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Another Sheeple buying the lie that the President was talking for private insurance companies when he said people could keep the policies they liked.
People who heard the topic of the speech know he was talking about the Obamacare grandfathering clause.
But Republican propaganda is what it is and Fox addicts are addicted.
You're a lying piece of trash.
The truth often hurts the delusional.
You're a lying piece of trash.
The truth often hurts the delusional.
Does ANYONE have ANYTHING constructive to say??? Geezz.....This entire forum has become so full of crap from posters hell bent on hurling insults instead of reading differing POV. C'mon mods, I haven't been here long but how can you overlook the language? It reduces good debate into worthless rhetoric. I dunno, maybe I am wrong here & the mods are ok with this stuff. Good luck with that,,,
The truth often hurts the delusional.
Does ANYONE have ANYTHING constructive to say??? Geezz.....This entire forum has become so full of crap from posters hell bent on hurling insults instead of reading differing POV. C'mon mods, I haven't been here long but how can you overlook the language? It reduces good debate into worthless rhetoric. I dunno, maybe I am wrong here & the mods are ok with this stuff. Good luck with that,,,
Constructive means in accordance with the truth. Right?
Does ANYONE have ANYTHING constructive to say??? Geezz.....This entire forum has become so full of crap from posters hell bent on hurling insults instead of reading differing POV. C'mon mods, I haven't been here long but how can you overlook the language? It reduces good debate into worthless rhetoric. I dunno, maybe I am wrong here & the mods are ok with this stuff. Good luck with that,,,
Constructive means in accordance with the truth. Right?
Truth according to whom?
You're a lying piece of trash.
The truth often hurts the delusional.
Does ANYONE have ANYTHING constructive to say??? Geezz.....This entire forum has become so full of crap from posters hell bent on hurling insults instead of reading differing POV. C'mon mods, I haven't been here long but how can you overlook the language? It reduces good debate into worthless rhetoric. I dunno, maybe I am wrong here & the mods are ok with this stuff. Good luck with that,,,
The same means the same. What the President said was true. Your the one who's being stupid.
So you really are that stupid as to believe that a price increase somehow 'changes the plan'. Wow, dumb leftists are dumb.
Please link to where obama specified 'if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period. Unless anything little thing on it changes, and that means even if the price goes up, then it will be cancelled and you will be sol'. Prior to when his lying spinny ass said it today. He can't back peddle fast enough on this. Oh wait ... were we suppose to go read the bill to find out what was in it?
I was right ... idiot lap-dogs like you will defend this crap and this shitty administration because --- obama!
Can't wait till the employer mandate kicks in next year right before elections and millions more lose the plans the president said we could keep.
Clearly, you are not very bright. To think that he said that you can have whatever you want from your insurance company.
The purpose of Obamacare was to make everyone responsible for the cost of their health care. You thought that you could get away with only being responsible if you didn't need any health care. But that door got closed. Bummer.
Oh, I know. I know you were.Actually, I was quite serious.
That's what makes it especially funny.
I admire how you accept your handicap.
On what do you base your opinion that you're an intelligent person? Because I see no evidence.
See, now you're just flat-out lying. Why do you do that?Yep, you've abandoned your asinine claim. Good, because it was REALLY stupid.I've heard many if them say that we should nuke this place or that. They don't need to own one to do that if they have a majority in government. Thank God that won't happen.
Actually I abandoned your asinine claim.
So you really are that stupid as to believe that a price increase somehow 'changes the plan'. Wow, dumb leftists are dumb.
Please link to where obama specified 'if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period. Unless anything little thing on it changes, and that means even if the price goes up, then it will be cancelled and you will be sol'. Prior to when his lying spinny ass said it today. He can't back peddle fast enough on this. Oh wait ... were we suppose to go read the bill to find out what was in it?
I was right ... idiot lap-dogs like you will defend this crap and this shitty administration because --- obama!
Can't wait till the employer mandate kicks in next year right before elections and millions more lose the plans the president said we could keep.
Clearly, you are not very bright. To think that he said that you can have whatever you want from your insurance company.
The purpose of Obamacare was to make everyone responsible for the cost of their health care. You thought that you could get away with only being responsible if you didn't need any health care. But that door got closed. Bummer.
No one thinks he said that because that isn't what he said.
What he did say was "you can keep your health plan. Period." I see no exceptions or qualifications there. Period.
It happens I am one of a few people who actually could keep his plan because I had it prior to 2010. So all the people who got their plan after that and are finding that plan cancelled due to Ocare regs understand that Obama's promise was a lie. And he knew it was a lie when he made the statement. That is already established.
There is simply no way you can spin that to be what it obviously is.
Meanwhile, the Administration changed the grandfathering rules to benefit his corporate cronies:I'm sure sheeple will buy into this. Actually, I find it extremely insulting that the WH expects Americans to believe the rhetoric they are spewing;
White House on honesty in the Age of Obama: "What difference does it make?" | Washington Times Communities
Another Sheeple buying the lie that the President was talking for private insurance companies when he said people could keep the policies they liked.
People who heard the topic of the speech know he was talking about the Obamacare grandfathering clause.
But Republican propaganda is what it is and Fox addicts are addicted.
And what did the grandfathering clause grandfather in? Private health insurance plans.
When he said 'you can keep your plan if you like your plan' he meant ... if you like your insurance plan, you could keep it. Period. <--- means 'what I just said it what I meant'.
obama. Lied. His. Ass. Off.
My brother lost his individual catastrophic plan. Gone at the end of December. Know what changed on his plan? Nothing but a price increase. His actual plan --- what was covered --- didn't change at all.
obama. Lied. His. Ass. Off.
Keep spinning, we're all getting a kick of how utterly and hopelessly moronic you all are flailing about. You leftists look like a bunch of damn herrings flopping around on a dock trying to spin this into anything other than what it really is.
obama. Lying. His. Ass. Off.
Policies that did not change did not have to change. Read instead of just reciting Republican propaganda.
"If you like your insurance policy you can keep it. Period, end of story"
Please find anywhere in the above sentence anything implying "unless the policy changes"
Let me assist
IT AINT THERE
Apparently to this latest obama fluffer, it is but we're just to dumb to see it.
"If you like your insurance policy you can keep it. Period, end of story"
Please find anywhere in the above sentence anything implying "unless the policy changes"
Let me assist
IT AINT THERE
Apparently to this latest obama fluffer, it is but we're just to dumb to see it.
the people do not like being tricked by the fine print in a contract
in fact if obama was a licensed insurance agent
he would be out on bond right now awaiting trial
Apparently to this latest obama fluffer, it is but we're just to dumb to see it.
the people do not like being tricked by the fine print in a contract
in fact if obama was a licensed insurance agent
he would be out on bond right now awaiting trial
Obamacare does not limit your choice to continue a grandfathered policy. Those writing policies do.
Policies that did not change did not have to change. Read instead of just reciting Republican propaganda.
"If you like your insurance policy you can keep it. Period, end of story"
Please find anywhere in the above sentence anything implying "unless the policy changes"
Let me assist
IT AINT THERE
Obviously he assumed you knew the context of his statement. Just as obviously, he overestimated your capabilities.
"If you like your insurance policy you can keep it. Period, end of story"
Please find anywhere in the above sentence anything implying "unless the policy changes"
Let me assist
IT AINT THERE
Obviously he assumed you knew the context of his statement. Just as obviously, he overestimated your capabilities.
Obviously we should have read his friggen mind.
The same means the same. What the President said was true. Your the one who's being stupid.
So you really are that stupid as to believe that a price increase somehow 'changes the plan'. Wow, dumb leftists are dumb.
Please link to where obama specified 'if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period. Unless anything little thing on it changes, and that means even if the price goes up, then it will be cancelled and you will be sol'. Prior to when his lying spinny ass said it today. He can't back peddle fast enough on this. Oh wait ... were we suppose to go read the bill to find out what was in it?
I was right ... idiot lap-dogs like you will defend this crap and this shitty administration because --- obama!
Can't wait till the employer mandate kicks in next year right before elections and millions more lose the plans the president said we could keep.
Clearly, you are not very bright. To think that he said that you can have whatever you want from your insurance company.
The purpose of Obamacare was to make everyone responsible for the cost of their health care. You thought that you could get away with only being responsible if you didn't need any health care. But that door got closed. Bummer.
So you really are that stupid as to believe that a price increase somehow 'changes the plan'. Wow, dumb leftists are dumb.
Please link to where obama specified 'if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period. Unless anything little thing on it changes, and that means even if the price goes up, then it will be cancelled and you will be sol'. Prior to when his lying spinny ass said it today. He can't back peddle fast enough on this. Oh wait ... were we suppose to go read the bill to find out what was in it?
I was right ... idiot lap-dogs like you will defend this crap and this shitty administration because --- obama!
Can't wait till the employer mandate kicks in next year right before elections and millions more lose the plans the president said we could keep.
Clearly, you are not very bright. To think that he said that you can have whatever you want from your insurance company.
The purpose of Obamacare was to make everyone responsible for the cost of their health care. You thought that you could get away with only being responsible if you didn't need any health care. But that door got closed. Bummer.
You are dumber than a bag of shit.
He didn't say "you can have whatever you want from your insurance company" HE SAID: If you like your health care plan, you can keep it. Period.' Stop trying to dodge.
Stupid, moron is stupid, moron. Try reading what I actually wrote, dumbass. My brother had an individual health insurance plan that he paid for, with he very own money, no subsidies, no one else footing the bill for him, he took responsibility, fucking obama and dems shoved this pile of crap down our throats, obama stood there and repeatedly REPEATEDLY said if you like your plan you can keep it. Period. Over and over and over he said it. HE FUCKING LIED. Now he, you and countless other brain-dead, ass-kissing, obama zombies are bending over backward trying to wiggle out of it. Newflash, it ain't gonna never happen.
obama and dems lied their asses off on this and have been caught. You are pathetic in your sorry assed attempts to justify or excuse this in any way.
You are one ignorant shitbag.Clearly, you are not very bright. To think that he said that you can have whatever you want from your insurance company.
The purpose of Obamacare was to make everyone responsible for the cost of their health care. You thought that you could get away with only being responsible if you didn't need any health care. But that door got closed. Bummer.
You are dumber than a bag of shit.
He didn't say "you can have whatever you want from your insurance company" HE SAID: If you like your health care plan, you can keep it. Period.' Stop trying to dodge.
Stupid, moron is stupid, moron. Try reading what I actually wrote, dumbass. My brother had an individual health insurance plan that he paid for, with he very own money, no subsidies, no one else footing the bill for him, he took responsibility, fucking obama and dems shoved this pile of crap down our throats, obama stood there and repeatedly REPEATEDLY said if you like your plan you can keep it. Period. Over and over and over he said it. HE FUCKING LIED. Now he, you and countless other brain-dead, ass-kissing, obama zombies are bending over backward trying to wiggle out of it. Newflash, it ain't gonna never happen.
obama and dems lied their asses off on this and have been caught. You are pathetic in your sorry assed attempts to justify or excuse this in any way.
Obamacare allowed grandfathering of existing policies. Private insurance companies chose not to.
The President can't and wouldn't talk about their decisions. He was talking about the government's decision to grandfather.
It speaks volumes about Republican propaganda that those simple obvious facts have been pried from so many weak minds.
You are one ignorant shitbag.You are dumber than a bag of shit.
He didn't say "you can have whatever you want from your insurance company" HE SAID: If you like your health care plan, you can keep it. Period.' Stop trying to dodge.
Stupid, moron is stupid, moron. Try reading what I actually wrote, dumbass. My brother had an individual health insurance plan that he paid for, with he very own money, no subsidies, no one else footing the bill for him, he took responsibility, fucking obama and dems shoved this pile of crap down our throats, obama stood there and repeatedly REPEATEDLY said if you like your plan you can keep it. Period. Over and over and over he said it. HE FUCKING LIED. Now he, you and countless other brain-dead, ass-kissing, obama zombies are bending over backward trying to wiggle out of it. Newflash, it ain't gonna never happen.
obama and dems lied their asses off on this and have been caught. You are pathetic in your sorry assed attempts to justify or excuse this in any way.
Obamacare allowed grandfathering of existing policies. Private insurance companies chose not to.
The President can't and wouldn't talk about their decisions. He was talking about the government's decision to grandfather.
It speaks volumes about Republican propaganda that those simple obvious facts have been pried from so many weak minds.
Private insurance companies had no choice in the matter. If the policy was issued after whatever 2010, and it didnt conform to Ocare guidelines, it had to be cancelled. Companies had no choice in the matter. Consumers had no choice in the matter. All of it was driven by gov't regulation.
