Obama says to Christians "Get off your high horse, you used to kill people too"

[Menerva Lindsen]

Obama is a complete embarrassment as a President. Was he just trying to piss off Christians? For what purpose? I'm not a Christian and it pissed me off.

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Obama seems not to be a Muslim at all. There are so many guesses about his confession. I really wonder which God does he believe in?

 

[Rozman]

Obama says after he deals with ISIS he's gonna get in his time machine and go back in time to deal
with the Christians during the Crusades....

 

[JQPublic1]

Obama told the truth and his bold indictment was not Faux News! I' am proud of a president who stands up and tells the truth for a change instead of telling "pseudo-conservatives what they want to hear! He isn't aiding or abetting the enemy, he is just putting things into historical perspective. What has he got to lose! You wouldn't support him even if he supported the illusion that Euro/American Christianity is as pristine as the driven snow! You would still hate him because he is the ink spot on your White egotistical sheet!

How is it truthful to say that we are on a moral high horse to condemn the actions of a violent death cult because of what medieval Christians did? That's propaganda not perspective.

What part of the 20th Century belongs to medieval times? I'm not going to allow you to skip over the holocaust and attempted Amerindian genocides. Did those events pass as Christian exploits or are we supposed to ignore them?

I'm not going to allow you to proclaim the Holocaust was a Christian endeavour and get away with it. Back it up, Einstein.

I asked the first questions that you have yet to answer...Answer them first before asking me to answer yours, Plato!

 

[MarathonMike]

Obama is a complete embarrassment as a President. Was he just trying to piss off Christians? For what purpose? I'm not a Christian and it pissed me off.

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Obama seems not to be a Muslim at all. There are so many guesses about his confession. I really wonder which God does he believe in?

I've thought about that a lot trying to figure him out. He doesn't strike me as very religious. JMO but I believe the only real convictions he has are to his legacy and his family. I don't know how important his religion or lack thereof matters really. He might even be a closet atheist and just doesn't admit it because of political fallout.

 

[Andylusion]

The more he does this the more his followers love him for it.
Disgraceful.

Yeah, no Christians or Christian leaders have ever demanded that anything or anybody be killed for the glory of the cross...

Like maybe 1000 years ago....
How about we deal with what's happening in real time.

I wish my past sins could be wiped out that easily.....

You are being ridiculous.

First, we didn't do anything that you are talking about. When you say "my sins".... That implies you specifically did it. If you are going to say that all Christians everywhere, should be held accountable for what Catholicism, a belief system I do not subscribe to anyway, did 1,000 years ago..... how about the millions on millions killed in the name of Atheistic Socialism and Communism?

Can we hold you accountable for all those? Or any other belief system? Should we hold all left wingers responsible for the bombings by the Weather Underground? Same basic belief system right?

You people are a joke. If we held you to the standards that you apply to everyone else, you'd be screaming.

 

[JQPublic1]

Listen to this genius. He's on the internet and suggesting people go to the library to back up his wild claims. LOL

Given the way the president has been treated by "conservatives" during his tenure as president gives him license to fight back and say anything he pleases as long as it is true. Everything h said is documented and accessible to the entire world for perusal. Go to any pubic library anywhere in the world and you will find Christian atrocities in the you have sobered a bit, books therein. Obama didn't reveal any secrets. He just cited the evidence already revealed!

They can't "listen" to a post, genius. But they can read them. Calm down, you are losing it.
I find it interesting that you wrote your pathetic rebuttal to my Nazi Christian premise at 12:52 PM. It is now 20:56 and you got not one agree, thank you or even an informative plug from your friends and allies. That's because they know the truth about the Nazis and their peculiar Christianity. Oh, you may get some of those accolades after your boyz read this; but, in your heart ,you will know its just because I mentioned it.

 

[Moonglow]

The more he does this the more his followers love him for it.
Disgraceful.

Yeah, no Christians or Christian leaders have ever demanded that anything or anybody be killed for the glory of the cross...

Like maybe 1000 years ago....
How about we deal with what's happening in real time.

I wish my past sins could be wiped out that easily.....

You are being ridiculous.

First, we didn't do anything that you are talking about. When you say "my sins".... That implies you specifically did it. If you are going to say that all Christians everywhere, should be held accountable for what Catholicism, a belief system I do not subscribe to anyway, did 1,000 years ago..... how about the millions on millions killed in the name of Atheistic Socialism and Communism?

Can we hold you accountable for all those? Or any other belief system? Should we hold all left wingers responsible for the bombings by the Weather Underground? Same basic belief system right?

You people are a joke. If we held you to the standards that you apply to everyone else, you'd be screaming.

It was a joke,,butt munch...

 

[JQPublic1]

Given the way the president has been treated by "conservatives" during his tenure as president gives him license to fight back and say anything he pleases as long as it is true. Everything h said is documented and accessible to the entire world for perusal. Go to any pubic library anywhere in the world and you will find Christian atrocities in the books therein. Obama didn't reveal any secrets. He just cited the evidence already revealed!

Really? That is your argument?
His little lecture was not an informative speech. It's intent was not to inform. Everyone knows the Crusades happened.
His speech was a persuasive speech. The intent is to influence thought, to persuade someone to see a point that you want to make.
"*Lest we get on our high horse"...in other words..."let's not think we are better than them".
This is 2015. It is not 1095. What people did 900 years ago doesn't have a f*cking thing to do with what these monsters are doing now!! Not a single f*cking thing!
They are hanging, stoning, beheading and burning burning people alive - and this President wants us to find common ground with that???
WTF???
It was an asinine, stupid and weak thing to say.
Like I said - an ISIS recruiter couldn't have said it better,

As long as you DAWGS keep referencing stuff that happened 900 years ago will keep reminding you of the 17th-19th Century Christians who murdered most of America's Aborigines for their land, enslaved Blacks and were the perfect models for apartheid while their fellow Christians in Germany massacred the Jews in the 20th Century! Care to dispute that?

 

[Andylusion]

4th or 5th thread on this.

Everything he said is true.

Yep, but what you intellectually challenged libs lack is an IQ, ummm, probably somewhere around 70 or lower is your level, because at an IQ level of 80 or higher YOU FUCKING REALIZE THAT THE MOTHER FUCKING CRUSADES HAPPENED CENTURIES AGO, WHILE THE FUCKERS WHO WORSHIP IN ISLAM BURNED A HUMAN BEING ALIVE ARE DOING SO TODAY IN THE YEAR 2015 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Christians are burning witches in Africa today too. Doesn't make the religion a cause-and-effect.

See the thread linked right above. We've done all this, to death.

And as far as "recent" stuff -- I won't link the image, it's too graphic -- but this happened in 20th century Nebraska. I really don't think there was any "Islam" involved.

Again, you don't have any valid point to be made. What does this have to do with anything?

When other people are committing mass torture and genocide, and mass rape and mass slaughter, and they are doing it openly and prominently, in the name of a specific religion.....

You don't stand up in front of the country and say to all your people "Yeah well... you did it too!"

In any other situation, you would grasp this instinctively. If there was a bunch of serial rapists running around, you would never stand up in front of a bunch of women, and say "Yeah but you've done bad things too!".

But for some stupid reason, because Obama is the moron who made this claim, your logic and rational thinking is switched off, and you are now responding in partisan idiot mode.

Here's the difference.... If Christians were running around Iraq and wherever, killing people.... I'd be first in line to volunteer to go fight them.

Fact: We're not doing that. I don't see Christians going around, cutting off people's heads for not converting, or dousing people in oil, and burning them alive.

For Obama to stand up and say, that I can't be opposed to ISIS slaughtering people today, because some other people a thousand years ago, that believe in some religion that is barely comparable to my own today, may have killed people in the 'name' of Christianity.... is absolutely idiotic. If you support that idiotic thinking....... that reflects only on you.

 

[Andylusion]

The more he does this the more his followers love him for it.
Disgraceful.

Yeah, no Christians or Christian leaders have ever demanded that anything or anybody be killed for the glory of the cross...

Like maybe 1000 years ago....
How about we deal with what's happening in real time.

I wish my past sins could be wiped out that easily.....

You are being ridiculous.

First, we didn't do anything that you are talking about. When you say "my sins".... That implies you specifically did it. If you are going to say that all Christians everywhere, should be held accountable for what Catholicism, a belief system I do not subscribe to anyway, did 1,000 years ago..... how about the millions on millions killed in the name of Atheistic Socialism and Communism?

Can we hold you accountable for all those? Or any other belief system? Should we hold all left wingers responsible for the bombings by the Weather Underground? Same basic belief system right?

You people are a joke. If we held you to the standards that you apply to everyone else, you'd be screaming.

It was a joke,,butt munch...

Ah yes..... 'that was a joke'. For future reference, joke are supposed to be funny. To help people reading your 'jokes' to realize that they are 'jokes', do try and make them funny.

 

[ScienceRocks]

And somehow supporting islams wrongs with our past is somehow justifying their violence? What happened to two wrongs don't make a right?

 

[Moonglow]

Yeah, no Christians or Christian leaders have ever demanded that anything or anybody be killed for the glory of the cross...

Like maybe 1000 years ago....
How about we deal with what's happening in real time.

I wish my past sins could be wiped out that easily.....

You are being ridiculous.

First, we didn't do anything that you are talking about. When you say "my sins".... That implies you specifically did it. If you are going to say that all Christians everywhere, should be held accountable for what Catholicism, a belief system I do not subscribe to anyway, did 1,000 years ago..... how about the millions on millions killed in the name of Atheistic Socialism and Communism?

Can we hold you accountable for all those? Or any other belief system? Should we hold all left wingers responsible for the bombings by the Weather Underground? Same basic belief system right?

You people are a joke. If we held you to the standards that you apply to everyone else, you'd be screaming.

It was a joke,,butt munch...

Ah yes..... 'that was a joke'. For future reference, joke are supposed to be funny. To help people reading your 'jokes' to realize that they are 'jokes', do try and make them funny.

 

[Moonglow]

And somehow supporting islams wrongs with our past is somehow justifying their violence? What happened to two wrongs don't make a right?

We are dealing with humans here, not writing the Bible....

 

[ogibillm]

...So all the president has to say is stop and they will stop?

Nope.

But the idiot doesn't have to pour gasoline on the fire, and serve-up faux equivalencies and rationalizations that further enable them, either, does he?

You are enabling the enemy with your denial of the obvious, not the President.

Oh, hell, I'm not denying Western (and our own) culpability regarding the motivations of various Radical and Militant Islamic groups that are our declared enemies.

It's just that our own fucking President should not be letting them off the hook in ANY way, while we scramble to adjust our own approach.

Good news then - he didn't let anyone off the hook
anyone pretending otherwise is a lying jackass

 

[JQPublic1]

I am truly ashamed of President Barack Obama's position in this matter.

Although I voted for him twice, both times, it was with great reluctance, as the best of a poor range of choices.

I now have a bad case of buyer's (voter's) remorse, and repent of my former votes, although I accept that I have now gotten what I voted for.

Personally, he has been losing me, slowly but surely, for at least a couple of years, and his new reliance upon Rule by Imperial Decree pretty much capped that for me.

But, this last bit... serving-up faux equivalencies between Islam and Christianity... giving aid and comfort to the enemy (Radical Militant Islam) is the Last Straw.

I now want the guy gone from public life and removed from power, in our peaceful and time-honored tradition, and want January 20, 2017, to hurry up and come, as quickly as possible, while minimizing the damage that this Failed Messiah can do, in his remaining 23 months at the helm.

Jesus-H-Tap-Dancing-Christ-on-a-Crutch, but did I phukk-up by voting for him (twice!), or what?

I'm sorry, America... I'm soooooo sorry for my little part in this.

Obama told the truth and his bold indictment was not Faux News! I' am proud of a president who stands up and tells the truth for a change instead of telling "pseudo-conservatives what they want to hear! He isn't aiding or abetting the enemy, he is just putting things into historical perspective. What has he got to lose! You wouldn't support him even if he supported the illusion that Euro/American Christianity is as pristine as the driven snow! You would still hate him because he is the ink spot on your White egotistical sheet!

What?

Did I wrong you in some previous life?

Did somebody pee in your Cheerios this morning?

Where in the hell does this Hate Whitey disease that you're suffering from, originate?

In any event, I didn't do diddly-squat to insult you, or to call you a liar, or to denigrate you, or to question your loyalty or motives.

Consequently, and in light of the fact that you fired first, and drew first blood...

You may now consider yourself cleared to blow it out your ass, at your discretion, and earliest convenience.

Get off my back, pissant.

You really take offense at the most trivial things, tsk! tsk! Truth is a MOTHA ain't it?

Translation: "I was unnecessarily rude to someone who does not think the same way I do, but I am not man enough to admit error or overzealousness and apologize, so, I'll simply attempt to trivialize the original hostility or insult, in a juvenile attempt to make the Objecting Party appear overly-sensitive." That doesn't even qualify as a 'nice try'.

That is not a translation, that is PROJECTION. Any objective comparison of the narratives of our exchange
above puts the defining character of your "translation" squarely in your ad hominem laced responses!

 

[JQPublic1]

Christians need to get off their high horse whether they used to kill people or not, if for no other reason than to comport with Christian dogma.

LOL. No Christian today has anything to do with what happened in medieval times, jackass.

But Christians living today did have something to do with Killing millions of Jews in Nazi Germany. I suppose you can count that dubious enterprise as a crusade. Still laugihng, chuckles?

Here is a permalink to munch on, ya friggin' weasel!. See the Nazi Catholic priests raise their arms in the standard Nazi salute...read the posts in the forum and become an informed poster instead of a drip!
The Christian Nazis Page 2 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[SAYIT]

You sillies don't set any rules. Everytime you break them, we will knock you over.

Who is "we," JS? Yanno, it's getting harder and harder to defend your brand of "conservative" thought. You seem far to the left of Paint My House these days.

 

[Pogo]

4th or 5th thread on this.

Everything he said is true.

Yep, but what you intellectually challenged libs lack is an IQ, ummm, probably somewhere around 70 or lower is your level, because at an IQ level of 80 or higher YOU FUCKING REALIZE THAT THE MOTHER FUCKING CRUSADES HAPPENED CENTURIES AGO, WHILE THE FUCKERS WHO WORSHIP IN ISLAM BURNED A HUMAN BEING ALIVE ARE DOING SO TODAY IN THE YEAR 2015 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Christians are burning witches in Africa today too. Doesn't make the religion a cause-and-effect.

See the thread linked right above. We've done all this, to death.

And as far as "recent" stuff -- I won't link the image, it's too graphic -- but this happened in 20th century Nebraska. I really don't think there was any "Islam" involved.

Again, you don't have any valid point to be made. What does this have to do with anything?

When other people are committing mass torture and genocide, and mass rape and mass slaughter, and they are doing it openly and prominently, in the name of a specific religion.....

You don't stand up in front of the country and say to all your people "Yeah well... you did it too!"

In any other situation, you would grasp this instinctively. If there was a bunch of serial rapists running around, you would never stand up in front of a bunch of women, and say "Yeah but you've done bad things too!".

But for some stupid reason, because Obama is the moron who made this claim, your logic and rational thinking is switched off, and you are now responding in partisan idiot mode.

Here's the difference.... If Christians were running around Iraq and wherever, killing people.... I'd be first in line to volunteer to go fight them.

Fact: We're not doing that. I don't see Christians going around, cutting off people's heads for not converting, or dousing people in oil, and burning them alive.

For Obama to stand up and say, that I can't be opposed to ISIS slaughtering people today, because some other people a thousand years ago, that believe in some religion that is barely comparable to my own today, may have killed people in the 'name' of Christianity.... is absolutely idiotic. If you support that idiotic thinking....... that reflects only on you.

Nor is that what the speech said. The OP made that shit up. That's why he wouldn't link it -- because he's a liar.

 

[Pogo]

Christians need to get off their high horse whether they used to kill people or not, if for no other reason than to comport with Christian dogma.

LOL. No Christian today has anything to do with what happened in medieval times, jackass.

This is the same flaming cop-out repeated over and over and over.
The point is that wags like this - as well as any number of posts here - keep desperately trying to convince anyone who will listen that the extremism in current news represents the institution (of Islam) whereas when our extremists do it they don't. That's double standard hypocritical bullshit. .

Either a tiny sample represents the whole, or it does not -- can't have it both ways. And of course the way it works is that it does not. This is a flaming cop-out to put the finger on an entire religion because it's easier to wrap weak intellects around the idea of putting people into a scary monster box than it is to deal with the real complexities of the real world.

Tough shit; the world just ain't that simple.

 

[featherlite]

Obama is a complete embarrassment as a President. Was he just trying to piss off Christians? For what purpose? I'm not a Christian and it pissed me off.

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Obama seems not to be a Muslim at all. There are so many guesses about his confession. I really wonder which God does he believe in?

After hearing his speech...my guess is Darth Vader. lol
" faith should always start with doubt",
"stumblin and a fumblin toward God. kind of overly folksy wording and especially something no president should say.
I've always been just neutral about Obama.
...not so much now.