Obama's mentor

[Redfish]

same message, different words. If you libs can't see that then there is nothing more to be said.

The sad thing is that Alinsky's tactics work.

Should both parties implement them? Would that make the USA a better society?

Does the end always justify the means?

Is a win by cheating a good win?

Sorry, dude - It's NOT the same message - not by a mile! What you posted was misinformation and never attributed to Alinsky.

A complete misquote.


Also, there's this matter of Alinsky being Obama's "mentor."

This is very similar to attempts to tie Obama to Bill Ayers - they barely knew one another and the only real connection to Ayers, was a fundraiser and serving on the same comity together.

Wonder what the connection to Alinsky was??? Did he once actually say "bless you" when Obama sneezed or something?

Of course Obama was in fourth grade while Alinsky was writing his "Rules"

To Redfish....I guess that makes him a mentor

I am well aware that you lefties will never admit to who and what obama really is, and thats fine. If you choose to live in a fantasy world and grin like a jackass eating a shit sandwich, thats also fine.

Alinsky wrote "rules for radicals" obama is a radical. Obama is following Alinsky's rules. The USA is being brought to its knees and you stupid assholes refuse to open you eyes and see what is happening.

Obama is destroying the future of your children and grand children, and you silly libtardian fools just continue to worship each new pile of shit that he dumps on your kitchen table.


Liberalism is truly a mental disease.

 

[rightwinger]

Sorry, dude - It's NOT the same message - not by a mile! What you posted was misinformation and never attributed to Alinsky.

A complete misquote.


Also, there's this matter of Alinsky being Obama's "mentor."

This is very similar to attempts to tie Obama to Bill Ayers - they barely knew one another and the only real connection to Ayers, was a fundraiser and serving on the same comity together.

Wonder what the connection to Alinsky was??? Did he once actually say "bless you" when Obama sneezed or something?

Of course Obama was in fourth grade while Alinsky was writing his "Rules"

To Redfish....I guess that makes him a mentor

I am well aware that you lefties will never admit to who and what obama really is, and thats fine. If you choose to live in a fantasy world and grin like a jackass eating a shit sandwich, thats also fine.

Alinsky wrote "rules for radicals" obama is a radical. Obama is following Alinsky's rules. The USA is being brought to its knees and you stupid assholes refuse to open you eyes and see what is happening.

Obama is destroying the future of your children and grand children, and you silly libtardian fools just continue to worship each new pile of shit that he dumps on your kitchen table.


Liberalism is truly a mental disease.

Are you here to apologize for posting this thread and admit how gullible you are?

 

[Redfish]

Of course Obama was in fourth grade while Alinsky was writing his "Rules"

To Redfish....I guess that makes him a mentor

I am well aware that you lefties will never admit to who and what obama really is, and thats fine. If you choose to live in a fantasy world and grin like a jackass eating a shit sandwich, thats also fine.

Alinsky wrote "rules for radicals" obama is a radical. Obama is following Alinsky's rules. The USA is being brought to its knees and you stupid assholes refuse to open you eyes and see what is happening.

Obama is destroying the future of your children and grand children, and you silly libtardian fools just continue to worship each new pile of shit that he dumps on your kitchen table.


Liberalism is truly a mental disease.

Are you here to apologize for posting this thread and admit how gullible you are?

Are you here to admit that you are a mental midgit with the thinking ability of a slug?

The message of the OP is accurate. Obama is doing exactly what the OP describes. He is using his version of Alinsky's tactics, so was Ayres. Ayres admitted that in the interview with Megan Kelley last week.

 

[rightwinger]

I am well aware that you lefties will never admit to who and what obama really is, and thats fine. If you choose to live in a fantasy world and grin like a jackass eating a shit sandwich, thats also fine.

Alinsky wrote "rules for radicals" obama is a radical. Obama is following Alinsky's rules. The USA is being brought to its knees and you stupid assholes refuse to open you eyes and see what is happening.

Obama is destroying the future of your children and grand children, and you silly libtardian fools just continue to worship each new pile of shit that he dumps on your kitchen table.


Liberalism is truly a mental disease.

Are you here to apologize for posting this thread and admit how gullible you are?

Are you here to admit that you are a mental midgit with the thinking ability of a slug?

The message of the OP is accurate. Obama is doing exactly what the OP describes. He is using his version of Alinsky's tactics, so was Ayres. Ayres admitted that in the interview with Megan Kelley last week.

If it is accurate.....then why don't you give us a link showing where and when Allinsky said what you claim he did?
You claim to quote Allinsky...why don't you reference your quote?

Better yet, why don't you act like a man and admit you were wrong?

 

[Peach]

Are you here to apologize for posting this thread and admit how gullible you are?

Are you here to admit that you are a mental midgit with the thinking ability of a slug?

The message of the OP is accurate. Obama is doing exactly what the OP describes. He is using his version of Alinsky's tactics, so was Ayres. Ayres admitted that in the interview with Megan Kelley last week.

If it is accurate.....then why don't you give us a link showing where and when Allinsky said what you claim he did?
You claim to quote Allinsky...why don't you reference your quote?

Better yet, why don't you act like a man and admit you were wrong?

Or a woman, and own up to the fact Alinsky died when the President was ten years old.

 

[rightwinger]

If you consider facts to be bullshit----------------

But the OP is accurate, it is happening as we speak. and you are too fricken dumb to realize it, son.

The OP is INACCURATE because Alinsky never said the things you attributed to him. Your responses are just more deflection. Take it like a man and admit you've been duped.

The quotes are from his book, idiot. Did he not write his book

His book?

Which book? Provide us with a direct quote


Why don't you just man up and admit how gullible you are?

 

[rightwinger]

The above-quoted list of steps for "How to create a social state," circulated in January 2014, is another example of a political linking of the names of Saul Alinsky and Barack Obama. It's not something taken from the actual writings of Saul Alinsky, though, and to those familiar with his background it doesn't even sound like something he would have written (e.g., the line about "controlling health care" is anachronistic for his era, and the idea of "increasing the poverty level as high as possible" is the very antithesis of what Alinsky worked to achieve).
Read more at snopes.com: Saul Alinsky: How to Create a Social State

 

[Redfish]

Are you here to admit that you are a mental midgit with the thinking ability of a slug?

The message of the OP is accurate. Obama is doing exactly what the OP describes. He is using his version of Alinsky's tactics, so was Ayres. Ayres admitted that in the interview with Megan Kelley last week.

If it is accurate.....then why don't you give us a link showing where and when Allinsky said what you claim he did?
You claim to quote Allinsky...why don't you reference your quote?

Better yet, why don't you act like a man and admit you were wrong?

Or a woman, and own up to the fact Alinsky died when the President was ten years old.

So what? how old was he when Plato died? How old was he when Lenin and Marx died?

What is stated in the OP, is being done by Obama. Those tactics are derived from Alinsky's teachings, maybe not ver batum, but in theory they are the same.

 

[Redfish]

The above-quoted list of steps for "How to create a social state," circulated in January 2014, is another example of a political linking of the names of Saul Alinsky and Barack Obama. It's not something taken from the actual writings of Saul Alinsky, though, and to those familiar with his background it doesn't even sound like something he would have written (e.g., the line about "controlling health care" is anachronistic for his era, and the idea of "increasing the poverty level as high as possible" is the very antithesis of what Alinsky worked to achieve).
Read more at snopes.com: Saul Alinsky: How to Create a Social State

Snopes is a left wing site. That was established earlier in this thread.

 

[rightwinger]

The above-quoted list of steps for "How to create a social state," circulated in January 2014, is another example of a political linking of the names of Saul Alinsky and Barack Obama. It's not something taken from the actual writings of Saul Alinsky, though, and to those familiar with his background it doesn't even sound like something he would have written (e.g., the line about "controlling health care" is anachronistic for his era, and the idea of "increasing the poverty level as high as possible" is the very antithesis of what Alinsky worked to achieve).
Read more at snopes.com: Saul Alinsky: How to Create a Social State

Snopes is a left wing site. That was established earlier in this thread.

They are?

Then why won't you prove them wrong by posting a link to Allinsky saying what you said he did?

Should be easy

 

[rightwinger]

If it is accurate.....then why don't you give us a link showing where and when Allinsky said what you claim he did?
You claim to quote Allinsky...why don't you reference your quote?

Better yet, why don't you act like a man and admit you were wrong?

Or a woman, and own up to the fact Alinsky died when the President was ten years old.

So what? how old was he when Plato died? How old was he when Lenin and Marx died?

What is stated in the OP, is being done by Obama. Those tactics are derived from Alinsky's teachings, maybe not ver batum, but in theory they are the same.

Backing away from what you claimed were direct quotes

If those tactics are derived from Allinskys teachings. Why don't you show us where Allinsky ever taught about healthcare, increasing poverty levels, gun control or increasing debt?

Why don't you just man up and admit you were wrong

 

[Redfish]

The above-quoted list of steps for "How to create a social state," circulated in January 2014, is another example of a political linking of the names of Saul Alinsky and Barack Obama. It's not something taken from the actual writings of Saul Alinsky, though, and to those familiar with his background it doesn't even sound like something he would have written (e.g., the line about "controlling health care" is anachronistic for his era, and the idea of "increasing the poverty level as high as possible" is the very antithesis of what Alinsky worked to achieve).
Read more at snopes.com: Saul Alinsky: How to Create a Social State

Obama and Alinsky: Another Radical Connection

 

[BlindBoo]

The above-quoted list of steps for "How to create a social state," circulated in January 2014, is another example of a political linking of the names of Saul Alinsky and Barack Obama. It's not something taken from the actual writings of Saul Alinsky, though, and to those familiar with his background it doesn't even sound like something he would have written (e.g., the line about "controlling health care" is anachronistic for his era, and the idea of "increasing the poverty level as high as possible" is the very antithesis of what Alinsky worked to achieve).
Read more at snopes.com: Saul Alinsky: How to Create a Social State

Snopes is a left wing site. That was established earlier in this thread.

WTF does that have to do with you posting those lies and claiming Saul Alinsky wrote them. You do understand what a lie is right?

 

[Redfish]

Or a woman, and own up to the fact Alinsky died when the President was ten years old.

So what? how old was he when Plato died? How old was he when Lenin and Marx died?

What is stated in the OP, is being done by Obama. Those tactics are derived from Alinsky's teachings, maybe not ver batum, but in theory they are the same.

Backing away from what you claimed were direct quotes

If those tactics are derived from Allinskys teachings. Why don't you show us where Allinsky ever taught about healthcare, increasing poverty levels, gun control or increasing debt?

Why don't you just man up and admit you were wrong

when I am wrong, I admit it. Obama is implementing Alinsky's tactics. Deny that reality if you choose. Believe whatever you choose about your kenyan messiah. Your beliefs do not change reality. What you want him to be does not change what he is.

 

[Redfish]

The above-quoted list of steps for "How to create a social state," circulated in January 2014, is another example of a political linking of the names of Saul Alinsky and Barack Obama. It's not something taken from the actual writings of Saul Alinsky, though, and to those familiar with his background it doesn't even sound like something he would have written (e.g., the line about "controlling health care" is anachronistic for his era, and the idea of "increasing the poverty level as high as possible" is the very antithesis of what Alinsky worked to achieve).
Read more at snopes.com: Saul Alinsky: How to Create a Social State

Snopes is a left wing site. That was established earlier in this thread.

WTF does that have to do with you posting those lies and claiming Saul Alinsky wrote them. You do understand what a lie is right?

Obama and Alinsky: Another Radical Connection

 

[rightwinger]

So what? how old was he when Plato died? How old was he when Lenin and Marx died?

What is stated in the OP, is being done by Obama. Those tactics are derived from Alinsky's teachings, maybe not ver batum, but in theory they are the same.

Backing away from what you claimed were direct quotes

If those tactics are derived from Allinskys teachings. Why don't you show us where Alinsky ever taught about healthcare, increasing poverty levels, gun control or increasing debt?

Why don't you just man up and admit you were wrong

when I am wrong, I admit it. Obama is implementing Alinsky's tactics. Deny that reality if you choose. Believe whatever you choose about your kenyan messiah. Your beliefs do not change reality. What you want him to be does not change what he is.

All we have asked you is to show us

You have already admitted that what you claim are direct quotes from Allinsky are in fact made up

If you claim Obama is implementing Alinskys tactics, show us anywhere that Allinsky advocated healthcare (not a big issue in the early 70s) or Allinsky advocated increasing debt (not a concern pre-Reagan) or Allinsky advocated increasing poverty

 

[rightwinger]

If anyone is implementing Alinsky tactics, it is obviously Redfish

 

[paperview]

At the bended knee of this man

came your last GOP presidential candidate.

"I think you ought to listen to Alinsky." George Romney

 

[BlindBoo]

Snopes is a left wing site. That was established earlier in this thread.

WTF does that have to do with you posting those lies and claiming Saul Alinsky wrote them. You do understand what a lie is right?

Obama and Alinsky: Another Radical Connection

Thanks for proving you lied. In your first post you said:

There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.

1) Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people.

Can't seem to find that anywhere in your second link.

 

[Ava]

Obama's mentor

Don't have the time to go through the thread but has anyone mentioned the communist, Frank Marshall, to whom Barry's grandfather left his grandson to benefit from Marshall's tutelage?