Obama Warns GOP About Blocking Gun Bill

[ba1614]

And when said gangbanger is caught with the weapon, he faces additional charges because of the fact he has it without the requisate paperwork. Same for the redneck shooting up the highway signs.

OK, sure. but that does not get the guns out of the hands of criminals.

what you lefties seem to want is for only the government and criminals to have guns--------would that make you sleep better? Sounds like Germany in the 1930s

In a nation where the number of gun deaths will soon exceed the numbers of auto deaths, sounds to me like there is no dearth of guns. Not only that, not a single law thus far proposed would affect any of the guns that I own at present.

Well then, as long as the laws don't affect you then fuck everyone else.

 

[Rocko]

your doctor should be reporting you whether you are taking the drug or not

hipaa Summary of the HIPAA Privacy Rule

Laws need to be changed

The large number of suicides and mass killings shows us that. Crazy people and guns are not a good mix

If you are taking certain medications they will pull your drivers license....why can't we stop you from buying a gun?

What kind of effect do you think that would have as far as the doctor patient dynamic?

 

[Crackerjaxon]

Why not vote on it and see where everyone stands?

much better to have obama "warn" the gop and look like a badass

btw...i'm sure you have no problem with holding up voting on something you're against....

What are Republicans afraid of?

Afraid to show they support the NRA? Why won't they just vote on it if they feel so strongly? Why hide behind a filibuster?

Because a filibister assures that the measure will take 60 votes to pass. The republicans know Obama doesn't have 60 votes.

 

[Ava]

USMB has officially been overrun.

Hey! Let us not take anything away from former U.S. Democratic Senator and proud racist and Klansman, from West Virginia, Robert Byrd.

 

[rightwinger]

much better to have obama "warn" the gop and look like a badass

btw...i'm sure you have no problem with holding up voting on something you're against....

What are Republicans afraid of?

Afraid to show they support the NRA? Why won't they just vote on it if they feel so strongly? Why hide behind a filibuster?

Because a filibister assures that the measure will take 60 votes to pass. The republicans know Obama doesn't have 60 votes.

No, a filibuster means it does not even come up for discussion

I don't care if it passes or not. Let the Senators and Congressmen VOTE to keep AR-15s with high capacity magazines out there

Then, after the next mass killing, we can remind them of their vote

 

[Crackerjaxon]

Lets take it further....

Forget about the homicidal maniacs buying guns. Lets look at suicide

Guns are the weapon of choice for those comitting suicide. People with severe depression who are on medication should not be out buying guns

And then will have less people taking drugs for depression who need them You don't seem to think of cause and effect. All you seem to be concerned with is liberal good intentions.

We already pull their drivers license.....why not their guns?

Let's lock them up and put them in straight jackets. That way we know they won't harm anyone. Think of the government caretaker jobs that would be created.

Let's do it with anyone who has ever sought counseling for any problem. They're just a powder keg waiting to explode.

 

[boedicca]

What are Republicans afraid of?

Afraid to show they support the NRA? Why won't they just vote on it if they feel so strongly? Why hide behind a filibuster?

Because a filibister assures that the measure will take 60 votes to pass. The republicans know Obama doesn't have 60 votes.

No, a filibuster means it does not even come up for discussion

I don't care if it passes or not. Let the Senators and Congressmen VOTE to keep AR-15s with high capacity magazines out there

Then, after the next mass killing, we can remind them of their vote

Uh. Maybe Reid should let the Senate read the bill first?

 

[Crackerjaxon]

What are Republicans afraid of?

Afraid to show they support the NRA? Why won't they just vote on it if they feel so strongly? Why hide behind a filibuster?

Because a filibister assures that the measure will take 60 votes to pass. The republicans know Obama doesn't have 60 votes.

No, a filibuster means it does not even come up for discussion

I don't care if it passes or not. Let the Senators and Congressmen VOTE to keep AR-15s with high capacity magazines out there

Then, after the next mass killing, we can remind them of their vote

Well yeah, you do have whining rights. We have to give you something.

Since it's plainly unconstitutional, it shouldn't come up for a vote.

From Wikipedia:


A filibuster in the United States Senate usually refers to any dilatory or obstructive tactics used to prevent a measure from being brought to a vote. The most common form of filibuster occurs when a senator attempts to delay or entirely prevent a vote on a bill by extending the debate on the measure, but other dilatory tactics exist. The rules permit a senator, or a series of senators, to speak for as long as they wish and on any topic they choose, unless "three-fifths of the Senators duly chosen and sworn"[1] (usually 60 out of 100 senators) brings debate to a close by invoking cloture under Senate Rule XXII.

According to the Supreme Court ruling in United States v. Ballin (1892), changes to Senate rules could be achieved by a simple majority. Nevertheless, under current Senate rules, a rule change itself could be filibustered, with two-thirds of those senators present and voting (as opposed to the normal three-fifths of those sworn) needing to vote to end debate.[1] Despite this written requirement, the possibility exists that the Senate's presiding officer could on motion declare a Senate rule unconstitutional, which decision can be upheld by a simple majority vote of the Senate.

 

[martybegan]

your doctor should be reporting you whether you are taking the drug or not

hipaa Summary of the HIPAA Privacy Rule

Laws need to be changed

The large number of suicides and mass killings shows us that. Crazy people and guns are not a good mix

If you are taking certain medications they will pull your drivers license....why can't we stop you from buying a gun?

Driving is a privilidge, not a right.

You just don't seem to grasp this concept.

 

[rightwinger]

Because a filibister assures that the measure will take 60 votes to pass. The republicans know Obama doesn't have 60 votes.

No, a filibuster means it does not even come up for discussion

I don't care if it passes or not. Let the Senators and Congressmen VOTE to keep AR-15s with high capacity magazines out there

Then, after the next mass killing, we can remind them of their vote

Well yeah, you do have whining rights. We have to give you something.

Since it's plainly unconstitutional, it shouldn't come up for a vote.

From Wikipedia:


A filibuster in the United States Senate usually refers to any dilatory or obstructive tactics used to prevent a measure from being brought to a vote. The most common form of filibuster occurs when a senator attempts to delay or entirely prevent a vote on a bill by extending the debate on the measure, but other dilatory tactics exist. The rules permit a senator, or a series of senators, to speak for as long as they wish and on any topic they choose, unless "three-fifths of the Senators duly chosen and sworn"[1] (usually 60 out of 100 senators) brings debate to a close by invoking cloture under Senate Rule XXII.

According to the Supreme Court ruling in United States v. Ballin (1892), changes to Senate rules could be achieved by a simple majority. Nevertheless, under current Senate rules, a rule change itself could be filibustered, with two-thirds of those senators present and voting (as opposed to the normal three-fifths of those sworn) needing to vote to end debate.[1] Despite this written requirement, the possibility exists that the Senate's presiding officer could on motion declare a Senate rule unconstitutional, which decision can be upheld by a simple majority vote of the Senate.

How can it be plainly unconstitutional when we have already had an assault weapon ban?

And Reid is a fucking pussy for not voting to change the filibuster rules

 

[boedicca]

No, a filibuster means it does not even come up for discussion

I don't care if it passes or not. Let the Senators and Congressmen VOTE to keep AR-15s with high capacity magazines out there

Then, after the next mass killing, we can remind them of their vote

Well yeah, you do have whining rights. We have to give you something.

Since it's plainly unconstitutional, it shouldn't come up for a vote.

From Wikipedia:


A filibuster in the United States Senate usually refers to any dilatory or obstructive tactics used to prevent a measure from being brought to a vote. The most common form of filibuster occurs when a senator attempts to delay or entirely prevent a vote on a bill by extending the debate on the measure, but other dilatory tactics exist. The rules permit a senator, or a series of senators, to speak for as long as they wish and on any topic they choose, unless "three-fifths of the Senators duly chosen and sworn"[1] (usually 60 out of 100 senators) brings debate to a close by invoking cloture under Senate Rule XXII.

According to the Supreme Court ruling in United States v. Ballin (1892), changes to Senate rules could be achieved by a simple majority. Nevertheless, under current Senate rules, a rule change itself could be filibustered, with two-thirds of those senators present and voting (as opposed to the normal three-fifths of those sworn) needing to vote to end debate.[1] Despite this written requirement, the possibility exists that the Senate's presiding officer could on motion declare a Senate rule unconstitutional, which decision can be upheld by a simple majority vote of the Senate.

How can it be clearly unconstitutional when we have already had an assault weapon ban?

What's Harry Reid trying to hide by not letting anyone read the bill?

 

[rightwinger]

hipaa Summary of the HIPAA Privacy Rule

Laws need to be changed

The large number of suicides and mass killings shows us that. Crazy people and guns are not a good mix

If you are taking certain medications they will pull your drivers license....why can't we stop you from buying a gun?

Driving is a privilidge, not a right.

You just don't seem to grasp this concept.

Criminals and crazy people do not have a right to own guns

 

[boedicca]

Laws need to be changed

The large number of suicides and mass killings shows us that. Crazy people and guns are not a good mix

If you are taking certain medications they will pull your drivers license....why can't we stop you from buying a gun?

Driving is a privilidge, not a right.

You just don't seem to grasp this concept.

Criminals and crazy people do not have a right to own guns

We already have laws against both of those. Keeping law-abiding sane people from having guns doesn't do anything to prevent criminals and crazy people from getting them.

 

[FA_Q2]

Lets take it further....

Forget about the homicidal maniacs buying guns. Lets look at suicide

Guns are the weapon of choice for those comitting suicide. People with severe depression who are on medication should not be out buying guns

And then will have less people taking drugs for depression who need them You don't seem to think of cause and effect. All you seem to be concerned with is liberal good intentions.

We already pull their drivers license.....why not their guns?

How many damn times does this have to be stated to you?

OWNING A WEAPON IS A CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED RIGHT.

Therefore, you need to have the judiciary take that right away. It MUST be done in a court by judicial means or are we going to ignore the second AND fifth amendments. Further, it is the left always trumpeting the right to privacy, have you forgotten that right as well?

It seems to me, you are only willing to uphold and defend rights when it suits you and when it does not, they are thrown aside.

I have no problem in not allowing the crazy to purchase a weapon, it is the MEANS that need to be hammered out because there are SEVERAL rights in jeopardy here if we just do this out of hand.

PS. The owner of a store CAN deny your purchase and therefore that line of yours is meaningless.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

hipaa Summary of the HIPAA Privacy Rule

Laws need to be changed

The large number of suicides and mass killings shows us that. Crazy people and guns are not a good mix

If you are taking certain medications they will pull your drivers license....why can't we stop you from buying a gun?

Driving is a privilidge, not a right.

You just don't seem to grasp this concept.

At least that's the bullshit state governments are selling.


From wikipedia:


Freedom of movement under United States law is governed primarily by the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the United States Constitution which states, "The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States." As far back as the circuit court ruling in Corfield v. Coryell, 6 Fed. Cas. 546 (1823), the Supreme Court recognized freedom of movement as a fundamental Constitutional right. In Paul v. Virginia, 75 U.S. 168 (1869), the Court defined freedom of movement as "right of free ingress into other States, and egress from them."[1] However, the Supreme Court did not invest the federal government with the authority to protect freedom of movement. Under the "privileges and immunities" clause, this authority was given to the states, a position the Court held consistently through the years in cases such as Ward v. Maryland, 79 U.S. 418 (1871), the Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. 36 (1873) and United States v. Harris, 106 U.S. 629 (1883).[2][3

 

[Crackerjaxon]

Laws need to be changed

The large number of suicides and mass killings shows us that. Crazy people and guns are not a good mix

If you are taking certain medications they will pull your drivers license....why can't we stop you from buying a gun?

Driving is a privilidge, not a right.

You just don't seem to grasp this concept.

Criminals and crazy people do not have a right to own guns

Ah, but you don't have the right to determine who's crazy, do you?

All that needs to be done to deny someone their rights is to get some half-assed shrink to label him depressed or some such shit.

This guy's feeling sad. Therefore he has no right to bear arms.

Sorry. No cigar.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

No, a filibuster means it does not even come up for discussion

I don't care if it passes or not. Let the Senators and Congressmen VOTE to keep AR-15s with high capacity magazines out there

Then, after the next mass killing, we can remind them of their vote

Well yeah, you do have whining rights. We have to give you something.

Since it's plainly unconstitutional, it shouldn't come up for a vote.

From Wikipedia:


A filibuster in the United States Senate usually refers to any dilatory or obstructive tactics used to prevent a measure from being brought to a vote. The most common form of filibuster occurs when a senator attempts to delay or entirely prevent a vote on a bill by extending the debate on the measure, but other dilatory tactics exist. The rules permit a senator, or a series of senators, to speak for as long as they wish and on any topic they choose, unless "three-fifths of the Senators duly chosen and sworn"[1] (usually 60 out of 100 senators) brings debate to a close by invoking cloture under Senate Rule XXII.

According to the Supreme Court ruling in United States v. Ballin (1892), changes to Senate rules could be achieved by a simple majority. Nevertheless, under current Senate rules, a rule change itself could be filibustered, with two-thirds of those senators present and voting (as opposed to the normal three-fifths of those sworn) needing to vote to end debate.[1] Despite this written requirement, the possibility exists that the Senate's presiding officer could on motion declare a Senate rule unconstitutional, which decision can be upheld by a simple majority vote of the Senate.

How can it be plainly unconstitutional when we have already had an assault weapon ban?

And Reid is a fucking pussy for not voting to change the filibuster rules

Because that was unconstitutional, too.

Must everything be explained to you?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Laws need to be changed

The large number of suicides and mass killings shows us that. Crazy people and guns are not a good mix

If you are taking certain medications they will pull your drivers license....why can't we stop you from buying a gun?

Driving is a privilidge, not a right.

You just don't seem to grasp this concept.

Criminals and crazy people do not have a right to own guns

Of course they don't and we already have laws that are designed to prevent this but they're not enforced.

 

[Spoonman]

Obama says he's 'determined as ever' for gun bill | General Headlines | Comcast

With time running out on the chance to pass gun control legislation, President Barack Obama on Monday warned Congress not to use delaying tactics against tighter regulations and told families of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting victims that he's "determined as ever" to honor their children with tougher laws.

Obama's gun control proposals have run into resistance on Capitol Hill, leaving their fate in doubt. Efforts by Senate Democrats to reach compromise with Republicans over expanding required federal background checks have yet to yield an agreement, and conservatives were promising to try blocking the Senate from even beginning debate on gun control legislation.

Bad bad Leroy Brown,baddest ass in the whole dam town............
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wow, this guy is getting really pathetic

 

[rightwinger]

Driving is a privilidge, not a right.

You just don't seem to grasp this concept.

Criminals and crazy people do not have a right to own guns

We already have laws against both of those. Keeping law-abiding sane people from having guns doesn't do anything to prevent criminals and crazy people from getting them.

Very true.

That is why we need improvements in our background checks and reporting of those who have mental issues