Ohio gunman described himself as pro Satan 'leftist' supported Liz Warren

[2aguy]

es....crime in those neighborhoods has driven out businesses including food stores.....dumb ass.

So let me get this straight. We have astronomical crime rates in this country because of easy access to guns... but those poor people deserve to starve because they live in the worst of it...

Am I Getting you right, DickTiny?

No...we don't have astronomical crime rates...in fact, violent crime has gone down 75% over the last 26 years.......

What we have is a democrat party whose members keep letting known, violent, repeat gun offenders from jail on Bond, often not even making paying a Bond necessary, and judges who give short prison sentences to repeat, violent gun offenders....then we have democrat politicians who keep reducing the penalties for violent gun crime....

That is why democrat voting districts are filled with violent crime.

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Moron....you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a government or private food program in this country, you asshat......the only reason children go hungry in this country is bad parents....you doofus...our problem isn't hungry children, our problem is early onset health problems in our children due to obesity...you moron.

No, the reason why they go hungry is we don't have enough of these programs.

Or do you really think you can feed a family of four on $80.00 a week?

I know I spend more than that on food every week just for myself.

Oh, you do realize obesity is a sign of the problem. People are eating fattening, unhealthy foods because they are cheap. They can't afford the healthy food they should be eating.

Bull. Most Americans don't eat correctly and they don't get nearly that fat. How much is a bag of carrots? Potatoes? Did you ever look in a cart of a person using food stamps and see what they are buying??? Hostess cupcakes are about $6.50 for an eight pack.

And WTF has a family of four if they can't feed them? What allowed them have a family of four in the first place? Oh, that's' right, governments promise to help them with the family they could never afford.

It's funny though, when Republican Governors instituted requirements for food stamp people, they dropped out of the program. That doesn't sound like a bunch of people hungry to me. If you were truly hungry, you'd do anything for food.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Wow...you really have a problem....we are talking about hunger in America and you go back to talking about the penis........... you need help joe.....it isn't just that guns remind you of the male sex organ, everything seems to remind you of the male sex organ....get help.

Naw, man, you should be proud of your shortcomings... the little fellow is so lonely, that you spend so much time stroking your guns.

The hilarious thing is that you support a system that creates such stark inequality, and then feel you need enough guns to fight off the zombies to protect yourself from it... that's kind of sad.

Actually the reason we need our guns is because of Democrats. Democrats are very intolerant and violent people.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Asshat......I explained why children go hungry, you moron.... we have food, it is available to everyone, if a child doesn't have food it is because their parents aren't providing it....and that is because they are addicted to drugs, alcohol or are some other kind of criminal...you moron.

It's not available to everyone. Available to everyone would mean, "you go in and they give you free food, any time you ask for it."

We have 40 million people who go hungry in this country. Are you saying they are all criminals?

No wonder you cling to your guns in such terror. Maybe it isn't about your tiny dick. Naw, who am I kidding, it definitely is.

Maybe it's your partisanship that's keeping you ignorant.

Tell us, what is the definition of hunger in the US? What does it mean?

Well, evil right-wing factcheck has the answers for you, if you dare to read it.

Pelosi Misrepresents Childhood 'Hunger' Data

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I do make efforts to reduce our carbon footprint. But government action is needed to enforce standards and reduce emissions.

No it isn't. And you don't do squat to reduce anything. You don't have solar panels, you don't have a windmill, and you haven't ridden a bike since you were 13.

Oh, I don't k now.. maybe because we need to have everyone insured. I'm kind of tired of payingmore for insurance because some uninsured slob like you shows up at an ER.

And Commie Care didn't accomplish that, now did it?

All Democrats want to do is create more government dependents so people rely on them for help. They could care less if you die in the street from not having medical care if you don't vote for them.

The investigation stated the Russians DID interfere. The only thing they didn't conclude was if Trump was smart enough to know what was going on.

Muller stated "NO" American was involved with anything conducted by Russia.

Hillary got more votes. She won. Gore got more votes. He won. The ONLY time you guys won the Popular Vote at a national level in a straight up election was in 2004, when Bush convinced you that there was a terrorist hiding under your bed.

They won? I don't recall Hillary ever being President, that goes double for Al Gore.

This lost me when it repeated the "$73.00 an hour" lie. This is a lie. It's always been a lie.

Here's why GM FAILED. The rich guys with the eight figure salaries produced shit cars like the Chevette while the Japanese produced quality cars. So while guys like my dad would never buy a Japanese car because he was still pissed about Pearl Harbor, people of my generation bought a crappy Chevette, had nothing but problems with it, and then moved over to a Toyota or a Honda and stayed loyal to the Rising Sun ever since.

Just as I did.

You can't put quality parts in a car if you are paying your labor that amount in wages and benefits. Yes, it is $73.00 an hour when you include everything.

I ran into a guy I used to know as a teen. After some chit chat, I asked about another guy we hung around with. Sad to say, he got hooked on dope. However he did get a job at GM when he was 18. He retired at 53. Nice pension, healthcare provided, he's living the dream.

These are what's called Legacy Costs. You pay them when you buy American made cars. So to compete with Japanese cars, they had to put crap parts into them.

This is not to mention you don't get the kind of work from union people that you get from non-union people. I've made enough deliveries to UAW plants to know. It's amazing any work gets done at all in those places.

I just got rid of my old car and bought another used Camry. The other car ran fine, but it had 111,000 miles on it and I didn't want to put any money into it when it started breaking. But that car drove me around all those miles and never seen a tow truck. I never had to be late for work or call off a day like I repeatedly had to do with my last American made car.

Now I don't have to worry. I have bumper to bumper coverage until 107,000 miles or seven years, whichever comes first. It only has 20,000 miles on it now. But American cars can't offer similar coverage. They know they'd lose money on it.

 

[JoeB131]

No...we don't have astronomical crime rates...in fact, violent crime has gone down 75% over the last 26 years.......

Yup, and pools are more dangerous than assault rifles, or whatever kind of shit you want to peddle here.

 

[JoeB131]

No it isn't. And you don't do squat to reduce anything. You don't have solar panels, you don't have a windmill, and you haven't ridden a bike since you were 13.

Naw, I still ride a bike now. But for exercise, not to get anywhere...

But you are changing the subject. The subject is no "what are you doing", it's are human being causing the problem.

Yes. Yes, they are.

So what actions do we need to take on a global level to fix it.

Just as I did.

You can't put quality parts in a car if you are paying your labor that amount in wages and benefits. Yes, it is $73.00 an hour when you include everything.

73 is a lie. The only way you get to 73 dollars is if you factor in the pension costs because the greedy CEO's stole that money.

Your argument would make sense if we lost to better capitalists. We didn't. WE LOST TO SOCIALIST COUNTRIES. SOCIALISM WORKED!!!!

I know this is hard for you to grasp, but Japanese and German Car makers have unions in their countries (where most of their cars are made), the CEO's do not make obscene salaries like ours do for failing.

And Commie Care didn't accomplish that, now did it?

All Democrats want to do is create more government dependents so people rely on them for help. They could care less if you die in the street from not having medical care if you don't vote for them.

And you think the Republicans do? They want you to die in the street so they can give tax cuts to billionaires.

What a dumb shit. Lives in a slum, worries if the Billionaires have enough. How fucked up is this?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Naw, I still ride a bike now. But for exercise, not to get anywhere...

But you are changing the subject. The subject is no "what are you doing", it's are human being causing the problem.

Yes. Yes, they are.

So what actions do we need to take on a global level to fix it.

There is nothing to fix. We are not causing the problems. The climate has been changing for millions of years, and if every human died today, it will be changing in 1000 years. Trying to stop climate from changing is like trying to stop it from raining today. How did the ice age end? That's right, climate changed, without one automobile, factory or cow fart.

73 is a lie. The only way you get to 73 dollars is if you factor in the pension costs because the greedy CEO's stole that money.

Your argument would make sense if we lost to better capitalists. We didn't. WE LOST TO SOCIALIST COUNTRIES. SOCIALISM WORKED!!!!

I know this is hard for you to grasp, but Japanese and German Car makers have unions in their countries (where most of their cars are made), the CEO's do not make obscene salaries like ours do for failing.

That's what I said, when all costs are factored in. Yes, pensions, vacation time, sick time, holiday pay, medical insurance, unemployment insurance, workman's compensation insurance, matching SS and Medicare contributions, overtime, all of it.

A late friend of mine worked at the steel mills here in Cleveland. He couldn't wait to get laid off when times were slow. On top of his unemployment, the mill paid him 90% of his average weekly pay. He made more money being laid off than he did working, plus he worked under the table for his sister who ran an office cleaning business.

The UAW does the exact same thing. So this all costs a ton of money. As for my childhood friend, what if he lives until 89? How much will GM spend to support him all of these decades?

And you think the Republicans do? They want you to die in the street so they can give tax cuts to billionaires.

What a dumb shit. Lives in a slum, worries if the Billionaires have enough. How fucked up is this?

Actually I'm not worried about anybody. I mind my own business. I'm not obsessed on what other people have. I focus on what I have.

 

[JoeB131]

There is nothing to fix. We are not causing the problems. The climate has been changing for millions of years, and if every human died today, it will be changing in 1000 years. Trying to stop climate from changing is like trying to stop it from raining today. How did the ice age end? That's right, climate changed, without one automobile, factory or cow fart.

Hmmm... 95% of climate scientists... vs. one guy who drives a truck in a straight line in a slum.
I'm going with 95% of climate scientists.

That's what I said, when all costs are factored in. Yes, pensions, vacation time, sick time, holiday pay, medical insurance, unemployment insurance, workman's compensation insurance, matching SS and Medicare contributions, overtime, all of it.

A late friend of mine worked at the steel mills here in Cleveland. He couldn't wait to get laid off when times were slow. On top of his unemployment, the mill paid him 90% of his average weekly pay. He made more money being laid off than he did working, plus he worked under the table for his sister who ran an office cleaning business.

Sounds like bad management if you are paying people to not do work. I'd find something for them to do that was useful.

Again, this is why the Japanese beat our pants off...

The UAW does the exact same thing. So this all costs a ton of money. As for my childhood friend, what if he lives until 89? How much will GM spend to support him all of these decades?

What if he does? Frankly, it's still cheaper than paying Wagonner 12 million dollars for running the company into the ground.

Actually I'm not worried about anybody. I mind my own business. I'm not obsessed on what other people have. I focus on what I have.

So why do you bitch when they talk about raising taxes on the rich, if it has no effect on you?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Hmmm... 95% of climate scientists... vs. one guy who drives a truck in a straight line in a slum.
I'm going with 95% of climate scientists.

It's more than one guy in a truck:

List of scientists who disagree with the scientific consensus on global warming - Wikipedia

Global warming: second thoughts of an environmentalist

Leaked U.N. Report Confirms Global Warming Is Nonexistent, Planet Actually Cooling… | Weasel Zippers

Busting the 97% Myth | Climategate Book

World's top climate scientists confess: Global warming is just QUARTER what we thought - and computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong | Daily Mail Online

Sounds like bad management if you are paying people to not do work. I'd find something for them to do that was useful.

Again, this is why the Japanese beat our pants off...

Our overpowering unions only claim you need to be breathing to keep your job. If you had a job you couldn't get fired from, you wouldn't work very hard either. That's one of the many problems unions brought us.

What if he does? Frankly, it's still cheaper than paying Wagonner 12 million dollars for running the company into the ground.

What if he does? Then every person buying an American piece of junk will be paying for him and tens of thousands of early retired workers to sit home, that's what it does. You don't have those legacy costs in foreign cars.

So why do you bitch when they talk about raising taxes on the rich, if it has no effect on you?

It doesn't? Where do you think the rich get the money to pay for those increased taxes, from under their mattress?

No. They increase the price of their products or services, perhaps cut or eliminate benefits for their workers, or move out of the country taking their jobs with them.

 

[bodecea]

Wow...you really have a problem....we are talking about hunger in America and you go back to talking about the penis........... you need help joe.....it isn't just that guns remind you of the male sex organ, everything seems to remind you of the male sex organ....get help.

Naw, man, you should be proud of your shortcomings... the little fellow is so lonely, that you spend so much time stroking your guns.

The hilarious thing is that you support a system that creates such stark inequality, and then feel you need enough guns to fight off the zombies to protect yourself from it... that's kind of sad.

Actually the reason we need our guns is because of Democrats. Democrats are very intolerant and violent people.

So Democrats scare you when you go out.

 

[JoeB131]

It's more than one guy in a truck:

But they have as much credibility.... Quacks and sellouts to the oil industry.

Our overpowering unions only claim you need to be breathing to keep your job. If you had a job you couldn't get fired from, you wouldn't work very hard either. That's one of the many problems unions brought us.

Only a problem to you. Yeah, if you have bad management, you won't get much work out of people if they belong to a union or not. I've worked for companies where management thought they could fire their way to better employees. First job I had out of the Army. In the four years I worked there, we fired or lost 96 employees out of a staff that never exceeded 30. My favorite was the girl who quit after four hours of seeing how toxic the office was.

That company closed down the Chicago branch and was out of business in a year. Sometimes there is Karma.

What if he does? Then every person buying an American piece of junk will be paying for him and tens of thousands of early retired workers to sit home, that's what it does. You don't have those legacy costs in foreign cars.

Well, yeah, you do, they are being paid to workers in Japan, where they have fantastic benefits. Since most of those factories have only been around since the 1980's, they are going to have the same pension issues soon enough.

It doesn't? Where do you think the rich get the money to pay for those increased taxes, from under their mattress?

No. They increase the price of their products or services, perhaps cut or eliminate benefits for their workers, or move out of the country taking their jobs with them.

Again, we can make the lives of the rich pretty miserable. They wouldn't spend as much money buying the GOP if they weren't paying those taxes.

Funny thing. They scream like little bitches when the Democrats make them pay their fair share, but they get rich when Dems are in charge because Democrats know how to turn around economies after Republicans get them into recessions. Funny that.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

But they have as much credibility.... Quacks and sellouts to the oil industry.

I trust them more than I trust the quacks that bow to your overlords in the federal government. You are too blind to understand that Democrats want to take over industries like energy and healthcare so they can have complete control of us. They could give a shit less about the environment when they are flying around on private planes, attending doings in limo's or SUV's. They elected a Speaker of the House that lives on the exact opposite side of the country.

Only a problem to you. Yeah, if you have bad management, you won't get much work out of people if they belong to a union or not. I've worked for companies where management thought they could fire their way to better employees. First job I had out of the Army. In the four years I worked there, we fired or lost 96 employees out of a staff that never exceeded 30. My favorite was the girl who quit after four hours of seeing how toxic the office was.

That company closed down the Chicago branch and was out of business in a year. Sometimes there is Karma.

At least they didn't have to get bailed out by taxpayers, now did they?

The difference between you and I is that I have lots of experience dealing with union and non-union companies alike. I'm willing to bet you never stepped into a UAW auto plant. I could write a book on the antics of past unions and why they ruined industry in this country.

If I had a pickup or delivery at a company I knew nothing about, I could tell you within five minutes if they were union or not. It's virtually impossible to get fired at a company that has a strong union. The workers are well aware of that, so that's why they put no effort into getting work done. So when companies move out of state or country, not only do they save a ton of money by not paying union wages, but they get twice the productivity at the same time.

Well, yeah, you do, they are being paid to workers in Japan, where they have fantastic benefits. Since most of those factories have only been around since the 1980's, they are going to have the same pension issues soon enough.

In the US, foreign auto companies don't have unions, Overseas, their unions are nothing like ours. If you read that link I provided, you would understand that by now.

Yes, they do have pensions, but they don't retire in their early 50's and get paid to sit home for the next 30 or 40 years.

Again, we can make the lives of the rich pretty miserable. They wouldn't spend as much money buying the GOP if they weren't paying those taxes.

Funny thing. They scream like little bitches when the Democrats make them pay their fair share, but they get rich when Dems are in charge because Democrats know how to turn around economies after Republicans get them into recessions. Funny that.

This is the best economy we've had in decades. More people working today than ever before. And it was because of a Republican President and Congress that kicked it off.

You are such a fool to believe that rich people give only to Republicans. The wealthiest people in the country are leftists like Buffett, Gates, Zuckerberg, Stewart. But the Democrats brainwash you into believing they only get financial support from the little people.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Wow...you really have a problem....we are talking about hunger in America and you go back to talking about the penis........... you need help joe.....it isn't just that guns remind you of the male sex organ, everything seems to remind you of the male sex organ....get help.

Naw, man, you should be proud of your shortcomings... the little fellow is so lonely, that you spend so much time stroking your guns.

The hilarious thing is that you support a system that creates such stark inequality, and then feel you need enough guns to fight off the zombies to protect yourself from it... that's kind of sad.

Actually the reason we need our guns is because of Democrats. Democrats are very intolerant and violent people.

So Democrats scare you when you go out.

Of course they do.

If I go to my convenience store at night, I'm not worried about a Republican coming in and robbing the place; hitting me over the head to take my wallet. Republicans don't do those kinds of things. Or if I need to go to my ATM at night. I'm not worried about a conservative wedging himself between the machine and my car, forcing me to withdraw as much money as the machine is allowed. Conservatives don't do those kinds of things.

You see, if we ever wanted a society with no guns, the only possible way to do that is if we get rid of Democrats first. Because Democrats are why we need guns in the US. But since we can't do that (Lord knows we've tried) we need to be armed in places where Democrats dwell.

 

[JoeB131]

At least they didn't have to get bailed out by taxpayers, now did they?

The difference between you and I is that I have lots of experience dealing with union and non-union companies alike. I'm willing to bet you never stepped into a UAW auto plant. I could write a book on the antics of past unions and why they ruined industry in this country.

You could title it, "Jealousy: Those Guys got good benefits, and I'm driving a truck for a Bottom Feeder"

f I had a pickup or delivery at a company I knew nothing about, I could tell you within five minutes if they were union or not. It's virtually impossible to get fired at a company that has a strong union.

And this is a GOOD thing. It should be next to impossible to fire an employee. I've seen so much shit with asshole bosses firing people for bullshit reasons... I'm all for stronger workers rights.

In the US, foreign auto companies don't have unions, Overseas, their unions are nothing like ours. If you read that link I provided, you would understand that by now.

Um, yeah, I don't read your links because they are bullshit. German and Japanese unions are BETTER than ours. They have more power. They have larger percentages of their workers unionized. They have a say in management.

You see, what happened was, when those New Dealers went to Germany and Japan after WWII, they were able to do all the things that the Republicans kept them from doing in the US.

This is the best economy we've had in decades. More people working today than ever before. And it was because of a Republican President and Congress that kicked it off.

Uh, no, the economy was better in the 90's and in the 80's. Nowhere near what we had in the 60's. If the economy was so fucking awesome,why do we have so many people still working two jobs?

About 13M U.S. Workers Have More Than One Job

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

ou could title it, "Jealousy: Those Guys got good benefits, and I'm driving a truck for a Bottom Feeder"

A better title would be how unions chased millions of jobs out of the country.

And this is a GOOD thing. It should be next to impossible to fire an employee. I've seen so much shit with asshole bosses firing people for bullshit reasons... I'm all for stronger workers rights.

And I've seen asshole workers who couldn't get fired because of their union. If you do good work and a good job, you don't need a union to protect you from anything. Employers value good and productive workers. There is no other reason to get rid of them unless they are a giant pain in the ass.

Uh, no, the economy was better in the 90's and in the 80's. Nowhere near what we had in the 60's. If the economy was so fucking awesome,why do we have so many people still working two jobs?

About 13M U.S. Workers Have More Than One Job

It's bad enough you don't read my links, but now you don't read your own? It's right there in the first paragraph:

A small but steady number of American workers have more than one job, because either they need extra income or they want to gain more experience or explore different interests.

It also notes that people who work more than one job are often teachers (who don't work all summer and pickup a job for the season) and healthcare workers who make pretty reasonable money.

A lifelong friend and coworker of mine has two jobs. He wanted a stay at home wife to raise their family of five. The kids are all grown now and he has no real need for a second job, but he likes the income.

 

[2aguy]

ou could title it, "Jealousy: Those Guys got good benefits, and I'm driving a truck for a Bottom Feeder"

A better title would be how unions chased millions of jobs out of the country.

And this is a GOOD thing. It should be next to impossible to fire an employee. I've seen so much shit with asshole bosses firing people for bullshit reasons... I'm all for stronger workers rights.

And I've seen asshole workers who couldn't get fired because of their union. If you do good work and a good job, you don't need a union to protect you from anything. Employers value good and productive workers. There is no other reason to get rid of them unless they are a giant pain in the ass.

Uh, no, the economy was better in the 90's and in the 80's. Nowhere near what we had in the 60's. If the economy was so fucking awesome,why do we have so many people still working two jobs?

About 13M U.S. Workers Have More Than One Job

It's bad enough you don't read my links, but now you don't read your own? It's right there in the first paragraph:

A small but steady number of American workers have more than one job, because either they need extra income or they want to gain more experience or explore different interests.

It also notes that people who work more than one job are often teachers (who don't work all summer and pickup a job for the season) and healthcare workers who make pretty reasonable money.

A lifelong friend and coworker of mine has two jobs. He wanted a stay at home wife to raise their family of five. The kids are all grown now and he has no real need for a second job, but he likes the income.

And if taxes were lower....then families could survive on one income...which is another reason democrats keep raising taxes on the middle class...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

ou could title it, "Jealousy: Those Guys got good benefits, and I'm driving a truck for a Bottom Feeder"

A better title would be how unions chased millions of jobs out of the country.

And this is a GOOD thing. It should be next to impossible to fire an employee. I've seen so much shit with asshole bosses firing people for bullshit reasons... I'm all for stronger workers rights.

And I've seen asshole workers who couldn't get fired because of their union. If you do good work and a good job, you don't need a union to protect you from anything. Employers value good and productive workers. There is no other reason to get rid of them unless they are a giant pain in the ass.

Uh, no, the economy was better in the 90's and in the 80's. Nowhere near what we had in the 60's. If the economy was so fucking awesome,why do we have so many people still working two jobs?

About 13M U.S. Workers Have More Than One Job

It's bad enough you don't read my links, but now you don't read your own? It's right there in the first paragraph:

A small but steady number of American workers have more than one job, because either they need extra income or they want to gain more experience or explore different interests.

It also notes that people who work more than one job are often teachers (who don't work all summer and pickup a job for the season) and healthcare workers who make pretty reasonable money.

A lifelong friend and coworker of mine has two jobs. He wanted a stay at home wife to raise their family of five. The kids are all grown now and he has no real need for a second job, but he likes the income.

And if taxes were lower....then families could survive on one income...which is another reason democrats keep raising taxes on the middle class...

There are a lot of reasons single income is not nearly the norm as it used to be. Look at all the money we spend on toys that we didn't back in the 60's and 70's. When I was a kid, we had a color television set with rabbit ears, a stereo with an 8-track player, one landline phone, and like most people, a single-car family.

Today my 88 year old father has to laugh. He paid more for our mortgage back then than he does his cell phone today.

Looking at my property tax bill, I'm spending twice as much on that tax alone as when I bought the place 25 years ago. Prices go up because union teachers want more money, the people with kids wanted new schools that ran us a couple of million bucks, and labor to perform the other city services increased as well.

So it's not a question of survival compared to yesteryear, it's a question of do we live a better life with more convenience and entertainment than we ever had before. I mean my goodness, even our poor have cell phones and gamble on lottery tickets these days.

 

[JoeB131]

And I've seen asshole workers who couldn't get fired because of their union. If you do good work and a good job, you don't need a union to protect you from anything.

Bullshit.

Again- after six years, I got axed from a job because I had medical issues. At another job, I got let go because some entitled punk didn't like the tone of an email. I've seen people fired for being gay, because a boss wanted to create a job for a drinking buddy, for being too old, I've seen it all. Fuck employers, they all deserve unions and government bureaucrats ready to break their fucking kneecaps.

Employers value good and productive workers. There is no other reason to get rid of them unless they are a giant pain in the ass.

Well, I'm sure you bend over for whatever abuse you want to take up the ass.

A small but steady number of American workers have more than one job, because either they need extra income or they want to gain more experience or explore different interests.

It also notes that people who work more than one job are often teachers (who don't work all summer and pickup a job for the season) and healthcare workers who make pretty reasonable money.

Hey, fuckhead. THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORK A SECOND JOB BECAUSE THEY NEED EXTRA INCOME!!!!

So it's not a question of survival compared to yesteryear, it's a question of do we live a better life with more convenience and entertainment than we ever had before. I mean my goodness, even our poor have cell phones and gamble on lottery tickets these days.

Buddy, cell phones don't cost that much and poor folks gamble because they are desperate and bad at math. I'd abolish the lottery, it's a stealth tax on poor people.

 

[JoeB131]

And if taxes were lower....then families could survive on one income...which is another reason democrats keep raising taxes on the middle class...

Actually, we need to raise taxes on rich people... but you guys get upset with that.

The shifting of the tax burden from the rich to the middle class happened under that senile old fuck, Reagan.