Official Coronavirus Thread - Up to the minute Coronavirus map and count.

[Sun Devil 92]

Here's Italy. Would be nice if our number of cases would decrease like that.

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We opened back up too early.

As terrible as the situation got in Italy, they did the right thing and are now winning the battle against the virus.

Here in the United States, we finally started to see a decrease in cases and late April and early May and then essentially stopped the lockdown, just as we were starting to see some progress. Now 100,000 more Americans will die by October because of the policies of Trumpers and those that think like them.

Horseshit

 

[percysunshine]

Hawaii has a good plan.

No more tourists...ever.

That's what you do until there is a vaccine to stop it. Only an idiot would allow uncontrolled spread of a pandemic among their population.

Depends. If building a fortress leads to more deaths...well...we will find out.

That's easy to answer.

United States deaths from coronavirus: 118,535

New Zealand deaths from coronavirus: 22

Taiwan deaths from coronavirus: 7

Those numbers above tell you everything you need to know.


Last death in New Zealand from coronavirus was on May 28, 2020
Last death in Taiwan from coronavirus was on May 11, 2020
Last death in the United States was yesterday June 15, 2020 with a total of 425 people dying. We'll know at the end of the day today, June 16, 2020 what the death toll was for Americans on this day.

The difference about what works and what does not could not be more clear given the above data.

Time will tell. Starvation, assaults, and suicides have not been included.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

California is lighting off.

2,300 cases today.

Another blue state.......

A Blue State with plenty of Trumpers and those that think like Trumpers when it comes to the dangers of covid-19 and what should be done about it.

Fuck off.

Sorry, but that's reality. Lockdowns, isolation and restrictions work. Individuals and governments that do the opposite sufferer the results.

No, they don't.

We killed a great many elderly because we focused on all the wrong things.

You are living a bullshit fairy tale and can't seem to get out of it.

The Mountain West never really locked down except for the most high risk activities.

Not only do I live there, I am in contact with many others who are. Never locked down. End of discussion. ABC did a special on southern Utah...almost no impact.

Now, we are into the higher risk activities and we are seeing issues. That was expected (by me) and why I still don't go out to dinner.

But the lockdowns as they were run were totally pathetic wastes.

New York and the rest of the N.E. killed the majority of people in this country. And they were supposedly locked down the hardest.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Aaaand we have 2,400 new cases in Arizona.

Those are probably record numbers for both Florida and Arizona. Good job, guys.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Yup, it's a record in Arizona.

Arizona logs record number of COVID-19 cases Tuesday

State health officials reported 2,392 new cases Tuesday morning. Confirmed cases went up to 39,097.

kvoa.com

 

[XponentialChaos]

Arizona cases have doubled in the last two weeks.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Top 3 in new cases today:

Florida
Arizona
Texas

Both Florida and Arizona set new highs.

Maybe someone should let those idiots know that the virus is spreading there.

Florida sees highest number of new coronavirus cases yet: 2,783 in one day

In the last seven days, there have been 14,109 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Florida.

www.wtsp.com

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

What Spike? Hospitalization Data Show No Indication of a Second Wave

The Daily Fodder is a news website focused on news, nothing more.

www.thedailyfodder.com

 

[Gracie]

Just saw a vid on twitter. Brazilian guys stormed a hospital there that claims 5000 patients with covid. When they got in....it was empty. Not one patient. I'll try to find vid and post it here.

 

[Gracie]

 

[XponentialChaos]

Just saw a vid on twitter. Brazilian guys stormed a hospital there that claims 5000 patients with covid. When they got in....it was empty. Not one patient. I'll try to find vid and post it here.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

What Spike? Hospitalization Data Show No Indication of a Second Wave

The Daily Fodder is a news website focused on news, nothing more.

www.thedailyfodder.com

Yes, I posted this on the berg80 shit thread over in politics.

Over her head.

 

[U2Edge]

Everyone is going to get it.

Do you want it now, or do you want it later?

Tell that to people in New Zealand and Taiwan.

New Zealand has a population of 5 million people and only had 1,600 cases and 22 deaths. They have now eliminated the virus from all citizens in the country. The only active cases are two British citizens that were allowed to travel to see a dying parent in New Zealand.

Taiwan has a population of 25 million and has only had 443 cases and 7 deaths. Taiwan has only 5 active cases remaining.

These two countries have essentially eliminated the virus with well over 99% of the population of each country never getting infected.

Everyone is going to get it? Taiwan and New Zealand prove that's not the case and if Trump had done what Taiwan and New Zealand did early on, the United States would be in the same position today as those countries. Its just one more failure of the Trump Administration, the worst Presidential Administration in U.S. history.

Their choice. They are islands with some control over visitors. Fortress NZ ...no more tourists...ever.

Most people from other countries travel to the United States the SAME WAY THEY TRAVEL TO TAIWAN AND NEW ZEALAND. Its called AIR TRAVEL. The North American and South American continents are JUST as much and Island as New Zealand and Taiwan when it comes to the travel of the Virus from its original source in Wuhan China.

The United States can control who visits the country just as much as Taiwan and New Zealand. Most people arrive by air travel at and airport. Flights can be blocked cancelled or passengers moved to quarantine when they get off the plane.


New Zealand and Taiwan still accept visitors under certain conditions. The first big condition is that they must be isolated, quarantined, and tested, for 14 days before being allowed to travel in freely in New Zealand.

So what is your opinion on illegal immigrants crossing the US border with Mexico?

During the pandemic, it should be contained. Without the pandemic, its actually an economic benefit to the United States.

How do we know there is going to be a pandemic?

We don’t. There is a logic behind legal immigration which includes health status.

FALSE. The information for a risk for a pandemic was there in early to mid January. Taiwan intelligence detected the problem and the government started a full lockdown of the country on January 20, 2020 BEFORE there was even one confirmed case of the virus in Taiwan. Trump should have done the same thing with the United States within 24 hours of Taiwan's actions back in January. We'd be experiencing the same relative free virus situation like Taiwan and New Zealand if the United States had.

The United States has just as good intelligence as Taiwan and just in case U.S. intelligence missed something, Taiwan shared everything with us that they know, told us what they were doing and WARNED the United States to do the same!

Deflections are for amateurs.

Its not a deflection, its a fact. Facts are best understood and used by mature and objective people.

 

[U2Edge]

Here's Italy. Would be nice if our number of cases would decrease like that.

View attachment 350048

We opened back up too early.

As terrible as the situation got in Italy, they did the right thing and are now winning the battle against the virus.

Here in the United States, we finally started to see a decrease in cases and late April and early May and then essentially stopped the lockdown, just as we were starting to see some progress. Now 100,000 more Americans will die by October because of the policies of Trumpers and those that think like them.

Horseshit

Cases per day peaked in the United States in late April. Then they went down until May 10, 2020. Since May 10, 2020 that United States has continued to average 20,000+ confirmed infections per day. That's a FACT!

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Here's Italy. Would be nice if our number of cases would decrease like that.

View attachment 350048

We opened back up too early.

As terrible as the situation got in Italy, they did the right thing and are now winning the battle against the virus.

Here in the United States, we finally started to see a decrease in cases and late April and early May and then essentially stopped the lockdown, just as we were starting to see some progress. Now 100,000 more Americans will die by October because of the policies of Trumpers and those that think like them.

Horseshit

Cases per day peaked in the United States in late April. Then they went down until May 10, 2020. Since May 10, 2020 that United States has continued to average 20,000+ confirmed infections per day. That's a FACT!

Here are your facts.....

 

[U2Edge]

Hawaii has a good plan.

No more tourists...ever.

That's what you do until there is a vaccine to stop it. Only an idiot would allow uncontrolled spread of a pandemic among their population.

Depends. If building a fortress leads to more deaths...well...we will find out.

That's easy to answer.

United States deaths from coronavirus: 118,535

New Zealand deaths from coronavirus: 22

Taiwan deaths from coronavirus: 7

Those numbers above tell you everything you need to know.


Last death in New Zealand from coronavirus was on May 28, 2020
Last death in Taiwan from coronavirus was on May 11, 2020
Last death in the United States was yesterday June 15, 2020 with a total of 425 people dying. We'll know at the end of the day today, June 16, 2020 what the death toll was for Americans on this day.

The difference about what works and what does not could not be more clear given the above data.

Time will tell. Starvation, assaults, and suicides have not been included.

Well, if there has been an increase in homicides and suicides, lets see the data. I don't think there is any city that is registering suicides and homicides in greater numbers than last year or the past decade. If anything homicides are likely DOWN as people isolate. Fighting in the Middle East has dropped significantly since the pandemic.

 

[U2Edge]

California is lighting off.

2,300 cases today.

Another blue state.......

A Blue State with plenty of Trumpers and those that think like Trumpers when it comes to the dangers of covid-19 and what should be done about it.

Fuck off.

Sorry, but that's reality. Lockdowns, isolation and restrictions work. Individuals and governments that do the opposite sufferer the results.

No, they don't.

We killed a great many elderly because we focused on all the wrong things.

You are living a bullshit fairy tale and can't seem to get out of it.

The Mountain West never really locked down except for the most high risk activities.

Not only do I live there, I am in contact with many others who are. Never locked down. End of discussion. ABC did a special on southern Utah...almost no impact.

Now, we are into the higher risk activities and we are seeing issues. That was expected (by me) and why I still don't go out to dinner.

But the lockdowns as they were run were totally pathetic wastes.

New York and the rest of the N.E. killed the majority of people in this country. And they were supposedly locked down the hardest.

The Mountain states are the most isolated areas of the country. The lockdowns of the other 40 states further protected them. Their actions are not an example of what to do in a pandemic. Its just their luck that they were in isolated areas to begin with and that the rest of the country locked down which protected them.

The GOLD standard for dealing with this pandemic is NEW ZEALAND and TAIWAN, not Montana or Wyoming.


North East was seeded with the virus early before the lockdowns because Trump moved to slowly to restrict travel. That's why the North East numbers were so high. They were more exposed for a variety of reasons and the lockdowns did not take place until long after the virus had penetrated the populations.

 

[U2Edge]

Here's Italy. Would be nice if our number of cases would decrease like that.

View attachment 350048

We opened back up too early.

As terrible as the situation got in Italy, they did the right thing and are now winning the battle against the virus.

Here in the United States, we finally started to see a decrease in cases and late April and early May and then essentially stopped the lockdown, just as we were starting to see some progress. Now 100,000 more Americans will die by October because of the policies of Trumpers and those that think like them.

Horseshit

Cases per day peaked in the United States in late April. Then they went down until May 10, 2020. Since May 10, 2020 that United States has continued to average 20,000+ confirmed infections per day. That's a FACT!

Here are your facts.....

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View attachment 351198

Exactly what I stated before. A Peak in April with a little drop after until around May 10, 2020. From May 10, 2020, the United States has steadily averaged 20,000 cases per day.

Meanwhile, Taiwan and New Zealand are lucky if they get one case in a two week period. The United States perfectly represents FAILURE when it comes to dealing with this virus. The success stories are New Zealand and Taiwan. The numbers show that is an indisputable fact.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

California is lighting off.

2,300 cases today.

Another blue state.......

A Blue State with plenty of Trumpers and those that think like Trumpers when it comes to the dangers of covid-19 and what should be done about it.

Fuck off.

Sorry, but that's reality. Lockdowns, isolation and restrictions work. Individuals and governments that do the opposite sufferer the results.

No, they don't.

We killed a great many elderly because we focused on all the wrong things.

You are living a bullshit fairy tale and can't seem to get out of it.

The Mountain West never really locked down except for the most high risk activities.

Not only do I live there, I am in contact with many others who are. Never locked down. End of discussion. ABC did a special on southern Utah...almost no impact.

Now, we are into the higher risk activities and we are seeing issues. That was expected (by me) and why I still don't go out to dinner.

But the lockdowns as they were run were totally pathetic wastes.

New York and the rest of the N.E. killed the majority of people in this country. And they were supposedly locked down the hardest.

The Mountain states are the most isolated areas of the country. The lockdowns of the other 40 states further protected them. Their actions are not an example of what to do in a pandemic. Its just their luck that they were in isolated areas to begin with and that the rest of the country locked down which protected them.

The GOLD standard for dealing with this pandemic is NEW ZEALAND and TAIWAN, not Montana or Wyoming.


North East was seeded with the virus early before the lockdowns because Trump moved to slowly to restrict travel. That's why the North East numbers were so high. They were more exposed for a variety of reasons and the lockdowns did not take place until long after the virus had penetrated the populations.

Yes, we are quite familiar with your whining and excuses.

Give it a rest.

It's not less bullshit now than it was then.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Here's Italy. Would be nice if our number of cases would decrease like that.

View attachment 350048

We opened back up too early.

As terrible as the situation got in Italy, they did the right thing and are now winning the battle against the virus.

Here in the United States, we finally started to see a decrease in cases and late April and early May and then essentially stopped the lockdown, just as we were starting to see some progress. Now 100,000 more Americans will die by October because of the policies of Trumpers and those that think like them.

Horseshit

Cases per day peaked in the United States in late April. Then they went down until May 10, 2020. Since May 10, 2020 that United States has continued to average 20,000+ confirmed infections per day. That's a FACT!

Here are your facts.....

View attachment 351195
View attachment 351198

Exactly what I stated before. A Peak in April with a little drop after until around May 10, 2020. From May 10, 2020, the United States has steadily averaged 20,000 cases per day.

Meanwhile, Taiwan and New Zealand are lucky if they get one case in a two week period. The United States perfectly represents FAILURE when it comes to dealing with this virus. The success stories are New Zealand and Taiwan. The numbers show that is an indisputable fact.

Sorry, but your apples and oranges comparisons didn't fly before and they don't fly now.