Obama will not sign GOP law to extend subsidies-Breaking

[WelfareQueen]

A Hart Research Associates Poll released on March 2, finds that by a solid 63-29 majority, American voters want to keep Obamacare intact. The national survey of 800 registered voters, conducted on behalf of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), found that 63 percent of respondents would disapprove, if the Supreme Court restricted the availability of tax credits under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), with 44 percent strongly disapproving.

By contrast, just 29 percent of American voters would approve of the Supreme Court siding with the plaintiffs in King v. Burwell. A ruling in favor of the plaintiffs could eliminate the health care subsidies in 34 states. Only 15 percent strongly favored the Court pulling the federal subsidies and depriving millions of Americans of coverage under the ACA.

According to the poll, even 56 percent of Republican voters want to keep the subsidies in place. 74 percent of Democrats and 57 percent of Independents support upholding the subsidies.

http://www.seiu.org/ACA Tax Credits PF.pdf

This polling data directly contradicts the Washington Post polling data just posted....(see GOP voters).

Somebody is lying....wonder who?

 

[Edgetho]

The subsidies should stay with major concessions to make the bill better. Tort reform and the ability to sell insurance across state lines for starters.

Selling Insurance across State Lines accomplishes nothing.

That's a Red Herring.

 

[bendog]

A Hart Research Associates Poll released on March 2, finds that by a solid 63-29 majority, American voters want to keep Obamacare intact. The national survey of 800 registered voters, conducted on behalf of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), found that 63 percent of respondents would disapprove, if the Supreme Court restricted the availability of tax credits under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), with 44 percent strongly disapproving.

By contrast, just 29 percent of American voters would approve of the Supreme Court siding with the plaintiffs in King v. Burwell. A ruling in favor of the plaintiffs could eliminate the health care subsidies in 34 states. Only 15 percent strongly favored the Court pulling the federal subsidies and depriving millions of Americans of coverage under the ACA.

According to the poll, even 56 percent of Republican voters want to keep the subsidies in place. 74 percent of Democrats and 57 percent of Independents support upholding the subsidies.

http://www.seiu.org/ACA Tax Credits PF.pdf

This polling data directly contradicts the Washington Post polling data just posted....(see GOP voters).

Somebody is lying....wonder who?

No it doesn't. Gop voters are minority. Most people want the subsidies left alone. Imo its safe to assume goper will vote gop, and once again the GOP is pising in the post-toasties of the majority. Smmmmoooooth.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Shut her down!

Let's see how willing Obama is to compromise. He's good at that right?

He wants something, the GOP wants something. But this time the GOP have the cards. If it gets killed it will be solely on Obama's hands. Remember, he and the Dims wrote this piece of shit.

 

[WelfareQueen]

The subsidies should stay with major concessions to make the bill better. Tort reform and the ability to sell insurance across state lines for starters.

Selling Insurance across State Lines accomplishes nothing.

That's a Red Herring.

No...because it increases competition.

 

[bendog]

Shut her down!

Let's see how willing Obama is to compromise. He's good at that right?

He wants something, the GOP wants something. But this time the GOP have the cards. If it gets killed it will be solely on Obama's hands. Remember, he and the Dims wrote this piece of shit.

Good luck selling that to the folks in swing states if they lose insurance with a gop court and a gop plaintiff lawsuit. I'm sure the latinos and gays are coming over to the gop too.

 

[WelfareQueen]

A Hart Research Associates Poll released on March 2, finds that by a solid 63-29 majority, American voters want to keep Obamacare intact. The national survey of 800 registered voters, conducted on behalf of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), found that 63 percent of respondents would disapprove, if the Supreme Court restricted the availability of tax credits under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), with 44 percent strongly disapproving.

By contrast, just 29 percent of American voters would approve of the Supreme Court siding with the plaintiffs in King v. Burwell. A ruling in favor of the plaintiffs could eliminate the health care subsidies in 34 states. Only 15 percent strongly favored the Court pulling the federal subsidies and depriving millions of Americans of coverage under the ACA.

According to the poll, even 56 percent of Republican voters want to keep the subsidies in place. 74 percent of Democrats and 57 percent of Independents support upholding the subsidies.

http://www.seiu.org/ACA Tax Credits PF.pdf

This polling data directly contradicts the Washington Post polling data just posted....(see GOP voters).

Somebody is lying....wonder who?

No it doesn't. Gop voters are minority. Most people want the subsidies left alone. Imo its safe to assume goper will vote gop, and once again the GOP is pising in the post-toasties of the majority. Smmmmoooooth.

The GOP will wait to see what the Dims propose and respond accordingly. Wouldn't you?

 

[WelfareQueen]

Shut her down!

Let's see how willing Obama is to compromise. He's good at that right?

He wants something, the GOP wants something. But this time the GOP have the cards. If it gets killed it will be solely on Obama's hands. Remember, he and the Dims wrote this piece of shit.

Good luck selling that to the folks in swing states if they lose insurance with a gop court and a gop plaintiff lawsuit. I'm sure the latinos and gays are coming over to the gop too.

Facts are pesky. Who wrote the Bill? Who is responsible for the fuck up?

Pretty easy to understand, really.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Shut her down!

Let's see how willing Obama is to compromise. He's good at that right?

He wants something, the GOP wants something. But this time the GOP have the cards. If it gets killed it will be solely on Obama's hands. Remember, he and the Dims wrote this piece of shit.

Good luck selling that to the folks in swing states if they lose insurance with a gop court and a gop plaintiff lawsuit. I'm sure the latinos and gays are coming over to the gop too.

Tell the folks the truth. It was 100% a Dim Law that was poorly written. The Dims did not put forth a viable proposal to fix the shit bill they wrote.

What don't you understand?

 

[The Rabbi]

It seems the catching point is "But Burwell said the measure would also take away the subsidies over time and repeal important components of Obamacare such as guaranteeing insurance for Americans with pre-existing health conditions.
Burwell Obama wouldn t sign GOP plan to extend insurance subsidies - Yahoo News
Did you predict that? What objection do you have against guaranteeing insurance for American's with pre-existing conditions?

Of course there is no detailed GOP proposal so she (and you) are talking out of your ass.
I did predict Obama would only sign a "clean bill". And it's sure moving in that direction.

 

[hazlnut]

SecHHS Burwell says Obama will not sign a law that would extend subsidies if the USSC strikes them down.
This is exactly what I predicted: Obama will insist on a "clean bill" that would simply enshrine into law his own administrative actions. Obama is playing politics here. But watch for the GOP to cave ahead of the election.
Burwell Obama wouldn t sign GOP plan to extend insurance subsidies - Yahoo News

"Obama is playing politics" - funny, when a Tea Baggers does it, you call it sticking to their convictions.

And when a GOPer compromises, you call them weak.

You are so full of shit. Do you see that?

 

[The Rabbi]

It seems the catching point is "But Burwell said the measure would also take away the subsidies over time and repeal important components of Obamacare such as guaranteeing insurance for Americans with pre-existing health conditions.
Burwell Obama wouldn t sign GOP plan to extend insurance subsidies - Yahoo News
Did you predict that? What objection do you have against guaranteeing insurance for American's with pre-existing conditions?

Why do Republicans have so much of a problem with covering pre-existing conditions?

An overwhelming majority of Americans support it

Until they see what it does to their insurance premiums. You think that shit is free?

 

[hazlnut]

The GOP could have passed a fix a long time ago, but preferred instead to create a constitutional crisis.

So is it really surprising they STILL won't pass a fix without adding a bunch of poison pills to create ANOTHER crisis?

Nope. Not surprising at all.

Party over country. Fuck all those people whose subsidies they are messing with. This is how you win votes!

Funny. Really funny. The bill was passed without one republican vote - and now, you claim the "republicans could have already fixed this mess".

Funny.

They have had a majority in the house for some time.

What have they done? What have they proposed?

 

[g5000]

The subsidies should stay with major concessions to make the bill better. Tort reform and the ability to sell insurance across state lines for starters.

Selling Insurance across State Lines accomplishes nothing.

Tell that to the auto, life, and home insurance industries.

 

[WelfareQueen]

It seems the catching point is "But Burwell said the measure would also take away the subsidies over time and repeal important components of Obamacare such as guaranteeing insurance for Americans with pre-existing health conditions.
Burwell Obama wouldn t sign GOP plan to extend insurance subsidies - Yahoo News
Did you predict that? What objection do you have against guaranteeing insurance for American's with pre-existing conditions?

Of course there is no detailed GOP proposal so she (and you) are talking out of your ass.
I did predict Obama would only sign a "clean bill". And it's sure moving in that direction.

If so....then the lack of subsidies will be 100% on Obama and the Dims.

 

[Derideo_Te]

A Hart Research Associates Poll released on March 2, finds that by a solid 63-29 majority, American voters want to keep Obamacare intact. The national survey of 800 registered voters, conducted on behalf of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), found that 63 percent of respondents would disapprove, if the Supreme Court restricted the availability of tax credits under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), with 44 percent strongly disapproving.

By contrast, just 29 percent of American voters would approve of the Supreme Court siding with the plaintiffs in King v. Burwell. A ruling in favor of the plaintiffs could eliminate the health care subsidies in 34 states. Only 15 percent strongly favored the Court pulling the federal subsidies and depriving millions of Americans of coverage under the ACA.

According to the poll, even 56 percent of Republican voters want to keep the subsidies in place. 74 percent of Democrats and 57 percent of Independents support upholding the subsidies.

http://www.seiu.org/ACA Tax Credits PF.pdf

This polling data directly contradicts the Washington Post polling data just posted....(see GOP voters).

Somebody is lying....wonder who?

You are because it doesn't!

 

[WelfareQueen]

A Hart Research Associates Poll released on March 2, finds that by a solid 63-29 majority, American voters want to keep Obamacare intact. The national survey of 800 registered voters, conducted on behalf of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), found that 63 percent of respondents would disapprove, if the Supreme Court restricted the availability of tax credits under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), with 44 percent strongly disapproving.

By contrast, just 29 percent of American voters would approve of the Supreme Court siding with the plaintiffs in King v. Burwell. A ruling in favor of the plaintiffs could eliminate the health care subsidies in 34 states. Only 15 percent strongly favored the Court pulling the federal subsidies and depriving millions of Americans of coverage under the ACA.

According to the poll, even 56 percent of Republican voters want to keep the subsidies in place. 74 percent of Democrats and 57 percent of Independents support upholding the subsidies.

http://www.seiu.org/ACA Tax Credits PF.pdf

This polling data directly contradicts the Washington Post polling data just posted....(see GOP voters).

Somebody is lying....wonder who?

You are because it doesn't!

No sweetie....try again. You can't read numbers I guess. Stop breathing through your mouth and look specifically at the GOP numbers in both polls. Look real careful and get back to me.

 

[OKTexas]

The GOP could have passed a fix a long time ago, but preferred instead to create a constitutional crisis.

So is it really surprising they STILL won't pass a fix without adding a bunch of poison pills to create ANOTHER crisis?

Nope. Not surprising at all.

Party over country. Fuck all those people whose subsidies they are messing with. This is how you win votes!

Considering republicans were elected in big numbers on the promise of dismantling mcare, I'd say they are doing their jobs. The commies should have gotten it right the first time.

 

[The Rabbi]

In 1998, the Republican Congress passed a budget. This budget had Medicare cuts in it.

Just about every year since then, every Congress has had to write a "doc fix" as a result of that 1998 Republican legislation.

Yeeeees, both Democratic and Republican Congresses have passed those doc fixes.

So I will leave it up to you, dear Reader, to decide which post is coffee spitting worthy. The one where I said the Republicans could have fixed the subsidy problem any time they wished, or the one where RandallFlag felt it was not possible for Republicans to pass legislation making repairs to a Democratic-passed law.

The GOP just got rid of the doc fix. Democrats did nothing.
You really are an ignorant boob, arent you?

 

[WelfareQueen]

Derideo_Te


I'll make it easy for tiny minds.

Washington Post Poll.

"Fifty-five percent of Republicans say the court should rule against the subsidies."


Poll Jake posted.


"According to the poll, even 56 percent of Republican voters want to keep the subsidies in place."


Direct contradiction. God....libturds are so fucking stupid. Good times.....