OFFICIAL: Kavanaugh Hearings Thread

[Asclepias]

K so let's really break this down.

When she was 15, someone pushed her into a room, groped her over her clothes, laughed with her friend about it, briefly covered her mouth and....that was it. She escaped and that was the end of that.

Not good. Very bad. Unfortunate. If true, the guy's a cad.

But this woman, a wife and mother with two sons, two master's degrees, a PhD and etc is so traumatized by this almost 40 years later she "can't fly"? (but can). She needs two doors on the first floor? (But not until 2012).

That's just not right. I don't think it jives. I think she DID recover from this, and maybe trouble in her marriage brought it up again, fine. But to NOW cast this as if it "broke her". Nope. And don't a single man here fall for it, either.

Sorry but I know women that have been through the same thing and it indeed fucks up their lives.

 

[jc456]

no one has come forward to say they took her home!!!!

last testimony she was standing on the street somewhere. And she's been there until August of 2018. Lots of those girls out there right . Nobody has come forward to say they took her there. Nobody has come forward to say they saw her there. But we have to believe her. Not one Democrat has actually asked a question. Lots of how brave she was and how credible she is but credibility has to be based on some sort of evidence or we are all in big trouble. Because "even if you didn't you did" unless you keep video recorded evidence from every minute of your life you could be charged and prosecuted/ persecuted for any accusation no matter how ridiculous.

The lady-professor told her story.

It was the opening volley in a huge battle between GOP and DEMs that will continue all day.

Then a vote tomorrow, unless Kavanaugh or Trump withdraws the nomination first.

nothing new was learned today.

BTW, I knew this before this ever happened. It's why I said last Tuesday there should have been a vote.

Meh, it does seem pretty pointless so far, but even so it needed to be done even if just for appearances.

no it didn't, elections have consequences not giveaways.

 

[Asclepias]

I still want to know how her husband didn't want to go take kavanaugh on in 2012 after learning what he supposedly learned in 2012.

Yeah that would have turned out good. Attack a judge and get sent to prison for assault?

 

[yiostheoy]

no one has come forward to say they took her home!!!!

last testimony she was standing on the street somewhere. And she's been there until August of 2018. Lots of those girls out there right . Nobody has come forward to say they took her there. Nobody has come forward to say they saw her there. But we have to believe her. Not one Democrat has actually asked a question. Lots of how brave she was and how credible she is but credibility has to be based on some sort of evidence or we are all in big trouble. Because "even if you didn't you did" unless you keep video recorded evidence from every minute of your life you could be charged and prosecuted/ persecuted for any accusation no matter how ridiculous.

The lady-professor told her story.

It was the opening volley in a huge battle between GOP and DEMs that will continue all day.

Then a vote tomorrow, unless Kavanaugh or Trump withdraws the nomination first.

nothing new was learned today.

BTW, I knew this before this ever happened. It's why I said last Tuesday there should have been a vote.

Meh, it does seem pretty pointless so far, but even so it needed to be done even if just for appearances.

You don't seem to appreciate the gravity of the situation.

 

[EverCurious]

last testimony she was standing on the street somewhere. And she's been there until August of 2018. Lots of those girls out there right . Nobody has come forward to say they took her there. Nobody has come forward to say they saw her there. But we have to believe her. Not one Democrat has actually asked a question. Lots of how brave she was and how credible she is but credibility has to be based on some sort of evidence or we are all in big trouble. Because "even if you didn't you did" unless you keep video recorded evidence from every minute of your life you could be charged and prosecuted/ persecuted for any accusation no matter how ridiculous.

The lady-professor told her story.

It was the opening volley in a huge battle between GOP and DEMs that will continue all day.

Then a vote tomorrow, unless Kavanaugh or Trump withdraws the nomination first.

nothing new was learned today.

BTW, I knew this before this ever happened. It's why I said last Tuesday there should have been a vote.

Meh, it does seem pretty pointless so far, but even so it needed to be done even if just for appearances.

no it didn't, elections have consequences not giveaways.

I don't play partisan games ~shrug~

 

[martybegan]

So you are saying the FBI can just up and investigate someone breaking a State law (which is what Kavenaugh is accused of) without the permission of the State law enforcement?

It's not a Red Herring, it's how things work.

The FBI investigates federal crimes, crimes across State lines (which usually become federal crimes), can be invited by Local law enforcement to assist. At most otherwise they can come in when local law enforcement is doing their jobs (watch Mississippi Burning for that) but even then that falls under the category of federal crimes.

Actually the FBI is also responsible for doing background checks. They don't need even a suggestion of criminal behavior for that. So suggesting that it's impossible for the FBI to investigate someone up for a position in the federal government, is wrong.

They already did one. Six of them. They wouldn't turn up anything more on this, because as we have seen, there is ZERO documentation of what happened that night.

The Committee has sent questions to anyone they can reach who was involved, that is the same thing the FBI would do, it would just take them longer.

A background check is a very specific thing. They just gather INFORMATION, they don't use it to build a case, which is basically what the left is calling for here.

So if I investigate somebody 100 times but afterwards stuff comes out that I missed does that mean I don't have a right to investigate those things? The only thing I've seen the left, or anybody do is ask for an investigation. Show me one who is even suggesting prosecuting Kavanaugh?

They had months and months to investigate this. Feinstein had the information TWO MONTHS before the official hearings were held.

So we should keep trying people until we find the guilty? How Fascist of you.

Actually trying to prosecute him would be better because you would be held to a far higher standard of evidence, and any judge would throw out the charges in a heartbeat.

They are asking for "An investigation" as cover to vote no and use Ford's accusation as a shield, at least the Dems from Red States are.

-So now you jump from the process of background checks to, "the Democrats use this as a political weapon". Probably... It says nothing about the truth of the claims more about how unethical politics is. Something that Republicans have done on more then a few occasions.
-As to how unfair it is. The picking of a SCOTUS nominee IS a political process not a judicial one. I find it the height of irony that a Republican asks for a nomination process were there is no political gamesmanship and the standard of the nominee in question should be no higher then whether or not he has committed sexual assault beyond reasonable doubt. Garland wasn't even allowed a meeting let alone a hearing when he was put forward. Kavanaugh had no compunction trying to get Clinton impeached for lying about a blowjob between CONSENTING ADULTS. Here's a tip. When asking for not just fair but unreasonable fair behavior. Which, not holding a higher standard that there is doubt that he committed a crime is. It's probably a good idea to have a proven track record of fairness yourself. Otherwise what is it but blatant, self-serving hypocrisy?

I have always been of the opinion that this is nothing more than a political weapon. And the Garland thing has nothing to do with this. He was denied hearings, his whole life wasn't turned upside down in an attempt to ruin him. He wasn't accused of unprovable acts done 30+ years ago.

How many Democratic SC appointments have gone though this much acrimony and outright hatred?

Everything else in your response is bullshit fluff.

How about we ruin your life with accusations with this level of evidence?

 

[FA_Q2]

Lindsey Graham just gave a remarkable interview in the hallway. way to go Lindsey!!!

Lindsey Graham was hysterical and childish, Dr. Ford was emotional, mature and rational.

Republicans needed to break her story and establish that she was not credible

They failed

Ford established that herserlf

She didn’t break
She calmly laid out her story and Republicans failed to break it

???

They did not even try. Had they tried to 'break' her case, successful or not, they would be eviscerated in the public.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Gawd she is hideous....inside and out.

You sound jealous. Typical whorish catty behavior.

She’s fugly.

I bet she looks better than Sassy

Nah I'm no leftist hag, but I'd bet you'd do her....where da white wimmins at? Remember? I sure do you spewing that crap

She's a hideous, fat, wrinkled old cow....and a lyiing bitch. In other words..a leftist hag

 

[Pop23]

K so let's really break this down.

When she was 15, someone pushed her into a room, groped her over her clothes, laughed with her friend about it, briefly covered her mouth and....that was it. She escaped and that was the end of that.

Not good. Very bad. Unfortunate. If true, the guy's a cad.

But this woman, a wife and mother with two sons, two master's degrees, a PhD and etc is so traumatized by this almost 40 years later she "can't fly"? (but can). She needs two doors on the first floor? (But not until 2012).

That's just not right. I don't think it jives. I think she DID recover from this, and maybe trouble in her marriage brought it up again, fine. But to NOW cast this as if it "broke her". Nope. And don't a single man here fall for it, either.

What Mother forgets about the day that she buried her own Mother, 60 days previous, and can't remember it was the SAME DAY she took a polygraph test?

This is not someone to be believed.

 

[Asclepias]

Why the fuck is her looks continually pointed out?

That is more than pointless.

Thats the next progression. She handed the repubs a bag of explosives so now they are in deconstruction mode. They have to find something to break her down.

 

[yiostheoy]

Why the fuck is her looks continually pointed out?

That is more than pointless.

She is a pleasant appealing witness.

That's all it means.

 

[gtopa1]

The last bit was very telling; instead of a one on one interview with a professional(the best method) the Dems told Ford to Lawyer up and take a polygraph.."and hence we are here today"; it's over.

Case closed; it's a hatchet job.

Ford's a pawn.

Greg

 

[yiostheoy]

Why the fuck is her looks continually pointed out?

That is more than pointless.

Thats the next progression. She handed the repubs a bag of explosives so now they are deconstruction mode. They have to find something to break her down.

It looks like Kavanaugh is up next.

The GOP won't take any shots at the lady-professor.

 

[Pop23]

Lindsey Graham just gave a remarkable interview in the hallway. way to go Lindsey!!!

Lindsey Graham was hysterical and childish, Dr. Ford was emotional, mature and rational.

Republicans needed to break her story and establish that she was not credible

They failed

Ford established that herserlf

She didn’t break
She calmly laid out her story and Republicans failed to break it

I extremely enjoyed the part when she admitted she lied about her fear of flying.

 

[JBvM]

maybe he was a normal 17 year old boy. where are the corroborators?

The GOP and Brett do not want his pals to testify under oath before the committee

one even wrote a book about how disgusting he and his friends acted

sure they did. they just said so. you're in error. go fking figure.

Mark Judge, Kavanaugh friend, won't testify. Why?

yet he wrote a book about his disgusting behavior, but

 

[yiostheoy]

It will be interesting what Senators Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski are thinking right about now.

 

[EverCurious]

The last bit was very telling; instead of a one on one interview with a professional(the best method) the Dems told Ford to Lawyer up and take a polygraph.."and hence we are here today"; it's over.

Case closed; it's a hatchet job.

Ford's a pawn.

Greg

This is true, but I think we all knew that already...

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Lindsey Graham just gave a remarkable interview in the hallway. way to go Lindsey!!!

Lindsey Graham was hysterical and childish, Dr. Ford was emotional, mature and rational.

Republicans needed to break her story and establish that she was not credible

They failed

Ford established that herserlf

She didn’t break
She calmly laid out her story and Republicans failed to break it

I extremely enjoyed the part when she admitted she lied about her fear of flying.

That ain't all the old crow lied about

 

[jc456]

last testimony she was standing on the street somewhere. And she's been there until August of 2018. Lots of those girls out there right . Nobody has come forward to say they took her there. Nobody has come forward to say they saw her there. But we have to believe her. Not one Democrat has actually asked a question. Lots of how brave she was and how credible she is but credibility has to be based on some sort of evidence or we are all in big trouble. Because "even if you didn't you did" unless you keep video recorded evidence from every minute of your life you could be charged and prosecuted/ persecuted for any accusation no matter how ridiculous.

The lady-professor told her story.

It was the opening volley in a huge battle between GOP and DEMs that will continue all day.

Then a vote tomorrow, unless Kavanaugh or Trump withdraws the nomination first.

nothing new was learned today.

BTW, I knew this before this ever happened. It's why I said last Tuesday there should have been a vote.

Meh, it does seem pretty pointless so far, but even so it needed to be done even if just for appearances.

You don't seem to appreciate the gravity of the situation.

as easy already posted:

Ford:
Has No Idea Where The Party Was
Has No Idea When The Party Was - not even the YEAR
Not sure how she got there
No idea how she got home
Claims to have been intoxicated, which effects memory
The 4 Witnesses she named say IT NEVER HAPPENED
Never told her family
Never told her friends
Never filed charges
Never intended to file charges
Never came out about it
Never wanted to come out about it
Says her therapist 'got it wrong' in their therapy notes
Claims she 'corrected therapist' in her story to the Washington Post
Has no idea who paid for her polygraph test

...but...

'Ford: I'm '100 percent' certain Kavanaugh assaulted me'

 

[FA_Q2]

K so let's really break this down.

When she was 15, someone pushed her into a room, groped her over her clothes, laughed with her friend about it, briefly covered her mouth and....that was it. She escaped and that was the end of that.

Not good. Very bad. Unfortunate. If true, the guy's a cad.

But this woman, a wife and mother with two sons, two master's degrees, a PhD and etc is so traumatized by this almost 40 years later she "can't fly"? (but can). She needs two doors on the first floor? (But not until 2012).

That's just not right. I don't think it jives. I think she DID recover from this, and maybe trouble in her marriage brought it up again, fine. But to NOW cast this as if it "broke her". Nope. And don't a single man here fall for it, either.

What Mother forgets about the day that she buried her own Mother, 60 days previous, and can't remember it was the SAME DAY she took a polygraph test?

This is not someone to be believed.

This is not relevant. The exact day she took the test is meaningless.