Obama's OFA is a a 501(c)4

[boedicca]

An example from the report:

News Note

On March 1, 2011, HUD awarded a $79,819 grant to AHCOA to “educate the public and housing providers about their rights and obligations under federal, state,and local fair housing laws.” Although the grant was reportedly for AHCOA, the government’s website listing federal expenditures identies the organization receiving the $79,819 grant as “ACORN Housing Corporation Inc.” and lists ACORN’s NewOrleans, Louisiana, address.
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So the flood of federal funds continues to ACORNaffiates thanks to Obama – and at least one other ACORN-connected Obama administration official.

The New York Times reported in October 2009 that “perhaps no administration official has had more interaction with Acorn [sic] than [Shaun]Donovan,” who is Obama’s Secretary of Housing and Urban Development. The Times notes that Donovan “worked closely” with ACORN’s politically-powerful New York housing affiliate when he was a New York City housing official.


A Judicial Watch Special Report: The Rebranding of Acorn

 

[JakeStarkey]

I also want an objective link to any so called ACORN "remnants".

Here you go - although I doubt you have the cognitive ability to understand it.

Judicial Watch Releases Special Report: ?The Rebranding of ACORN? | Judicial Watch

"might be"

"suggest"

Judicial Watch

really????

 

[JakeStarkey]

Come on, Boedicca, stop being a homer for the reactionary wack creepy far right, and work on serving the American mainstream.

We need the far left and Obama gone, but the far right is keep him and them in power.

 

[depotoo]

Name one tea party group..or conservative group that was denied 501c status..or was "silenced".

Link too.

many have been silenced through their lack of approval for up to and over 3 years.

 

[boedicca]

BZZZTTTTT!!!! Jakey loses the intelligence test.

His consolation prize is a new ObamaPhone and a bill for $20,000 for his first year ObamaCare coverage.

 

[JakeStarkey]

His consolation prize is a new ObamaPhone and a bill for $20,000 for his first year ObamaCare coverage.

You moron. I am covered 100% by VA. Unlike you, I earned my way as an American.

 

[boedicca]

If you think the only way one "earns" one's way is to be covered by the VA, then you continue to prove your complete and utter ignorance of what America really means.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Name one tea party group..or conservative group that was denied 501c status..or was "silenced".

Link too.

many have been silenced through their lack of approval for up to and over 3 years.

None have been "silenced".

501c4s are not prevented from operating while the approval is pending.

 

[Yurt]

Name one tea party group..or conservative group that was denied 501c status..or was "silenced".

Link too.

many have been silenced through their lack of approval for up to and over 3 years.

None have been "silenced".

501c4s are not prevented from operating while the approval is pending.

they weren't allowed the status and they were investigated, at a minimum that is chilling their speech.

 

[depotoo]

Name one tea party group..or conservative group that was denied 501c status..or was "silenced".

Link too.

many have been silenced through their lack of approval for up to and over 3 years.

None have been "silenced".

501c4s are not prevented from operating while the approval is pending.

hmmm, the fact their potential contributors could not get proof they were a legitimate organization filed under 501c(4) status didn't have any effects? Seriously?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

many have been silenced through their lack of approval for up to and over 3 years.

None have been "silenced".

501c4s are not prevented from operating while the approval is pending.

hmmm, the fact their potential contributors could not get proof they were a legitimate organization filed under 501c(4) status didn't have any effects? Seriously?

Do you generally ask for proof of 501c status from organizations that you donate too?


I don't know if it had "any effect", but certainly no one was "silenced".

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So. Obama's campaign organization has taken its assets, personnel and agenda and is now "Organizing for Action", with the tax exempt benefits of a a 501(c)4.

I wonder how long the approval process took for this, and why they weren't grilled about using the Obama political logo and the host of political activities in which they are engaged. [Rhetorical]

This looks to me like the Obama equivalent of a Socialist Party apparatus designed to intimidate and harass The People into compliance and silence.

Organizating for Action


The video was sent out by OFA today and posted on BarackObama.com, which is operated by OFA. But 501(c)4’s aren’t supposed to be about politicians, theoretically, but about issues. Yet there’s not much in the video in the way of substance. How many keywords for the IRS can you come up with? Change? Moving Forward?

Just more anecdotal evidence that the IRS needs to get out of the regulating political speech business altogether. No matter how refined the mandate, the agency is always far more likely to target groups outside the political mainstream and in the opposition than fan clubs of power like OFA.
Tea Party Groups May Be Too Political For IRS Comfort, But Here?s How OFA Defines Itself - Hit & Run : Reason.com

That's different, they aren't crazy people who think the IRS is going to target people because of their political beliefs.

 

[Yurt]

None have been "silenced".

501c4s are not prevented from operating while the approval is pending.

hmmm, the fact their potential contributors could not get proof they were a legitimate organization filed under 501c(4) status didn't have any effects? Seriously?

Do you generally ask for proof of 501c status from organizations that you donate too?


I don't know if it had "any effect", but certainly no one was "silenced".

yes i do and other people do. i've incorporated many 501c3s and they all want their official status immediately in order to get big donors.

stop being a rube.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So you are willing to have Obama and the Tea Party movement clearly evade the law?

No, I want the government to stop trying to regulate the Constitution out of existence.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

hmmm, the fact their potential contributors could not get proof they were a legitimate organization filed under 501c(4) status didn't have any effects? Seriously?

Do you generally ask for proof of 501c status from organizations that you donate too?


I don't know if it had "any effect", but certainly no one was "silenced".

yes i do and other people do. i've incorporated many 501c3s and they all want their official status immediately in order to get big donors.

stop being a rube.

There's a big difference between c3s and c4s. Donations to c3s are tax deductible, so yes - donors would care.

Donations to c4s are not.

But you knew that already, right?

 

[depotoo]

None have been "silenced".

501c4s are not prevented from operating while the approval is pending.

hmmm, the fact their potential contributors could not get proof they were a legitimate organization filed under 501c(4) status didn't have any effects? Seriously?

Do you generally ask for proof of 501c status from organizations that you donate too?


I don't know if it had "any effect", but certainly no one was "silenced".

It helped silence their ability to operate. If you don't have enough funding coming in to operate to spread your message, you are effectively silenced.

 

[depotoo]

And contributions to some 501c(4)'s are tax deductible.

Donations to Section 501(c)(4) Organizations
Contribu*tions to civic leagues or other section 501(c)(4) organizations generally are not deductible as charitable contributions for federal income tax purposes. They may be deductible as trade or business expenses, if ordinary and necessary in the conduct of the taxpayer’s business. How*ever, see Nondeductible Lobbying and Political Expenditures for more information. Also, the organization may be required to disclose that contributions are not deductible when it solicits contributions.

Donations to volunteer fire companies are deductible as charitable contributions on the donor’s federal income tax return, but only if made for exclusively public purposes. Similarly, contributions to certain war veterans organizations are deductible. If the contributions are deductible as charitable contributions, substantiation and disclosure requirements may apply.

 

[Yurt]

Do you generally ask for proof of 501c status from organizations that you donate too?


I don't know if it had "any effect", but certainly no one was "silenced".

yes i do and other people do. i've incorporated many 501c3s and they all want their official status immediately in order to get big donors.

stop being a rube.

There's a big difference between c3s and c4s. Donations to c3s are tax deductible, so yes - donors would care.

Donations to c4s are not.

But you knew that already, right?

you're wrong

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/eotopice85.pdf

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Do you generally ask for proof of 501c status from organizations that you donate too?


I don't know if it had "any effect", but certainly no one was "silenced".

yes i do and other people do. i've incorporated many 501c3s and they all want their official status immediately in order to get big donors.

stop being a rube.

There's a big difference between c3s and c4s. Donations to c3s are tax deductible, so yes - donors would care.

Donations to c4s are not.

But you knew that already, right?

Why do you keep whinging about them not disclosing donors if the donations are not deductible?

 

[JakeStarkey]

If you think the only way one "earns" one's way is to be covered by the VA, then you continue to prove your complete and utter ignorance of what America really means.

Of course not, you fool, but you were bad mouthing me so I made you step off. (In response to an earlier stupidity of "His consolation prize is a new ObamaPhone and a bill for $20,000 for his first year ObamaCare coverage."

Tuff dat. Boedicca, you are so fail here today.