Official USMB Shutdown Showdown Thread --- Jan 10th, 2019

[rightwinger]

I spent 33 years as a Federal Employee and went through several shutdowns

It is not like a vacation. You don’t know when your next paycheck is coming. You don’t go out to dinner, you put purchases on hold, you hold off on your bills and pay those that are most urgent

Pathetic.Cry some more tears. You have no idea what being cutoff from a paycheck is like.

Contrast Federal shutdowns with layoffs? A Federal shutdown .... Fed employee is guaranteed to be made whole.You ever been rounded up like herd only to be told that the company is shutting down at the conclusion of the meeting.... you don’t know when your next paycheck is coming, you put purchases on hold, who hold off on your bills and pay those that are most urgent, EXCEPT..... there is no glimmer or shot of you being made whole UNLESS you get another job.

Oh, maybe you can take solace in that the $100M speaker of the house blinking into the screen that “unemployment checks are good for the economy”

You experienced temporary pain with the confidence you would be made whole again. Maybe you would feel better like the manufacturing workers being told by a President that the jobs just aren’t coming back.

I’d rather be a furloughed Fed than a laid off manufacturing worker any mother fucking day of the week.

Again it is not a lay-off.
It has nothing to do with how you have been doing your job, how well your company is doing or the state of the economy

It is entirely because politicians have egos too big to reach a compromise and you are left to pay the price

You are playing semantics while you got exposed trying to cry the same pain as those of us who experienced it permanently. Quit while you are not that far behind.

Read my post

I said I was able to get by

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Both sides stupid and divisive things.

But the right seems to be better at going mean.

Fox host on federal employees missing paychecks: "At least some people get to go to the beach"

DAGEN MCDOWELL (GUEST HOST): Don't you think that the Democrats are sitting back, waiting for this moment when the furloughed workers don't get their first paycheck, that the first paycheck is missed, because they want that as kind of a tent pole in their, like, media circus?

MICHAEL BLOCK (MARKET STRATEGIST): The problem is, both parties are culpable here.

...

MCDOWELL: 420,000 of them are on the job and not getting paid, so at least some people get to go to the beach, if you will.

Michael Block is right, we need more transparency to see EXACTLY who is offering what...

Public sector is hiring only non essential jobs are impacted.

Public sector is hiring only non essential jobs are impacted.

Good morning, Azog. I consider airline inspections and food inspection as essential.

And they are working with pay being deferred. The way our politicians spend money $5.7bn is chump change. The real reason is political games from both parties at the expense of the people.

 

[JWBooth]

Both sides stupid and divisive things.

But the right seems to be better at going mean.

Fox host on federal employees missing paychecks: "At least some people get to go to the beach"

DAGEN MCDOWELL (GUEST HOST): Don't you think that the Democrats are sitting back, waiting for this moment when the furloughed workers don't get their first paycheck, that the first paycheck is missed, because they want that as kind of a tent pole in their, like, media circus?

MICHAEL BLOCK (MARKET STRATEGIST): The problem is, both parties are culpable here.

...

MCDOWELL: 420,000 of them are on the job and not getting paid, so at least some people get to go to the beach, if you will.

Michael Block is right, we need more transparency to see EXACTLY who is offering what...

What a dummy, in most places it is too cold to go to the beach.

 

[Moonglow]

Both sides stupid and divisive things.

But the right seems to be better at going mean.

Fox host on federal employees missing paychecks: "At least some people get to go to the beach"

DAGEN MCDOWELL (GUEST HOST): Don't you think that the Democrats are sitting back, waiting for this moment when the furloughed workers don't get their first paycheck, that the first paycheck is missed, because they want that as kind of a tent pole in their, like, media circus?

MICHAEL BLOCK (MARKET STRATEGIST): The problem is, both parties are culpable here.

...

MCDOWELL: 420,000 of them are on the job and not getting paid, so at least some people get to go to the beach, if you will.

Michael Block is right, we need more transparency to see EXACTLY who is offering what...

It is a good time to go swimming also..

 

[Faun]

It looks like the rats are bailing on the Piglosi/Schumer sinking ship:

Matthew Boyle, Author at Breitbart​

Congressional Democrats are ditching House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer’s ardent opposition to any barrier or wall along the U.S. border with Mexico, as the partial government shutdown continues and President Donald Trump takes his case directly to the border itself.

““If we have a partial wall, if we have fencing, if we have technology used to keep our border safe, all of that is fine,” Rep. Cheri Bustos (D-IL), the chairwoman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), said on CNN.

Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) also backed a barrier along the U.S. border with Mexico.

“Some fencing is useful, some barriers are useful,” Merkley said. “There’s a lot of surveillance technology. I’ve been to some cities on the border that have triple fencing and have more personnel and have the technology to see the people moving in the middle of the night.”

These very prominent congressional Democrats’ message on the effectiveness of a wall or barrier or fence is very different from the coordinated message from Schumer and Pelosi just two nights ago when the two Democrat leaders in Congress said in their response to President Trump’s Oval Office address that the wall would be “ineffective.”

Pelosi called the wall “expensive and ineffective,” something that was an “obsession” of Trump’s–while Schumer bashed Trump’s “ineffective, unnecessary border wall” and said that America does not need a barrier on the border for security. “We can secure our border without an expensive, ineffective wall,” Schumer said in his response to Trump.

It remains to be seen where this fight goes from here, but the fact that many Democrats are messaging in a very different way from Pelosi and Schumer is particularly interesting as the next stages of this battle​

They are realizing that the gruesome twosome are backing a losing cause. And being politicians they want on the winning side which ain't the gruesome twosomes.

Trumps speech hit on every point I hoped he would make. Illegal that cost the tax payers billions each year and the drugs that come across the border.

The rebuttal was lame and you can bet the voters picked up on that big time.

We will have that wall.

This is what you’ll have for $6 billion...

 

[Claudette]

It looks like the rats are bailing on the Piglosi/Schumer sinking ship:

Matthew Boyle, Author at Breitbart​

Congressional Democrats are ditching House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer’s ardent opposition to any barrier or wall along the U.S. border with Mexico, as the partial government shutdown continues and President Donald Trump takes his case directly to the border itself.

““If we have a partial wall, if we have fencing, if we have technology used to keep our border safe, all of that is fine,” Rep. Cheri Bustos (D-IL), the chairwoman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), said on CNN.

Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) also backed a barrier along the U.S. border with Mexico.

“Some fencing is useful, some barriers are useful,” Merkley said. “There’s a lot of surveillance technology. I’ve been to some cities on the border that have triple fencing and have more personnel and have the technology to see the people moving in the middle of the night.”

These very prominent congressional Democrats’ message on the effectiveness of a wall or barrier or fence is very different from the coordinated message from Schumer and Pelosi just two nights ago when the two Democrat leaders in Congress said in their response to President Trump’s Oval Office address that the wall would be “ineffective.”

Pelosi called the wall “expensive and ineffective,” something that was an “obsession” of Trump’s–while Schumer bashed Trump’s “ineffective, unnecessary border wall” and said that America does not need a barrier on the border for security. “We can secure our border without an expensive, ineffective wall,” Schumer said in his response to Trump.

It remains to be seen where this fight goes from here, but the fact that many Democrats are messaging in a very different way from Pelosi and Schumer is particularly interesting as the next stages of this battle​

They are realizing that the gruesome twosome are backing a losing cause. And being politicians they want on the winning side which ain't the gruesome twosomes.

Trumps speech hit on every point I hoped he would make. Illegal that cost the tax payers billions each year and the drugs that come across the border.

The rebuttal was lame and you can bet the voters picked up on that big time.

We will have that wall.

This is what you’ll have for $6 billion...

Nope. We save billions that illegals cost us every year.

 

[LeftofLeft]

I spent 33 years as a Federal Employee and went through several shutdowns

It is not like a vacation. You don’t know when your next paycheck is coming. You don’t go out to dinner, you put purchases on hold, you hold off on your bills and pay those that are most urgent

Pathetic.Cry some more tears. You have no idea what being cutoff from a paycheck is like.

Contrast Federal shutdowns with layoffs? A Federal shutdown .... Fed employee is guaranteed to be made whole.You ever been rounded up like herd only to be told that the company is shutting down at the conclusion of the meeting.... you don’t know when your next paycheck is coming, you put purchases on hold, who hold off on your bills and pay those that are most urgent, EXCEPT..... there is no glimmer or shot of you being made whole UNLESS you get another job.

Oh, maybe you can take solace in that the $100M speaker of the house blinking into the screen that “unemployment checks are good for the economy”

You experienced temporary pain with the confidence you would be made whole again. Maybe you would feel better like the manufacturing workers being told by a President that the jobs just aren’t coming back.

I’d rather be a furloughed Fed than a laid off manufacturing worker any mother fucking day of the week.

Again it is not a lay-off.
It has nothing to do with how you have been doing your job, how well your company is doing or the state of the economy

It is entirely because politicians have egos too big to reach a compromise and you are left to pay the price

You are playing semantics while you got exposed trying to cry the same pain as those of us who experienced it permanently. Quit while you are not that far behind.

Read my post

I said I was able to get by

Of course. Further, you were MORE than able to get by. Your temporary Federal unemployment was secured in the guarantee that not only you would get your job back, you would get back pay. Feds right now with no paycheck at least have that peace-of-mind.

Again, please stop. Any pain, discomfort, fear that you felt during your multiple Federal furloughs is nothing compared to private sector employees when they are furloughed or especially, laid off. Comparatively, the pain, discomfort, fear and insecurity are felt a lot more.

 

[Faun]

It looks like the rats are bailing on the Piglosi/Schumer sinking ship:

Matthew Boyle, Author at Breitbart​

Congressional Democrats are ditching House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer’s ardent opposition to any barrier or wall along the U.S. border with Mexico, as the partial government shutdown continues and President Donald Trump takes his case directly to the border itself.

““If we have a partial wall, if we have fencing, if we have technology used to keep our border safe, all of that is fine,” Rep. Cheri Bustos (D-IL), the chairwoman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), said on CNN.

Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) also backed a barrier along the U.S. border with Mexico.

“Some fencing is useful, some barriers are useful,” Merkley said. “There’s a lot of surveillance technology. I’ve been to some cities on the border that have triple fencing and have more personnel and have the technology to see the people moving in the middle of the night.”

These very prominent congressional Democrats’ message on the effectiveness of a wall or barrier or fence is very different from the coordinated message from Schumer and Pelosi just two nights ago when the two Democrat leaders in Congress said in their response to President Trump’s Oval Office address that the wall would be “ineffective.”

Pelosi called the wall “expensive and ineffective,” something that was an “obsession” of Trump’s–while Schumer bashed Trump’s “ineffective, unnecessary border wall” and said that America does not need a barrier on the border for security. “We can secure our border without an expensive, ineffective wall,” Schumer said in his response to Trump.

It remains to be seen where this fight goes from here, but the fact that many Democrats are messaging in a very different way from Pelosi and Schumer is particularly interesting as the next stages of this battle​

They are realizing that the gruesome twosome are backing a losing cause. And being politicians they want on the winning side which ain't the gruesome twosomes.

Trumps speech hit on every point I hoped he would make. Illegal that cost the tax payers billions each year and the drugs that come across the border.

The rebuttal was lame and you can bet the voters picked up on that big time.

We will have that wall.

This is what you’ll have for $6 billion...

Nope. We save billions that illegals cost us every year.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, that picture is what trump’s wall looks like now. It took no time for someone to cut through it was an ordinary saw.

It’s not gonna save us a dime and Mexico isn’t gonna pay for it; we are.

 

[Claudette]

It looks like the rats are bailing on the Piglosi/Schumer sinking ship:

Matthew Boyle, Author at Breitbart​

Congressional Democrats are ditching House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer’s ardent opposition to any barrier or wall along the U.S. border with Mexico, as the partial government shutdown continues and President Donald Trump takes his case directly to the border itself.

““If we have a partial wall, if we have fencing, if we have technology used to keep our border safe, all of that is fine,” Rep. Cheri Bustos (D-IL), the chairwoman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), said on CNN.

Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) also backed a barrier along the U.S. border with Mexico.

“Some fencing is useful, some barriers are useful,” Merkley said. “There’s a lot of surveillance technology. I’ve been to some cities on the border that have triple fencing and have more personnel and have the technology to see the people moving in the middle of the night.”

These very prominent congressional Democrats’ message on the effectiveness of a wall or barrier or fence is very different from the coordinated message from Schumer and Pelosi just two nights ago when the two Democrat leaders in Congress said in their response to President Trump’s Oval Office address that the wall would be “ineffective.”

Pelosi called the wall “expensive and ineffective,” something that was an “obsession” of Trump’s–while Schumer bashed Trump’s “ineffective, unnecessary border wall” and said that America does not need a barrier on the border for security. “We can secure our border without an expensive, ineffective wall,” Schumer said in his response to Trump.

It remains to be seen where this fight goes from here, but the fact that many Democrats are messaging in a very different way from Pelosi and Schumer is particularly interesting as the next stages of this battle​

They are realizing that the gruesome twosome are backing a losing cause. And being politicians they want on the winning side which ain't the gruesome twosomes.

Trumps speech hit on every point I hoped he would make. Illegal that cost the tax payers billions each year and the drugs that come across the border.

The rebuttal was lame and you can bet the voters picked up on that big time.

We will have that wall.

This is what you’ll have for $6 billion...

Nope. We save billions that illegals cost us every year.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, that picture is what trump’s wall looks like now. It took no time for someone to cut through it was an ordinary saw.

Nope. Try blow torch.

Just shows we need a new, better wall.

Thanks for pointing it out pinhead.

 

[mudwhistle]

Playing chicken with people's lives. Both sides are to blame. Both sides are acting repugnantly. But we're used to it. Yet we expect them to show up for work. Sick.

You KNOW Republicans are in the wrong whenever you see Republicans citing "both sides."

They can't take responsibility, have to drag the other side down into the muck, the mud and the grime w/them.

Actually the only time a Dummycrap will admit anything is when they start blaming both sides of isle.

 

[Faun]

It looks like the rats are bailing on the Piglosi/Schumer sinking ship:

Matthew Boyle, Author at Breitbart​

Congressional Democrats are ditching House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer’s ardent opposition to any barrier or wall along the U.S. border with Mexico, as the partial government shutdown continues and President Donald Trump takes his case directly to the border itself.

““If we have a partial wall, if we have fencing, if we have technology used to keep our border safe, all of that is fine,” Rep. Cheri Bustos (D-IL), the chairwoman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), said on CNN.

Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) also backed a barrier along the U.S. border with Mexico.

“Some fencing is useful, some barriers are useful,” Merkley said. “There’s a lot of surveillance technology. I’ve been to some cities on the border that have triple fencing and have more personnel and have the technology to see the people moving in the middle of the night.”

These very prominent congressional Democrats’ message on the effectiveness of a wall or barrier or fence is very different from the coordinated message from Schumer and Pelosi just two nights ago when the two Democrat leaders in Congress said in their response to President Trump’s Oval Office address that the wall would be “ineffective.”

Pelosi called the wall “expensive and ineffective,” something that was an “obsession” of Trump’s–while Schumer bashed Trump’s “ineffective, unnecessary border wall” and said that America does not need a barrier on the border for security. “We can secure our border without an expensive, ineffective wall,” Schumer said in his response to Trump.

It remains to be seen where this fight goes from here, but the fact that many Democrats are messaging in a very different way from Pelosi and Schumer is particularly interesting as the next stages of this battle​

They are realizing that the gruesome twosome are backing a losing cause. And being politicians they want on the winning side which ain't the gruesome twosomes.

Trumps speech hit on every point I hoped he would make. Illegal that cost the tax payers billions each year and the drugs that come across the border.

The rebuttal was lame and you can bet the voters picked up on that big time.

We will have that wall.

This is what you’ll have for $6 billion...

Nope. We save billions that illegals cost us every year.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, that picture is what trump’s wall looks like now. It took no time for someone to cut through it was an ordinary saw.

Nope. Try blow torch.

Just shows we need a new, better wall.

Thanks for pointing it out pinhead.

LOLOL

That was done with a saw, rightard. You should have tapped on the picture of it...

Prototype of Trump’s Wall Proves No Match for Saw​

 

[Claudette]

They are realizing that the gruesome twosome are backing a losing cause. And being politicians they want on the winning side which ain't the gruesome twosomes.

Trumps speech hit on every point I hoped he would make. Illegal that cost the tax payers billions each year and the drugs that come across the border.

The rebuttal was lame and you can bet the voters picked up on that big time.

We will have that wall.

This is what you’ll have for $6 billion...

Nope. We save billions that illegals cost us every year.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, that picture is what trump’s wall looks like now. It took no time for someone to cut through it was an ordinary saw.

Nope. Try blow torch.

Just shows we need a new, better wall.

Thanks for pointing it out pinhead.

LOLOL

That was done with a saw, rightard. You should have tapped on the picture of it...

Prototype of Trump’s Wall Proves No Match for Saw​

Nope you can see the back around the edges lefttard.

Carry on pinhead.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Both sides stupid and divisive things.

But the right seems to be better at going mean.

Fox host on federal employees missing paychecks: "At least some people get to go to the beach"

DAGEN MCDOWELL (GUEST HOST): Don't you think that the Democrats are sitting back, waiting for this moment when the furloughed workers don't get their first paycheck, that the first paycheck is missed, because they want that as kind of a tent pole in their, like, media circus?

MICHAEL BLOCK (MARKET STRATEGIST): The problem is, both parties are culpable here.

...

MCDOWELL: 420,000 of them are on the job and not getting paid, so at least some people get to go to the beach, if you will.

Michael Block is right, we need more transparency to see EXACTLY who is offering what...

Pelosi is so unconcerned with her shutdown she went to Hawaii....so what's your problem / point?

Pelosi is a wealthy elitist who looks at everyone as little people. If she were President, we would all be experiencing life under Marie Antoinette.

Yet her legislative record shows otherwise

Can you point to any legislation from Republicans that did not primarily help the rich?

I’m still trying to figure out how her legislation and policies help the poor. First, she tells us that we must first pass legislation do we can find out what is in it. Then, she tries to tout the economic benefits of her legislation by leading with how good Unemployment is for the Economy. A $100 Million Dollar woman patting herself on the back because she just said how good unemployment is.

Trump increased the net take home pay for the Middle Class. How come Obama and Pelosi could not do that? Oh, that’s right.... they view the Midfle Class as wealthy Americans not paying their fair share.

 

[Faun]

This is what you’ll have for $6 billion...

Nope. We save billions that illegals cost us every year.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, that picture is what trump’s wall looks like now. It took no time for someone to cut through it was an ordinary saw.

Nope. Try blow torch.

Just shows we need a new, better wall.

Thanks for pointing it out pinhead.

LOLOL

That was done with a saw, rightard. You should have tapped on the picture of it...

Prototype of Trump’s Wall Proves No Match for Saw​

Nope you can see the back around the edges lefttard.

Carry on pinhead.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, you’re saying the border patrol is lying?

 

[Vandalshandle]

...Yep! That is almost exactly word for word as to how the Soviets defended the Berlin wall...

Yep. But in their case, it was bull$hit; in our case, it would be much closer to the truth... keeping people out, rather than in.

The only way your variant of the analogy works is if we lay-down minefields and machine-gun towers and kill people trying to leave.

I do not remember vast numbers of East Berliners demanding that the Soviets and their East German puppets erect their wall.

... But, let's go past that. Closing the borders would lock out our 4th largest trading partner, Mexico...

Yep. It would hurt folks on both sides of the border, but it would hurt them far worse than it hurts us.

...And, like Trump, you think this is a GOOD thing!...

The economic damage would not be a good thing, but the regaining of border integrity and economic equity might prove worth the cost.

...Neither of you, apparently, passed Econon. 101. Christ on a bicycle, Galt, go back to school...

Or, alternatively, they understand the basics, but think that such economic sparring would hurt, short-term, but help, longer-term.

They may be wrong... or they may be right... but I suspect they're committed to putting it to the test.

So, you would destroy 25% of the American economy that deals in exports, and allow the federal government to lock us inside the US.

Thank god you will never be president.

 

[rightwinger]

I spent 33 years as a Federal Employee and went through several shutdowns

It is not like a vacation. You don’t know when your next paycheck is coming. You don’t go out to dinner, you put purchases on hold, you hold off on your bills and pay those that are most urgent

Pathetic.Cry some more tears. You have no idea what being cutoff from a paycheck is like.

Contrast Federal shutdowns with layoffs? A Federal shutdown .... Fed employee is guaranteed to be made whole.You ever been rounded up like herd only to be told that the company is shutting down at the conclusion of the meeting.... you don’t know when your next paycheck is coming, you put purchases on hold, who hold off on your bills and pay those that are most urgent, EXCEPT..... there is no glimmer or shot of you being made whole UNLESS you get another job.

Oh, maybe you can take solace in that the $100M speaker of the house blinking into the screen that “unemployment checks are good for the economy”

You experienced temporary pain with the confidence you would be made whole again. Maybe you would feel better like the manufacturing workers being told by a President that the jobs just aren’t coming back.

I’d rather be a furloughed Fed than a laid off manufacturing worker any mother fucking day of the week.

Again it is not a lay-off.
It has nothing to do with how you have been doing your job, how well your company is doing or the state of the economy

It is entirely because politicians have egos too big to reach a compromise and you are left to pay the price

You are playing semantics while you got exposed trying to cry the same pain as those of us who experienced it permanently. Quit while you are not that far behind.

Read my post

I said I was able to get by

Of course. Further, you were MORE than able to get by. Your temporary Federal unemployment was secured in the guarantee that not only you would get your job back, you would get back pay. Feds right now with no paycheck at least have that peace-of-mind.

Again, please stop. Any pain, discomfort, fear that you felt during your multiple Federal furloughs is nothing compared to private sector employees when they are furloughed or especially, laid off. Comparatively, the pain, discomfort, fear and insecurity are felt a lot more.

While we were out, we were never guaranteed back pay.

I never compared a furlough to getting laid off. I said it was something you had to compensate for and was not like a vacation

But you were furloughed for economic reasons not because of political temper tantrums

The Ted Cruz furlough cost the taxpayer $26 billion. Much, much more than the stupid wall would cost

 

[LeftofLeft]

Pathetic.Cry some more tears. You have no idea what being cutoff from a paycheck is like.

Contrast Federal shutdowns with layoffs? A Federal shutdown .... Fed employee is guaranteed to be made whole.You ever been rounded up like herd only to be told that the company is shutting down at the conclusion of the meeting.... you don’t know when your next paycheck is coming, you put purchases on hold, who hold off on your bills and pay those that are most urgent, EXCEPT..... there is no glimmer or shot of you being made whole UNLESS you get another job.

Oh, maybe you can take solace in that the $100M speaker of the house blinking into the screen that “unemployment checks are good for the economy”

You experienced temporary pain with the confidence you would be made whole again. Maybe you would feel better like the manufacturing workers being told by a President that the jobs just aren’t coming back.

I’d rather be a furloughed Fed than a laid off manufacturing worker any mother fucking day of the week.

Again it is not a lay-off.
It has nothing to do with how you have been doing your job, how well your company is doing or the state of the economy

It is entirely because politicians have egos too big to reach a compromise and you are left to pay the price

You are playing semantics while you got exposed trying to cry the same pain as those of us who experienced it permanently. Quit while you are not that far behind.

Read my post

I said I was able to get by

Of course. Further, you were MORE than able to get by. Your temporary Federal unemployment was secured in the guarantee that not only you would get your job back, you would get back pay. Feds right now with no paycheck at least have that peace-of-mind.

Again, please stop. Any pain, discomfort, fear that you felt during your multiple Federal furloughs is nothing compared to private sector employees when they are furloughed or especially, laid off. Comparatively, the pain, discomfort, fear and insecurity are felt a lot more.

While we were out, we were never guaranteed back pay.

I never compared a furlough to getting laid off. I said it was something you had to compensate for and was not like a vacation

But you were furloughed for economic reasons not because of political temper tantrums

The Ted Cruz furlough cost the taxpayer $26 billion. Much, much more than the stupid wall would cost

What Fed furlough did not result in one not getting job back or back pay? Further, political tantrums? You work in the government and your masters are the politicians that oversee your agencies and can create and destroy them.... your goddamn right you are subject to tantrums. Here is what is worse: Tantrrums that drive policy that impact the economy that result in permanent job loss.

You want to keep going or are you going to accept that you were cradled by the serenity and security that it was just a tantrum that would blow over and you would be made whole?

 

[bripat9643]

It looks like the rats are bailing on the Piglosi/Schumer sinking ship:

Matthew Boyle, Author at Breitbart​

Congressional Democrats are ditching House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer’s ardent opposition to any barrier or wall along the U.S. border with Mexico, as the partial government shutdown continues and President Donald Trump takes his case directly to the border itself.

““If we have a partial wall, if we have fencing, if we have technology used to keep our border safe, all of that is fine,” Rep. Cheri Bustos (D-IL), the chairwoman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), said on CNN.

Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) also backed a barrier along the U.S. border with Mexico.

“Some fencing is useful, some barriers are useful,” Merkley said. “There’s a lot of surveillance technology. I’ve been to some cities on the border that have triple fencing and have more personnel and have the technology to see the people moving in the middle of the night.”

These very prominent congressional Democrats’ message on the effectiveness of a wall or barrier or fence is very different from the coordinated message from Schumer and Pelosi just two nights ago when the two Democrat leaders in Congress said in their response to President Trump’s Oval Office address that the wall would be “ineffective.”

Pelosi called the wall “expensive and ineffective,” something that was an “obsession” of Trump’s–while Schumer bashed Trump’s “ineffective, unnecessary border wall” and said that America does not need a barrier on the border for security. “We can secure our border without an expensive, ineffective wall,” Schumer said in his response to Trump.

It remains to be seen where this fight goes from here, but the fact that many Democrats are messaging in a very different way from Pelosi and Schumer is particularly interesting as the next stages of this battle​

They are realizing that the gruesome twosome are backing a losing cause. And being politicians they want on the winning side which ain't the gruesome twosomes.

Trumps speech hit on every point I hoped he would make. Illegal that cost the tax payers billions each year and the drugs that come across the border.

The rebuttal was lame and you can bet the voters picked up on that big time.

We will have that wall.

This is what you’ll have for $6 billion...

Nope. We save billions that illegals cost us every year.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, that picture is what trump’s wall looks like now. It took no time for someone to cut through it was an ordinary saw.

It’s not gonna save us a dime and Mexico isn’t gonna pay for it; we are.

Wrong. The article says the wall samples were "vulnerable to breaching." It doesn't say how it was done.

 

[bripat9643]

Nope. We save billions that illegals cost us every year.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, that picture is what trump’s wall looks like now. It took no time for someone to cut through it was an ordinary saw.

Nope. Try blow torch.

Just shows we need a new, better wall.

Thanks for pointing it out pinhead.

LOLOL

That was done with a saw, rightard. You should have tapped on the picture of it...

Prototype of Trump’s Wall Proves No Match for Saw​

Nope you can see the back around the edges lefttard.

Carry on pinhead.

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Dumbfuck, you’re saying the border patrol is lying?

No, you are the one who is lying.

 

[bripat9643]

They are realizing that the gruesome twosome are backing a losing cause. And being politicians they want on the winning side which ain't the gruesome twosomes.

Trumps speech hit on every point I hoped he would make. Illegal that cost the tax payers billions each year and the drugs that come across the border.

The rebuttal was lame and you can bet the voters picked up on that big time.

We will have that wall.

This is what you’ll have for $6 billion...

Nope. We save billions that illegals cost us every year.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, that picture is what trump’s wall looks like now. It took no time for someone to cut through it was an ordinary saw.

Nope. Try blow torch.

Just shows we need a new, better wall.

Thanks for pointing it out pinhead.

LOLOL

That was done with a saw, rightard. You should have tapped on the picture of it...

Prototype of Trump’s Wall Proves No Match for Saw​

Those words aren't in the article. You made them up.