mean people don't want to pay for someone else's health care!

If you don't want to pay the fee, don't go to a restaurant. It's not new by the way, San Francisco added a surcharge on restaurant bills in 2008, and some dishonest employers have kept the extra revenue.

While government can be incompetent, never forget that the private sector can be both incompetent and dishonest.

See:

San Francisco Restaurants' Surcharges for Healthy SF Defraud Consumers, Grand Jury Says

While the private sector can be both incompetent and dishonest, never forget the that government sector can be incompetent, dishonest, enslave your ass, and kill you without a trial.

 

[RKMBrown]

I love it... I like the idea of showing the hidden federal taxes on the bill. Would be cool if everyone did that all the way up the food chain. Hidden taxes should be exposed.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Did these restaurants put the Obama payroll tax cut on their bills, and lower them accordingly?

 

[kidrocks]

Awwww you mean people don't want to pay for someone else's health care!

If you don't want to pay the fee, don't go to a restaurant. It's not new by the way, San Francisco added a surcharge on restaurant bills in 2008, and some dishonest employers have kept the extra revenue.

While government can be incompetent, never forget that the private sector can be both incompetent and dishonest.

See:

San Francisco Restaurants' Surcharges for Healthy SF Defraud Consumers, Grand Jury Says

While the private sector can be both incompetent and dishonest, never forget the that government sector can be incompetent, dishonest, enslave your ass, and kill you without a trial.

Kill you without a trial? LOL... that is funny.

 

[Mac1958]

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Standard apologist responses to all ACA problems and costs:

Tough shit.

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[NYcarbineer]

Awwww you mean people don't want to pay for someone else's health care!

Like your Medicare, granny?

 

[RKMBrown]

Did these restaurants put the Obama payroll tax cut on their bills, and lower them accordingly?

That would be dumb.

 

[NYcarbineer]

So weren't businesses like this supposed to be crushed by Obamacare? Isn't that a fair characterization of what we've been hearing ad nauseum from the hysterical rightwing propaganda machine?

But the reality is that in order to 'cope' with Obamacare, these places simply had to charge $15.15 for a $15.00 meal?

And now their employees have health insurance?

This is what the Obamacare haters have been reduced to? Throwing a fit over this? lolol

 

[NYcarbineer]

Did these restaurants put the Obama payroll tax cut on their bills, and lower them accordingly?

That would be dumb.

Why? If it's fair to pass on a tax increase, why then isn't it fair to pass on a tax cut?

Other than hypocritical greed, why?

 

[RKMBrown]

Did these restaurants put the Obama payroll tax cut on their bills, and lower them accordingly?

That would be dumb.

Why? If it's fair to pass on a tax increase, why then isn't it fair to pass on a tax cut?

Other than hypocritical greed, why?

Because the person purchasing the meal already knows the money not going to taxes is going to the restaurant.

Now if you had said the restaurant should have shown how much of the bill is going to taxes itemized by type, I would agree with ya. Why not have a little truth in billing here.

Additionally, I thought the payroll tax cut was on the employee side of SS, not the employer side. Am I wrong?