Offical Impeachment Thread

[beagle9]

Still no evidence to support any wrong doing by the Biden's.

Because there hasn't been an investigation.
Duh.

Yet The Donald has claimed that a Billion Dollars have been awarded to Hunter Biden. If Trump made the claim, it must be an investigation was completed. The Donald wouldn't lie, would he?

So Hunter Biden is a billionaire?

If he is, then it shows just how corrupt our politicians are. How can we trust anyone anymore. Washington DC is a cesspool of corruption at taxpayers expense. How could we have been so foolish ? Slowly they used their positions of power granted them to actually abuse us with it. They slowly began breaking down local power in order to control everything from a central point. It's something that's been going on in corporations for years now, and they have been teaching others just how to do it.

We need to break these chains before they destroy us completely.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Chief Justice John Roberts will preside over Trump's Senate impeachment trial. What is interesting is that two of them got into it in 2018. Of course, the nasty interchange was caused by Trump's stupidity. Challenging the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is never a good idea, but common sense has never deterred Trump.

The exchange started when Trump called a judge who had ruled against him “an Obama judge.” In response, the chief justice said the President had misunderstood the role of the federal courts in the constitutional system.

“We do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges,” Chief Justice Roberts said in a statement. “What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them. That independent judiciary is something we should all be thankful for.”

Trump took issue with the chief justice’s statement on Twitter. “Sorry Chief Justice John Roberts, but you do indeed have and they have a much different point of view than the people who are charged with the safety of our country.”

Because of his chronic stupidity, Trump caused friction between the two and now Roberts will preside over his trial.

Trump's worst enemy is not Nancy Pelosi. Trump's worst enemy is Trump.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Even as the Senate prepares for Trump’s trial following his impeachment by the House, the evidence against the President continues to pile up.

Just Security reported Thursday that Michael Duffey, a political appointee who oversees defense spending at the White House Office of Management and Budget, told the Pentagon Comptroller in an August 30 email that he had “clear direction from POTUS to continue to hold” vital military aid that was supposed to be sent to Ukraine. That statement was one of a number of redacted lines in 300 pages of emails the administration released last month to the Center for Public Integrity after a court order in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit.

This is direct evidence that Trump ordered the hold on the military aid to Ukraine, and Duffey is one the witnesses Schumer wants called in the Senate trial. The others are Mulvaney (director of the OMB), John Bolton (Trump's fired NSA), and Perry (Trump's ex SecTreas.).

Note: A lot of people involved in all this are "ex's." Bill Taylor, the ambassador to Ukraine, joins the ever-growing crowd.

 

[beagle9]

Chief Justice John Roberts will preside over Trump's Senate impeachment trial. What is interesting is that two of them got into it in 2018. Of course, the nasty interchange was caused by Trump's stupidity. Challenging the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is never a good idea, but common sense has never deterred Trump.

The exchange started when Trump called a judge who had ruled against him “an Obama judge.” In response, the chief justice said the President had misunderstood the role of the federal courts in the constitutional system.

“We do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges,” Chief Justice Roberts said in a statement. “What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them. That independent judiciary is something we should all be thankful for.”

Trump took issue with the chief justice’s statement on Twitter. “Sorry Chief Justice John Roberts, but you do indeed have and they have a much different point of view than the people who are charged with the safety of our country.”

Because of his chronic stupidity, Trump caused friction between the two and now Roberts will preside over his trial.

Trump's worst enemy is not Nancy Pelosi. Trump's worst enemy is Trump.

You can talk it up all you want, but judges rulings help us to understand their activism and character from the bench. We need to see many more recalls and disbarments of judges that abuse their bench for political and biased purposes. It's out of control.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Because of his chronic stupidity, Trump caused friction between the two and now Roberts will preside over his trial.

Fortunately, unlike you, Roberts isn't a hyper-partisan bigot.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

The question has been asked several times. What did Pelosi gain by withholding the two Articles of Impeachment. I will try to answer that, but please note Congress was in recess for most of that period, and they returned to work one week ago. That fact is often overlooked by McConnell and the rest.

A new report from the website Just Security details documents relating to Trump’s campaign to pressure Ukraine to investigate the Bidens as his administration froze nearly $400 million in military aid to Ukraine. The new report stems from unredacted versions of documents seen by Just Security, a national security website affiliated with the New York University School of Law.

The documents reveal that on Aug. 30, after meeting with Trump, Michael Duffey, associate director of national security programs at the Office of Management and Budget, told Elaine McCusker, the acting Pentagon comptroller, in an email that there was "Clear direction from POTUS to hold" the aid. Duffy's boss is Mick Mulvaney. Minority leader Chuck Schumer wants both called as witnesses. The emails showcase the growing tensions between the White House and the Department of Defense over the hold on the Ukraine funds amid concerns that the aid would not be released before the end of the fiscal year, after which the appropriation would expire.

For more, see, https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...ly-unredacted-emails-show-why-senate-n1109641

Former national security adviser John Bolton surprised everyone by offering to testify at Trump’s impeachment trial — after refusing the House’s request to appear late last year.

Recently, a federal judge authorized Lev Parnas, the indicted associate of Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, to share documents and contents of a seized iPhone with House investigators.

Trump's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, will not be defending Trump in the Senate trial. That says a lot.

Senior White House officials tell CBS News they increasingly believe that at least four Republicans, and likely more, will vote to call witnesses. In addition to Senators Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Susan Collins of Maine, Mitt Romney of Utah and possibly Cory Gardner of Colorado, the White House also views Rand Paul of Kentucky as a "wild card" and Senator Lamar Alexander of Tennessee as an "institutionalist" who might vote to call witnesses, as one official put it.

A lot has transpired since the House passed the two Articles of Impeachment.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The question has been asked several times. What did Pelosi gain by withholding the two Articles of Impeachment

Nothing, except to make sure 3 Dem senators - all of whom should recuse themselves from the trial as an obvious conflict in interest - were able to make yesterday's "debate".

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Republican Senators are avoiding this direct evidence. I don't blame them one bit. As seen by this direct evidence they are trying to defend a guilty President.

When McConnell speaks, he wants Americans to forget that Trump incriminated himself ... twice. He doesn't want Americans to know ...

Trump incriminated himself and there is an abundance of direct evidence. This is a quote directly from the July 25 phone call, and it comes soon after Trump said, “I would like you to do us a favor, though.” The statement comes right after Zelensky expressed interest in buying Javelin missiles. This is what Trump said.

Good because I· heard you had a prosecutor who· was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor bf New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General.· :Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States,· the woman., was bad news and the people she was dealing with in.the Ukraine.were bad news so I jtist want to_let you know that. The other thing, there's a lot of.talk about Biden's son,. that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great.Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you ·can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me.

During the impeachment inquiry, Trump's chief of staff admitted to quid pro quo.

“What you’re describing is a quid pro quo,” asserted the reporter. “We do that all the time,” replied Mulvaney. “Did he also mention to me the corruption related to the DNC server? Absolutely. No question about it. But that’s it. That’s why we held up the money … I have news for everybody: Get over it. There’s going to be political influence in foreign policy.” ‘We Do That All the Time, Get Over It.’ Mulvaney Boasts About Ukraine Plot

After the July 25 phone call with Zelensky, as he usually does, Trump doubled down by asking again for foreign intervention in our elections. On Oct. 3, in a news conference on the White House lawn, he called on Ukraine and China to look into his chief rival's affairs, Joe Biden.

“If they were honest about it, they would start a major investigation into the Bidens,” Trump said when asked what he wanted Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky to do about the former veep and his son.

“They should investigate the Bidens,” Trump said. “Likewise, China should start an investigation into the Bidens, because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with Ukraine.”

Trump says China should investigate the Bidens, doubles down on Ukraine probe

 

[Sandy Shanks]

I really get charge out of listening to Trace Gallagher on Fox News. He is the most biased news host on television.

This week he interviewed current and former Republican lawmakers who are in agreement that Trump committed no impeachable offense. They do not deal with any of the evidence, and they do not deal with consequences of their position. They just say Trump did nothing wrong. Of course, Trace doesn't question them on this because they said exactly what Trace and his biased producer wanted them to say.

I would dearly love to ask just one question of these current and former Republican lawmakers.

"I understand then, Senator, that you feel it is perfectly okay for our President to invite foreign interference in our elections for his personal benefit and use bribery on a foreign leader as incentive. Do I have that right? Essentially, that is what you said."

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Despite Senate Majority Leader's wish the Senate trial keep as low profile as possible, Trump wants to turn the trial into a daytime melodrama with him as the star, of course.

The Post reports, "With his Senate trial to begin in earnest next week, President Trump has added some high-profile lawyers to his legal team, including Harvard emeritus law professor Alan Dershowitz and former independent counsel Kenneth W. Starr."

Starr is a serious mistake, unless Trump is lying again. With him, you never know. If Starr is one his lawyers, it will become known that before Clinton was impeached, Starr conducted a three year investigation as the special prosecutor with all the witnesses he needed from the White House.

We no longer have the special prosecutor. The impeachment inquiry was conducted by the House with all the due process Trump wanted -- he chose not to defend himself and blocked witness testimony from the White House -- and the inquiry was much shorter.

Unless Trump wants to incriminate himself again, Starr will not be one of his lawyers. That announcement was strictly for show, in other words, pure Trumpism.

I have a feeling Mitch will make sure that happens. After all,he runs the Senate, not Trump, and even Trump must follow Senate rules

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Harvard emeritus law professor Alan Dershowitz

Dershowitz is a loser. He defended O.J. and we know what happened to him. He destroyed his affluent life and spent years in prison. Dershowitz also defended the sexual pervert, Jeffrey Epstein, who was in prison when he committed suicide or was murdered. Like I said, a loser.

This guy has defended Trump for three years, which leads me to believe he is a conservative.

Or not, apparently he thought Trump was so bad as a candidate, that Dershowitz voted for Hillary in 2016.

Now he is going to be defending Trump, another loser, a dumbass, paranoid President who got himself impeached.

 

[Faun]

Trump isn't going to be impeached.

LOLOLOLOL

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Trump isn't going to be impeached.

LOLOLOLOL

What he is predicting is Rump won't be impeached again. But with a loss in November and his penchant for revenge, there is a very good chance he will not only be impeached but removed from office. I honestly don't think Rump can help himself.

 

[Jitss617]

Trump isn't going to be impeached.

LOLOLOLOL

Do you not know what impeached means? Lol poor guy

 

[konradv]

Trump isn't going to be impeached.

LOLOLOLOL

Do you not know what impeached means? Lol poor guy

A step above 'perp-walk'?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Trump isn't going to be impeached.

LOLOLOLOL

Do you not know what impeached means? Lol poor guy

A step above 'perp-walk'?

Seems only Democrats celebrate failure.

 

[Papageorgio]

Trump isn't going to be impeached.

LOLOLOLOL

Do you not know what impeached means? Lol poor guy

A step above 'perp-walk'?

Seems only Democrats celebrate failure.

If they didn’t celebrate failure, they wouldn’t be able to celebrate anything at all.

 

[eddiew]

Still no evidence to support any wrong doing by the Biden's.

Because there hasn't been an investigation.
Duh.

Yet The Donald has claimed that a Billion Dollars have been awarded to Hunter Biden. If Trump made the claim, it must be an investigation was completed.

An impressive non-seq you have there.
You should be proud.

Once again you've proved to be a Damn Liar. Leaving out the last sentence in your post, a lie by omission is a clear example of why you are a dishonest Jerk.

The last sentence was this: "The Donald wouldn't lie, would he?"

Not only would he lie ,he does so almost every time he opens his yap He's a world class liar and a friend of the murderer Putin

 

[Blaine Sweeter]

Trump isn't going to be impeached.

LOLOLOLOL

Do you not know what impeached means? Lol poor guy

A step above 'perp-walk'?

Seems only Democrats celebrate failure.

If they didn’t celebrate failure, they wouldn’t be able to celebrate anything at all.

Seems Republicans don't want to face it.

 

[Blaine Sweeter]

Trump isn't going to be impeached.

LOLOLOLOL

Do you not know what impeached means? Lol poor guy

Yes, it means that the House recognized Trump's high crimes and many misdemeanors and impeached him, but the dickless, empty-sacked Republicans in the Senate who suck Trump off and swallow daily, voted to acquit because too many of them are running for re-election this year.