Nullification: Can you Hear the People of South Carolina and California Sing?

[Kevin_Kennedy]

California nullifies NDAA

South Carolina nullifies Obamacare

One more Day 'til Revolution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IddP8AAIGTQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v582kPp43Mg

Go to your local/County Legislature asap (next Public Hearing). Propose this bill:

Title of Bill:
Federal and State Tyranny Prevention Act

Be It Enacted By The Suffolk County Legislature

Preamble:

We, the people of Suffolk County, do solemnly declare that the Creator, not Government, has bestowed each individual with certain unalienable rights, and that each individual is sovereign, free to communicate, interact and contract with other sovereigns, and by nature are free to defend themselves from all threats to their life, liberty and property.
The people of Suffolk County also reject the principle of unlimited submission to their federal government; but that, by a compact under the style and title of the Constitution for the United States, and of amendments thereto, they ratified a federal government for special purposes — delegated to that government certain definite powers, reserving, each State and County to itself, the residuary mass of right to their own self-government; and that whensoever the federal government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force: and that the government created by this compact was not made the exclusive or final judge of the extent of the powers delegated to itself; since that would have made its discretion, and not the Constitution, the measure of its powers; but that, as in all other cases of compact among powers having no common judge, each party has an equal right to judge for itself, as well of infractions as of the mode and measure of redress.

However, New York State has failed in her responsibility to shield and protect her citizens from the usurpations of the federal government, and has, itself, assumed powers that are prohibited to New York State through the New York State Constitution and has both endorsed and enforced the tyrannical actions of the Federal Government. Therefore the Suffolk County Legislature must erect a bulwark shielding her citizens against the tyranny of the wicked and malicious federal and state governments.

Section I:
a. In respect to the arbitrary and monstrous nature of the Patriot Act (and other similar laws), both the United States and New York State are denied the ability to spy on any citizen of Suffolk County, unless they obtain a Warrant, supported by Oath or affirmation, particularly describing the things to be searched or seized. This Warrant must be presented to the Sheriff of Suffolk County, so that he or she has knowledge of the existence and nature of the Warrant, and may challenge the constitutional validity of the Warrant in the appropriate Suffolk County Court.

b. Any evidence obtained by the United States or New York State that circumvents the above processes, shall be inadmissible in court, and Suffolk County will shield its citizens from being arrested or detained or summoned before a state or federal tribunal, on evidence that is obtained contrary to this SECTION.

d. A federal or state Warrant that is challenged in a Suffolk County Court (by the sheriff) is rendered inoperative and is considered suspended, unless the appropriate Suffolk County Court approves the Warrant.

e. Local police and authorities reserve the right to exempt themselves from executing a federal or state search, regardless of the validity of the Warrant.

Section II:
a. In respect to the heinous implications of the National Defense Authorization Act (and other similar laws), the United States is denied the ability to kidnap any person within the boundaries of Suffolk County. The United States must obtain written permission from the Sheriff of Suffolk County before detaining or arresting an individual within Suffolk County, for any crime or violation of law thereof.

b. The failure of federal or state authorities to obtain written permission from the Sheriff of Suffolk County may be met with lethal force from either the local police or the person to be detained or arrested.

Section III:
a. Suffolk County recognizes the Sixteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States as a legitimate article of the Constitution; however, the Constitution does not authorize the use of paper fiat currency, therefore Suffolk County will cease to enforce the Sixteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, unless the federal taxes are being collected in Lawful gold or silver Coin, as prescribed by Article I, Section 10, of the United States Constitution.

b. Suffolk County will also shield any of its inhabitants from detention or arrest or being forced to appear before a federal or state tribunal for failing to pay federal or state taxes in any Thing other than gold or silver Coin.

c. All federal taxes will be collected by Suffolk County and held in a Federal Escrow Tax Account, as the Constitution of United States does not grant the Federal Government the power to collect Federal Taxes or delegate that power to any other agency. As such, the IRS is prohibited from operating within Suffolk County immediately following the enactment of this bill.

b. All states taxes will be collected by Suffolk County and held in a State Escrow Tax Account.

Section IV:
a. Suffolk County does not recognize that the United States is being Invaded, or is experiencing Rebellion; therefore in accordance to Article I, Section 9, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended for any person within the boundaries of Suffolk County.

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South Carolina could become the first state to nullify Obamacare - Politics & Policy - Catholic Online

What now Lakhota, and his gang of Statist goons, what now fuckers?

The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution makes all of the above null and void.

The Supremacy Clause merely begs the question.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Give us the list of Republican and libertarian storm victims who have not paid taxes.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Give us the list of Republican and libertarian storm victims who have not paid taxes.

Nice! All Republicans living in Oklahoma are net payers of federal income taxes! Every one of them. Excellent State, Oklahoma!

I leave out libertarians as their number is inconsequential in any discussion. Not even worth including in the discussion.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Give us the list of Republican and libertarian storm victims who have not paid taxes.

Nice! All Republicans living in Oklahoma are net payers of federal income taxes! Every one of them. Excellent State, Oklahoma!

I leave out libertarians as their number is inconsequential in any discussion. Not even worth including in the discussion.

Well gee, thanks.

Regardless, the type of claim above has always been worthy only of an eye roll. The simple fact is that libertarians and conservatives who may not agree with every single government program are still entitled to use those programs as they are still required to pay taxes for those programs.

 

[NYcarbineer]

That's a circular argument. State and local governments do not get to set themselves up as federal courts to decide the constitutionality of laws. Unless a law is ruled unconstitutional by the federal courts, it is the law of the land with the full force of the Supremacy Clause behind it.

Your logic violates the first Maxim of Law:

NO ENTITY SHALL BE A JUDGE OF ITS OWN CAUSE.

Only an impartial Jury was given the power to the final judge of the Constitutionality of the laws.

"I consider Trial by Jury as the only anchor yet imagined by man, by which a government can be held to the principles of its constitution".

We live at a time in which we have the potential to learn perhaps more from history than did our ancestors, but it seems that though technology and information have increased, our memories have only grown shorter; we have forgotten the value of those fundamentals that preserve liberty and justice.

One such fundamental is that sovereignty resides in the people. This being the case we can say that the people are masters of their own governments and thus superior to them; they are the creator, the government the created. A corollary of this superiority is that people have the rightful power to check their own government, to keep it within the bounds of what is lawful and constitutional.

Trial by Jury – The Final Legal Check on Tyranny

Here's some more of Jefferson's writings:

The Kentucky Resolutions of 1798

Even Andrew Jackson, a strong supporter of central government (relative to his era) said the following about giving the federal courts a monopoly on the interpretation of the Constitution:

If the opinion of the Supreme Court covered the whole ground of this act, it ought not to control the coordinate authorities of this Government. The Congress, the Executive, and the Court must each for itself be guided by its own opinion of the Constitution. Each public officer who takes an oath to support the Constitution swears that he will support it as he understands it, and not as it is understood by others. It is as much the duty of the House of Representatives, of the Senate, and of the President to decide upon the constitutionality of any bill or resolution which may be presented to them for passage or approval as it is of the supreme judges when it may be brought before them for judicial decision. The opinion of the judges has no more authority over Congress than the opinion of Congress has over the judges, and on that point the President is independent of both. The authority of the Supreme Court must not, therefore, be permitted to control the Congress or the Executive when acting in their legislative capacities, but to have only such influence as the force of their reasoning may deserve.

History is against Big Government. Name one instance in humanity where large centralized government produced good results?

1. When the Union crushed the South and ended slavery.

2. When the United States defeated Germany and Japan.

 

[NYcarbineer]

California nullifies NDAA

South Carolina nullifies Obamacare

One more Day 'til Revolution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IddP8AAIGTQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v582kPp43Mg

Go to your local/County Legislature asap (next Public Hearing). Propose this bill:


South Carolina could become the first state to nullify Obamacare - Politics & Policy - Catholic Online

What now Lakhota, and his gang of Statist goons, what now fuckers?

The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution makes all of the above null and void.

The Supremacy Clause merely begs the question.

Only if you keep going around in circles.

Nullification has been rejected by the Supreme Court in multiple cases.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Give us the list of Republican and libertarian storm victims who have not paid taxes.

Nice! All Republicans living in Oklahoma are net payers of federal income taxes! Every one of them. Excellent State, Oklahoma!

I leave out libertarians as their number is inconsequential in any discussion. Not even worth including in the discussion.

Well gee, thanks.

Regardless, the type of claim above has always been worthy only of an eye roll. The simple fact is that libertarians and conservatives who may not agree with every single government program are still entitled to use those programs as they are still required to pay taxes for those programs.

No problem.

Are there Republicans who are not net payers of Federal Income Taxes.........who are receiving disaster relief?

The answer is yes. And liberals are FUCKING HAPPY TO KNOW IT.

That is the difference. Simply put.......LIBERALS CARE MORE ABOUT MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE FED, CLOTHED, HOUSED, EDUCATED, EMPLOYED AND HEALTHY than they do about a few percentage points of profit being sent to Washington.

Day after day......we hear how EVERYONE is corrupt...and THEY ALL bow down to corporate interests. Sure.......they all do.

But the liberal ones do so with an eye toward helping the least among us.....even if it inconveniences those who have prospered. This is the fact of it.
Just listen to the hard-asses in the GOP talk about disaster relief. It is unreal.


Lets assume that THEY ALL suck corporate lobbyist dick.

Ask yourself.......where does your party stand on these issues:

Do they want more people or fewer people to vote?
Do they want all people to have equal rights in all matters?
Do they have empathy for the poor....or do they despise them?
Do they think we have an impact on the environment or not?
Do they want all Americans to be healthy or just those who can afford it?
Do they think ALL childeren can learn...or are we wasting time on some?

There are more......but you get the idea.

 

[g5000]

Yes, I have heard retarded people sing. It ain't pretty to anyone but their mothers.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution makes all of the above null and void.

The Supremacy Clause merely begs the question.

Only if you keep going around in circles.

Nullification has been rejected by the Supreme Court in multiple cases.

The Supremacy Clause is a circular argument, so there's no other way to go. The issue at hand is whether a law is constitutional, and the Supremacy Clause merely states that constitutional laws are supreme. Well, that's circular.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Nice! All Republicans living in Oklahoma are net payers of federal income taxes! Every one of them. Excellent State, Oklahoma!

I leave out libertarians as their number is inconsequential in any discussion. Not even worth including in the discussion.

Well gee, thanks.

Regardless, the type of claim above has always been worthy only of an eye roll. The simple fact is that libertarians and conservatives who may not agree with every single government program are still entitled to use those programs as they are still required to pay taxes for those programs.

No problem.

Are there Republicans who are not net payers of Federal Income Taxes.........who are receiving disaster relief?

The answer is yes. And liberals are FUCKING HAPPY TO KNOW IT.

That is the difference. Simply put.......LIBERALS CARE MORE ABOUT MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE FED, CLOTHED, HOUSED, EDUCATED, EMPLOYED AND HEALTHY than they do about a few percentage points of profit being sent to Washington.

Day after day......we hear how EVERYONE is corrupt...and THEY ALL bow down to corporate interests. Sure.......they all do.

But the liberal ones do so with an eye toward helping the least among us.....even if it inconveniences those who have prospered. This is the fact of it.
Just listen to the hard-asses in the GOP talk about disaster relief. It is unreal.


Lets assume that THEY ALL suck corporate lobbyist dick.

Ask yourself.......where does your party stand on these issues:

Do they want more people or fewer people to vote?
Do they want all people to have equal rights in all matters?
Do they have empathy for the poor....or do they despise them?
Do they think we have an impact on the environment or not?
Do they want all Americans to be healthy or just those who can afford it?
Do they think ALL childeren can learn...or are we wasting time on some?

There are more......but you get the idea.

If you think they care more about people then you're a partisan. None of them care about anybody other than themselves. They simply put on airs to keep themselves in power.

 

[bendog]

That's a circular argument. State and local governments do not get to set themselves up as federal courts to decide the constitutionality of laws. Unless a law is ruled unconstitutional by the federal courts, it is the law of the land with the full force of the Supremacy Clause behind it.

Your logic violates the first Maxim of Law:

NO ENTITY SHALL BE A JUDGE OF ITS OWN CAUSE.

Only an impartial Jury was given the power to the final judge of the Constitutionality of the laws.



Trial by Jury – The Final Legal Check on Tyranny

Here's some more of Jefferson's writings:

The Kentucky Resolutions of 1798

Even Andrew Jackson, a strong supporter of central government (relative to his era) said the following about giving the federal courts a monopoly on the interpretation of the Constitution:

If the opinion of the Supreme Court covered the whole ground of this act, it ought not to control the coordinate authorities of this Government. The Congress, the Executive, and the Court must each for itself be guided by its own opinion of the Constitution. Each public officer who takes an oath to support the Constitution swears that he will support it as he understands it, and not as it is understood by others. It is as much the duty of the House of Representatives, of the Senate, and of the President to decide upon the constitutionality of any bill or resolution which may be presented to them for passage or approval as it is of the supreme judges when it may be brought before them for judicial decision. The opinion of the judges has no more authority over Congress than the opinion of Congress has over the judges, and on that point the President is independent of both. The authority of the Supreme Court must not, therefore, be permitted to control the Congress or the Executive when acting in their legislative capacities, but to have only such influence as the force of their reasoning may deserve.

History is against Big Government. Name one instance in humanity where large centralized government produced good results?

1. When the Union crushed the South and ended slavery.

2. When the United States defeated Germany and Japan.

Actually, it isn't worth responding. His knowlege of nullification and the constitution, and then his absurd post about central govts failing, show he simply has no concept of how the seperation of powers actually limits the concentration of power. The current scandalmania is just the lastest installment. Post WWII the importation of this republican form of govt to both germany and japan ushered in an end to neo-colonial war. Bushii coopted the media and bullied his opponents into ending not just dissention but questioning ... until it went to hell in Falluja. The current gop is hellbent on not allowing Obama to leave a judiciary, which is troublesome given that Fla in 2000 significantly altered a pattern of 3 gop presidential terms to 3 dem, to 3-2-2.

An uproar over a tax. I mean, jeez. LOL You'd think they were taking his over 20 capacity magazines.

 

[Foxfyre]

Well gee, thanks.

Regardless, the type of claim above has always been worthy only of an eye roll. The simple fact is that libertarians and conservatives who may not agree with every single government program are still entitled to use those programs as they are still required to pay taxes for those programs.

No problem.

Are there Republicans who are not net payers of Federal Income Taxes.........who are receiving disaster relief?

The answer is yes. And liberals are FUCKING HAPPY TO KNOW IT.

That is the difference. Simply put.......LIBERALS CARE MORE ABOUT MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE FED, CLOTHED, HOUSED, EDUCATED, EMPLOYED AND HEALTHY than they do about a few percentage points of profit being sent to Washington.

Day after day......we hear how EVERYONE is corrupt...and THEY ALL bow down to corporate interests. Sure.......they all do.

But the liberal ones do so with an eye toward helping the least among us.....even if it inconveniences those who have prospered. This is the fact of it.
Just listen to the hard-asses in the GOP talk about disaster relief. It is unreal.


Lets assume that THEY ALL suck corporate lobbyist dick.

Ask yourself.......where does your party stand on these issues:

Do they want more people or fewer people to vote?
Do they want all people to have equal rights in all matters?
Do they have empathy for the poor....or do they despise them?
Do they think we have an impact on the environment or not?
Do they want all Americans to be healthy or just those who can afford it?
Do they think ALL childeren can learn...or are we wasting time on some?

There are more......but you get the idea.

If you think they care more about people then you're a partisan. None of them care about anybody other than themselves. They simply put on airs to keep themselves in power.

It is a fact that most of those in high levels of government, whether elected, appointed, or hired, are far more likely to be invested in their own power, prestige, influence, and acquisition of personal wealth than they are going to be concerned about anything else. I am afraid that is true of both political parties and the few independents. That does not mean that some are not more savvy in how to stimulate an economy, etc. or what is more prudent policy than others are savvy, but that is a different subject.

But I do want more people to vote, but I want those who have educated themselves on the people and issues to vote, and not those who are paid to vote or told a name to vote for or who vote illegally.

I want equal rights for all, but I do not want rights to require one person to provide for another except within the nuclear family. A right should otherwise require no participation or contribution from another.

I believe a moral society cares for the truly helpless and gives a hand up to those who need it. I believe a moral society does not promote or encourage poverty but, to quote Ben Franklin, does its best to lead or drive people out of it.

I believe a moral people does not do environmental violence and that conservatives and liberals equally want clean water, air, and soil and aesthetic beauty. I also believe that the greatest thing we can do to encourage people to care for the environment is to encourage affluence. The more affluent people are the more they have the leisure and resources to care and do something about it.

I believe it is up to every individual to take responsibility for his/her own health and it is not our responsibility to dictate to others what they are required to do for their health.

I believe a moral people cares about the educationally challenged and helps as it can. But I believe it is as wrong to take resources and time away from those who can and will learn and assign it to those who can't or won't as it is to neglect those who aren't necessarily the 'brightest and best'. It is noboy's responsibility to see that my children are educated but mine. If I can form a social contract with others to cooperate together in the process, that should also be our collective choice. But I don't want the federal government having any say in what my child will or will not be taught.

There is a lot more, but I'm sure some will get the idea. . . .

 

[LoneLaugher]

Well gee, thanks.

Regardless, the type of claim above has always been worthy only of an eye roll. The simple fact is that libertarians and conservatives who may not agree with every single government program are still entitled to use those programs as they are still required to pay taxes for those programs.

No problem.

Are there Republicans who are not net payers of Federal Income Taxes.........who are receiving disaster relief?

The answer is yes. And liberals are FUCKING HAPPY TO KNOW IT.

That is the difference. Simply put.......LIBERALS CARE MORE ABOUT MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE FED, CLOTHED, HOUSED, EDUCATED, EMPLOYED AND HEALTHY than they do about a few percentage points of profit being sent to Washington.

Day after day......we hear how EVERYONE is corrupt...and THEY ALL bow down to corporate interests. Sure.......they all do.

But the liberal ones do so with an eye toward helping the least among us.....even if it inconveniences those who have prospered. This is the fact of it.
Just listen to the hard-asses in the GOP talk about disaster relief. It is unreal.


Lets assume that THEY ALL suck corporate lobbyist dick.

Ask yourself.......where does your party stand on these issues:

Do they want more people or fewer people to vote?
Do they want all people to have equal rights in all matters?
Do they have empathy for the poor....or do they despise them?
Do they think we have an impact on the environment or not?
Do they want all Americans to be healthy or just those who can afford it?
Do they think ALL childeren can learn...or are we wasting time on some?

There are more......but you get the idea.

If you think they care more about people then you're a partisan. None of them care about anybody other than themselves. They simply put on airs to keep themselves in power.

But....Ron Paul cares? Got it! You are definitely NOT partisan.

 

[Wry Catcher]

California nullifies NDAA

South Carolina nullifies Obamacare

One more Day 'til Revolution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IddP8AAIGTQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v582kPp43Mg

Go to your local/County Legislature asap (next Public Hearing). Propose this bill:

Title of Bill:
Federal and State Tyranny Prevention Act

Be It Enacted By The Suffolk County Legislature

Preamble:

We, the people of Suffolk County, do solemnly declare that the Creator, not Government, has bestowed each individual with certain unalienable rights, and that each individual is sovereign, free to communicate, interact and contract with other sovereigns, and by nature are free to defend themselves from all threats to their life, liberty and property.
The people of Suffolk County also reject the principle of unlimited submission to their federal government; but that, by a compact under the style and title of the Constitution for the United States, and of amendments thereto, they ratified a federal government for special purposes — delegated to that government certain definite powers, reserving, each State and County to itself, the residuary mass of right to their own self-government; and that whensoever the federal government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force: and that the government created by this compact was not made the exclusive or final judge of the extent of the powers delegated to itself; since that would have made its discretion, and not the Constitution, the measure of its powers; but that, as in all other cases of compact among powers having no common judge, each party has an equal right to judge for itself, as well of infractions as of the mode and measure of redress.

However, New York State has failed in her responsibility to shield and protect her citizens from the usurpations of the federal government, and has, itself, assumed powers that are prohibited to New York State through the New York State Constitution and has both endorsed and enforced the tyrannical actions of the Federal Government. Therefore the Suffolk County Legislature must erect a bulwark shielding her citizens against the tyranny of the wicked and malicious federal and state governments.

Section I:
a. In respect to the arbitrary and monstrous nature of the Patriot Act (and other similar laws), both the United States and New York State are denied the ability to spy on any citizen of Suffolk County, unless they obtain a Warrant, supported by Oath or affirmation, particularly describing the things to be searched or seized. This Warrant must be presented to the Sheriff of Suffolk County, so that he or she has knowledge of the existence and nature of the Warrant, and may challenge the constitutional validity of the Warrant in the appropriate Suffolk County Court.

b. Any evidence obtained by the United States or New York State that circumvents the above processes, shall be inadmissible in court, and Suffolk County will shield its citizens from being arrested or detained or summoned before a state or federal tribunal, on evidence that is obtained contrary to this SECTION.

d. A federal or state Warrant that is challenged in a Suffolk County Court (by the sheriff) is rendered inoperative and is considered suspended, unless the appropriate Suffolk County Court approves the Warrant.

e. Local police and authorities reserve the right to exempt themselves from executing a federal or state search, regardless of the validity of the Warrant.

Section II:
a. In respect to the heinous implications of the National Defense Authorization Act (and other similar laws), the United States is denied the ability to kidnap any person within the boundaries of Suffolk County. The United States must obtain written permission from the Sheriff of Suffolk County before detaining or arresting an individual within Suffolk County, for any crime or violation of law thereof.

b. The failure of federal or state authorities to obtain written permission from the Sheriff of Suffolk County may be met with lethal force from either the local police or the person to be detained or arrested.

Section III:
a. Suffolk County recognizes the Sixteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States as a legitimate article of the Constitution; however, the Constitution does not authorize the use of paper fiat currency, therefore Suffolk County will cease to enforce the Sixteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, unless the federal taxes are being collected in Lawful gold or silver Coin, as prescribed by Article I, Section 10, of the United States Constitution.

b. Suffolk County will also shield any of its inhabitants from detention or arrest or being forced to appear before a federal or state tribunal for failing to pay federal or state taxes in any Thing other than gold or silver Coin.

c. All federal taxes will be collected by Suffolk County and held in a Federal Escrow Tax Account, as the Constitution of United States does not grant the Federal Government the power to collect Federal Taxes or delegate that power to any other agency. As such, the IRS is prohibited from operating within Suffolk County immediately following the enactment of this bill.

b. All states taxes will be collected by Suffolk County and held in a State Escrow Tax Account.

Section IV:
a. Suffolk County does not recognize that the United States is being Invaded, or is experiencing Rebellion; therefore in accordance to Article I, Section 9, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended for any person within the boundaries of Suffolk County.

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What now Lakhota, and his gang of Statist goons, what now fuckers?

What now? How about a definition for you and others to consider?

SEDITION:

"Exciting discontent against the government, or resistent to lawful authority. To Attempt by word, deed or writing to promote public disorder or induce riot, rebellion or civil war. State v. Shepherd 177 Mo 205, 76 SW 79."

Portion of the definition from Ballentine's Law Dictionary, pg. 1155

 

[Wry Catcher]

A bit more for 2ndAmendment and/or his buddies in Suffolk County to chew on:

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having
knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals
and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same
to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the
governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is
guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title
or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both."

18 USC CHAPTER 115 - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE
ACTIVITIES

 

[The2ndAmendment]

SEDITION:

"Exciting discontent against the government, or resistent to lawful authority. To Attempt by word, deed or writing to promote public disorder or induce riot, rebellion or civil war. State v. Shepherd 177 Mo 205, 76 SW 79."

Portion of the definition from Ballentine's Law Dictionary, pg. 1155

It will go the same way the Alien and Sedition Acts went in 1798 - nullified by the States, when the feds tried to enforce it.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

A bit more for 2ndAmendment and/or his buddies in Suffolk County to chew on:

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having
knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals
and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same
to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the
governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is
guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title
or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both."

18 USC CHAPTER 115 - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE
ACTIVITIES

Enforcing the Ninth and Tenth Amendments is treason? Link please. Also, the Constitution trumps that law, so only those parts of it, not repugnant to the Constitution, would actually be applicable:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

And then you got that pesky 5th Amendment to deal with:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury.

And then that god damned Sixth Amendment that protects State's rights and a Jury trial in that State, and more specifically that County:

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

So apparently you think the federal government will succeed in prosecuting people of Suffolk County for treason or sedition, while being judged by their peers (other people from Suffolk County), who share the exact same sentiments? Maybe 1/500 cases, if the feds are lucky and Jury is brain dead.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

No problem.

Are there Republicans who are not net payers of Federal Income Taxes.........who are receiving disaster relief?

The answer is yes. And liberals are FUCKING HAPPY TO KNOW IT.

That is the difference. Simply put.......LIBERALS CARE MORE ABOUT MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE FED, CLOTHED, HOUSED, EDUCATED, EMPLOYED AND HEALTHY than they do about a few percentage points of profit being sent to Washington.

Day after day......we hear how EVERYONE is corrupt...and THEY ALL bow down to corporate interests. Sure.......they all do.

But the liberal ones do so with an eye toward helping the least among us.....even if it inconveniences those who have prospered. This is the fact of it.
Just listen to the hard-asses in the GOP talk about disaster relief. It is unreal.


Lets assume that THEY ALL suck corporate lobbyist dick.

Ask yourself.......where does your party stand on these issues:

Do they want more people or fewer people to vote?
Do they want all people to have equal rights in all matters?
Do they have empathy for the poor....or do they despise them?
Do they think we have an impact on the environment or not?
Do they want all Americans to be healthy or just those who can afford it?
Do they think ALL childeren can learn...or are we wasting time on some?

There are more......but you get the idea.

If you think they care more about people then you're a partisan. None of them care about anybody other than themselves. They simply put on airs to keep themselves in power.

But....Ron Paul cares? Got it! You are definitely NOT partisan.

As somebody who is not a member, nor a fan, of any political party I cannot by definition be partisan. Biased towards libertarianism, for sure, but not partisan.

I couldn't tell you whether Ron Paul cares or not. I've never met the man. Though he has never used what political power he had to curry favor or to hurt anybody else, so it would at least appear as though he was not a sociopath like the majority of people in office.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

California nullifies NDAA

South Carolina nullifies Obamacare

One more Day 'til Revolution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IddP8AAIGTQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v582kPp43Mg

Go to your local/County Legislature asap (next Public Hearing). Propose this bill:

Title of Bill:
Federal and State Tyranny Prevention Act

Be It Enacted By The Suffolk County Legislature

Preamble:

We, the people of Suffolk County, do solemnly declare that the Creator, not Government, has bestowed each individual with certain unalienable rights, and that each individual is sovereign, free to communicate, interact and contract with other sovereigns, and by nature are free to defend themselves from all threats to their life, liberty and property.
The people of Suffolk County also reject the principle of unlimited submission to their federal government; but that, by a compact under the style and title of the Constitution for the United States, and of amendments thereto, they ratified a federal government for special purposes — delegated to that government certain definite powers, reserving, each State and County to itself, the residuary mass of right to their own self-government; and that whensoever the federal government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force: and that the government created by this compact was not made the exclusive or final judge of the extent of the powers delegated to itself; since that would have made its discretion, and not the Constitution, the measure of its powers; but that, as in all other cases of compact among powers having no common judge, each party has an equal right to judge for itself, as well of infractions as of the mode and measure of redress.

However, New York State has failed in her responsibility to shield and protect her citizens from the usurpations of the federal government, and has, itself, assumed powers that are prohibited to New York State through the New York State Constitution and has both endorsed and enforced the tyrannical actions of the Federal Government. Therefore the Suffolk County Legislature must erect a bulwark shielding her citizens against the tyranny of the wicked and malicious federal and state governments.

Section I:
a. In respect to the arbitrary and monstrous nature of the Patriot Act (and other similar laws), both the United States and New York State are denied the ability to spy on any citizen of Suffolk County, unless they obtain a Warrant, supported by Oath or affirmation, particularly describing the things to be searched or seized. This Warrant must be presented to the Sheriff of Suffolk County, so that he or she has knowledge of the existence and nature of the Warrant, and may challenge the constitutional validity of the Warrant in the appropriate Suffolk County Court.

b. Any evidence obtained by the United States or New York State that circumvents the above processes, shall be inadmissible in court, and Suffolk County will shield its citizens from being arrested or detained or summoned before a state or federal tribunal, on evidence that is obtained contrary to this SECTION.

d. A federal or state Warrant that is challenged in a Suffolk County Court (by the sheriff) is rendered inoperative and is considered suspended, unless the appropriate Suffolk County Court approves the Warrant.

e. Local police and authorities reserve the right to exempt themselves from executing a federal or state search, regardless of the validity of the Warrant.

Section II:
a. In respect to the heinous implications of the National Defense Authorization Act (and other similar laws), the United States is denied the ability to kidnap any person within the boundaries of Suffolk County. The United States must obtain written permission from the Sheriff of Suffolk County before detaining or arresting an individual within Suffolk County, for any crime or violation of law thereof.

b. The failure of federal or state authorities to obtain written permission from the Sheriff of Suffolk County may be met with lethal force from either the local police or the person to be detained or arrested.

Section III:
a. Suffolk County recognizes the Sixteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States as a legitimate article of the Constitution; however, the Constitution does not authorize the use of paper fiat currency, therefore Suffolk County will cease to enforce the Sixteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, unless the federal taxes are being collected in Lawful gold or silver Coin, as prescribed by Article I, Section 10, of the United States Constitution.

b. Suffolk County will also shield any of its inhabitants from detention or arrest or being forced to appear before a federal or state tribunal for failing to pay federal or state taxes in any Thing other than gold or silver Coin.

c. All federal taxes will be collected by Suffolk County and held in a Federal Escrow Tax Account, as the Constitution of United States does not grant the Federal Government the power to collect Federal Taxes or delegate that power to any other agency. As such, the IRS is prohibited from operating within Suffolk County immediately following the enactment of this bill.

b. All states taxes will be collected by Suffolk County and held in a State Escrow Tax Account.

Section IV:
a. Suffolk County does not recognize that the United States is being Invaded, or is experiencing Rebellion; therefore in accordance to Article I, Section 9, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended for any person within the boundaries of Suffolk County.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/296599-does-the-irs-need-oversight.html#post7315808 Linked To Original Post. Link Each Copy and Paste to It's Source. Don't Post Entire Piece. -Intense

South Carolina could become the first state to nullify Obamacare - Politics & Policy - Catholic Online

https://www.facebook.com/notes/the-...ate-tyranny-nullification-act/616811438348749



What now Lakhota, and his gang of Statist goons, what now fuckers?

What now? How about a definition for you and others to consider?

SEDITION:

"Exciting discontent against the government, or resistent to lawful authority. To Attempt by word, deed or writing to promote public disorder or induce riot, rebellion or civil war. State v. Shepherd 177 Mo 205, 76 SW 79."

Portion of the definition from Ballentine's Law Dictionary, pg. 1155

Who needs freedom of speech, after all?

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Who needs freedom of speech, after all?

What's sad is that Wry Catcher is one of the heaviest hitters (liberal) on this board. This is about the best they can muster.