Occupy Wall Street: The Movement Grows

[Preius]

Preius::



Sorry I'm not impressed.. What do you want? A big ass thank-you for the grandstanding "patriotism"? How about they all wear Red,White, and Blue armbands so that we can bow at their feet?

First off -- Very few of America's Millionaires are Wall Street. The vast majority of the 100s of THOUSANDS of Millionaires in America are Entertainers, Sports Figures, Authors, Inventors, or are HARD-WORKING business people. Those making a living STRICTLY as corporate execs or financial figures is a miniscule portion of the 1%.

By villifying the Capitalist System and focusing the scapegoating on Wall Street -- the left has done the neccessary propagandizing to focus outrage on the MINORITY of "the rich" in order to plunder them all. There is no justification for plundering Hollywood --- or is there???

When the cast of Two and a Half Men have 4 stars that pull down over $200,000 per episode while the starving walk-ons mixing Jamba Juices in their real jobs make $200 per episode -- there's no outrage is there?

When the uniform management crew of the Baltimore Ravens make $25,000 and the quarterback makes $25Mill -- there's no outrage is there? YET the MAJORITY of Millionaires in this country are protected from the mobs for THEIR skyrocketing wages and benefits. How damn convienient.

You're fooling yourselves if you think that punishing Jay Leno, Phil Mickelson and Justin Bieber is akin to "patriotism". And your "Flea Party" is nothing other than a bunch of misinformed scavengers picking apart what's left of the carcass of an economy that NO ONE wants to fix..

I think I'll start a "Patriotic Have-Nots" Those 49% of American filers who currently pay NOTHING to the General Fund. THey are all gonna pledge 1% of their WAGES to patriotic subsidization of BIGGER more arrogant, more incompetent Government. Now THAT would deserve a standing ovation for MEANINGFUL sacrifice... Wouldn't it?

First, I am sorry I missed your post. I always go back to my previous posts looking for needed responses from me. Apparently, I missed this one. This is one fast thread!

name calling..

Next time you want to name-call, just put it in the upper left hand corner in large size bold red letters in your post. I barely scan that stuff anyway, which may be why I missed your post. This will save you time, and I will get the message about your attitude toward me or the subject.

I am not writing off millionaires as a group. How can you not like people like David Letterman, Bill Maher, Meryl Streep, or Shirley MacLaine to name a few. Actually, here in Southern California, Shirley MacLaine is better known for her activism in politics, successful business ventures, and as a published author. Her extraordinary career in entertainment, and as the only female member of Frank Sinatra's former 'rat pack.' seem to be more a part of her past.

That's all ya got? Where is the Name-Calling? U must mean the "Flea Party" reference. That allows you to excuse your elitist ass from debate? You're a chicken-shit looter.. Now THERE'S the name-calling you wanted. Can't debate. Can't contribute. All you can do is parrot propaganda and call for revolution..

Yep, that is all I got because that is all it WORTH. Just put the words "name-calling" in the upper left hand corner of your post, don't waste your time on details, I don't read them any way. But, at least I will know you did name call, and all will understand your attitude.

I am no millionaire, but I guess I will be when my old man dies. I doubt there will be any kind of transformation. Our family has been a non-profit corporation for over 50 years. I'll just be CEO. When someone in the family needs a house, car, or other major purchase, the corporation buys it for them, and they pay some small amount each month. Beauty is if a family member gets sued or has a divorce, they have no assets!

So, you say I am a "chicken shit looter," because I do not think all millionaires are ass holes? Trust me, being an ass hole occurs at all income levels, as you have proven - even at yours. You drop a term like 'chicken shit looter' and take a victory lap like you just pulled off a super one-liner. You look like a......well......we will let viewers decide for themselves.

What is sad is that you do not get the 99%ers. These are your fellow citizens, basically middle class. You just read some Teabagger talking point and posted it. The Teabaggers pushed too hard to get in, and have accomplished nothing. They were the flavor of the 2010 elections, and won on the JOB creation. They got to Washington, and have done EVERYTHING EXCEPT JOBS.

Teabaggers will fade as fast as they grew, and 99%ers will help push them out. Both parties are in trouble, and a lot of us are loving every minute of heat. MAKE THOSE POLITICIANS JUMP - HE, HAW! Perhaps your problem is that you are afraid to think for yourself. What a pity.

 

[Liability]

First, I am sorry I missed your post. I always go back to my previous posts looking for needed responses from me. Apparently, I missed this one. This is one fast thread!

name calling..

Next time you want to name-call, just put it in the upper left hand corner in large size bold red letters in your post. I barely scan that stuff anyway, which may be why I missed your post. This will save you time, and I will get the message about your attitude toward me or the subject.

I am not writing off millionaires as a group. How can you not like people like David Letterman, Bill Maher, Meryl Streep, or Shirley MacLaine to name a few. Actually, here in Southern California, Shirley MacLaine is better known for her activism in politics, successful business ventures, and as a published author. Her extraordinary career in entertainment, and as the only female member of Frank Sinatra's former 'rat pack.' seem to be more a part of her past.

That's all ya got? Where is the Name-Calling? U must mean the "Flea Party" reference. That allows you to excuse your elitist ass from debate? You're a chicken-shit looter.. Now THERE'S the name-calling you wanted. Can't debate. Can't contribute. All you can do is parrot propaganda and call for revolution..

Yep, that is all it is WORTH. Just put the words "name-calling" in the upper left hand corner of your post, don't waste your time on details, I don't read them any way. But, at least I will know you did name call, and all will understand your attitude.

I am a "chicken shit looter," because I do not think all millionaires are ass holes? Trust me, being an ass hole occurs at all income levels. You drop a term like 'chicken shit looter' and take a victory lap like you just pulled off a super one-liner. You look like a......we will let viewers decide for themselves.

What is sad is that you do not get the 99%ers. These are your fellow citizens, basically middle class. You just read some Teabagger talking point and post it. I guess you are afraid to think for yourself. What a pity.

The 99% crew is not us. That's media bullshit.

They are trite, unsophisticated, pathetic, ineffectual losers who really regret not having been an important part of the 1960's protest crowd.

Who else would essentially march around in a circle with cheap signs collectively protesting "greed?" And when pressed for whateverthefuck it is they SEEK, these nitwits cannot grunt out one simple coherent proposition.

This is kind of inevitable when you get professional agitators rousing the rabble which consists of stupid kids like this: communists, Marxists, socialists, "liberals," "progressives," and anarchists as well as a contingent of 9/11 Twoofer assholes.

Is there somewhere buried deep down in their incoherent complaint a kernel of a seed of a hint of a rational complaint? Sure. Probably. But those butt rashes couldn't articulate it if their lives depended on it. And they absolutely cannot craft a meaningful solution for "the" problem.

 

[Preius]

That's all ya got? Where is the Name-Calling? U must mean the "Flea Party" reference. That allows you to excuse your elitist ass from debate? You're a chicken-shit looter.. Now THERE'S the name-calling you wanted. Can't debate. Can't contribute. All you can do is parrot propaganda and call for revolution..

Yep, that is all it is WORTH. Just put the words "name-calling" in the upper left hand corner of your post, don't waste your time on details, I don't read them any way. But, at least I will know you did name call, and all will understand your attitude.

I am a "chicken shit looter," because I do not think all millionaires are ass holes? Trust me, being an ass hole occurs at all income levels. You drop a term like 'chicken shit looter' and take a victory lap like you just pulled off a super one-liner. You look like a......we will let viewers decide for themselves.

What is sad is that you do not get the 99%ers. These are your fellow citizens, basically middle class. You just read some Teabagger talking point and post it. I guess you are afraid to think for yourself. What a pity.

The 99% crew is not us. That's media bullshit.

They are trite, unsophisticated, pathetic, ineffectual losers who really regret not having been an important part of the 1960's protest crowd.

Who else would essentially march around in a circle with cheap signs collectively protesting "greed?" And when pressed for whateverthefuck it is they SEEK, these nitwits cannot grunt out one simple coherent proposition.

This is kind of inevitable when you get professional agitators rousing the rabble which consists of stupid kids like this: communists, Marxists, socialists, "liberals," "progressives," and anarchists as well as a contingent of 9/11 Twoofer assholes.

Is there somewhere buried deep down in their incoherent complaint a kernel of a seed of a hint of a rational complaint? Sure. Probably. But those butt rashes couldn't articulate it if their lives depended on it. And they absolutely cannot craft a meaningful solution for "the" problem.

I don't get it if you think the 99%ers is media bull shit then there is only one way for you to find out what the truth is about these people. Today, I went to lunch in Westwood, home of UCLA, a known Republican oriented university. There were a couple thousand 99%ers out there, predominently, white, and clean. About half were students, perhaps a quarter were senior citizens, and the rest were a mixed group. Will you accept what your own eyes see as proof? Get off your ass, get in your car, and go see for yourself. And, stop posting until you do.

You are just pissed because the era of the Teabagger is ending, and all you have is broken promises. You do know that the Tea Party was a lobbyist ploy set up by former House member Dick Armey, and was never grass roots? I thought not. You don't trust real media with degreed journalists. Let me guess you watch Fox news and trust talking points created for the RNC by Ruppert Murdoch. You are too easy!

 

[SFC Ollie]

Yep, that is all it is WORTH. Just put the words "name-calling" in the upper left hand corner of your post, don't waste your time on details, I don't read them any way. But, at least I will know you did name call, and all will understand your attitude.

I am a "chicken shit looter," because I do not think all millionaires are ass holes? Trust me, being an ass hole occurs at all income levels. You drop a term like 'chicken shit looter' and take a victory lap like you just pulled off a super one-liner. You look like a......we will let viewers decide for themselves.

What is sad is that you do not get the 99%ers. These are your fellow citizens, basically middle class. You just read some Teabagger talking point and post it. I guess you are afraid to think for yourself. What a pity.

The 99% crew is not us. That's media bullshit.

They are trite, unsophisticated, pathetic, ineffectual losers who really regret not having been an important part of the 1960's protest crowd.

Who else would essentially march around in a circle with cheap signs collectively protesting "greed?" And when pressed for whateverthefuck it is they SEEK, these nitwits cannot grunt out one simple coherent proposition.

This is kind of inevitable when you get professional agitators rousing the rabble which consists of stupid kids like this: communists, Marxists, socialists, "liberals," "progressives," and anarchists as well as a contingent of 9/11 Twoofer assholes.

Is there somewhere buried deep down in their incoherent complaint a kernel of a seed of a hint of a rational complaint? Sure. Probably. But those butt rashes couldn't articulate it if their lives depended on it. And they absolutely cannot craft a meaningful solution for "the" problem.

I don't get it if you think the 99%ers is media bull shit then there is only one way for you to find out what the truth is about these people. Today, I went to lunch in Westwood, home of UCLA, a known Republican oriented university. There were a couple thousand 99%ers out there, predominently, white, and clean. About half were students, perhaps a quarter were senior citizens, and the rest were a mixed group. Will you accept what your own eyes see as proof? Get off your ass, get in your car, and go see for yourself. And, stop posting until you do.

You are just pissed because the era of the Teabagger is ending, and all you have is broken promises. You do know that the Tea Party was a lobbyist ploy set up by former House member Dick Armey, and was never grass roots? I thought not. You don't trust real media with degreed journalists. Let me guess you watch Fox news and trust talking points created for the RNC by Ruppert Murdoch. You are too easy!

Excuse me, I did exactly that. I went to see for myself. I posted pictures and everything right here in this thread. Just go back to post 1160 and have a look at the truth about OWS....... It still amazes me that there were more blacks at the Tea Party held at almost the exact same spot 3 years ago.............

 

[Liability]

Yep, that is all it is WORTH. Just put the words "name-calling" in the upper left hand corner of your post, don't waste your time on details, I don't read them any way. But, at least I will know you did name call, and all will understand your attitude.

I am a "chicken shit looter," because I do not think all millionaires are ass holes? Trust me, being an ass hole occurs at all income levels. You drop a term like 'chicken shit looter' and take a victory lap like you just pulled off a super one-liner. You look like a......we will let viewers decide for themselves.

What is sad is that you do not get the 99%ers. These are your fellow citizens, basically middle class. You just read some Teabagger talking point and post it. I guess you are afraid to think for yourself. What a pity.

The 99% crew is not us. That's media bullshit.

They are trite, unsophisticated, pathetic, ineffectual losers who really regret not having been an important part of the 1960's protest crowd.

Who else would essentially march around in a circle with cheap signs collectively protesting "greed?" And when pressed for whateverthefuck it is they SEEK, these nitwits cannot grunt out one simple coherent proposition.

This is kind of inevitable when you get professional agitators rousing the rabble which consists of stupid kids like this: communists, Marxists, socialists, "liberals," "progressives," and anarchists as well as a contingent of 9/11 Twoofer assholes.

Is there somewhere buried deep down in their incoherent complaint a kernel of a seed of a hint of a rational complaint? Sure. Probably. But those butt rashes couldn't articulate it if their lives depended on it. And they absolutely cannot craft a meaningful solution for "the" problem.

I don't get it if you think the 99%ers is media bull shit then there is only one way for you to find out what the truth is about these people. Today, I went to lunch in Westwood, home of UCLA, a known Republican oriented university. There were a couple thousand 99%ers out there, predominently, white, and clean. About half were students, perhaps a quarter were senior citizens, and the rest were a mixed group. Will you accept what your own eyes see as proof? Get off your ass, get in your car, and go see for yourself. And, stop posting until you do.

You are just pissed because the era of the Teabagger is ending, and all you have is broken promises. You do know that the Tea Party was a lobbyist ploy set up by former House member Dick Armey, and was never grass roots? I thought not. You don't trust real media with degreed journalists. Let me guess you watch Fox news and trust talking points created for the RNC by Ruppert Murdoch. You are too easy!

Wrong and wrong. One can, if one is capable of assessing such things with perception, get to know what the truth is in a whole variety of manners. For example, one can look to what it is they espouse. I have. I can read. It really isn't difficult. Give it a try.

They are (in a boiled down nutshell) anit-greed. BRILLIANT!

And?

There is no era of tea baggers. That is a phony name applied by jack offs. The correct term is Tea Party. Try working with facts someday.

The Tea Party "era" is not even close to "over."

It is a movement with roots; and it will far outstrip the mindless crap on parade in city parks with the Soros' OWS nonsense.

What the fuck do they specifically propose to remedy the "wrongs" they identify?

You cannot answer that coherently because THEY have proved to be incapable of answering it. Denial won't help you. You are left sputtering empty words. Like them.

 

[Preius]

Who else would essentially march around in a circle with cheap signs collectively protesting "greed?" And when pressed for whateverthefuck it is they SEEK, these nitwits cannot grunt out one simple coherent proposition.

I wanted to address this particular line of yours separately. In France when there is a political demonstration parents take off work, and pull their kids out of school to attend the demonstration. It is considered a French nationalistic thing to do with your family. Patriotism in action if you will.

In the United States we can not get half our people to the polls to vote in a national election. I talked to a college aged waiter in a restaurant at lunch today as the 99%ers were demonstrating a few blocks away near UCLA. I asked him what he thought of the demonstrations, and HE DID NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE 99%ERS WERE! A smart little college shit working at an upscale restaurant? Student at prestigous UCLA? Give me a break, our education system is worse than we think.

All I can leave you with is your bubble of unreality is going to burst very soon. When you GET IT, you will be out there with the 99%ers. How do I know this? Because it will be one of the next big talking points on Fox!

 

[Preius]

Who else would essentially march around in a circle with cheap signs collectively protesting "greed?" And when pressed for whateverthefuck it is they SEEK, these nitwits cannot grunt out one simple coherent proposition.

I wanted to address this particular line of yours separately. In France when there is a political demonstration parents take off work, and pull their kids out of school to attend the demonstration. It is considered a French nationalistic thing to do with your family. Patriotism in action if you will.

In the United States we can not get half our people to the polls to vote in a national election. I talked to a college aged waiter in a restaurant at lunch today as the 99%ers were demonstrating a few blocks away near UCLA. I asked him what he thought of the demonstrations, and HE DID NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE 99%ERS WERE! A smart little college shit working at an upscale restaurant? Student at prestigious UCLA? Give me a break, our education system is worse than we think!

All I can leave you with is your bubble of unreality is going to burst very soon. When you GET IT, you will be out there with the 99%ers. How do I know this? Because it will be one of the next big talking points on Fox News!

 

[freedombecki]

I went to an Occupy rally today............

I went to see who was there..........

I noticed several of the local leading democrats and a leading Green party member.


There wasn't much of a crowd.

There were some protesting Fracking.

They had a table set up so if you forgot your sign or what you were protesting you could pick one.

They were protesting war........

They were unionized and patriotic.

They like the Tea Party.

Did I mention they were Unionized? (And I wonder what Corporation made those shirts?)

It was projected that there would be at least 300 people there. I don't think they made it.

Anyone notice what you don't see?

I don't see disrespect of public property.

 

[Preius]

I went to an Occupy rally today............

I went to see who was there..........

I noticed several of the local leading democrats and a leading Green party member.


There wasn't much of a crowd.

There were some protesting Fracking.

They had a table set up so if you forgot your sign or what you were protesting you could pick one.

They were protesting war........

They were unionized and patriotic.

They like the Tea Party.

Did I mention they were Unionized? (And I wonder what Corporation made those shirts?)

It was projected that there would be at least 300 people there. I don't think they made it.

Anyone notice what you don't see?

I don't see disrespect of public property.

Very true. Let's hope it lasts, these 99%ers are very pissed. Each city is drawing different crowds. From a political standpoint Washington, New York, Chicago, and L.A. seem to be the cites to watch. Frankly I am surprised an please to see smaller cities getting out any demonstrators. I mean this is not exactly an everyday event in a place like Cinti, Ohio if you know what I mean.

According to last nights news there were demonstrations in 135 cities yesterday including Canada and the UK. This puppy is going global!

All it takes is one maniac to spray the NYSE with bullets, and there will be a national problem. I am sure government has considered this and has contingency plans.

 

[SFC Ollie]

I went to an Occupy rally today............

I went to see who was there..........

I noticed several of the local leading democrats and a leading Green party member.


There wasn't much of a crowd.

There were some protesting Fracking.

They had a table set up so if you forgot your sign or what you were protesting you could pick one.

They were protesting war........

They were unionized and patriotic.

They like the Tea Party.

Did I mention they were Unionized? (And I wonder what Corporation made those shirts?)

It was projected that there would be at least 300 people there. I don't think they made it.

Anyone notice what you don't see?

I don't see disrespect of public property.

I should have hung around until it was over to see if they cleaned up after themselves or not. But I'll tell you it was the first time in a long time I actually saw 3 police cruisers in downtown at the same time that weren't parked at city hall or the police station.

 

[Si modo]

I went to an Occupy rally today............

I went to see who was there..........

I noticed several of the local leading democrats and a leading Green party member.


There wasn't much of a crowd.

There were some protesting Fracking.

They had a table set up so if you forgot your sign or what you were protesting you could pick one.

They were protesting war........

They were unionized and patriotic.

They like the Tea Party.

Did I mention they were Unionized? (And I wonder what Corporation made those shirts?)

It was projected that there would be at least 300 people there. I don't think they made it.

Anyone notice what you don't see?

I don't see disrespect of public property.

Very true. Let's hope it lasts, these 99%ers are very pissed. Each city is drawing different crowds. From a political standpoint Washington, New York, Chicago, and L.A. seem to be the cites to watch. Frankly I am surprised an please to see smaller cities getting out any demonstrators. I mean this is not exactly an everyday event in a place like Cinti, Ohio if you know what I mean.

According to last nights news there were demonstrations in 135 cities yesterday including Canada and the UK. This puppy is going global!

All it takes is one maniac to spray the NYSE with bullets, and there will be a national problem. I am sure government has considered this and has contingency plans.

And AGAIN with your violence!

You really are some sort of piece of shit. When folks get hurt, YOU will have blood on your hands.

And, as you keep going on with the violent rhetoric, I have to assume that is exactly what you want - blood.

Piece of shit.

 

[Katzndogz]

These protesters really think they are 99% of the public! That's surprising. The REAL 99% are working for one of those big corporations. I hope it comes to a head pretty soon. Just to bring an end to libs. OWS is sitting around waiting for its Kent State Moment.

 

[SFC Ollie]

I'm certainly not one of the 99%. You should have seen some of the looks I got while walking around wearing my US Army Retired hat and an Army wind breaker...........

 

[Ropey]

5:00 PM Clare Trapasso

It appears that dozens of protesters are being arrested and loaded into vans on 46th St.

Read more:

Occupy Wall Street: Live Coverage LIVE

***** OFFICIAL Occupy Everywhere BLOG - 2011.10.15 *****

 

[Preius]

I'm certainly not one of the 99%. You should have seen some of the looks I got while walking around wearing my US Army Retired hat and an Army wind breaker...........

I am not sure if I am 99% or not, but I know I am not in the 1%. Frankly, I do not think anyone outside the 1% gets or deserves any sympathy from the rest of us. I am impressed and interested to know more about the Patriotic Millionaires who are supporting the 99%. Patriotic Millionaires Echo Occupy Wall Street (PHOTOS, VIDEOS)

I am known for using the word 'freeloader' a lot. To me a hedge fund manager who makes millions speculating and shuffling papers is as much a freeloader as an illegal alien. While the illegal alien is parasitic to our welfare, education, and health care system, the damage done by a hedge fund manager is more aggressively parasitic. Simply look at the price of gasoline, speculators keep pushing up the price while feathering their own nests at the expense of the public. This is greed, not Capitalism, or free enterprise. The 99%ers are Capitalists. I believe this is very important.

One thing that network news has made very clear is that the 99% is made up of people who are or used to be middle class/professionals.

I ask you Ollie, do you think you got looks from the 99% because they were glad to welcome a Commander of the American Legion to their ranks, and felt encouraged? That would be my guess. People like you were expected to show one day.

The Tea Party has served a purpose in this country. Everyday Americans got off their butts and made a commitment to out nation. The 99% are doing the same thing in their own way, just as veterans stood up for this nation when they were called for military service.

I for one think that since WWII, Americans have not really had to stand up and sacrifice for the survival of our country. Damn, the bastards bombed Hawaii! All the wars since have been for some political reason, often oil. We have not had to fight for our own soil since WWII.

Just as in the French and American Revolutions, people put their lives on the line because they were losing everything or starving. The parallels to today are similar.

The only thing we know for sure about the 99% is they are very ANGRY, (just like the Tea Party). Taxpayers feel Wall Street ripped off Main Street - homes and jobs have been lost. Taxpayers bailed out Wall Street in 2008, and we are hurting as Wall Street lines their pockets with million dollar bonuses. Now, this thing is going global. Canada and the UK Occupied this week. It is way too soon to judge where this will go. The Tea Party never got global. And, a lot of Democrats, including me, are ready to throw Barry Obama under the bus, perhaps for Hillary Clinton. Democrats and Republicans both are tearing their parties apart.

Things have changed, last year at this time wasn't America debating Barry's birth certificate? Now we are in the big game, for all the chips, and everyone must pay a price. The game could be called planetary survival, because experts agree another, larger economic crash is inevitable, and stupidly we are allowing the same players who caused the 2008 financial crash to continue running things.

My STOCK BROKER told me yesterday to dump stocks and cash for precious metals! A damn STOCK BROKER, I can't believe my ears! The price of Gold yesterday was $1,681 an ounce from my new trader, and he says it has been dropping due to the fact that other metals may be more secure. He told me that if he had said this a year ago, his boss would have thought him to be crazy. I bought $15,000 in coins over the phone, and requested information on other metals.

Not one person was put in prison for what happened in 2008, and my president, and my party have done NOTHING to prevent it from happening again.

In the end, the American people and others MUST WIN because we are NOT too big to fail. Democrats and Republicans be damned, this is for America. I will not be surprised to see American Armed Service people, such as yourself, evolve as leaders in the 99% movement. 99% can win where the Tea Party is limited by it's own battle scars, and being domestic only. 99% is a clean slate. And now, I am easing into words that should probably be coming from you or your circle of experts.

We must remember that Egypt survived their revolution because their military handled events wisely, while striving for a civilian democracy.

 

[flacaltenn]

Preius:::

My STOCK BROKER told me yesterday to dump stocks and cash for precious metals!, I can't believe my ears! The price of Gold yesterday was $1,681 an ounce from my new trader, and he says it has been dropping due to the fact that other metals may be more secure. He told me that if he had said this a year ago, his boss would have thought him to be crazy. I bought $15,000 in coins over the phone, and requested information on other metals.

That's really rich... Knocking hedge fund managers in one sentence and bragging about going out and buying gold in another. Being as how your family shelters a MILL or two in corporate cash as a non-profit, but accesses that money "when it's needed for the family" --- Perhaps what's required for you is some professional couch time.. Especially with that propensity for violence that you've displayed here multiple times in one thread..

I'm not a shrink -- but I'm just saying.... Do you even know why hedge funds exist? You should if your Daddy is gonna give you all that loot..

 

[Preius]

Preius:::

My STOCK BROKER told me yesterday to dump stocks and cash for precious metals!, I can't believe my ears! The price of Gold yesterday was $1,681 an ounce from my new trader, and he says it has been dropping due to the fact that other metals may be more secure. He told me that if he had said this a year ago, his boss would have thought him to be crazy. I bought $15,000 in coins over the phone, and requested information on other metals.

That's really rich... Knocking hedge fund managers in one sentence and bragging about going out and buying gold in another. Being as how your family shelters a MILL or two in corporate cash as a non-profit, but accesses that money "when it's needed for the family" --- Perhaps what's required for you is some professional couch time.. Especially with that propensity for violence that you've displayed here multiple times in one thread..

I'm not a shrink -- but I'm just saying.... Do you even know why hedge funds exist? You should if your Daddy is gonna give you all that loot..

Your comments are a fair criticism. I believe Hedge fund managers are thieves - making money while raping the country with pieces of paper. Your ethics do not have to agree with mine, but you had damn well have a moral compas, or you will not be around me.

I view it this way. I have a barber cut my hair. I have a doctor advise me on health. I have a tax professional to keep the IRS away, and to insure I get fairness under the tax code. When I invest it is not to make money, it is to secure what we have from loss. My stocks run from power companies to John Deere to Kroger (safe bets). No gasoline companies or banks for my own moral/political reasons. Our family financial structure, (I honestly did not think anyone would read me that closely, thank you), existed before I was born. As the first born in a German family, tradition dictates that I am responsible to handle family finances. The family financial set up is not that unusual. I have an uncle who is really good at this stuff, and I lean on him fequently. I really do little. If someone needs a house, I distribute the information, and count the votes. Some have been told to buy a cheaper houses.

I went through a period where I too thought it was pretty strange to be social liberal and a fiscally moderate Democrat. I was the first Democrat in five generations on that side of the family, now there are four of us .

I see it like this everyone needs a safety net from time to time - food stamps, unemployment comp, medical whatever. I believe in TEMPORARY safety nets for all United States CITIZENS. That is my personal political philosophy. I also live in the real world, my wife comes first, then family. Hurt my family - it's an eye for an eye. That is good business, and I think most believe it.

I have only become a proponent of violence in the last year as I read American history from the American Revolution to 1929. We are one of the most violent nations on earth. I think it is important that we accept that, not bury it. Face it our foreign policy depends on it. From prime time television to video games we serve violence to our youth in massive doses, and we always have a war to offer them as adults.

Republican Theodore Roosevelt said it very well, "Talk softly and carry a big stick." Folks we have the biggest stick on the playground, and there are a lot of people who want to tear us down. The great Democrat Barry Obama bragging for days that we KILLED Bin Laudin. I agree and say it with pride.

Our family sends everyone to college. It is not a choice, and I must tell you I was barely a "C" student in high school. But, I graduated college and got an advanced degree. This is why families like ours and hopefully yours live comfortably and perpetuate our line.

In my wildest Utopian dreams, YES, I would like to see the minimum wage locked in at $50,000 a year, and send everyone to four years of college, but one has to live in the real world here. We hope over time we are making progress. I would like to see a level playing people for all U. S. CITIZENS entering in the job market.

Remember 100 years ago women could not vote in this country, and an African American could not drink a soda at Woolworths in the south. Our first air craft flew in 1903, and only 66 years later we put a man on the moon! We have made much progress in may fields, and I hope I am contributing to it in my field. As we used to say in the BSA, "I hope I can leave the campsite in better shape than when I found it."

 

[flacaltenn]

Preius:::

My STOCK BROKER told me yesterday to dump stocks and cash for precious metals!, I can't believe my ears! The price of Gold yesterday was $1,681 an ounce from my new trader, and he says it has been dropping due to the fact that other metals may be more secure. He told me that if he had said this a year ago, his boss would have thought him to be crazy. I bought $15,000 in coins over the phone, and requested information on other metals.

That's really rich... Knocking hedge fund managers in one sentence and bragging about going out and buying gold in another. Being as how your family shelters a MILL or two in corporate cash as a non-profit, but accesses that money "when it's needed for the family" --- Perhaps what's required for you is some professional couch time.. Especially with that propensity for violence that you've displayed here multiple times in one thread..

I'm not a shrink -- but I'm just saying.... Do you even know why hedge funds exist? You should if your Daddy is gonna give you all that loot..

Your comments are a fair criticism. I believe Hedge fund managers are thieves - making money while raping the country with pieces of paper. Your ethics do not have to agree with mine, but you had damn well have a moral compas, or you will not be around me.

I view it this way. I have a barber cut my hair. I have a doctor advise me on health. I have a tax professional to keep the IRS away, and to insure I get fairness under the tax code. When I invest it is not to make money, it is to secure what we have from loss. My stocks run from power companies to John Deere to Kroger (safe bets). No gasoline companies or banks for my own moral/political reasons. Our family financial structure, (I honestly did not think anyone would read me that closely, thank you), existed before I was born. As the first born in a German family, tradition dictates that I am responsible to handle family finances. The family financial set up is not that unusual. I have an uncle who is really good at this stuff, and I lean on him fequently. I really do little. If someone needs a house, I distribute the information, and count the votes. Some have been told to buy a cheaper houses..

I appreciate all this sharing. But you must realize that your situation (and this is NOT a pun) is quite FOREIGN to most of us. ESPECIALLY the concept of being responsible to handle the family finances due SOLELY to the privilege of "being first born". I make no judgement on any of that. But I do find it odd that one who identifies SO INTENSELY with anti-Capitalist memes would feel comfortable being a prime example of "unearned wealth". So if I were to have to any advice and counsel it WOULD be try a psychiatrist couch and/or stop depending on the Uncle for guidance and EARN that responsibility. No evil intended there at all..

I myself have WAS a liberal Democrat until I found out that there was nothing Liberal in the classic sense about that party or philosophy. I am now COMMITTED to fairness in 3rd party access to the ballot and a member of the Libertarian Party (nominally). But I've worked with the Greens as well in acheiving that goal of breaking monopoly control of a corrupt 2 party system. You're not dealing with a party animal here.

But to the more important point. Hedge Funds are NOT corrupt. They are not EVIL. THey are smart finance. It is the practice of balancing a portfolio against risk. Something you look into as you take on the family mantle. Hedge Fund mgrs generally don't hedge for themselves. They do it for others as a service. If they save someone or a corp. $1Bill during a market hiccup -- perhaps they deserve a couple $1MILL tip. You can't have a hedge fund -- if you have nothing to hedge to begin with. In practice, your airline fees are protected by Hedge Funds. Because when fuel prices go up -- the airlines have hedged by INVESTING in FUEL either as a commodity or in the companies that supply that commodity thus reducing the amount of loss they have to pass on to customers. These managers are targeted because they are the nerdly wonks who understand the numbers required to perform this "voodoo magic" on paper. And only leftists that are too stupid to understand the amazing amount of math, reasoning and experience it takes to do that -- would claim they are nothing but parasites..

 

[Synthaholic]

Anyone notice what you don't see?

Intelligence in your posts?

 

[frazzledgear]

The greedy one percent that bankrupted the nation, morally and fiscally, is now facing its greatest fear: a public uprising against their accumulation of wealth and power, and with that, the best chance at change in the post-War era.

It started in New York City, as hundreds of activists literally occupied Wall Street, setting up a tent city in a nearby park and organizing daily protests. For two weeks, the movement squeaked by on minimal coverage. The national media ignored the protests, even as the protesters dug in and redoubled their efforts.

Source: Occupy Wall Street: The Movement Grows | Benzinga

The "greedy one percent" bankrupted this nation? REALLY? Every single one of them did this? Going to insist they all be tried as traitors? Every last one of them? Do you even KNOW who they all are and what their occupations are or are you assuming they all have the same kinds of jobs. And exactly HOW did THEY bring this about when in reality the true instigator was our own government? How did THEY manage to FORCE government to do all this -from forcing banks to make BILLIONS in loans to people they knew could not pay it back to going on an out of control spending spree using money the next five generations will never have? How did they DO that? Maybe you didn't notice but the NATION isn't bankrupt at all. Our GOVERNMENT ran out of money because they CHOSE to quadruple the rate of spending after their PHONY complaining about the rate of spending under Bush. Oh yeah, THAT rate of spending was "outrageous" so of course it only makes sense to quadruple it on an totally out of control massive Democrat wet dream spending spree, right? You want to know the REAL players behind ALL of the financial crisis from housing to banking to the government budget "crisis"? Chris Dodd and Barney Frank are not only major actors in what REALLY happened -they belong in PRISON for it! You might want to try and find an unbiased source to REALLY understand exactly what happened and exactly WHO initiated it, how many years back it REALLY started, by WHOM -and WHY! When the REAL history is finally written on this, the finger of blame for the origin of the entire thing will be pointed directly at our own government and very specific individuals in it!

You sound like SUCH the typical leftwing demagogue and truly mindless parrot. You say "greedy one percent" because you were told they were the new enemy. And no other reason whatsoever.

One thing I truly DESPISE about the left is they CONSTANTLY insist the real enemies of this nation are fellow Americans. In the course of just TWO years Democrats and liberals have deemed just about EVERYONE but themselves as the enemies of this country. As if it belongs to them alone. And now the newest on the hit list is that "evil" top 1% because hey, who doesn't envy the rich for being successful. Oh wait -its only the LEFT that wastes their life and time envying others for doing what you didn't do. So eaten alive with it they must be blamed for what the LEFT actually did when they got control of both Congress and the White House. Got to divert attention from the REAL crooks here, pick yet another minority the left believes is largely unsympathetic and declare THEM to be the "real" enemy. Along with the other MILLIONS of people they have previously declared to be the enemy too! Oh except George Soros, right? That billionaire socialist is fine and dandy so no demonstrating at HIS house -even though he is a convicted FELON and belongs in prison right now -for INSIDER TRADING! But hey, the reason the flea baggers aren't showing HIS head on a spike is because for the HYPOCRITE left, Soros' POLITICS magically cleansed all that filthy money for morons like you, right? Including all that money he earned illegally through insider trading. No crime too great for a billionaire SOCIALIST, right? Because Soros is actually what you CLAIM the others to be -a fucking crook!

I have bad news for you -the "greedy one percent" did no such thing. Our GOVERNMENT did it, primarily DEMOCRATS with the assistance of some Republicans. And as usual they needed to try and hide their fingerprints and find an easy scapegoat -one that morons like you wouldn't stop to question. It is what these people ALWAYS do -pick some minority they believe others will have little sympathy for and claim THEY are to blame for what they actually did and say THEY ARE THE ENEMY. Have you really never noticed how often they find one "enemy" after another in this country or the fact about the only people they haven't declared to be an enemy are just THEM? As if they aren't Americans with the same rights as you and as if this isn't their country too. Because to people like you they really aren't quite human are they? Its why liberal thugs feel free to harass and stalk them, hold up pictures of private citizens with their heads on spikes and terrorize their children. Because people like you NEED to pretend the reason you are such a loser at life is the fault of those who made other decisions. What good do you REALLY think will come of it? SERIOUSLY.

Before you go off the deep end and allow your irrational hate lead you to outright insanity -wise up already and get a REAL LIFE. That one percent pays 38% of all federal income taxes all by themselves. While nearly HALF of all income earners pay ZERO. Clearly you don't want them to even EARN it, much less foot the bulk of the bills to keep our government afloat. So who do you expect to tap for that lost money after eliminating them? That 1% employs 1.3 MILLION people! How many do YOU employ moron? You ready to throw over another million MORE people out of work in the name of your STUPID, POINTLESS class warfare your handlers instructed you to start babbling about? Do you like your propaganda pre-chewed for easier digestion or what?

People like you do nothing but waste time and lives wallowing in pointless envy. If they were paying 50% of all income taxes by themselves -you'd still claim they were the enemy of this country and still not paying their "fair share" because that is what useless morons like you do. In reality you and your ILK have rejected American values and want to inflict a KNOWN HISTORICAL FAILURE of a system on us all instead, insisting surely it will work if given just one more chance. Take it somewhere else.

Get it through your STUPID, WASTED, POINTLESSLY ENVIOUS head -you didn't bust your ass to earn it. That 1% work an average of a 70 hour work week. It was NOT stolen from me or you. It doesn't belong to me, you or government. And you know it. But the REAL problem here is YOUR greed and the greed of people like you -who want what the top 1% have but without putting in the work to get it.

Its YOUR greed and the greed of people like YOU that is really driving the STINKING, SMELLY FLEA BAGGER MOBS. It always is for the left -their GREED and THEIR never ending demand that government essentially wage war on the most successful in this country and confiscate the fruits of THEIR labor and hand it over to people who didn't do the work. Its GREED behind all this alright -YOURS and that of people just like you.