Obama Killed Coal

[Wyatt earp]

And the jobs in coal are going away from two sources. They are building no more coal fired plants, and it takes fewer people to mind the coal that is needed.

Another breaking news by old rocks we figured out how to make productivity more efficient..


You should of told Henry Ford that..


Dumb ass.


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[Old Rocks]

Well now, if you are going to do that, you had best slow down a bit and collect your other wit. Because that is how you are coming across.

No I will go off the chain you little piece of shit..

So tell us old rocks do you know the economics of totatly revamping the US manufacturing ..who will pay?

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Why, the companies, of course. If they are to remain competative, they have to upgrade their machinery, which will produce more cheaply with less employees. And, by the way, those companies pay their people that build, maintain, and repair their equipment very well. I know, I am one of them.

We know you suck at your job..
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The only people whose opinions matter on that are the people in the supervisory positions at the place of my employment. What you think isn't worth shit.

I see what I see what you write..you post shit like glaciers are melting..


No shit Sherlock glaciers have been melting since the last ice age..



Breaking news by old rocks ice melts


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Now you poor little excitable ass, the thread is about the fact that the present technology is killing jobs in coal mining, and will eventually eliminate mining for coal fired electrical generation. And all your spittle on the keyboard will make no difference.

 

[Old Rocks]

And the jobs in coal are going away from two sources. They are building no more coal fired plants, and it takes fewer people to mind the coal that is needed.

Another breaking news by old rocks we figured out how to make productivity more efficient..


You should of told Henry Ford that..


Dumb ass.


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I see. So now you are admitting that the coal jobs are not coming back. I guess you are capable of learning something, after all.

 

[Wyatt earp]

What happened to your precious grid battery , what happened to your God damn solar and wind stupid fuck?


Why are you trying to use a fossil fuel to promote your hoax dick wad?


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Wind and solar both growing at double digit compound rates year by year. Tesla is already installing grid scale batteries, as are other companies around the world. A new technology that will grow as fast as solar and wind have.

Grid scale battery's are at least 50 years to 500 years in the future.. If ever..

Quit lying

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Tesla Needs Just 3 Months To Complete World’s Largest Grid Storage Facility
January 31st, 2017 by Steve Hanley

Tesla has just completed the world’s largest battery grid storage facility and did it all in about three months from start to finish. The installation consists of 396 Tesla Powerpack units, each with 16,000 lithium ion battery cells, for a total of 210 kilowatt-hours of capacity in each Powerpack. In total, this one 20 megawatt/80 megawatt-hour installation is equivalent to 15% of all the installed grid storage presently available in the entire world.

The project came about after Southern California Edison, which is the primary utility in southern California, experienced a major ecological disaster at a natural gas fired peaker plant located in Aliso Canyon near the Los Angeles neighborhood of Porter Ranch. It released thousands of tons of methane into the air before it was sealed last February, according to Bloomberg. Peaker plants are electrical generating stations that remain idle most of the day but are brought online to meet demands that exceed baseload capability, usually in the late afternoon and early evening.

“Batteries can…..meet peak demands with lower emissions than natural gas fired peakers by charging during low demand periods when excess wind and solar energy is being generated, and discharging during peak demand periods, which displaces the need to burn incremental natural gas in a peaker,” said Colin Cushnie, SCE vice president of energy procurement and management, in 2015. California is pressing all utility companies to add dramatically to the amount of renewable energy they produce and distribute.

The new facility is smaller, more flexible, and easier to expand than a peaker power plants. It also requires far less permitting than a normal peaker plant, especially in California which has adopted aggressive greenhouse gas emissions standards that are among the most rigorous in the nation. The speed with which the project was completed is almost as important as the cost. The facility can power 2,500 homes all day or 15,000 homes for four hours.

Tesla Needs Just 3 Months To Complete World’s Largest Grid Storage Facility

Powerpack units, each with 16,000 lithium ion battery cells,



Oh I am impressed 16,000 double D battery's ?

Lithium that's in my phone ?


Embarrassing.



And that's new fucking technology?


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LOL And Elon Musk continues to make millions of dollars while you more that likely make less than I do. Yes, lots of individual batteries. But there are other designs that use a different technology. Which will be the one we use remains to be seen. In the meantime, Tesla is selling and installing grid scale batteries.

I knew this was it was all about, you do know telsa is dead right and Musk is just using his name for a wild Western snake oil game? Musk is like Steve ...





You can't see that can you?


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[Wyatt earp]

And the jobs in coal are going away from two sources. They are building no more coal fired plants, and it takes fewer people to mind the coal that is needed.

Another breaking news by old rocks we figured out how to make productivity more efficient..


You should of told Henry Ford that..


Dumb ass.


.

I see. So now you are admitting that the coal jobs are not coming back. I guess you are capable of learning something, after all.

What?

Jobs will come back.if we throw you assholes who.want to make electricity more expensive with your cap and trade game ..of carbon

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[Old Rocks]

See all those cars by that huge building? That is the Tesla battery factory, and those are employees cars. And that factory is still expanding. Jobs. A La Musk. And then there is SpaceX.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Wind and solar both growing at double digit compound rates year by year. Tesla is already installing grid scale batteries, as are other companies around the world. A new technology that will grow as fast as solar and wind have.

Grid scale battery's are at least 50 years to 500 years in the future.. If ever..

Quit lying

.

Tesla Needs Just 3 Months To Complete World’s Largest Grid Storage Facility
January 31st, 2017 by Steve Hanley

Tesla has just completed the world’s largest battery grid storage facility and did it all in about three months from start to finish. The installation consists of 396 Tesla Powerpack units, each with 16,000 lithium ion battery cells, for a total of 210 kilowatt-hours of capacity in each Powerpack. In total, this one 20 megawatt/80 megawatt-hour installation is equivalent to 15% of all the installed grid storage presently available in the entire world.

The project came about after Southern California Edison, which is the primary utility in southern California, experienced a major ecological disaster at a natural gas fired peaker plant located in Aliso Canyon near the Los Angeles neighborhood of Porter Ranch. It released thousands of tons of methane into the air before it was sealed last February, according to Bloomberg. Peaker plants are electrical generating stations that remain idle most of the day but are brought online to meet demands that exceed baseload capability, usually in the late afternoon and early evening.

“Batteries can…..meet peak demands with lower emissions than natural gas fired peakers by charging during low demand periods when excess wind and solar energy is being generated, and discharging during peak demand periods, which displaces the need to burn incremental natural gas in a peaker,” said Colin Cushnie, SCE vice president of energy procurement and management, in 2015. California is pressing all utility companies to add dramatically to the amount of renewable energy they produce and distribute.

The new facility is smaller, more flexible, and easier to expand than a peaker power plants. It also requires far less permitting than a normal peaker plant, especially in California which has adopted aggressive greenhouse gas emissions standards that are among the most rigorous in the nation. The speed with which the project was completed is almost as important as the cost. The facility can power 2,500 homes all day or 15,000 homes for four hours.

Tesla Needs Just 3 Months To Complete World’s Largest Grid Storage Facility

Powerpack units, each with 16,000 lithium ion battery cells,



Oh I am impressed 16,000 double D battery's ?

Lithium that's in my phone ?


Embarrassing.



And that's new fucking technology?


.

LOL And Elon Musk continues to make millions of dollars while you more that likely make less than I do. Yes, lots of individual batteries. But there are other designs that use a different technology. Which will be the one we use remains to be seen. In the meantime, Tesla is selling and installing grid scale batteries.

I knew this was it was all about, you do know telsa is dead right and Musk is just using his name for a wild Western snake oil game? Musk is like Steve ...





You can't see that can you?


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Musk is a scientific idiot, no where near like telsa.. He is using his God damn name...and his name only.


...for money..

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[Old Rocks]

And the jobs in coal are going away from two sources. They are building no more coal fired plants, and it takes fewer people to mind the coal that is needed.

Another breaking news by old rocks we figured out how to make productivity more efficient..


You should of told Henry Ford that..


Dumb ass.


.

I see. So now you are admitting that the coal jobs are not coming back. I guess you are capable of learning something, after all.

What?

Jobs will come back.if we throw you assholes who.want to make electricity more expensive with your cap and trade game ..of carbon

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LOL Ah well, I was overly optimistic. No, coal jobs are not coming back. And the jobs of tomorrow that pay a good upper middle class rate will require more than just a high school education. But, we can cut the education funds in this nation, and just import educated workers from India, China, and Mexico. LOL

 

[Wyatt earp]

See all those cars by that huge building? That is the Tesla battery factory, and those are employees cars. And that factory is still expanding. Jobs. A La Musk. And then there is SpaceX.

He is a media whore and how dare you old rocks try to put him in the same category as the great telsa...
Musk is like Bell...who didn't do shit except rip off others .


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[Old Rocks]

Grid scale battery's are at least 50 years to 500 years in the future.. If ever..

Quit lying

.

Tesla Needs Just 3 Months To Complete World’s Largest Grid Storage Facility
January 31st, 2017 by Steve Hanley

Tesla has just completed the world’s largest battery grid storage facility and did it all in about three months from start to finish. The installation consists of 396 Tesla Powerpack units, each with 16,000 lithium ion battery cells, for a total of 210 kilowatt-hours of capacity in each Powerpack. In total, this one 20 megawatt/80 megawatt-hour installation is equivalent to 15% of all the installed grid storage presently available in the entire world.

The project came about after Southern California Edison, which is the primary utility in southern California, experienced a major ecological disaster at a natural gas fired peaker plant located in Aliso Canyon near the Los Angeles neighborhood of Porter Ranch. It released thousands of tons of methane into the air before it was sealed last February, according to Bloomberg. Peaker plants are electrical generating stations that remain idle most of the day but are brought online to meet demands that exceed baseload capability, usually in the late afternoon and early evening.

“Batteries can…..meet peak demands with lower emissions than natural gas fired peakers by charging during low demand periods when excess wind and solar energy is being generated, and discharging during peak demand periods, which displaces the need to burn incremental natural gas in a peaker,” said Colin Cushnie, SCE vice president of energy procurement and management, in 2015. California is pressing all utility companies to add dramatically to the amount of renewable energy they produce and distribute.

The new facility is smaller, more flexible, and easier to expand than a peaker power plants. It also requires far less permitting than a normal peaker plant, especially in California which has adopted aggressive greenhouse gas emissions standards that are among the most rigorous in the nation. The speed with which the project was completed is almost as important as the cost. The facility can power 2,500 homes all day or 15,000 homes for four hours.

Tesla Needs Just 3 Months To Complete World’s Largest Grid Storage Facility

Powerpack units, each with 16,000 lithium ion battery cells,



Oh I am impressed 16,000 double D battery's ?

Lithium that's in my phone ?


Embarrassing.



And that's new fucking technology?


.

LOL And Elon Musk continues to make millions of dollars while you more that likely make less than I do. Yes, lots of individual batteries. But there are other designs that use a different technology. Which will be the one we use remains to be seen. In the meantime, Tesla is selling and installing grid scale batteries.

I knew this was it was all about, you do know telsa is dead right and Musk is just using his name for a wild Western snake oil game? Musk is like Steve ...





You can't see that can you?


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Musk is a scientific idiot, no where near like telsa.. He is using his God damn name...and his name only.


...for money..

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Why yes, he is making a lot of money. And has managed to build reusable rockets, a car made in America by American workers, whose top price with all the bells and whistles, is 150k, and competes and wins against 500K European cars. And has over 400,000 people that have already put their money down for a Tesla 3. Yes, Elon Musk is a big dreamer, and is good at making a lot of money. Good on him.

 

[Wyatt earp]

And the jobs in coal are going away from two sources. They are building no more coal fired plants, and it takes fewer people to mind the coal that is needed.

Another breaking news by old rocks we figured out how to make productivity more efficient..


You should of told Henry Ford that..


Dumb ass.


.

I see. So now you are admitting that the coal jobs are not coming back. I guess you are capable of learning something, after all.

What?

Jobs will come back.if we throw you assholes who.want to make electricity more expensive with your cap and trade game ..of carbon

.

LOL Ah well, I was overly optimistic. No, coal jobs are not coming back. And the jobs of tomorrow that pay a good upper middle class rate will require more than just a high school education. But, we can cut the education funds in this nation, and just import educated workers from India, China, and Mexico. LOL

It's real easy to get coal jobs back just throw your dumb ass off the mountain

So you dont want to talk Musk no more and his bullshit he is as smart as telsa?


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[Old Rocks]

See all those cars by that huge building? That is the Tesla battery factory, and those are employees cars. And that factory is still expanding. Jobs. A La Musk. And then there is SpaceX.

He is a media whore and how dare you old rocks try to put him in the same category as the great telsa...
Musk is like Bell...who didn't do shit except rip off others .


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Well, railing about the most successful blue sky American Entrepeneur is not going to bring back the coal jobs. They are in the same category as buggy whip manufacturers.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Tesla Needs Just 3 Months To Complete World’s Largest Grid Storage Facility
January 31st, 2017 by Steve Hanley

Tesla has just completed the world’s largest battery grid storage facility and did it all in about three months from start to finish. The installation consists of 396 Tesla Powerpack units, each with 16,000 lithium ion battery cells, for a total of 210 kilowatt-hours of capacity in each Powerpack. In total, this one 20 megawatt/80 megawatt-hour installation is equivalent to 15% of all the installed grid storage presently available in the entire world.

The project came about after Southern California Edison, which is the primary utility in southern California, experienced a major ecological disaster at a natural gas fired peaker plant located in Aliso Canyon near the Los Angeles neighborhood of Porter Ranch. It released thousands of tons of methane into the air before it was sealed last February, according to Bloomberg. Peaker plants are electrical generating stations that remain idle most of the day but are brought online to meet demands that exceed baseload capability, usually in the late afternoon and early evening.

“Batteries can…..meet peak demands with lower emissions than natural gas fired peakers by charging during low demand periods when excess wind and solar energy is being generated, and discharging during peak demand periods, which displaces the need to burn incremental natural gas in a peaker,” said Colin Cushnie, SCE vice president of energy procurement and management, in 2015. California is pressing all utility companies to add dramatically to the amount of renewable energy they produce and distribute.

The new facility is smaller, more flexible, and easier to expand than a peaker power plants. It also requires far less permitting than a normal peaker plant, especially in California which has adopted aggressive greenhouse gas emissions standards that are among the most rigorous in the nation. The speed with which the project was completed is almost as important as the cost. The facility can power 2,500 homes all day or 15,000 homes for four hours.

Tesla Needs Just 3 Months To Complete World’s Largest Grid Storage Facility

Powerpack units, each with 16,000 lithium ion battery cells,



Oh I am impressed 16,000 double D battery's ?

Lithium that's in my phone ?


Embarrassing.



And that's new fucking technology?


.

LOL And Elon Musk continues to make millions of dollars while you more that likely make less than I do. Yes, lots of individual batteries. But there are other designs that use a different technology. Which will be the one we use remains to be seen. In the meantime, Tesla is selling and installing grid scale batteries.

I knew this was it was all about, you do know telsa is dead right and Musk is just using his name for a wild Western snake oil game? Musk is like Steve ...





You can't see that can you?


.

Musk is a scientific idiot, no where near like telsa.. He is using his God damn name...and his name only.


...for money..

.

Why yes, he is making a lot of money. And has managed to build reusable rockets, a car made in America by American workers, whose top price with all the bells and whistles, is 150k, and competes and wins against 500K European cars. And has over 400,000 people that have already put their money down for a Tesla 3. Yes, Elon Musk is a big dreamer, and is good at making a lot of money. Good on him.

What? Once again you think it's that complicated to hook up a battery to an electric motor and make it run fast?

That's 2nd grade shit.

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[Old Rocks]

And the jobs in coal are going away from two sources. They are building no more coal fired plants, and it takes fewer people to mind the coal that is needed.

Another breaking news by old rocks we figured out how to make productivity more efficient..


You should of told Henry Ford that..


Dumb ass.


.

I see. So now you are admitting that the coal jobs are not coming back. I guess you are capable of learning something, after all.

What?

Jobs will come back.if we throw you assholes who.want to make electricity more expensive with your cap and trade game ..of carbon

.

LOL Ah well, I was overly optimistic. No, coal jobs are not coming back. And the jobs of tomorrow that pay a good upper middle class rate will require more than just a high school education. But, we can cut the education funds in this nation, and just import educated workers from India, China, and Mexico. LOL

It's real easy to get coal jobs back just throw your dumb ass off the mountain

So you dont want to talk Musk no more and his bullshit he is as smart as telsa?


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LOL That last six pack has done you in. I made no reference comparing Musk to the engineer, Tesla. The Tesla I spoke of is an automotive brand. Quite clear in my posts about that. Best you go to bed and sleep it off. I think you are losing that other wit.

 

[Old Rocks]

Good night, silly ass.

 

[Aletheia4u]

Innovation, natural gas and wind, and solar fucking destroyed coal.

Coal can't compete! Capitalism baby!

I think that people should actually finds out for themselves what is coal and where it comes from. Big corporations put out disinformation about coal so that they can move from it and lean towards GMO algae. Methane is natural gas that comes from cxoal beds. But corporation that is trying to push GMO algae that will destroy our earth atmosphere, to make it sounds as if methane (Greenhouse gas) is bad, and that GMO algae and yeast is a good replacement for fossil fuels. And then they wants to also sell their GMO rice and make it mandatory that all farmers must use it to help save the planet. That is why they are pushing this scare rhetoric about climate change.
But are climate has been changing due to them that they already experimenting with by putting all sorts of chemicals into our earth atmosphere that is causing this strange weather patterns.
But them they tells us that coals is the problem.


Natural gas is found in deep underground rock formations or associated with other hydrocarbon reservoirs in coal beds and as methane clathrates. Natural gas - Wikipedia

Coal gas is a flammable gaseous fuel made from coal and supplied to the user via a piped distribution system. Town gas is a more general term referring to manufactured gaseous fuels produced for sale to consumers and municipalities. Coal gas - Wikipedia

Coal gas contains a variety of calorific gases including hydrogen, carbon monoxide, methane and volatile hydrocarbons together with small quantities of non-calorific gases such as carbon dioxide and nitrogen. Coal gas - Wikipedia

Coal is a fossil fuel and is the altered remains of prehistoric vegetation that originally accumulated in swamps and peat bogs. The energy we get from coal today comes from the energy that plants absorbed from the sun millions of years ago. What is coal?

Biofuel breakthrough: scientists use GMO yeast to produce fuel

Genetically modified algae could soon show up in food, fuel, and pharmaceuticals Genetically modified algae could soon show up in food, fuel, and pharmaceuticals

http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-gmo-rice-methane-emissions-20150722-story.html

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[bodecea]

Natural gas killed coal. Lots of things killed coal. How does Trump think he's going to bring it back? How do coal miners not know this?

Trump knew he'd never have to follow through on anything. If he's still President in 2020, he'll probably recycle the exact same comments.

And the rubes will lap it up.

 

[Crixus]

The Majority of power produced in this country is produced by coal fired power plants, natural gas is a close second.
Renewable energy is decades away from being reliable and affordable… Fact

When you think of coal mining, don't be a dip shit. Wyoming is the mother load not the northeast and it's open pit not underground tunnels. idiots

Gillette Wyoming is a good excample of that. One can learn allot about coal there. When you drive in your can see the dust clouds hanging over the plains. When I was there the frac boom was in full swing so coal and shale/kill sand was taking up all the workers. It was so bad that all the retail places could not find workers. Even the state prision a and law enforcement could not compete with coal and oil for employees. They still recruit out of state.

 

[Kondor3]

...why are you against cheap energy that the left hindered through laws and regulations?..

Nobody is against cheap energy.

Lots of people, however, are against cheap energy that belches coal-smoke and sulfur dioxide and high concentrations of particular matter into the atmosphere that are scientifically proven to cause respiratory diseases and to induce death in sufficiently high concentrations such as that seen in London in the 1950s and Beijing today.

...Why do you hate the poor people of the world?.

It is out of concern for the poor people of the world whom you would have breathing coal smoke, as well as the impact upon global atmospherics, that coal is being resisted.

 

[danielpalos]

We need a public policy to "migrate" Labor from the fossil fuel sector to these sectors:

America has near record 5.8 million job openings