Obama Laying Foundation for Gun Registry

"But if Obama acts without Congress’ approval to expand background checks to person-to-person gun transfers among fellow gun enthusiasts, he will in effect be laying the foundation for a national gun registry, critics say. And they’re preparing to push back hard against any such measures."

Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday


So why is Trump suggesting creating a national registry to be shared between government agencies to keep track of all Visa applicants coming into the US, which would fix the acknowledged broken US Visa Program, getting condemnation from Liberals, but they have no problem with Obama creating a gun registry program targeting law abiding citizens (as you can bet criminals and terrorists will NOT be participating in the program)?!

Alarm bells should be going off in people's heads with this 'Generalissimo Obama' move....

"As in Weimar Germany, some well-meaning people today advocate severe restrictions, including bans and registration, on gun ownership by law-abiding persons. Such proponents are in no sense “Nazis,” any more than were the Weimar officials who promoted similar restrictions."
- How the Nazis Used Gun Control, by Stephen P. Halbrook, National Review

As said, though, 'Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to REPEAT the past.'

Colorado enacted these same gun laws back in 2012-2013. It's really not that bad. What everyone was pissed off about in this state was the reduced clip that they enforced, not the extended background checks. 3 democrats were recalled over the clip rule, which was ridiculous.

So our laws require that everyone that purchases a gun has to go through a background check. IOW if you're a private seller, or just want to sell your gun you go to a Federal Licensed gun dealer, like a pawn shop and they'll put it on consignment. In my state if you purchase a gun on-line it will be shipped to a Federal Licensed gun dealer and you can pick it up after you go through a background check. All gun shows are handled in the same manner. It really didn't create any problems for those eligible to purchase a gun to buy a gun.

REALLY--the only ones that are going to be upset about these new extended background checks are people who couldn't pass the background check.

In order to protect the 2nd amendment, it's only common sense that responsible gun owners would want to do everything they can to keep them out of the wrong hands. On the local news tonight, last year in my state 357 people that applied to for a background check to purchase a gun, actually had active warrants out on them and were arrested on the spot.

9 out of 10 gun owners want extended background checks.
90 percent of Americans want expanded background checks on guns. Why isn’t this a political slam dunk?

So Republicans need to be very careful on challenging Barack Obama's executive order on this one.

The best way to "protect" the 2nd Amendment is to exercise and apply the 2nd Amendment.

I have little problem with background checks, but the fact is Obama does not have the comstitutional authority to create, change, or clarify law. Period.

That is enough to elicit opposition.
 
You can bet that gun owners will line up to register.

"Me? Nah. Those guns disappeared long ago. A big bright light came, and then they were gone."
you think that many people would be willing to have contraband in their homes? to sell or transfer those illegal weapons? i very much doubt it. people would register.

You underestimate our resolve

-Geaux


indeed..........progressives have no clue about this. Any effort to have our guns registered is a game changer. The country changes forever. The politicians know it too......so wont be happening.
 
that change was already done with obamacare MANDATE , imagine that , being ordered to buy a product because the govenment says to buy the product or else . --------------------------- and NO , 'obamacare' is not like car insurance !!
 
......other than firearm registration is absolutely 100% unconstitutional
Precedent and prior (and change-able) rulings aside...

Why would firearms registration be 'unconstitutional'?


Felons do not have to register illegal guns...Haynes v. United States....so if criminals can't be required to register guns on the principal that they would be violating their 5th Amendment right against self incrimination.....then the same would also apply for law,abiding citizens.......


Otherwise...only criminals would be legally exempt from registering guns......

Does that make any sense to anyone with half a brain...or a lefty....who has no brain....?

Talk about misleading info.

That case was about the 5th amendment right against self incrimination. A legal gun owner is not incriminating himself .



How do you know until the gun is registered…

And it makes sense to you that if you require by law that normal, law abiding citizens must register their legal guns….or face jail, fines, and job loss…..that actual felons and other criminals would be completely exempt from that requirement and those penalties…..really? That makes sense to you?
 
What's wrong wh a gun registry ? Some silly claim that Feds are gonna "come get you" .


it wasn't silly for the Germans, the British or the Australians..and all the countries that registered guns...and then later confiscated them..

guys....there is an actual track record on this....registration is solely for later banning and confiscation.....

Those other countries don't have our constitution .

You righties don't get all in a tizzy when u want special state issued IDS to vote . But a gun registry goes to far ? Playa please !


IDs simply state who you are to make sure you are the one voting for you…they are provided free of charge if you can't afford them since you can't charge a Poll Tax to vote, and if you can't get to a government building to get it……at the governments expense they send someone to you…….

Completely different than charging people for the right to own guns..which is a violation of the 14th Amendment, the 2nd amendment and probably others as well…….
 
"But if Obama acts without Congress’ approval to expand background checks to person-to-person gun transfers among fellow gun enthusiasts, he will in effect be laying the foundation for a national gun registry, critics say. And they’re preparing to push back hard against any such measures."

Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday


So why is Trump suggesting creating a national registry to be shared between government agencies to keep track of all Visa applicants coming into the US, which would fix the acknowledged broken US Visa Program, getting condemnation from Liberals, but they have no problem with Obama creating a gun registry program targeting law abiding citizens (as you can bet criminals and terrorists will NOT be participating in the program)?!

Alarm bells should be going off in people's heads with this 'Generalissimo Obama' move....

"As in Weimar Germany, some well-meaning people today advocate severe restrictions, including bans and registration, on gun ownership by law-abiding persons. Such proponents are in no sense “Nazis,” any more than were the Weimar officials who promoted similar restrictions."
- How the Nazis Used Gun Control, by Stephen P. Halbrook, National Review

As said, though, 'Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to REPEAT the past.'

Colorado enacted these same gun laws back in 2012-2013. It's really not that bad. What everyone was pissed off about in this state was the reduced clip that they enforced, not the extended background checks. 3 democrats were recalled over the clip rule, which was ridiculous.

So our laws require that everyone that purchases a gun has to go through a background check. IOW if you're a private seller, or just want to sell your gun you go to a Federal Licensed gun dealer, like a pawn shop and they'll put it on consignment. In my state if you purchase a gun on-line it will be shipped to a Federal Licensed gun dealer and you can pick it up after you go through a background check. All gun shows are handled in the same manner. It really didn't create any problems for those eligible to purchase a gun to buy a gun.

REALLY--the only ones that are going to be upset about these new extended background checks are people who couldn't pass the background check.

In order to protect the 2nd amendment, it's only common sense that responsible gun owners would want to do everything they can to keep them out of the wrong hands. On the local news tonight, last year in my state 357 people that applied to for a background check to purchase a gun, actually had active warrants out on them and were arrested on the spot.

9 out of 10 gun owners want extended background checks.
90 percent of Americans want expanded background checks on guns. Why isn’t this a political slam dunk?

So Republicans need to be very careful on challenging Barack Obama's executive order on this one.
REALLY--the only ones that are going to be upset about these new extended background checks are people who couldn't pass the background check.

Active warrants means parking tickets or late on child support……actual criminals do not go through background checks, they steal their guns or get someone with a clean record to buy the gun for them…thereby making background checks useless…….

the 90% of gun owners are not aware of what universal background checks actually means…..that their ability to sell a gun to their son, father, or other relative now needs a fee to get a background check done…and if they don't…if they sell that gun to a family member they already know is not a felon….they will both become felons on the spot……having harmed no one and not having used the gun to commit a crime…

They will no longer be able to just hand a gun to a friend at a firing range….that to will require a background check…..

And the only way to monitor background checks for private sales….registering all guns…..run that past that 90% and see how that polls…….

And also, you will no longer be able to take gun safety classes in a small setting…you will have to go to a big gun store so they can run background checks on you even though you will not own or buy a gun for the class…..
 
"But if Obama acts without Congress’ approval to expand background checks to person-to-person gun transfers among fellow gun enthusiasts, he will in effect be laying the foundation for a national gun registry, critics say. And they’re preparing to push back hard against any such measures."

Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday


So why is Trump suggesting creating a national registry to be shared between government agencies to keep track of all Visa applicants coming into the US, which would fix the acknowledged broken US Visa Program, getting condemnation from Liberals, but they have no problem with Obama creating a gun registry program targeting law abiding citizens (as you can bet criminals and terrorists will NOT be participating in the program)?!

Alarm bells should be going off in people's heads with this 'Generalissimo Obama' move....

"As in Weimar Germany, some well-meaning people today advocate severe restrictions, including bans and registration, on gun ownership by law-abiding persons. Such proponents are in no sense “Nazis,” any more than were the Weimar officials who promoted similar restrictions."
- How the Nazis Used Gun Control, by Stephen P. Halbrook, National Review

As said, though, 'Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to REPEAT the past.'

Colorado enacted these same gun laws back in 2012-2013. It's really not that bad. What everyone was pissed off about in this state was the reduced clip that they enforced, not the extended background checks. 3 democrats were recalled over the clip rule, which was ridiculous.

So our laws require that everyone that purchases a gun has to go through a background check. IOW if you're a private seller, or just want to sell your gun you go to a Federal Licensed gun dealer, like a pawn shop and they'll put it on consignment. In my state if you purchase a gun on-line it will be shipped to a Federal Licensed gun dealer and you can pick it up after you go through a background check. All gun shows are handled in the same manner. It really didn't create any problems for those eligible to purchase a gun to buy a gun.

REALLY--the only ones that are going to be upset about these new extended background checks are people who couldn't pass the background check.

In order to protect the 2nd amendment, it's only common sense that responsible gun owners would want to do everything they can to keep them out of the wrong hands. On the local news tonight, last year in my state 357 people that applied to for a background check to purchase a gun, actually had active warrants out on them and were arrested on the spot.

9 out of 10 gun owners want extended background checks.
90 percent of Americans want expanded background checks on guns. Why isn’t this a political slam dunk?

So Republicans need to be very careful on challenging Barack Obama's executive order on this one.
What everyone was pissed off about in this state was the reduced clip that they enforced, not the extended background checks.

The reduced magazine size was a gun ban by other means…..and people in Colorado are already ignoring the magazine limit by buying their magazines out of state…there is no way to enforce it…..but if you get caught……you will suffer penalties for having a magazine…a legal product…..you will have hurt no one, you will have not used that magazine to commit a crime…but you will face criminal prosecution for owning a legal product…….

That is smart to you?
 
"But if Obama acts without Congress’ approval to expand background checks to person-to-person gun transfers among fellow gun enthusiasts, he will in effect be laying the foundation for a national gun registry, critics say. And they’re preparing to push back hard against any such measures."

Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday


So why is Trump suggesting creating a national registry to be shared between government agencies to keep track of all Visa applicants coming into the US, which would fix the acknowledged broken US Visa Program, getting condemnation from Liberals, but they have no problem with Obama creating a gun registry program targeting law abiding citizens (as you can bet criminals and terrorists will NOT be participating in the program)?!

Alarm bells should be going off in people's heads with this 'Generalissimo Obama' move....

"As in Weimar Germany, some well-meaning people today advocate severe restrictions, including bans and registration, on gun ownership by law-abiding persons. Such proponents are in no sense “Nazis,” any more than were the Weimar officials who promoted similar restrictions."
- How the Nazis Used Gun Control, by Stephen P. Halbrook, National Review

As said, though, 'Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to REPEAT the past.'

There already is a national gun registry--DA DUH. The Federal Government is NOT coming for your guns. It's not going to happen, it never will.

Look these are the same laws that my state in Colorado enacted back in 2012-2013. They're not that bad. Everyone here was pissed off over the clip rule, which was ridiculous, not the extended background checks.

We can't have mentally unstable people fully loaded walking into movie theater's shooting up the place. That's not what the 2nd amendment intended.


If you pass the extended background check you're fine to buy a gun in Colorado. It doesn't take that long to go through the background check. Our rights have not been violated in any way. In Colorado if you want to sell your gun you just take it to a Federal Licensed dealer, typically a pawn shop and they will put it on consignment for you. No private transfers. If you want to buy a gun on-line the gun is shipped to a Federal Licensed dealer and when you pick it up you are required to do the background check. Guns shows the same way. It's really not that bad.

The only people that are not going to like this, are the people who cannot pass the extended background test. Last year in Colorado 357 people with active warrants tried to purchase a gun and were arrested on the spot due to the extended background check. If they can't pass the extended background test, then why in the hell would you want them to have a gun?

If you want to PROTECT the 2nd amendment, then any responsible gun owner would want to do everything they can to keep guns out of the wrong hands. That's just common horse sense.

9 out of 10 gun owners want extended background checks.
90 percent of Americans want expanded background checks on guns. Why isn’t this a political slam dunk?

Republicans would be really STUPID to challenge this new executive order. If they do, they'll go down in flames with it.

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94% of initial refusals of background checks still went through…since actual criminals do not go through background checks to get their guns….

And arresting people with warrants for traffic tickets and failure to pay child support is not what background checks are meant to stop…….actual violent felons are not getting caught…they get their guns by stealing them and by getting straw buyers to get them……avoiding your background checks.
We can't have mentally unstable people fully loaded walking into movie theater's shooting up the place. That's not what the 2nd amendment intended.


So you want your doctor to be able to take your guns if they don't like the way you answer questions in their office? Your general practitioner……and not a mental health expert…right? How are you feeling today….Well Doc, I am pretty mad today because the wife wants her mother in law to visit….the Doc then reports you to the FBI for fear you might murder your family…right? They now have the power to do that.

And all the mass shooters……..would have passed background checks…and the ones who couldn't, got guns by stealing them……..

And exactly how many mentally unstable people shoot up movie theaters….?

In 2014 there were a total of 4 mass public shootings….2 were by mulsim terrorists, with a total of 36 killed.

Out of a country of over 320 million people, with over 357 million guns in private hands……and you want to surrender your privacy between your doctor and you to the FBI…….on his decision……as a general practitioner….really?
 
But alas, the democrats of the south started the last Civil War.

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And what do the Dems of 1861 have in common with Dems in 2016. Nada...

Now them and the Neocons of 2016. now there's a marriage made in heaven


No….the dems of 1861 differ from dems in 2016 only in tactics…..and the types of racists in their party….all of the core groups of the dems in 2016 are openly and proudly racist…….and are composed of racists of every race….and the current democrat President…is himself a racist…who sat in a racist church for 20 years…an openly, proudly racist church………

Instead of enslaving just blacks, the modern democrats want to enslave all races….and they changed tactics to achieve this end.
 
I think a lot of problems will be solved once federal background checks are undone. I think clinton came up with the law. It needs to be repealed just like Obamacare.
 
What's wrong wh a gun registry ? Some silly claim that Feds are gonna "come get you" .


it wasn't silly for the Germans, the British or the Australians..and all the countries that registered guns...and then later confiscated them..

guys....there is an actual track record on this....registration is solely for later banning and confiscation.....

Those other countries don't have our constitution .

You righties don't get all in a tizzy when u want special state issued IDS to vote . But a gun registry goes to far ? Playa please !


IDs simply state who you are to make sure you are the one voting for you…they are provided free of charge if you can't afford them since you can't charge a Poll Tax to vote, and if you can't get to a government building to get it……at the governments expense they send someone to you…….

Completely different than charging people for the right to own guns..which is a violation of the 14th Amendment, the 2nd amendment and probably others as well…….

There are lots of ways to ID . And we've been voting that way since before the bill of rights were even written.

Did our founding fathers have to show state sanctioned photo IDS?
 

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