Obamacare Is Secretly A Bailout Of State And Local Governments

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It seems like every day we have to take another bite of this shit sandwich:


Here's a feature of Obamacare you probably don't know about: A transfer of hundreds of billions of dollars in liabilities to retired public employees from state and local governments to federal taxpayers.

Here's how it's going to work.

States and localities have enormous liabilities in the form of health benefits they have promised to provide to retired workers. (Finance professionals call these benefits OPEB, or "other post-employment benefits.") Most public sector retirees get health plans until they turn 65, and then supplemental coverage on top of Medicare after that.

In most cases, state and local governments haven't prefunded these liabilities at all. As Americans age and health care costs rise, this is becoming a major drain on state and local finances, arguably more important than more-widely-discussed problems with public employee pensions.

But Obamacare will give states and cities a major out. Instead of providing health care to under-65 retirees, they can tell them to go buy health plans in the Obamacare exchanges. In many cases, those retirees will qualify for substantial subsidies to buy such plans. States and localities will often stand to save thousands of dollars per retiree per year, even if they provide a cash stipend to help each employee buy insurance in the exchange.

All told, state and local governments should be able to shift hundreds of billions of dollars in OPEB liabilities to the federal government. That will mean major savings for those governments. But it will also drive costs upward at the federal level.

Read more: Obamacare Is A Stealth Bailout Of State And Local Governments - Business Insider
 
Detroit, as part of its bankruptcy plan, wants to stop providing health care to retirees and instead give them each a $125 monthly stipend to buy insurance in the exchange. Currently, Detroit spends $721 per month per retiree on health benefits, so this move will allow Detroit to cut its OPEB liability by 80%.

:lol:

This shit is fucking rich.

IT'S RICH, JERRY. RICH!
 
Company's are now doing that. Shove your retiree's on the public dole. That was the goal all along.
 
It seems like every day we have to take another bite of this shit sandwich:


Here's a feature of Obamacare you probably don't know about: A transfer of hundreds of billions of dollars in liabilities to retired public employees from state and local governments to federal taxpayers.

Here's how it's going to work.

States and localities have enormous liabilities in the form of health benefits they have promised to provide to retired workers. (Finance professionals call these benefits OPEB, or "other post-employment benefits.") Most public sector retirees get health plans until they turn 65, and then supplemental coverage on top of Medicare after that.

In most cases, state and local governments haven't prefunded these liabilities at all. As Americans age and health care costs rise, this is becoming a major drain on state and local finances, arguably more important than more-widely-discussed problems with public employee pensions.

But Obamacare will give states and cities a major out. Instead of providing health care to under-65 retirees, they can tell them to go buy health plans in the Obamacare exchanges. In many cases, those retirees will qualify for substantial subsidies to buy such plans. States and localities will often stand to save thousands of dollars per retiree per year, even if they provide a cash stipend to help each employee buy insurance in the exchange.

All told, state and local governments should be able to shift hundreds of billions of dollars in OPEB liabilities to the federal government. That will mean major savings for those governments. But it will also drive costs upward at the federal level.

Read more: Obamacare Is A Stealth Bailout Of State And Local Governments - Business Insider

I think I'd characterize it more as a 'buyout' than a bailout. They're basically being paid off to accept the federal power grab.

But yeah, same shit, different sandwich.
 
There's also a 3.8 per cent tax on the rich, right...which they richly deserve.

Yes, O-care IS saving the country's ass, in the nick of time...
 
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Yes, I do, young punk Pub dupe...

Ha. You are far from knowing anything. You are the one who has been duped, dupe. Into thinking Obamacare would be end all be all of insurance coverage. Or that it would lower healthcare costs.

How much of a sheep are you to be lead to slaughter by a shepherd of lies?
 
yes, young fella, there is a 3.8 per cent tax on the rich, and O-Care will cut costs, except in Pub dupe land. AND this is the Nixon/Heritage/Dole/Pub style plan...except for that tax on the rich lol...

AND I DON'T HATE any OF YOU FOOLS, JUST THE A-HOLES THAT FILL YOUR IGNORANT HEADS WITH HORSESHYTTE. YOU NAME IT, EVERYTHING YOU KNOW ABOUT O-CARE IS BS...
 
yes, young fella, there is a 3.8 per cent tax on the rich, and O-Care will cut costs, except in Pub dupe land. AND this is the Nixon/Heritage/Dole/Pub style plan...except for that tax on the rich lol...

AND I DON'T HATE any OF YOU FOOLS, JUST THE A-HOLES THAT FILL YOUR IGNORANT HEADS WITH HORSESHYTTE. YOU NAME IT, EVERYTHING YOU KNOW ABOUT O-CARE IS BS...

LMAO.

Caps lock off, you idiot.

Yeah, and I think you know what all 2700 pages say about it, too. Funny, you're the only one living in the past. The rest of us have gone to a place called "reality."

:laugh:
 
yes, young fella, there is a 3.8 per cent tax on the rich, and O-Care will cut costs, except in Pub dupe land. AND this is the Nixon/Heritage/Dole/Pub style plan...except for that tax on the rich lol...

AND I DON'T HATE any OF YOU FOOLS, JUST THE A-HOLES THAT FILL YOUR IGNORANT HEADS WITH HORSESHYTTE. YOU NAME IT, EVERYTHING YOU KNOW ABOUT O-CARE IS BS...

Neither do I hate you, regardless of you mental deficiencies.
 

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