Now Watergate does not bother me. Does your conscience bother you?

[CrusaderFrank]

I remember Watergate like it was yesterday. It was a constant 24/7/365 LMSM Soviet artillery barrage directed against Richard M. Nixon, himself a man with many Progressive tendencies. The NYTimes or WaPost would have some part of it on Page 1 right hand column everyday. That night the LMSM TV networks would parrot back whatever the NYT and WaPost had on the cover.

The charges were serious (LOL). There was a break-in to the hotel, some copies of the Communist Manifest and Rules for Radicals were missing! There was an investigation! There was a source inside the White House feeding information to the Washington Post.

The President of the United States had apparently LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

At the same time, Nixon was killing Communists in Vietnam AND CAMBODIA!!! ZOMG!! Was that legal???

The US Senate was going to IMPEACH

So Nixon resigned (in disgrace -- whatever that means)

This was when I first saw the "American" Left in action. They attacked Nixon with a vigor not seen since their Soviet forefathers retook Stalingrad from their German forefathers. At the height of the "scandal" Lynard Skynard sang,

Now Watergate does not bother me. Does your conscience bother you?

And it turns out to be prophetic.

Even at the time I never thought much about the "Scandal". Nixon himself had no culpability, so what? Presidents lied?! Eeek! But that's what the Liberal "Intellectuals (you've met them here at USMB, are you impressed with their intellect?) told us was unacceptable from a sitting President

Look at Watergate compared to what Obama's done on a daily basis: he's used the IRS against his political enemies, he spies on EVERYONE, he's an accessory to the murder of Brian Terry, he's committed first degree murder with the use of drones against US Citizens overseas. I mean, Nixon lied!? Yeah?

Nixon's biggest mistake was not lying, but compared to how Obama operates today, Nixon's mistake was probably not having that rat fuck John Dean and Deep Throat iced.

 

[g5000]

The President broke the law. He was on tape ordering the obstruction of justice. After that, not even the Republicans could defend him any more and were going to join the impeachment bandwagon. The jig was up, and so he resigned to avoid the impeachment.

There was also other serious crimes committed by his cronies. They went to prison.

Apparently you missed that part of the 24/7/365 coverage you claim you remember like it was yesterday. How odd...

 

[Rotagilla]

Most of these know it alls weren't even alive then.

obama makes nixon's "crimes" look like a child at the playground.

 

[g5000]

Most of these know it alls weren't even alive then.

obama makes nixon's "crimes" look like a child at the playground.

Only a complete ignoramus hack who knows nothing about Nixon and his cronies would think so.

 

[g5000]

"When the President does it, that means it is not illegal."

 

[Rotagilla]

Most of these know it alls weren't even alive then.

obama makes nixon's "crimes" look like a child at the playground.

Only a complete ignoramus hack who knows nothing about Nixon and his cronies would think so.

sure..sure..whatever you say, scooter.

 

[francoHFW]

#3- ^^You are out of your brainwashed little mind- Nixon was a criminal who ruined people's lives and subverted the constitution. Dems' consciences don't bother because we've done nothing wrong. Pubs' don't because they're idiotic, greedy, ignorant a-holes, dupes because they're on another planet.

 

[g5000]

Here is what the real thing looks like, just so you know the difference. Unequivocal evidence Nixon obstructed justice: [URL='http://watergate.info/1972/06/23/the-smoking-gun-tape.html']The Smoking Gun




Haldeman: Now, on the investigation, you know, the Democratic break-in thing, we’re back to the-in the, the problem area because the FBI is not under control, because Gray doesn’t exactly know how to control them, and they have, their investigation is now leading into some productive areas, because they’ve been able to trace the money, not through the money itself, but through the bank, you know, sources – the banker himself. And, and it goes in some directions we don’t want it to go. Ah, also there have been some things, like an informant came in off the street to the FBI in Miami, who was a photographer or has a friend who is a photographer who developed some films through this guy, Barker, and the films had pictures of Democratic National Committee letter head documents and things. So I guess, so it’s things like that that are gonna, that are filtering in. Mitchell came up with yesterday, and John Dean analyzed very carefully last night and concludes, concurs now with Mitchell’s recommendation that the only way to solve this, and we’re set up beautifully to do it, ah, in that and that…the only network that paid any attention to it last night was NBC…they did a massive story on the Cuban…

Nixon: That’s right.

Haldeman: thing.

Nixon: Right.

Haldeman: That the way to handle this now is for us to have Walters call Pat Gray and just say, “Stay the hell out of this…this is ah, business here we don’t want you to go any further on it.” That’s not an unusual development,…

Nixon: Um huh.

Haldeman: …and, uh, that would take care of it.

Nixon: What about Pat Gray, ah, you mean he doesn’t want to?

Haldeman: Pat does want to. He doesn’t know how to, and he doesn’t have, he doesn’t have any basis for doing it. Given this, he will then have the basis. He’ll call Mark Felt in, and the two of them …and Mark Felt wants to cooperate because…

Nixon: Yeah.

Haldeman: he’s ambitious…

Nixon: Yeah.

Haldeman: Ah, he’ll call him in and say, “We’ve got the signal from across the river to, to put the hold on this.” And that will fit rather well because the FBI agents who are working the case, at this point, feel that’s what it is. This is CIA.

Nixon: But they’ve traced the money to ‘em.

Haldeman: Well they have, they’ve traced to a name, but they haven’t gotten to the guy yet.

Nixon: Would it be somebody here?

Haldeman: Ken Dahlberg.

Nixon: Who the hell is Ken Dahlberg?

Haldeman: He’s ah, he gave $25,000 in Minnesota and ah, the check went directly in to this, to this guy Barker.

Nixon: Maybe he’s a …bum.

Nixon: He didn’t get this from the committee though, from Stans.

Haldeman: Yeah. It is. It is. It’s directly traceable and there’s some more through some Texas people in–that went to the Mexican bank which they can also trace to the Mexican bank…they’ll get their names today. And (pause)

Nixon: Well, I mean, ah, there’s no way… I’m just thinking if they don’t cooperate, what do they say? They they, they were approached by the Cubans. That’s what Dahlberg has to say, the Texans too. Is that the idea?

Haldeman: Well, if they will. But then we’re relying on more and more people all the time. That’s the problem. And ah, they’ll stop if we could, if we take this other step.

Nixon: All right. Fine.

Haldeman: And, and they seem to feel the thing to do is get them to stop?

Nixon: Right, fine.

Haldeman: They say the only way to do that is from White House instructions. And it’s got to be to Helms and, ah, what’s his name…? Walters.

Nixon: Walters.

Haldeman: And the proposal would be that Ehrlichman (coughs) and I call them in

Nixon: All right, fine.

Haldeman: and say, ah…

Nixon: How do you call him in, I mean you just, well, we protected Helms from one hell of a lot of things.

Haldeman: That’s what Ehrlichman says.

Nixon: Of course, this is a, this is a Hunt, you will-that will uncover a lot of things. You open that scab there’s a hell of a lot of things and that we just feel that it would be very detrimental to have this thing go any further.This involves these Cubans, Hunt, and a lot of hanky-panky that we have nothing to do with ourselves. Well what the hell, did Mitchell know about this thing to any much of a degree.

Haldeman: I think so. I don ‘t think he knew the details, but I think he knew.

Nixon: He didn’t know how it was going to be handled though, with Dahlberg and the Texans and so forth? Well who was the asshole that did? (Unintelligible) Is it Liddy? Is that the fellow? He must be a little nuts.

Haldeman: He is.

Nixon: I mean he just isn’t well screwed on is he? Isn’t that the problem?

Haldeman: No, but he was under pressure, apparently, to get more information, and as he got more pressure, he pushed the people harder to move harder on…

Nixon: Pressure from Mitchell?

Haldeman: Apparently.

Nixon: Oh, Mitchell, Mitchell was at the point that you made on this, that exactly what I need from you is on the–

Haldeman: Gemstone, yeah.

Nixon: All right, fine, I understand it all. We won’t second-guess Mitchell and the rest. Thank God it wasn’t Colson.

Haldeman: The FBI interviewed Colson yesterday. They determined that would be a good thing to do.

Nixon: Um hum.

Haldeman: Ah, to have him take a…

Nixon: Um hum.

Haldeman: An interrogation, which he did, and that, the FBI guys working the case had concluded that there were one or two possibilities, one, that this was a White House, they don’t think that there is anything at the Election Committee, they think it was either a White House operation and they had some obscure reasons for it, non political,…

Nixon: Uh huh.

Haldeman: or it was a…

Nixon: Cuban thing-

Haldeman: Cubans and the CIA. And after their interrogation of, of…

Nixon: Colson.

Haldeman: Colson, yesterday, they concluded it was not the White House, but are now convinced it is a CIA thing, so the CIA turn off would…

Nixon: Well, not sure of their analysis, I’m not going to get that involved. I’m (unintelligible).

Haldeman: No, sir. We don’t want you to.

Nixon: You call them in.

Nixon: Good. Good deal! Play it tough. That’s the way they play it and that’s the way we are going to play it.

Haldeman: O.K. We’ll do it.

Nixon: Yeah, when I saw that news summary item, I of course knew it was a bunch of crap, but I thought ah, well it’s good to have them off on this wild hair thing because when they start bugging us, which they have, we’ll know our little boys will not know how to handle it. I hope they will though. You never know. Maybe, you think about it. Good![/URL]

 

[Rotagilla]

#3- ^^You are out of your brainwashed little mind- Nixon was a criminal who ruined people's lives and subverted the constitution. Dems' consciences don't bother because we've done nothing wrong. Pubs' don't because they're idiotic, greedy, ignorant a-holes, dupes because they're on another planet.

LMAO...hyperpartisans say the cutest things!

 

[JT8691]

2 wrongs don't make a right. What Nixon did was unacceptable, regardless of what unacceptable things presidents would do later. Ps: it's lynyrd skynyrd.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The President broke the law. He was on tape ordering the obstruction of justice. After that, not even the Republicans could defend him any more and were going to join the impeachment bandwagon. The jig was up, and so he resigned to avoid the impeachment.

There was also other serious crimes committed by his cronies. They went to prison.

Apparently you missed that part of the 24/7/365 coverage you claim you remember like it was yesterday. How odd...

Like I said, Watergate only made into a big deal by the 24/7/365 LMSM Soviet Artillery Coverage Barrage

 

[Rotagilla]

2 wrongs don't make a right. What Nixon did was unacceptable, regardless of what unacceptable things presidents would do later. Ps: it's lynyrd skynyrd.

Precisely.
They always revert to the "well bush/nixon/reagan did it"...as if misconduct in the past is a valid reason for misconduct today.

but it's more fun for them to call people names and disparage others than to think rationally.

 

[bendog]

Imo the interesting part is the imperial presidency quote: when the potus does it, it's not illegal.

Context of April 6 1977 Nixon 8216 If the President Does It That Means It 8217 s Not Illegal 8217
As Dahlberg said, "never has it been more poorly stated."

In time of war, we've generally assumed that the Potus may act extra-constitutionally to preserve the union. Lincoln and habeas corpus. FDR did much the same. Presidential power expanded throughout the cold war. Nobody ever mentioned the "I" word.

The thing that mystified even Goldwater and the gop was why would Nixon break into the dems HQ. It wasn't so much the Pentagon papers, or warrantless spying on anti-Vietnam war groups. But it was the judgment thing. It just screamed paranoia. And then Nixon was in the coverup ... and it was obstruction of justice plain and simple. And that was where Felt/Deepthroat came in. Nobody ever understood why Nixon didn't just do the mea culpa and say "some in my campaign became overly engaged, and I failed to properly reign them in ....." Sure there'd be the money revelations, but nobdy wanted to go there.

 

[g5000]

The President broke the law. He was on tape ordering the obstruction of justice. After that, not even the Republicans could defend him any more and were going to join the impeachment bandwagon. The jig was up, and so he resigned to avoid the impeachment.

There was also other serious crimes committed by his cronies. They went to prison.

Apparently you missed that part of the 24/7/365 coverage you claim you remember like it was yesterday. How odd...

Like I said, Watergate only made into a big deal by the 24/7/365 LMSM Soviet Artillery Coverage Barrage

When the President and the men around him are acting like organized criminals, that's news. Did you want it swept under the rug?

Is there a day that goes by when Fox News or any of the other hack right wing partisan media outlets aren't moaning and sweaty over the White House "scandals"?

You can't hardly bitch about wall-to-wall coverage considering the hysterics Fox News and the Daily Pisser and the Washington Times have over Benghazi.

Or, if you are looking for a parallel, the IRS scandal. See, in your fevered minds you imagine Obama ordering the IRS to break the law. What you fail to see is that Nixon actually did order a crime to be committed, and it was on tape.

You WISH Obama ordered a crime, and so you BELIEVE he did. With absolutely no evidence he did so, despite more than a year of balls-to-the-wall investigation by all your favorite media piss outlets and Congressmen.

Huge difference.

 

[Rotagilla]

The President broke the law. He was on tape ordering the obstruction of justice. After that, not even the Republicans could defend him any more and were going to join the impeachment bandwagon. The jig was up, and so he resigned to avoid the impeachment.

There was also other serious crimes committed by his cronies. They went to prison.

Apparently you missed that part of the 24/7/365 coverage you claim you remember like it was yesterday. How odd...

Like I said, Watergate only made into a big deal by the 24/7/365 LMSM Soviet Artillery Coverage Barrage

When the President and the men around him are acting like organized criminals, that's news. Did you want it swept under the rug?

And you can't hardly bitch about wall-to-wall coverage considering the hysterics Fox News and the Daily Pisser and the Washington Times have over Benghazi.

Or, if you are looking for a parallel, the IRS scandal. See, in your fevered minds you imagine Obama ordering the IRS to break the law. What you fail to see is that Nixon actually did order a crime to be committed, and it was on tape.

You WISH Obama ordered a crime, and so you BELIEVE he did.

Huge difference.

hyperpartisan doubletalk

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The President broke the law. He was on tape ordering the obstruction of justice. After that, not even the Republicans could defend him any more and were going to join the impeachment bandwagon. The jig was up, and so he resigned to avoid the impeachment.

There was also other serious crimes committed by his cronies. They went to prison.

Apparently you missed that part of the 24/7/365 coverage you claim you remember like it was yesterday. How odd...

Like I said, Watergate only made into a big deal by the 24/7/365 LMSM Soviet Artillery Coverage Barrage

When the President and the men around him are acting like organized criminals, that's news. Did you want it swept under the rug?

And you can't hardly bitch about wall-to-wall coverage considering the hysterics Fox News and the Daily Pisser and the Washington Times have over Benghazi.

Serious crimes = LOLz

Watergate was a fucking joke, the "cover up" was a bigger joke

FDR Rounded up and interred Japanese Americans

FDR injected otherwise healthy black male with syphilis and withheld the cure.

What did Nixon do again?

 

[rightwinger]

You must be from Alabama

 

[g5000]

The President broke the law. He was on tape ordering the obstruction of justice. After that, not even the Republicans could defend him any more and were going to join the impeachment bandwagon. The jig was up, and so he resigned to avoid the impeachment.

There was also other serious crimes committed by his cronies. They went to prison.

Apparently you missed that part of the 24/7/365 coverage you claim you remember like it was yesterday. How odd...

Like I said, Watergate only made into a big deal by the 24/7/365 LMSM Soviet Artillery Coverage Barrage

When the President and the men around him are acting like organized criminals, that's news. Did you want it swept under the rug?

And you can't hardly bitch about wall-to-wall coverage considering the hysterics Fox News and the Daily Pisser and the Washington Times have over Benghazi.

Or, if you are looking for a parallel, the IRS scandal. See, in your fevered minds you imagine Obama ordering the IRS to break the law. What you fail to see is that Nixon actually did order a crime to be committed, and it was on tape.

You WISH Obama ordered a crime, and so you BELIEVE he did.

Huge difference.

hyperpartisan doubletalk

Translation: You got nothing.

 

[g5000]

The President broke the law. He was on tape ordering the obstruction of justice. After that, not even the Republicans could defend him any more and were going to join the impeachment bandwagon. The jig was up, and so he resigned to avoid the impeachment.

There was also other serious crimes committed by his cronies. They went to prison.

Apparently you missed that part of the 24/7/365 coverage you claim you remember like it was yesterday. How odd...

Like I said, Watergate only made into a big deal by the 24/7/365 LMSM Soviet Artillery Coverage Barrage

When the President and the men around him are acting like organized criminals, that's news. Did you want it swept under the rug?

And you can't hardly bitch about wall-to-wall coverage considering the hysterics Fox News and the Daily Pisser and the Washington Times have over Benghazi.

Serious crimes = LOLz

Watergate was a fucking joke, the "cover up" was a bigger joke

FDR Rounded up and interred Japanese Americans

FDR injected otherwise healthy black male with syphilis and withheld the cure.

What did Nixon do again?

I see. Now that you have been tackled behind the line of scrimmage for trying to equate Obama to Nixon, you are going to punt and compare Nixon to FDR.

 

[g5000]

Look at Watergate compared to what Obama's done on a daily basis: he's used the IRS against his political enemies

Ipse dixit. No evidence exists for this assertion. At all.

You WISH this claim was true, so you BELIEVE it is true.

For Nixon, we actually have hard evidence he ordered justice to be obstructed.

Huge difference.