Obama is a Marxist

[Vigilante]

Then show us the news articles you're referencing. Otherwise, you're just offering us vague insinuation and innuendo regarding a topic you've already admitted you've never researched and don't know what you're talking about.

None of which has thing to do with the right wing fantasy of Obama being a 'Marxist'. Which his protection of banks and other concentrations of private capital irrefutably disprove.

Seems he fits the definition perfectly.... from Wiki, I know, it's wiki, but it's easy!

Spending billions and billions of the people's money to preserve some of the largest concentrations of private capital in history is a 'perfect fit' for Marxism?

You may want to dig a little deeper on the economic theory of Marxism. As you're not quite getting it.

Of course! Who do you think are some of the largest donors to both a presidential run for office, and the DNC itself! You put those people out of business you cut off your funding! Since you are now using OTHER PEOPLES MONEY to save them, all the better! Typical liberalism ploy!

 

[AntiParty]

Have you checked to see big donors that were bank CEO, that got saved?....Why not let us know, before you pat yourself on the back. Jamie Dimon might be a good place to start!

Its your argument. Show me what you've got. But insinuating an argument you clearly haven't done the research to support isn't gonna cut it.

And of course, TARP funds were proposed by Bush as well. Obama agreed with the defacto leader of the Republican party on this issue. And championed the allocation of billions of dollars of tax payer money for the preservation of private capital.

Another major ding to the right wing 'Marxist' fantasy.

Why would I research any of this? I simply state what was in the news. I agree Bush started that bullshit and deserves much of the vilification, Obuma simply played out the hand given to him by STUPID Republicans. It seems Republicans aren't anywhere as diabolical as democrats!

I was trying to catch up with the thread to post something informational but read this, "Why would I research any of this? I simply state what was in the news"

^Doesn't know that ABC, NBC and CBS are all on the top donor list to all top politicians.

 

[Skylar]

Seems he fits the definition perfectly.... from Wiki, I know, it's wiki, but it's easy!

Spending billions and billions of the people's money to preserve some of the largest concentrations of private capital in history is a 'perfect fit' for Marxism?

You may want to dig a little deeper on the economic theory of Marxism. As you're not quite getting it.

Of course! Who do you think are some of the largest donors to both a presidential run for office, and the DNC itself! You put those people out of business you cut off your funding! Since you are now using OTHER PEOPLES MONEY to save them, all the better! Typical liberalism ploy!

And your back to insinuating an argument you can't support, because you haven't done the research and don't know what you're talking about. Its like an ignorance merry-go-round. If you want to hear the same debunked nonsense again, just wait a minute. It'll come back around.

IF you have evidence that Obama advocated spending billions because he received thousands in donations, by all means present it. But you don't. Nor does the claim make much sense.

Thus, we're left with what Obama actually did: protect and preserve enormous concentrations of private capital. And use public money to do it. Which is an explicit contradiction of Marxist tenets.

 

[Skylar]

Its your argument. Show me what you've got. But insinuating an argument you clearly haven't done the research to support isn't gonna cut it.

And of course, TARP funds were proposed by Bush as well. Obama agreed with the defacto leader of the Republican party on this issue. And championed the allocation of billions of dollars of tax payer money for the preservation of private capital.

Another major ding to the right wing 'Marxist' fantasy.

Why would I research any of this? I simply state what was in the news. I agree Bush started that bullshit and deserves much of the vilification, Obuma simply played out the hand given to him by STUPID Republicans. It seems Republicans aren't anywhere as diabolical as democrats!

I was trying to catch up with the thread to post something informational but read this, "Why would I research any of this? I simply state what was in the news"

^Doesn't know that ABC, NBC and CBS are all on the top donor list to all top politicians.

You're thinking too hard. What you're responding to is about insinuation, innuendo, and feelings. Just go with it. When you try to make sense of it, you'll just go cross-eyed.

 

[Vigilante]

Spending billions and billions of the people's money to preserve some of the largest concentrations of private capital in history is a 'perfect fit' for Marxism?

You may want to dig a little deeper on the economic theory of Marxism. As you're not quite getting it.

Of course! Who do you think are some of the largest donors to both a presidential run for office, and the DNC itself! You put those people out of business you cut off your funding! Since you are now using OTHER PEOPLES MONEY to save them, all the better! Typical liberalism ploy!

And your back to insinuating an argument you can't support, because you haven't done the research and don't know what you're talking about. Its like an ignorance merry-go-round. If you want to hear the same debunked nonsense again, just wait a minute. It'll come back around.

IF you have evidence that Obama advocated spending billions because he received thousands in donations, by all means present it. But you don't. Nor does the claim make much sense.

Thus, we're left with what Obama actually did: protect and preserve enormous concentrations of private capital. And use public money to do it. Which is an explicit contradiction of Marxist tenets.

Of course there is no evidence, whatever there is, has been cover up as it would be illegal to do! But as with his STIMULUS plan....
Artful stimulus spending? Critics say waste of taxpayer dollars

http://www.katu.com/politics/youpaidforit/Artful-stimulus-spending-Critics-say-waste-of-taxpayer-dollars-261616541.html

 

[Londoner]

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Obama aggressively advocated the preservation of some of the largest concentration of private capital in the world during the banking crisis. A Marxist doesn't believe in private capital. And wouldn't take action to preserve it.

Obama's actions are explicitly contrary to your assumptions. Invalidating your assumptions.

The OP has never studied Marx, nor does he know the difference between Keynes and Marx, nor does he know that Adam Smith shared many of Marx's criticisms of capitalism, despite being a stronger advocate in the end. Obama abandoned the Public Option because it was too far left and potentially injurious to the current private insurance system; he re-confirmed Bernanke who is a Milton Friedman devote. As you said, he bailed out the capitalist lender while leaving the poor lower class home owner to face "market discipline". Before Obama, Bill Clinton was called the most liberal president ever, yet he had a far right economic team, fucked labor with NAFTA and did more to undermine traditional welfare than any president in the program's history, including Reagan. Before Clinton, Carter was called the most liberal president ever, yet he deregulated transportation and communications and spent nothing compared to Reagan. The Rightwing machine has created an incentive system which pays pundits, bloggers and think tanks to spew the exact same talking points at every Democratic, no matter what the facts are. The machine is effective because of the Right's aggressive outreach to the uneducated starting in the 70s. The OP is a cut-&-paste spambot. Would love to hear his bio. Probably light on the college end of the spectrum.

 

[Skylar]

Of course there is no evidence, whatever there is, has been cover up as it would be illegal to do! But as with his STIMULUS plan....

Laughing....so now the reason you have no idea what you're talking about and can't back up your claims is because its a conspiracy! You're literally citing your complete failure to back your claims as evidence that they must be true.

No corners on that argument, is there?

So much for the right wing 'Marxist' fantasy.

 

[Skylar]

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Obama aggressively advocated the preservation of some of the largest concentration of private capital in the world during the banking crisis. A Marxist doesn't believe in private capital. And wouldn't take action to preserve it.

Obama's actions are explicitly contrary to your assumptions. Invalidating your assumptions.

The OP has never studied Marx, nor does he know the difference between Keynes and Marx, nor does he know that Adam Smith shared many of Marx's criticisms of capitalism, despite being a stronger advocate in the end. Obama abandoned the Public Option because it was too far left and potentially injurious to the current private insurance system; he re-confirmed Bernanke who is a Milton Friedman devote. As you said, he bailed out the capitalist lender while leaving the poor lower class home owner to face "market discipline". Before Obama, Bill Clinton was called the most liberal president ever, yet he had a far right economic team, fucked labor with NAFTA and did more to undermine traditional welfare than any president in the program's history, including Reagan. Before Clinton, Carter was called the most liberal president ever, yet he deregulated transportation and communications and spent nothing compared to Reagan. The OP is a cut-&-paste spambot for the Right. Would love to hear his bio. Probably light on the college end of the spectrum.

For many conservatives, 'Marxist' is just a pejorative. It doesn't actually have a meaning to them, as they have no idea what Marxism actually is. Same goes for 'treason', 'sedition', 'coup', 'socialism', 'fascism', and 'dictator'. Its a sea of poor, ignorant souls who toss the words around as generic insults.....without clue one what the terms actually mean.

Worse, without interest one in finding out.

 

[Vigilante]

Obama sought out Marxist professors in college - Dreams of My Father pg 101


"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structured feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpets or set our stereos so loud the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling conventions. We weren't indifferent, or careless, or insecure. We were alienated.

Obama sought out marxist professors in college

 

[AntiParty]

Have you checked to see big donors that were bank CEO, that got saved?....Why not let us know, before you pat yourself on the back. Jamie Dimon might be a good place to start!

Its your argument. Show me what you've got. But insinuating an argument you clearly haven't done the research to support isn't gonna cut it.

And of course, TARP funds were proposed by Bush as well. Obama agreed with the defacto leader of the Republican party on this issue. And championed the allocation of billions of dollars of tax payer money for the preservation of private capital.

Another major ding to the right wing 'Marxist' fantasy.

Why would I research any of this? I simply state what was in the news. I agree Bush started that bullshit and deserves much of the vilification, Obuma simply played out the hand given to him by STUPID Republicans. It seems Republicans aren't anywhere as diabolical as democrats!

"It seems Republicans aren't anywhere as diabolical as democrats!" I could discuss this for days as Republicans have taken a profit over Humanity way of thinking. Have you seen the cost of war with Iraq since we went there with no proof of WMD's? https://www.nationalpriorities.org/blog/2014/06/20/cost-war-iraq/?gclid=CLW8m-Xt6b8CFc1i7AodH1IAjw Thank god Halliburton, a Construction corporation ran by the VP Cheney was there to rebuild Iraq after our mistake attack............Or maybe FOX NEWS mentioned that Halliburton, part of the Federal Reserve top Corporate leaders is rebuilding Iraq?

 

[Skylar]

Obama sought out Marxist professors in college - Dreams of My Father pg 101


"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structured feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpets or set our stereos so loud the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling conventions. We weren't indifferent, or careless, or insecure. We were alienated.

Obama sought out marxist professors in college

So by that logic, Obama's a Chicano, a punk-rock performance Poet, and a structured feminist?

Laughing.....you really didn't think that through, did you?

 

[bripat9643]

Proof Barack Hussein Obama Is A Marxist - In His Own Words - YouTube

College Acquaintance: Young Obama Was Pure Marxist Socialist: 1/2 - YouTube

I have yet to find any liberals who can refute the evidence that Obama is a Marxist by ideology. Question: Can any liberals on this board deny that Obama is a Marxist, or do you as Democrats agree with the ideology of Marx?

Obama aggressively advocated the preservation of some of the largest concentration of private capital in the world during the banking crisis. A Marxist doesn't believe in private capital. And wouldn't take action to preserve it.

Obama's actions are explicitly contrary to your assumptions. Invalidating your assumptions.

Wrong. Lenin did exactly that in the 1920s. It was called the NEP (New Economic Program) and it was adopted because the attempt to implement full communism resulted in mass starvation.

 

[bripat9643]

Obama sought out Marxist professors in college - Dreams of My Father pg 101


"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structured feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpets or set our stereos so loud the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling conventions. We weren't indifferent, or careless, or insecure. We were alienated.

Obama sought out marxist professors in college

So by that logic, Obama's a Chicano, a punk-rock performance Poet, and a structured feminist?

Laughing.....you really didn't think that through, did you?

All the groups he listed are composed primarily of Marxists.

 

[bripat9643]

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Obama aggressively advocated the preservation of some of the largest concentration of private capital in the world during the banking crisis. A Marxist doesn't believe in private capital. And wouldn't take action to preserve it.

Obama's actions are explicitly contrary to your assumptions. Invalidating your assumptions.

The OP has never studied Marx, nor does he know the difference between Keynes and Marx, nor does he know that Adam Smith shared many of Marx's criticisms of capitalism, despite being a stronger advocate in the end. Obama abandoned the Public Option because it was too far left and potentially injurious to the current private insurance system; he re-confirmed Bernanke who is a Milton Friedman devote. As you said, he bailed out the capitalist lender while leaving the poor lower class home owner to face "market discipline". Before Obama, Bill Clinton was called the most liberal president ever, yet he had a far right economic team, fucked labor with NAFTA and did more to undermine traditional welfare than any president in the program's history, including Reagan. Before Clinton, Carter was called the most liberal president ever, yet he deregulated transportation and communications and spent nothing compared to Reagan. The OP is a cut-&-paste spambot for the Right. Would love to hear his bio. Probably light on the college end of the spectrum.

For many conservatives, 'Marxist' is just a pejorative. It doesn't actually have a meaning to them, as they have no idea what Marxism actually is. Same goes for 'treason', 'sedition', 'coup', 'socialism', 'fascism', and 'dictator'. Its a sea of poor, ignorant souls who toss the words around as generic insults.....without clue one what the terms actually mean.

Worse, without interest one in finding out.

 

[Skylar]

Proof Barack Hussein Obama Is A Marxist - In His Own Words - YouTube

College Acquaintance: Young Obama Was Pure Marxist Socialist: 1/2 - YouTube

I have yet to find any liberals who can refute the evidence that Obama is a Marxist by ideology. Question: Can any liberals on this board deny that Obama is a Marxist, or do you as Democrats agree with the ideology of Marx?

Obama aggressively advocated the preservation of some of the largest concentration of private capital in the world during the banking crisis. A Marxist doesn't believe in private capital. And wouldn't take action to preserve it.

Obama's actions are explicitly contrary to your assumptions. Invalidating your assumptions.

Wrong. Lenin did exactly that in the 1920s. It was called the NEP (New Economic Program) and it was adopted because the attempt to implement full communism resulted in mass starvation.

That's New Economic Policy, not 'Program'. And it involved no expenditure of massive amounts of the people's money for the preservation of private capital in banks. While Obama's TARP program did.

What else have you got?

 

[bripat9643]

Its your argument. Show me what you've got. But insinuating an argument you clearly haven't done the research to support isn't gonna cut it.

And of course, TARP funds were proposed by Bush as well. Obama agreed with the defacto leader of the Republican party on this issue. And championed the allocation of billions of dollars of tax payer money for the preservation of private capital.

Another major ding to the right wing 'Marxist' fantasy.

Why would I research any of this? I simply state what was in the news. I agree Bush started that bullshit and deserves much of the vilification, Obuma simply played out the hand given to him by STUPID Republicans. It seems Republicans aren't anywhere as diabolical as democrats!

I was trying to catch up with the thread to post something informational but read this, "Why would I research any of this? I simply state what was in the news"

^Doesn't know that ABC, NBC and CBS are all on the top donor list to all top politicians.

Journalists who work for those networks donate overwhelmingly to Democrats and also vote for them overwhelmingly. The fact has been documented many times.

 

[bripat9643]

Obama aggressively advocated the preservation of some of the largest concentration of private capital in the world during the banking crisis. A Marxist doesn't believe in private capital. And wouldn't take action to preserve it.

Obama's actions are explicitly contrary to your assumptions. Invalidating your assumptions.

Wrong. Lenin did exactly that in the 1920s. It was called the NEP (New Economic Program) and it was adopted because the attempt to implement full communism resulted in mass starvation.

That's New Economic Policy, not 'Program'. And it involved no expenditure of massive amounts of the people's money for the preservation of private capital in banks. While Obama's TARP program did.

What else have you got?

Now you're moving the goal posts. That's because you realize I just proved you're an ignoramus and a jackass.

One thing is obvious, those who suck Obama's dick will never admit the truth that he's a commie who hates America.

 

[Skylar]

Obama sought out Marxist professors in college - Dreams of My Father pg 101


"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structured feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpets or set our stereos so loud the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling conventions. We weren't indifferent, or careless, or insecure. We were alienated.

Obama sought out marxist professors in college

So by that logic, Obama's a Chicano, a punk-rock performance Poet, and a structured feminist?

Laughing.....you really didn't think that through, did you?

All the groups he listed are composed primarily of Marxists.

Says who? You....you do realize that just pulling shyte sideways out of your ass doesn't actually amount to actual evidence, right?

But hey, maybe you can actually connect your claims to reality. Show us the evidence that Chicanos are composed primarily of marxists. And Punk Rock Performance Poets. And structured feminists.

 

[Skylar]

Wrong. Lenin did exactly that in the 1920s. It was called the NEP (New Economic Program) and it was adopted because the attempt to implement full communism resulted in mass starvation.

That's New Economic Policy, not 'Program'. And it involved no expenditure of massive amounts of the people's money for the preservation of private capital in banks. While Obama's TARP program did.

What else have you got?

Now you're moving the goal posts. That's because you realize I just proved you're an ignoramus and a jackass.

One thing is obvious, those who suck Obama's dick will never admit the truth that he's a commie who hates America.

No, my goal posts are in the exact same place. I cited a specific action that Obama performed that a Marxist never would: spending billions and billions of the people's money to preserve some of the largest concentrations of private capital in history.

Lenin never did this.

Next.

 

[Skylar]

Why would I research any of this? I simply state what was in the news. I agree Bush started that bullshit and deserves much of the vilification, Obuma simply played out the hand given to him by STUPID Republicans. It seems Republicans aren't anywhere as diabolical as democrats!

I was trying to catch up with the thread to post something informational but read this, "Why would I research any of this? I simply state what was in the news"

^Doesn't know that ABC, NBC and CBS are all on the top donor list to all top politicians.

Journalists who work for those networks donate overwhelmingly to Democrats and also vote for them overwhelmingly. The fact has been documented many times.

With journalists making up a tiny fraction of the total programming. You're cherry picking....and irrelevantly. As nothing you've said in anyway supports the absurd idea that Obama is a marxist.

But then, nothing you've posted supports the idea that you're even aware what a Marxist is. So what should I expect?