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Obama Commissioned Study Proves Gun Control Doesn't Work

What it does say, and as evidence shows, is that politicans do NOT make evidence-based policies regarding gun control. Or, in other words, their efforts, as observation shows, clearly do not work as intended. NYs new SAFE act as one example.

In other words, we've been implementing gun control laws improperly for all of these years.

Good thing we can finally agree that these studies clearly do not say that gun control does not work.
 
I guess we can chalk up another thread that is misleading and doesn't actually have any evidence to support what the thread claims.

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Gun control under the US constituiton will never work. Get the constitution amended or you'll never get results. The ONLY working model for curtailing gun violence are bans on firearms.

Good luck.

And furthermore, politicians do not WANT to have studies so that evidence based legislation can be passed. because then they wouldn't be able to grandstand the issue.
 
As it stands right now, control policies do not work. Twist and spin all you want. You even admitted it yourself. We're doing it wrong. Thanks for being honest. Now rally your troops for a change to the constitution.
 
As it stands right now, control policies do not work. Twist and spin all you want. You even admitted it yourself. We're doing it wrong. Thanks for being honest. Now rally your troops for a change to the constitution.

Of course we're doing it wrong. I've never once claimed we're doing it well. If we were, this wouldn't be the issue that it is. Gun free zones are a joke, the fact that you can buy a used gun privately without a background check is a joke and the fact that the focus for so long as been on "assault weapons" is a joke.
 
Gun control under the US constituiton will never work. Get the constitution amended or you'll never get results. The ONLY working model for curtailing gun violence are bans on firearms.

Good luck.

And furthermore, politicians do not WANT to have studies so that evidence based legislation can be passed. because then they wouldn't be able to grandstand the issue.

I agree, gun bans do work as has been shown in other 1st world countries. That obviously will never happen here.
 
As it stands right now, control policies do not work. Twist and spin all you want. You even admitted it yourself. We're doing it wrong. Thanks for being honest. Now rally your troops for a change to the constitution.

You do have a point.

We know for a fact thatgun control works, because it works in 20 other countries. But as long as Congress back those who make money out of gun sales, then it probably can't work.

The police will always be working with one hand tied behind their backs. There is just too much money to be made from arming gangs.

And yet we also know that 90% of Americans would oppose a change to the constitution, and perhaps with good reason.
 
Correct. So tell your friends that advocating gun control policies is a sham and theat they'll need to amend the constitution. Wish them luck.

As it stands, control policies aren't based on evidence and observation show them found wanting. But weren't you advocating for gun control just several months ago? :lol:
 
It is clearly stated that gun control does not work - in any form :D

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Please highlight the sentence that "clearly states that gun control does not work".

I'll wait.

Still waiting....

learn to read first :lol:
 
Sorry, where is that link to the study you ran? I'm having trouble finding it.

What study are you blabbering about? How can we not have sufficient evidence when we've had over 40 years of experience with gun control? You think no one's ever considered this?

The study itself says the data is insufficient. Let's see your study that has sufficient data. Until then, you'll continue to have no clue what you're saying.

How can the data be insufficient when we've had over 40 years' experience? What they mean is the data is insufficient to show it works. Because it doesn't. It is clear to anyone without an agenda and with two functioning brain cells it doesn't work. You are excluded on either of those factors, much less both, of course.
 
As it stands right now, control policies do not work. Twist and spin all you want. You even admitted it yourself. We're doing it wrong. Thanks for being honest. Now rally your troops for a change to the constitution.

You do have a point.

We know for a fact thatgun control works, because it works in 20 other countries. But as long as Congress back those who make money out of gun sales, then it probably can't work.

The police will always be working with one hand tied behind their backs. There is just too much money to be made from arming gangs.

And yet we also know that 90% of Americans would oppose a change to the constitution, and perhaps with good reason.

no, it DOES NOT.

We know it FOR A FACT :D

and proven by GOVERNMENT studies multiple times
 
What study are you blabbering about? How can we not have sufficient evidence when we've had over 40 years of experience with gun control? You think no one's ever considered this?

The study itself says the data is insufficient. Let's see your study that has sufficient data. Until then, you'll continue to have no clue what you're saying.

How can the data be insufficient when we've had over 40 years' experience? What they mean is the data is insufficient to show it works. Because it doesn't. It is clear to anyone without an agenda and with two functioning brain cells it doesn't work. You are excluded on either of those factors, much less both, of course.

So still not study from you with that sufficient data?
 
The study itself says the data is insufficient. Let's see your study that has sufficient data. Until then, you'll continue to have no clue what you're saying.

How can the data be insufficient when we've had over 40 years' experience? What they mean is the data is insufficient to show it works. Because it doesn't. It is clear to anyone without an agenda and with two functioning brain cells it doesn't work. You are excluded on either of those factors, much less both, of course.

So still not study from you with that sufficient data?

I realize you don't read well but please answer my question: how can there be insufficient data on something that's been done for over 40 years?
 
What study are you blabbering about? How can we not have sufficient evidence when we've had over 40 years of experience with gun control? You think no one's ever considered this?

The study itself says the data is insufficient. Let's see your study that has sufficient data. Until then, you'll continue to have no clue what you're saying.

How can the data be insufficient when we've had over 40 years' experience? What they mean is the data is insufficient to show it works. Because it doesn't. It is clear to anyone without an agenda and with two functioning brain cells it doesn't work. You are excluded on either of those factors, much less both, of course.

In order to have "sufficient data" you have to design a study - which your opponent does not have a clue about.
Designation of a study is possible in some conditions and not possible in other ones.
You can design a control group for a clinical study of the medication, but you can not design a control group for a controlled comparing study of the murder, suicide and injuries.
Those studies can be observational only - by the very subject studied. And we have all possible statistics under the sun to analyze - and anybody can do it themselves - if the know how to analyze statistical tables - CDC sites are free - but our libtard anti-gun wingnuts do not want to analyze statistics, because they show that GUN CONTROL DOES NOT WORK - they want to manipulate the statistics in order to fit their agenda :lol:


Nobody of those progressive gun-grabbers EVER read the study - just the first two pages of preface :lol:
 
As it stands right now, control policies do not work. Twist and spin all you want. You even admitted it yourself. We're doing it wrong. Thanks for being honest. Now rally your troops for a change to the constitution.

You do have a point.

We know for a fact thatgun control works, because it works in 20 other countries. But as long as Congress back those who make money out of gun sales, then it probably can't work.

The police will always be working with one hand tied behind their backs. There is just too much money to be made from arming gangs.

And yet we also know that 90% of Americans would oppose a change to the constitution, and perhaps with good reason.

no, it DOES NOT.

We know it FOR A FACT :D

and proven by GOVERNMENT studies multiple times

We do not know that gun control works in other countries. Actually the evidence is the opposite. Rates of crime tend to go up in countries that implement gun control, not down.
 
You do have a point.

We know for a fact thatgun control works, because it works in 20 other countries. But as long as Congress back those who make money out of gun sales, then it probably can't work.

The police will always be working with one hand tied behind their backs. There is just too much money to be made from arming gangs.

And yet we also know that 90% of Americans would oppose a change to the constitution, and perhaps with good reason.

no, it DOES NOT.

We know it FOR A FACT :D

and proven by GOVERNMENT studies multiple times

We do not know that gun control works in other countries. Actually the evidence is the opposite. Rates of crime tend to go up in countries that implement gun control, not down.

That what I've said
 
How can the data be insufficient when we've had over 40 years' experience? What they mean is the data is insufficient to show it works. Because it doesn't. It is clear to anyone without an agenda and with two functioning brain cells it doesn't work. You are excluded on either of those factors, much less both, of course.

So still not study from you with that sufficient data?

I realize you don't read well but please answer my question: how can there be insufficient data on something that's been done for over 40 years?

I guess you didn't read the study, did you?

Who am I kidding. Not only did you not read the study, I would be willing to place money you never even bothered clicking the link.
 

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