Oklahoma state house approves life begins at conception curriculum

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Pro-lifers love their position because they get to base it purely on emotion without any regard to logic and reason.

...or facts of Constitutional law.

 

[CowboyTed]

First trimester embryo does not have a brain capable of thought, hence no concept of what is happening to it.

Has absolutely nothing to do with the act of murder.

Actually, it does. Because if it is not a human being, then it is not murder.

I state that a first trimester embryo is not a human being because it is physically incapable of having thought or consciousness. Therefore, it is not murder.

People in comas have no thoughts either that we are aware of. A lot of folks get knocked unconscious. I am fully aware of what you are attempting to do here but you must realize that embryo is a life whether you want to admit it or not.

It is a life but not a human being.

The first trimester embryo is incapable of thought and consciousness. People in comas or unconscious are not incapable of thought and consciousness, they have only been made unconscious by something. The embryo in contrast has never developed the capability of consciousness or thought.

An embryo in the first trimester is not a human being, and therefore killing it is not murder.

All you are is simply another blood-thirsty murdering idiot with zero moral character. There is no excuse for abortion in 2016. If it is a life but not a human life what is it? A chicken?

So you must want to ban IVF as well...

Lets give you the numbers... Each IVF cycle usually harvests at least 4 eggs and fertilize them. there is about 200,000 cycles per year in US and they are way behind the rest of the first world.

So there probably more conceived eggs dumped due to IVF than abortion...

Now you can tell the 5+ million people born due to IVF as killer babies....

 

[Davros]

Actually, it does. Because if it is not a human being, then it is not murder.

I state that a first trimester embryo is not a human being because it is physically incapable of having thought or consciousness. Therefore, it is not murder.

People in comas have no thoughts either that we are aware of. A lot of folks get knocked unconscious. I am fully aware of what you are attempting to do here but you must realize that embryo is a life whether you want to admit it or not.

It is a life but not a human being.

The first trimester embryo is incapable of thought and consciousness. People in comas or unconscious are not incapable of thought and consciousness, they have only been made unconscious by something. The embryo in contrast has never developed the capability of consciousness or thought.

An embryo in the first trimester is not a human being, and therefore killing it is not murder.

All you are is simply another blood-thirsty murdering idiot with zero moral character. There is no excuse for abortion in 2016. If it is a life but not a human life what is it? A chicken?

It is human life, same as a Sperm or egg or stem cell. But it is not a human being. A human being must be capable of thought. A human body with out a human brain is no more human than a mannequin.

Seems you need to be educated by the ne Oklahoma curriculum on fetal development! If taught honestly, students would learn that a first trimester embryo is still a primitive mass of cells without any of the brain functionality necessary to be declared a member of humanity.

Seems you need to get down on your knees and ask for a soul.

If I have no soul, then I have nothing to fear from your murderous God in the afterlife.

Yes this is a God that you worship despite the fact that he (your words here) "murders" millions of "human babies" every year with all his first trimester miscarriages.

Seems to me your murderous God needs to beg the Almighty You to give Him a soul.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Here. This should be better than sex for you murderers:

You still have refused to answer what the sentence should be for women guilty of abortion. If it's murder, it should be life in prison or the death penalty, right? Even if they abort a severely deformed case that had a very low chance of surviving more than a day after birth, right? PUT THAT MURDERESS TO DEATH!!!!

Pro-lifers love their position because they get to base it purely on emotion without any regard to logic and reason.

Actually, we base it upon human decency and moral standards.

Putting women to death for using the morning after pill is not human decency.

 

[Preacher]

Oklahoma State House Approves ‘Life Begins at Conception’ Curriculum for Schools - Breitbart

Sure the pro baby killers and cultural marxists will HATE this. I think its wonderful.Its like science it can't be denied. Therefore no one should be excused from it.

Because for conservatives brainwashing should begin at birth.

Science. Learn it. Oh and this is coming from someone who has no problem with boys thinking they are girls and girls thinking they are boys. So save the faux outrage.

 

[Davros]

Has absolutely nothing to do with the act of murder.

Actually, it does. Because if it is not a human being, then it is not murder.

I state that a first trimester embryo is not a human being because it is physically incapable of having thought or consciousness. Therefore, it is not murder.

People in comas have no thoughts either that we are aware of. A lot of folks get knocked unconscious. I am fully aware of what you are attempting to do here but you must realize that embryo is a life whether you want to admit it or not.

It is a life but not a human being.

The first trimester embryo is incapable of thought and consciousness. People in comas or unconscious are not incapable of thought and consciousness, they have only been made unconscious by something. The embryo in contrast has never developed the capability of consciousness or thought.

An embryo in the first trimester is not a human being, and therefore killing it is not murder.

All you are is simply another blood-thirsty murdering idiot with zero moral character. There is no excuse for abortion in 2016. If it is a life but not a human life what is it? A chicken?

So you must want to ban IVF as well...

Lets give you the numbers... Each IVF cycle usually harvests at least 4 eggs and fertilize them. there is about 200,000 cycles per year in US and they are way behind the rest of the first world.

So there probably more conceived eggs dumped due to IVF than abortion...

Now you can tell the 5+ million people born due to IVF as killer babies....

Murderers! Abort them all!

 

[Davros]

Here. This should be better than sex for you murderers:

You still have refused to answer what the sentence should be for women guilty of abortion. If it's murder, it should be life in prison or the death penalty, right? Even if they abort a severely deformed case that had a very low chance of surviving more than a day after birth, right? PUT THAT MURDERESS TO DEATH!!!!

Pro-lifers love their position because they get to base it purely on emotion without any regard to logic and reason.

Actually, we base it upon human decency and moral standards.

Putting women to death for using the morning after pill is not human decency.

I miss his gollum avatar. Seemed more appropriate.

 

[NYcarbineer]

People in comas have no thoughts either that we are aware of. A lot of folks get knocked unconscious. I am fully aware of what you are attempting to do here but you must realize that embryo is a life whether you want to admit it or not.

It is a life but not a human being.

The first trimester embryo is incapable of thought and consciousness. People in comas or unconscious are not incapable of thought and consciousness, they have only been made unconscious by something. The embryo in contrast has never developed the capability of consciousness or thought.

An embryo in the first trimester is not a human being, and therefore killing it is not murder.

All you are is simply another blood-thirsty murdering idiot with zero moral character. There is no excuse for abortion in 2016. If it is a life but not a human life what is it? A chicken?

It is human life, same as a Sperm or egg or stem cell. But it is not a human being. A human being must be capable of thought. A human body with out a human brain is no more human than a mannequin.

Seems you need to be educated by the ne Oklahoma curriculum on fetal development! If taught honestly, students would learn that a first trimester embryo is still a primitive mass of cells without any of the brain functionality necessary to be declared a member of humanity.

Seems you need to get down on your knees and ask for a soul.

If I have no soul, then I have nothing to fear from your murderous God in the afterlife.

Yes this is a God that you worship despite the fact that he (your words here) "murders" millions of "human babies" every year with all his first trimester miscarriages.

Seems to me your murderous God needs to beg the Almighty You to give Him a soul.

Whether or not there is a God is a guess. Even if you guess there is and you're right,

whether or not that God opposes abortion is just one more guess.

People who insist God opposes abortion are simply people who are insisting that you accept - without any supporting evidence - that they have guessed right,

twice.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Here. This should be better than sex for you murderers:

You still have refused to answer what the sentence should be for women guilty of abortion. If it's murder, it should be life in prison or the death penalty, right? Even if they abort a severely deformed case that had a very low chance of surviving more than a day after birth, right? PUT THAT MURDERESS TO DEATH!!!!

Pro-lifers love their position because they get to base it purely on emotion without any regard to logic and reason.

Actually, we base it upon human decency and moral standards.

Whatever you base it on doesn't give you license to deny women their right to privacy by seeking to 'ban' abortion, which only increases the size and authority of government at the expense of individual liberty.

If you believe abortion is wrong then find a way to end the practice that comports with the Constitution and its case law.

 

[the_human_being]

Whatever the penalty is for premeditated murder in the state the offense occurs. Look let's get down to where the rubber meets the road. Pregnancy is not a disease or a sickness. Pregnancy is both easily and affordably preventable especially in this day and age. What you are simply doing is excusing an irresponsible act.

In every state, the penalty varies based on circumstances. Are there any circumstances where a woman guilty of a first trimester abortion should be put to death?

What did I plainly state dipshit? If a jury of her peers finds her guilty and the judge passes the death sentence onto her, then the law would have been served. How much clearer do I have to make it for you?

So for killing an entity incapable of feeling, thought, consciousness --- all of what is considered essential attributes of humanity --- you would allow the state to put to death a living, breathing, thinking, feeling human being. And you say you are driven by morality and character. Far from it! You are driven by sickness.

So let me get this straight. You wish to use the law to justify the murder of a human baby but not allow me to abide by the laws each state has in place to deal with criminals. Got it. Typical Liberal mindset.

I support the death penalty for crimes that are worthy of it. Aborting a mass of cells without any capability of thought, consciousness, feeling of pain, any mental functionality remotely human does not even deserve a day in jail. Such mass of cells is categorically not a human baby.

You justify it anyway you wish. The fact is that were these women to take a little very affordable precaution and responsibility we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

 

[the_human_being]

It is a life but not a human being.

The first trimester embryo is incapable of thought and consciousness. People in comas or unconscious are not incapable of thought and consciousness, they have only been made unconscious by something. The embryo in contrast has never developed the capability of consciousness or thought.

An embryo in the first trimester is not a human being, and therefore killing it is not murder.

All you are is simply another blood-thirsty murdering idiot with zero moral character. There is no excuse for abortion in 2016. If it is a life but not a human life what is it? A chicken?

It is human life, same as a Sperm or egg or stem cell. But it is not a human being. A human being must be capable of thought. A human body with out a human brain is no more human than a mannequin.

Seems you need to be educated by the ne Oklahoma curriculum on fetal development! If taught honestly, students would learn that a first trimester embryo is still a primitive mass of cells without any of the brain functionality necessary to be declared a member of humanity.

Seems you need to get down on your knees and ask for a soul.

If I have no soul, then I have nothing to fear from your murderous God in the afterlife.

Yes this is a God that you worship despite the fact that he (your words here) "murders" millions of "human babies" every year with all his first trimester miscarriages.

Seems to me your murderous God needs to beg the Almighty You to give Him a soul.

Whether or not there is a God is a guess. Even if you guess there is and you're right,

whether or not that God opposes abortion is just one more guess.

People who insist God opposes abortion are simply people who are insisting that you accept - without any supporting evidence - that they have guessed right,

twice.

That is up to you whether to believe or not to believe. Your personal faith or lack thereof is not my responsibility.

 

[the_human_being]

Here. This should be better than sex for you murderers:

You still have refused to answer what the sentence should be for women guilty of abortion. If it's murder, it should be life in prison or the death penalty, right? Even if they abort a severely deformed case that had a very low chance of surviving more than a day after birth, right? PUT THAT MURDERESS TO DEATH!!!!

Pro-lifers love their position because they get to base it purely on emotion without any regard to logic and reason.

Actually, we base it upon human decency and moral standards.

Whatever you base it on doesn't give you license to deny women their right to privacy by seeking to 'ban' abortion, which only increases the size and authority of government at the expense of individual liberty.

If you believe abortion is wrong then find a way to end the practice that comports with the Constitution and its case law.

That's real deep. How can we deny women anything at all? You are uneducated.

 

[Davros]

In every state, the penalty varies based on circumstances. Are there any circumstances where a woman guilty of a first trimester abortion should be put to death?

What did I plainly state dipshit? If a jury of her peers finds her guilty and the judge passes the death sentence onto her, then the law would have been served. How much clearer do I have to make it for you?

So for killing an entity incapable of feeling, thought, consciousness --- all of what is considered essential attributes of humanity --- you would allow the state to put to death a living, breathing, thinking, feeling human being. And you say you are driven by morality and character. Far from it! You are driven by sickness.

So let me get this straight. You wish to use the law to justify the murder of a human baby but not allow me to abide by the laws each state has in place to deal with criminals. Got it. Typical Liberal mindset.

I support the death penalty for crimes that are worthy of it. Aborting a mass of cells without any capability of thought, consciousness, feeling of pain, any mental functionality remotely human does not even deserve a day in jail. Such mass of cells is categorically not a human baby.

You justify it anyway you wish. The fact is that were these women to take a little very affordable precaution and responsibility we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

You realize that birth control fails at times, right?

 

[the_human_being]

People in comas have no thoughts either that we are aware of. A lot of folks get knocked unconscious. I am fully aware of what you are attempting to do here but you must realize that embryo is a life whether you want to admit it or not.

It is a life but not a human being.

The first trimester embryo is incapable of thought and consciousness. People in comas or unconscious are not incapable of thought and consciousness, they have only been made unconscious by something. The embryo in contrast has never developed the capability of consciousness or thought.

An embryo in the first trimester is not a human being, and therefore killing it is not murder.

All you are is simply another blood-thirsty murdering idiot with zero moral character. There is no excuse for abortion in 2016. If it is a life but not a human life what is it? A chicken?

It is human life, same as a Sperm or egg or stem cell. But it is not a human being. A human being must be capable of thought. A human body with out a human brain is no more human than a mannequin.

Seems you need to be educated by the ne Oklahoma curriculum on fetal development! If taught honestly, students would learn that a first trimester embryo is still a primitive mass of cells without any of the brain functionality necessary to be declared a member of humanity.

Seems you need to get down on your knees and ask for a soul.

If I have no soul, then I have nothing to fear from your murderous God in the afterlife.

Yes this is a God that you worship despite the fact that he (your words here) "murders" millions of "human babies" every year with all his first trimester miscarriages.

Seems to me your murderous God needs to beg the Almighty You to give Him a soul.

You can present your case directly to Him. Be patient.

 

[the_human_being]

What did I plainly state dipshit? If a jury of her peers finds her guilty and the judge passes the death sentence onto her, then the law would have been served. How much clearer do I have to make it for you?

So for killing an entity incapable of feeling, thought, consciousness --- all of what is considered essential attributes of humanity --- you would allow the state to put to death a living, breathing, thinking, feeling human being. And you say you are driven by morality and character. Far from it! You are driven by sickness.

So let me get this straight. You wish to use the law to justify the murder of a human baby but not allow me to abide by the laws each state has in place to deal with criminals. Got it. Typical Liberal mindset.

I support the death penalty for crimes that are worthy of it. Aborting a mass of cells without any capability of thought, consciousness, feeling of pain, any mental functionality remotely human does not even deserve a day in jail. Such mass of cells is categorically not a human baby.

You justify it anyway you wish. The fact is that were these women to take a little very affordable precaution and responsibility we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

You realize that birth control fails at times, right?

Never has for me but you continue to make every excuse you can to justify the murders, all of which could be prevented very affordably. It ain't rocket science.

 

[NYcarbineer]

All you are is simply another blood-thirsty murdering idiot with zero moral character. There is no excuse for abortion in 2016. If it is a life but not a human life what is it? A chicken?

It is human life, same as a Sperm or egg or stem cell. But it is not a human being. A human being must be capable of thought. A human body with out a human brain is no more human than a mannequin.

Seems you need to be educated by the ne Oklahoma curriculum on fetal development! If taught honestly, students would learn that a first trimester embryo is still a primitive mass of cells without any of the brain functionality necessary to be declared a member of humanity.

Seems you need to get down on your knees and ask for a soul.

If I have no soul, then I have nothing to fear from your murderous God in the afterlife.

Yes this is a God that you worship despite the fact that he (your words here) "murders" millions of "human babies" every year with all his first trimester miscarriages.

Seems to me your murderous God needs to beg the Almighty You to give Him a soul.

Whether or not there is a God is a guess. Even if you guess there is and you're right,

whether or not that God opposes abortion is just one more guess.

People who insist God opposes abortion are simply people who are insisting that you accept - without any supporting evidence - that they have guessed right,

twice.

That is up to you whether to believe or not to believe. Your personal faith or lack thereof is not my responsibility.

Your responsibility is to obey secular law or suffer the consequences.

You may have faith that tells you abortion is murder, but you sure as hell don't have the courage of your faith to go to prison by breaking secular laws to honor your faith.

In short, you're a blowhard.

 

[bodecea]

Oklahoma State House Approves ‘Life Begins at Conception’ Curriculum for Schools - Breitbart

Sure the pro baby killers and cultural marxists will HATE this. I think its wonderful.Its like science it can't be denied. Therefore no one should be excused from it.

Good...no pregnant women driving due to laws about 2 behind the wheel...charge a pregnant woman double for meals at restaurants, movies, airline tickets....and do criminal investigations on any miscarriage.

 

[the_human_being]

It is human life, same as a Sperm or egg or stem cell. But it is not a human being. A human being must be capable of thought. A human body with out a human brain is no more human than a mannequin.

Seems you need to be educated by the ne Oklahoma curriculum on fetal development! If taught honestly, students would learn that a first trimester embryo is still a primitive mass of cells without any of the brain functionality necessary to be declared a member of humanity.

Seems you need to get down on your knees and ask for a soul.

If I have no soul, then I have nothing to fear from your murderous God in the afterlife.

Yes this is a God that you worship despite the fact that he (your words here) "murders" millions of "human babies" every year with all his first trimester miscarriages.

Seems to me your murderous God needs to beg the Almighty You to give Him a soul.

Whether or not there is a God is a guess. Even if you guess there is and you're right,

whether or not that God opposes abortion is just one more guess.

People who insist God opposes abortion are simply people who are insisting that you accept - without any supporting evidence - that they have guessed right,

twice.

That is up to you whether to believe or not to believe. Your personal faith or lack thereof is not my responsibility.

Your responsibility is to obey secular law or suffer the consequences.

You may have faith that tells you abortion is murder, but you sure as hell don't have the courage of your faith to go to prison by breaking secular laws to honor your faith.

In short, you're a blowhard.

No. I'm not the one having the abortion nor the one performing the abortion. I see drunks and drug addicts and I don't contribute to getting them drinks or drugs either.

 

[Davros]

It is a life but not a human being.

The first trimester embryo is incapable of thought and consciousness. People in comas or unconscious are not incapable of thought and consciousness, they have only been made unconscious by something. The embryo in contrast has never developed the capability of consciousness or thought.

An embryo in the first trimester is not a human being, and therefore killing it is not murder.

All you are is simply another blood-thirsty murdering idiot with zero moral character. There is no excuse for abortion in 2016. If it is a life but not a human life what is it? A chicken?

It is human life, same as a Sperm or egg or stem cell. But it is not a human being. A human being must be capable of thought. A human body with out a human brain is no more human than a mannequin.

Seems you need to be educated by the ne Oklahoma curriculum on fetal development! If taught honestly, students would learn that a first trimester embryo is still a primitive mass of cells without any of the brain functionality necessary to be declared a member of humanity.

Seems you need to get down on your knees and ask for a soul.

If I have no soul, then I have nothing to fear from your murderous God in the afterlife.

Yes this is a God that you worship despite the fact that he (your words here) "murders" millions of "human babies" every year with all his first trimester miscarriages.

Seems to me your murderous God needs to beg the Almighty You to give Him a soul.

You can present your case directly to Him. Be patient.

How would I do that? You said I have no Soul. Hence when I die, that must be it. No meet my maker part and all that.

 

[the_human_being]

All you are is simply another blood-thirsty murdering idiot with zero moral character. There is no excuse for abortion in 2016. If it is a life but not a human life what is it? A chicken?

It is human life, same as a Sperm or egg or stem cell. But it is not a human being. A human being must be capable of thought. A human body with out a human brain is no more human than a mannequin.

Seems you need to be educated by the ne Oklahoma curriculum on fetal development! If taught honestly, students would learn that a first trimester embryo is still a primitive mass of cells without any of the brain functionality necessary to be declared a member of humanity.

Seems you need to get down on your knees and ask for a soul.

If I have no soul, then I have nothing to fear from your murderous God in the afterlife.

Yes this is a God that you worship despite the fact that he (your words here) "murders" millions of "human babies" every year with all his first trimester miscarriages.

Seems to me your murderous God needs to beg the Almighty You to give Him a soul.

You can present your case directly to Him. Be patient.

How would I do that? You said I have no Soul. Hence when I die, that must be it. No meet my maker part and all that.

You will still be flesh and blood when you stand before Him. Don't worry about it, you'll have your platform from which to criticize Him. For a few moments anyway.