Now with the Colorado ruling saying that religion can override public accommodation laws

[dblack]

Why not? Who is to say what is a deeply held belief and what is not?

Big daddy government, of course.

 

[USAF 2023]

Oh really, why is that? Are you saying gay marriage is even worse than slavery? Does my comparison soil the good name of slavery?

Show me where I said that Gay Marriage is worse then slavery

 

[Rigby5]

303 Creative is not a corporation. It is an LLC, meaning a Limited Liability Company.

But yes. Corporations are people and have always been people.

Are Corporations People?

During the Obama years, the American left has repeatedly insisted that "corporations are not people," and that assertions about the freedom of speech or of religion with regard to corporations are incoherent and dishonest. But that is not how our leg...

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LLC may stand for "Limited Liability Company", but it most certainly IS a corporation.
When you apply, the form, fee, legal ramifications, etc. are all for creating a corporation.
And no, the whole point of incorporating is to remove the personalization, so LLC are not at all people.
That is the reason why the Citizens United ruling is so very wrong, and how it allows foreign money to incorrectly influence US elections now.
Since corporations are huge, multi national, etc., they are the greatest danger the world has ever faced in terms of attacking individual rights and freedom.
Anyone who does not get that, has to have their head in the sand, or being paid off by a corporation.

 

[Marener]

Common sense should be used. You can't make up a religious belief as an excuse to not do something. Same-sex marriage is not exclusively against Christian beliefs.

The case is about first amendment protected speech, not religion.

 

[BS Filter]

Why not? Who is to say what is a deeply held belief and what is not?

An intelligent person.

 

[BS Filter]

The case is about first amendment protected speech, not religion.

They're both in the First Amendment.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Big daddy government, of course.

The whole thing is just one huge contradiction...

According to the SCOTUS a baker cannot be forced to make a cake for someone they do not wish to do so, but this same baker can be forced to give an employee time off or other accommodations that the baker does not wish to give.

 

[Marener]

They're both in the First Amendment.

Take it up with Gorsuch who wrote the opinion.

All religious beliefs are made up.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

An intelligent person.

So, you are left out of the equation.

Got it.

Thanks, have a nice day

 

[Stormy Daniels]

If the web designer felt funny about listing the name of the 2 getting married, they could have just used placeholders, and told them what file to edit in order to change the names.

And this goes exactly to the heart of the distinction that failed to be recognized in this case--design versus content. I think some people in this thread sincerely don't understand this difference, but I think most are being willfully stupid.

Nevertheless, the law cannot be viewed as compelling the designer to engage in certain speech because only CONTENT can constitute a wedding website as being a gay wedding website. A graphic designer can design a wedding website without creating content. As long as the graphic designer is not being obligated to create actual content, then there is no implication upon free speech rights.

 

[Marener]

The whole thing is just one huge contradiction...

According to the SCOTUS a baker cannot be forced to make a cake for someone they do not wish to do so, but this same baker can be forced to give an employee time off or other accommodations that the baker does not wish to give.

A school teacher can’t be fired for publicly leading students in prayer during school time but can be fired for saying gay people exist.

Religion over everything else.

 

[Rigby5]

What happens when someone hires a Christian band then demands that they play Lola and WAP. The band refuses.

Obviously bands get to pick and choose what songs to play because they can only play ones they have learned.
You can not just play any song.
Nor is it harmful to the customer to not get a particular song.
While being denied a wedding web site is very harmful.
And designing a wedding web site for a gay wedding is not at all harmful to the designer.
If they find gay sex offensive, that is irrelevant, since weddings do not have to be about sex.
Weddings can be to ensure financial security for dependents.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

The subject at hand was about social media and using the govt to get people banned.

Uh....no it's not. Maybe you're in the wrong thread.

 

[dblack]

The whole thing is just one huge contradiction...

According to the SCOTUS a baker cannot be forced to make a cake for someone they do not wish to do so, but this same baker can be forced to give an employee time off or other accommodations that the baker does not wish to give.

The main thing is, government should decide all the things.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

A school teacher can’t be fired for publicly leading students in prayer during school time but can be fired for saying gay people exist.

Religion over everything else.

Not religion, just mainstream Christianity.

A baker who is a 7th Day Adventist could be forced to give a Baptist Sunday off even though the very idea of Sunday being the day of worship goes against the bakers religious beliefs.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Obviously bands get to pick and choose what songs to play because they can only play ones they have learned.
You can not just play any song.
Nor is it harmful to the customer to not get a particular song.
While being denied a wedding web site is very harmful.
And designing a wedding web site for a gay wedding is not at all harmful to the designer.
If they find gay sex offensive, that is irrelevant, since weddings do not have to be about sex.
Weddings can be to ensure financial security for dependents.

Being denied a wedding website is absolutely harmless

There were weddings for centuries before any website was invented

 

[Marener]

Not religion, just mainstream Christianity.

A baker who is a 7th Day Adventist could be forced to give a Baptist Sunday off even though the very idea of Sunday being the day of worship goes against the bakers religious beliefs.

Nah. That doesn’t work. It’s not against the 7th Day Adventist beliefs to not work on Sunday.

 

[TNHarley]

Uh....no it's not. Maybe you're in the wrong thread.

Thats what we were discussing. Please go be retarded with someone else. TIA

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Nah. That doesn’t work. It’s not against the 7th Day Adventist beliefs to not work on Sunday.

Who are you to tell the 7th Day Adventist what their beliefs are?

Giving someone Sunday off you are endorsing Sunday as the Holy Day just as much as making a cake endorses gay marriage.

 

[Marener]

Being denied a wedding website is absolutely harmless

There were weddings for centuries before any website was invented

Indeed. Being denied a Twitter account is just as harmless.