PredFan
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Obama-the-Idiot is taking a big chance here. If he moves us out and the regime falls into chaos, it'll guarantee that he gets trounced in 2012.
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Obama-the-Idiot is taking a big chance here. If he moves us out and the regime falls into chaos, it'll guarantee that he gets trounced in 2012.
You don't seem to have a clue what you are talking about
This coming from a numbskull who thinks he can just shout "special forces!" and accomplish any military goal anywhere in the world under any circumstances? Do yourself a favor and shut your stupid hole for a few minutes.
Now you are proving yourself to be a liar. I never said that.
In fact, I never said anything like that.
There is NO need to do anything outside of defending our own nation(homeland), which we're not doing as we allow millions of illegals to invade our home land. No matter how low they're or what crimes they have caused. We should only defend our own land and allow other nations to defend there selfs. We could do some real cuts than.
Not our job to get into the islamic war that has been gong on for 1,400 years and will be going on most likely 1,400 years from now in 3411. It is pure insanity, I believe. My suggestion is to Close the borders, lock the doors and to hell with them...Let them kill each other.
It's not worth our blood or treasure to play empire as it is not worth it. Everyone and every time, we try to help, they HATES us even more. Americans for Americans and that is just the way it should be. War is something that we do only in our national defense. Who the fuck are we to ask our sons to die for another people?
If I'm coming off insane to you; than you must like us in every nation on earth. Why not call us a empire...The roman empire more or less did the same thing using its military to protect other nations and allowing them to join unders its wing. Why do we do it? Why not take our wealth and use it on bettering our self and our people.
Call me what you will, but what sense does it make being a nation that thinks it can stop every war, feed every people and wipe every mans ass for them. Not our job!
Obama-the-Idiot is taking a big chance here. If he moves us out and the regime falls into chaos, it'll guarantee that he gets trounced in 2012.
This is just the point...No islamic nation can stand without a dictator..
This coming from a numbskull who thinks he can just shout "special forces!" and accomplish any military goal anywhere in the world under any circumstances? Do yourself a favor and shut your stupid hole for a few minutes.
Now you are proving yourself to be a liar. I never said that.
In fact, I never said anything like that.
Oh really? Better go back and read your own posts, numbskull.
I agree with Immanuel and his points.
The US's position would be far better today if USA had spent 1-2% of the Iraq-money into better intelligence and counter-operations. USA's PR would still be good and its finances, too.
What terrorist attacks out of Middle-East actually happened against USA independent from US invasion into Iraq?
There was the Navy ship in Yemen (Al-Qaeda-Afghanistan).
Else?
Iraq adventure was a total fail and kicked-off the process of American decline in Middle-East.
So, what have you achieved in Iraq and what were the results for your regional interests besides damaging your PR and forcing regional actors to the conclusion that USA is an aggressor? Off course, from US-centric view you call your actions in Iraq like "generous nation-building", giving a "shot for democracy".
That's not how it's viewed outside of USA.. instead things like yellow-cake from Nigeria, mushroom-clouds and Abu-Ghraib will be written into history books.
Without Iraq adventure the agenda-setting capability in Middle-East would still be in hands of USA. And without the Iraq adventure the USA would also have a better position when it comes intelligence gathering as US's position within most Middle-Eastern countries would be far better and you would have a better pool of willing local informants to gather intelligence.
Now, to the "US Special Forces" flying in like comic heroes... Well, countries hosting terrorist elements are anyway failed states without any worthy military capabilities.
Flying in into Yemen to track down USS Cole bombers is a military operation without much risks (relative).
Which country in Middle-East hosts Al-Qaeda elements? If Al-Qaeda can recruit fighters out of certain countries in Middle-East, they'll travel into those failed states like Afghanistan, Yemen...
My problem with how obama is handling removal of these dictators. No one knows what will be taking there place
With Egypt we already see what bad will come from the muslim brotherhood.
Obamination living off his fake high of Qaddafi dying this week does the stupid political stunt to revive his lameduck job.
He has royally screwed up the economy and ruined our national credit by spending like a crackhead with someone's credit card....so he figures pulling this bullshit will save him from left-wing nuts and some independents.
Iran says thanks....
I'm sure the Iranians and the Syrians are foaming out of their mouths, waiting for January 1, 2012 to arrive.
Another waste of American lives. The leftists got their way. They've been comparing the Iraq War to the Vietnam War for YEARS now.You mean.....the fact we went-INTO Iraq....based on The DICK; Cheney's.....
.....cherry-picked LIES???
I guess the democrats that gave him authorization to go to war based their decisions on lies to.
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Let's not forget, Bush could never have went to war in Iraq, without the democrats approval. How convenient for you to forget that little gem.
Why are we sending troops to Uganda?
Now you are proving yourself to be a liar. I never said that.
In fact, I never said anything like that.
Oh really? Better go back and read your own posts, numbskull.
Obviously you can't read
Oh really? Better go back and read your own posts, numbskull.
Obviously you can't read
I read your own ridiculous and childishly unrealistic comments on the issue.
However, once Iraq's army was subdued, we did not need to maintain the nation building forces we did simply to fight terrorists.
However, once Iraq's army was subdued, we did not need to maintain the nation building forces we did simply to fight terrorists.
You don't like being called an idiot, yet you keep posting stupid shit like this. Have you been asleep for the past decade or so, shitforbrains? You may enjoy living in your own little fantasy world, but that does not make it relevant to this real one. Everything about the (recent, so no excuse) history of the insurgency in Iraq directly contradicts your childish imaginings about what you think could have happened. Yes, you are an idiot.
You don't recall the Battle for Fallujah? A smaller force would have done better there?
You don't recall brave Iaqis defying the terrorists to go and vote on their nation's future? They would have been able to do that with a smaller US presence?
You don't recall what turned things around and enabled us to get the upper hand on the insurgency? What was the word? Surge? Does that sound like more or less force to you, idiot?
Everyday for 9 years, thousands of examples along those same lines, but YOU think a small group could have done just fine because you could invoke the magic words 'Special Forces.' That's just fucking stupid. You're just fucking stupid.
Maybe you want to go back to the Clinton-era approach to terrorism as a mere 'police matter,' but that was painfully proven to be a failure, and your ignorance and juvenile wishes won't help anyone.
Maybe you want to go back to the Clinton-era approach to terrorism as a mere 'police matter,' but that was painfully proven to be a failure, and your ignorance and juvenile wishes won't help anyone.
once Iraq's army was subdued
Where does that say that I thought the Special Forces could take down the Iraqi Army? .