Obama's New Tax Hikes Aid the Middle Class?

[Iceweasel]

Do you REALLY think there is more than 100% to the pie??

Wealth is a Zero-Sum Game

Only economic retards think there is a such thing as "the" pie. The economic pies grows and shrinks. But what is certain is obamanomics is benefiting the top earners and convincing his dupes that the Republicans didit. obama creates problems, blames them on the other guy and his useful idiots buy it.

 

[Iceweasel]

90%+ of current debt can be traced back to policy of Reagan, Bush and Bush
Starve the beast - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Wikipedia? That means you don't have shit.

 

[hortysir]

Pointless.
Stupid oversized font, copy/paste garbage.
I'm sorry that you feel your success hinges on the failure of others.
Seems like with all the failed banks and foreclosed homes you should be sitting pretty.

Who was that other assclown that thought large font and bright colors proved his drivel?

 

[Iceweasel]

Pointless.
Stupid oversized font, copy/paste garbage.
I'm sorry that you feel your success hinges on the failure of others.
Seems like with all the failed banks and foreclosed homes you should be sitting pretty.

Who was that other assclown that thought large font and bright colors proved his drivel?

It's the equivalent to shouting. He thinks the loudest most prolific voice wins. Like most toddlers.

 

[BlackSand]

Only economic retards think there is a such thing as "the" pie. The economic pies grows and shrinks. But what is certain is obamanomics is benefiting the top earners and convincing his dupes that the Republicans didit. obama creates problems, blames them on the other guy and his useful idiots buy it.

It is the same people that stand and applaud when the President says he is going to make people play by the same rules and pay a fair tax by changing the rules and making some people pay more.

.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I would say we all benefit from public transportation,roads,welfare,snap and a million other ways.

But who pays for it all?

 

[Stephanie]

Here's your life he's see's for you in the middle class. ENJOY living off the backs of your fellow countrymen and women

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Here's your life he's see's for you in the middle class. ENJOY living off the backs of your fellow countrymen and women

Holy crap that's creepy!
Have we really reached a point where this kind of stuff can be proposed and the American people dont even blink?
Liberals,is this really what you want? The government having everything to do with your success and or failure,and the power to influence it?

 

[Dad2three]

Do you REALLY think there is more than 100% to the pie??

Wealth is a Zero-Sum Game

Only economic retards think there is a such thing as "the" pie. The economic pies grows and shrinks. But what is certain is obamanomics is benefiting the top earners and convincing his dupes that the Republicans didit. obama creates problems, blames them on the other guy and his useful idiots buy it.

So you 'think' there is more than 100% of a pie to split up huh? lol

 

[Dad2three]

90%+ of current debt can be traced back to policy of Reagan, Bush and Bush
Starve the beast - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Wikipedia? That means you don't have shit.

So that's NOT been the GOP's game for 30+ years AND Ronnie DIDN'T say that on national TV? LOL

 

[Dad2three]

Here's your life he's see's for you in the middle class. ENJOY living off the backs of your fellow countrymen and women

80% of the population owns 5% of the wealth.

Who Rules America Wealth Income and Power

The middle class has been eviscerated



"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." - Louis D. Brandeis


"The only orthodox object of the institution of government is to secure the greatest degree of happiness possible to the general mass of those associated under it." Thomas Jefferson

 

[Darkwind]

Any attempt to help the idle class will never become law anyway, the GOP doesn't want to see that... its socialism. Perhaps the GOP cold try to raise taxes on the middle class by 20 percent and lower the 1 percent fat cats by 20 percent. I will bet everything I own there are some who believe this would create jobs or something.

You assume his plan would help the middle class.

It will not, which is why we are against it.

 

[Iceweasel]

So you 'think' there is more than 100% of a pie to split up huh? lol

You missed the point. Which was my point. "The pie" isn't divided up in a free country. Some people earn more than others but even those on the low end can eat more if the pie grows. Government in bed with some bakers ensures they get a bigger slice and you think Bush stole yours.

 

[Dad2three]

Pointless.
Stupid oversized font, copy/paste garbage.
I'm sorry that you feel your success hinges on the failure of others.
Seems like with all the failed banks and foreclosed homes you should be sitting pretty.

Who was that other assclown that thought large font and bright colors proved his drivel?

So like most right wingers, ALL you have are opinions, based on bullshit premises. Got it

 

[Darkwind]

Do you REALLY think there is more than 100% to the pie??

Wealth is a Zero-Sum Game

Only economic retards think there is a such thing as "the" pie. The economic pies grows and shrinks. But what is certain is obamanomics is benefiting the top earners and convincing his dupes that the Republicans didit. obama creates problems, blames them on the other guy and his useful idiots buy it.

So you 'think' there is more than 100% of a pie to split up huh? lol

Oh, look, the moron still thinks the pie remains the same size forever.

 

[Dad2three]

Only economic retards think there is a such thing as "the" pie. The economic pies grows and shrinks. But what is certain is obamanomics is benefiting the top earners and convincing his dupes that the Republicans didit. obama creates problems, blames them on the other guy and his useful idiots buy it.

It is the same people that stand and applaud when the President says he is going to make people play by the same rules and pay a fair tax by changing the rules and making some people pay more.

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The fortunate 400

400 tax returns reporting the highest incomes in 2009.

Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.

another 110 families paid 15 percent or less in federal income taxes.
The fortunate 400 David Cay Johnston Reuters

The 400 richest Americans used to pay 30% of their income on the average to Uncle Sam(but 55% in 1955).

Overall, the top 400 paid an average income tax rate of 19.9 percent, the same rate paid by a single worker who made $110,000 in 2009. The top 400 earned five times that much every day.

Just 82 of the top 400 were taxed in accord with the Buffett rule, which proposes a minimum tax of 30 percent on annual incomes greater than $1 million


A 2011 study by the CBO found that the top earning 1 percent of households gained about 275% after federal taxes and income transfers over a period between 1979 and 2007


Trends in the Distribution of Household Income Between 1979 and 2007 Congressional Budget Office


275 percent for the top 1 percent of households,
65 percent for the next 19 percent,
Just under 40 percent for the next 60 percent, and
18 percent for the bottom 20 percent.

 

[Dad2three]

I would say we all benefit from public transportation,roads,welfare,snap and a million other ways.

But who pays for it all?

You mean the $18 trillion in debt since Reagan cut taxes for the rich?

 

[Dad2three]

Do you REALLY think there is more than 100% to the pie??

Wealth is a Zero-Sum Game

Only economic retards think there is a such thing as "the" pie. The economic pies grows and shrinks. But what is certain is obamanomics is benefiting the top earners and convincing his dupes that the Republicans didit. obama creates problems, blames them on the other guy and his useful idiots buy it.

So you 'think' there is more than 100% of a pie to split up huh? lol

Oh, look, the moron still thinks the pie remains the same size forever.

And the moron can't use reason, logic OR HONESTY to dispute there isn't more than 100% of the pie, AND the bottom 90% has lasy MUCH of what they had in 1980 of that PIECE OF THE PIE

CBO finds that, between 1979 and 2007, income grew by:

275 percent for the top 1 percent of households,
65 percent for the next 19 percent,
Just under 40 percent for the next 60 percent, and
18 percent for the bottom 20 percent.


The share of income going to higher-income households rose, while the share going to lower-income households fell.

The top fifth of the population saw a 10-percentage-point increase in their share of after-tax income.

Most of that growth went to the top 1 percent of the population.
All other groups saw their shares decline by 2 to 3 percentage points.


Trends in the Distribution of Household Income Between 1979 and 2007 Congressional Budget Office

 

[Dad2three]

So you 'think' there is more than 100% of a pie to split up huh? lol

You missed the point. Which was my point. "The pie" isn't divided up in a free country. Some people earn more than others but even those on the low end can eat more if the pie grows. Government in bed with some bakers ensures they get a bigger slice and you think Bush stole yours.

More BULLSHIT PREMISES not REFUTING FACTS GOT IT


Wealth is a Zero-Sum Game


Conservative damagogues like Limbaugh have been able to convince the public that the huge incomes of the wealthiest Americans are irrelevant to those who make moderate-to-low incomes. They even suggest that the more money the wealthiest Americans make, the more wealth will trickle down to the lower classes.

If you've swallowed this line of conservative garbage, get ready to vomit. As all conservative economists know, and deny to the public that they know, wealth is a zero-sum game. That is true at both the front end—when income is divided up, and the back end—when it is spent.

The Front End of Zero-Sum: Dividing the Loot

There is only so much corporate income in a given year. The more of that income that is used to pay workers, the less profit the corporation makes. The less profit, the less the stock goes up. The less the stock goes up, the less the CEO and the investors make. It’s as simple as that. Profit equals income minus expenses. No more, no less. Subtract the right side of the equation from the left side and the answer is always zero. Hence the term, “zero-sum.”

The Zero-sum Nature of economics

 

[Iceweasel]

More BULLSHIT PREMISES not REFUTING FACTS GOT IT

What you got is a mental illness that should have been treated long ago. Bush owns you.