Obama blames Budget Impasse on GOP fear of Limbaugh, Tea Party

[Billo_Really]

Now that we have lost, Redfish is crying about the private insurance industry going to get it badly.

Well, guess which industry screwed up.

He's right!

$2 trillion dollars a year, ain't what it used to be!

 

[The T]

Want to reduce healthcare costs??? get the damn lawyers out of it. put caps on malpractice cases and make the loser pay court costs, limit payment to lawyers to their costs plus 10%, no more % contingency contracts.

those changes alone would cut costs greatly, malpractice insurance cost would drop, duplicate and redundant testing would stop, defensive medicine would go away.

Lawyers will NEVER go for TORT reform.

of course not, and congress is full of lawyers----------we the people are screwed.

As they craft law to make subservient the citizen.

 

[Redfish]

But . . . our party had twelve years in which to do something reasonable and it did not.

We punted the ball to the Dems and they grounds us into defeat.

This is over.

My goal is to purge republicans completely from government.

Then work on purging the democrats as well.

I want both of them completely out of public office.

 

[Billo_Really]

and you believe that? I explained several times how the "option" was a ruse to destroy private insurance. Sorry, if that was beyond your comprehension level.

If your prices aren't competitive, then you got no business, being a business.

 

[Billo_Really]

I have a dream...

 

[The T]

But . . . our party had twelve years in which to do something reasonable and it did not.

We punted the ball to the Dems and they grounds us into defeat.

This is over.

My goal is to purge republicans completely from government.

Then work on purging the democrats as well.

I want both of them completely out of public office.

Purge away son...it's Constitutional Conservatives YOU have to worry about...but YOU just press on smartly, shall you?

 

[Billo_Really]

the following is from your cite:

"[A]dminis*trative costs refer to any expenses insurers incur that are not payments for health care services, including the profits retained by private insurers and the taxes paid on those profits...
Administrative costs can be divided into three categories:

- Marketing costs include expenses for advertising, sales, enrollment processing, customer service, billing, and actuarial and underwriting activities. (Underwrit*ing involves an assessment of an applicant’s health and expected use of health care in order to determine what premium to charge.)

- Costs associated with medical activities include expenses for claims review and processing, medical management (such as utilization review, case manage*ment, quality assurance, and regulatory compliance), and provider and network management (contracting with doctors and hospitals and maintaining relations with providers).

- General administrative costs are difficult to allocate to a specific function; they include expenses for infor*mation technology, general management overhead, profits, and taxes."


its an apples to oranges comparison created by proponents of one payer socialized medicine. What it does not address is that medicare and medicaid are operating at a loss. Whereas private insurance must at least break even in order to stay in business.

Nice try-----------but FAIL

And of coarse, insurance company's do not pass those costs on to the consumer?

 

[Redfish]

and you believe that? I explained several times how the "option" was a ruse to destroy private insurance. Sorry, if that was beyond your comprehension level.

If your prices aren't competitive, then you got no business, being a business.

Geez you are thick headed--------the government can operate at a loss, it does not have to make income and expenses balance. a private company has to break even or make a profit to survive.

It is not competition when the govt "competes" with private industry. The govt always wins because it can print money.

Wake the fuck up !

 

[Billo_Really]

Purge away son...it's Constitutional Conservatives YOU have to worry about...but YOU just press on smartly, shall you?

Conservatives act like they're for the Constitution, but they're anything but.

 

[Billo_Really]

Geez you are thick headed--------the government can operate at a loss, it does not have to make income and expenses balance. a private company has to break even or make a profit to survive.

It is not competition when the govt "competes" with private industry. The govt always wins because it can print money.

Wake the fuck up !

And the consumer, reaps the benefits!

 

[The T]

But . . . our party had twelve years in which to do something reasonable and it did not.

We punted the ball to the Dems and they grounds us into defeat.

This is over.

My goal is to purge republicans completely from government.

Then work on purging the democrats as well.

I want both of them completely out of public office.

As a post script? Are YOU going to do this single-handed sport? HOW do YOU propose to purge them?

 

[Redfish]

the following is from your cite:

"[A]dminis*trative costs refer to any expenses insurers incur that are not payments for health care services, including the profits retained by private insurers and the taxes paid on those profits...
Administrative costs can be divided into three categories:

- Marketing costs include expenses for advertising, sales, enrollment processing, customer service, billing, and actuarial and underwriting activities. (Underwrit*ing involves an assessment of an applicant’s health and expected use of health care in order to determine what premium to charge.)

- Costs associated with medical activities include expenses for claims review and processing, medical management (such as utilization review, case manage*ment, quality assurance, and regulatory compliance), and provider and network management (contracting with doctors and hospitals and maintaining relations with providers).

- General administrative costs are difficult to allocate to a specific function; they include expenses for infor*mation technology, general management overhead, profits, and taxes."


its an apples to oranges comparison created by proponents of one payer socialized medicine. What it does not address is that medicare and medicaid are operating at a loss. Whereas private insurance must at least break even in order to stay in business.

Nice try-----------but FAIL

And of coarse, insurance company's do not pass those costs on to the consumer?

and so will the government---------can you say medicare, medicaid, social security, defense dept, DHS, EPA. Who do you think is paying the govt's bills?

 

[The T]

Purge away son...it's Constitutional Conservatives YOU have to worry about...but YOU just press on smartly, shall you?

Conservatives act like they're for the Constitution, but they're anything but.

You have no clue...seriously. YOU are full of it and delusion boy.

 

[Redfish]

Geez you are thick headed--------the government can operate at a loss, it does not have to make income and expenses balance. a private company has to break even or make a profit to survive.

It is not competition when the govt "competes" with private industry. The govt always wins because it can print money.

Wake the fuck up !

And the consumer, reaps the benefits!

Hello! Is that Karl Marx I hear?

"from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs " didn't work then won't work now.

 

[The T]

and you believe that? I explained several times how the "option" was a ruse to destroy private insurance. Sorry, if that was beyond your comprehension level.

If your prices aren't competitive, then you got no business, being a business.

Geez you are thick headed--------the government can operate at a loss, it does not have to make income and expenses balance. a private company has to break even or make a profit to survive.

It is not competition when the govt "competes" with private industry. The govt always wins because it can print money.

Wake the fuck up !

Indeed. and as he thinks Government is a business? Sure it's a racket to rob Liberty...Steal from citizens...but a business? Really?

Isn't Government barred from running businesses?

 

[Redfish]

If your prices aren't competitive, then you got no business, being a business.

Geez you are thick headed--------the government can operate at a loss, it does not have to make income and expenses balance. a private company has to break even or make a profit to survive.

It is not competition when the govt "competes" with private industry. The govt always wins because it can print money.

Wake the fuck up !

Indeed. and as he thinks Government is a business? Sure it's a racket to rob Liberty...Steal from citizens...but a business? Really?

Isn't Government barred from running businesses?

liberalism is a mental disease, that is proven every day on this message board.

 

[hjmick]

He's got to blame someone, people are starting to roll their eyes now when he blames Bush...

 

[Papageorgio]

Isn't UC Irvine a state college, which would be a government hospital? It sounds like the greedy government is the one charging so much.

It's called the UCI Medical Center.

I don't know who owns it?

The state of California owns it. It is government run. That's why it must be so expensive.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Poor, poor Redfish.

 

[edthecynic]

Purge away son...it's Constitutional Conservatives YOU have to worry about...but YOU just press on smartly, shall you?

Conservatives act like they're for the Constitution, but they're anything but.

Exactly, there is no such thing as a Constitutional CON$ervative.

Constipated CON$ervative would be more accurate!