Once again pointing out the elephant in the room

Yes, I been reading your whines about how sad you are that you're a failure. You can't build a coalition to push your agenda. So you think we ought to defer to you, so you can simply establish a new government by decree.

These are the words of a man caught by the throat.

Stop insulting your own intelligence and get around to debating the facts. You are both in the wrong and intellectually incompetent, which is why you resort to childish attacks. The world simply does not have time for backwards socialist trash like you anymore.
 
bripat9643

I have noticed that every conversation with Ringel05 becomes a back and forth where he puts your intellectual honesty in question, which is ironic given it is obvious deflection from the arguments.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Should I tug on my non existent forelocks.......

You're intellectual honesty isn't in question, it's your intellectual dishonesty...... :thup:
 
Yes, I been reading your whines about how sad you are that you're a failure. You can't build a coalition to push your agenda. So you think we ought to defer to you, so you can simply establish a new government by decree.

These are the words of a man caught by the throat.

Stop insulting your own intelligence and get around to debating the facts. You are both in the wrong and intellectually incompetent, which is why you resort to childish attacks. The world simply does not have time for backwards socialist trash like you anymore.
You live in a world with others. You have failed to persuade others that your ideas are better.

You blame your failures on The Man.

Your anarchy ideas suck. That is why we don't find your ideas compelling. It has nothing to do with anything else.
 
You live in a world with others. You have failed to persuade others that your ideas are better.

I was not under the impression that I would convince a single person.

I came to kick your asses, and that is what I did. Argumentum ad populum will not change the reality of your own pitiful idiocy.

Your anarchy ideas suck.

Your statist and socialist ideas suck.

They are the cause of almost all wars, mass killings, riots, civil unrest, corruption, and economic decline.

That is why we don't find your ideas compelling. It has nothing to do with anything else.

No, it is because you are brainwashed tools that are going to die insignificant.
 
No, it is because you are brainwashed tools that are going to die insignificant.
That is a good way to spread the good news of anarchy. Tell people who are far more experienced, knowledgeable, and rational than you that they are brainwashed.
 
The lengths you go to avoiding an answer to a simple question are extraordinary.
Simple? You're the one who made it difficult and continues to make it difficult. :dunno:

How am I making it difficult? what could be easier than you explaining what you meant? How do you even imagine that I'm supposed to divine what you intended?
By actually reading what I said and not reading into what I said.........
I'll relent as you obviously haven't a clue.
I was pointing out the difference between socioeconomic models and reality (human application of those models), basically you said that only applied to socialist/communist systems. How are capitalist system models perfect? Are the people in those system God like? Not human? :dunno:
I asked you to explain it so I wouldn't have to read anything into what you said. If my interpretation is wrong, then your statement is nonsensical. You don't' want to explain it because you know it was idiotic.
Wrong. It was because I was trying to give you the opportunity to reread it and figure it out utilizing rational application. You refused so I simply gave you what you deserved, ridicule.

You're a coward who said something stupid and then ran away.

Who do you think you're fooling, douche bag?
 
It would occur to me that any group of people that wish to live in common will have the shared cost of that arrangement.

Call it taxes, fees or shared labor. It is simply sharing that cost.

So be it.

What "shared cost" is that?

Anything provided in common. Roads, police, fire, defense......
Why would we want to "provide them in common?" Why not people pay for whatever roads, fire protection or police protection they want? We already have hundreds of companies that provide each of these services.
 
No, it is because you are brainwashed tools that are going to die insignificant.
That is a good way to spread the good news of anarchy. Tell people who are far more experienced, knowledgeable, and rational than you that they are brainwashed.
And you think that's you?
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bripat9643

I have noticed that every conversation with Ringel05 becomes a back and forth where he puts your intellectual honesty in question, which is ironic given it is obvious deflection from the arguments.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Should I tug on my non existent forelocks.......

You're intellectual honesty isn't in question, it's your intellectual dishonesty...... :thup:
No one questions the fact that you're a lying douche bag.
 
Why would we want to "provide them in common?" Why not people pay for whatever roads, fire protection or police protection they want? We already have hundreds of companies that provide each of these services.
We will just kill you and your family and the mercenaries you might have hired, and then tax everyone else and build common roads.

How's that sound?

It will be like a brand new and massive gated community.
 
You live in a world with others. You have failed to persuade others that your ideas are better.

I was not under the impression that I would convince a single person.

I came to kick your asses, and that is what I did. Argumentum ad populum will not change the reality of your own pitiful idiocy.

Your anarchy ideas suck.

Your statist and socialist ideas suck.

They are the cause of almost all wars, mass killings, riots, civil unrest, corruption, and economic decline.

That is why we don't find your ideas compelling. It has nothing to do with anything else.

No, it is because you are brainwashed tools that are going to die insignificant.
This is the kind of shit you have to endure when you deal with internet morons who believe they are educated and smart when they are really as dumb as a tree stump.
 
Why would we want to "provide them in common?" Why not people pay for whatever roads, fire protection or police protection they want? We already have hundreds of companies that provide each of these services.
We will just kill you and your family and the mercenaries you might have hired, and then tax everyone else and build common roads.

How's that sound?

It will be like a brand new and massive gated community.

That sounds like the classic leftwing argument: kill everyone who disagrees with you.
 
That sounds like the classic leftwing argument: kill everyone who disagrees with you.
I was just digging the anarchy suggestion. And I'm not like Ghandi or MLK.

Who has time for that nonviolent shit?
 
A lot of times it's easier to accept a trite cliche than do the freaking work. Spooner may have been able to turn a slick phrase that resonates in low information minds but in reality he was an angry and perhaps incoherent hypocrite. Spooner wanted to form his own mail delivery service but the enterprise failed because the federal government assumed responsibility for the mail. He lived before the freaking IRS was even a thought and apparently he liked living in the greatest country in the world but he didn't like taxes. What people like Spooner forget is that the Founding Fathers created a system (for the first time in history) where the people can fire their leaders every two, four and seven years. The problem isn't taxes, it's the media which has become the propaganda arm of the democrat party and the people who instinctively want change but strangely enough are afraid of it when they really get a choice.

You mean the Postal Service had the government shut Spooner's mail service down, just as it does every competing mail service. How does that show hypocrisy on Spooner's part? All it does is show he was right to call the government a gang of thugs.

Of course he didn't like taxes. Thugs collect them by force, so what is there to like about them?

Whether we can vote a new gang of overseers every four years doesn't prove Spooner wrong. All that does is prove you're a idiot who buys into the social contract bullshit.

You didn't even make a stab at proving your point. All you did is vent your prejudices and bias into the forum.
 
And that falls apart the first time marauders who don't want to be part of your town come through, kill your family and take off

What if the economics of force are in favor of the civilized and not this hypothetical band of marauders"?

Nestor Mahkno led an anarchist army 100,000 strong. Pretty sure bandits were not a huge concern for Ukrainian anarchists.

I'm not talking about an army. Say it was four guys. So, you get home, your family is dead. Your move. So?

How many people were killed in Orlando despite the existence of our army?

Your post agrees with mine, so I'm not sure what you're looking for

So you live in Orlando, that has a national government, you get home and your family is dead. Your move. So?
 
Simple? You're the one who made it difficult and continues to make it difficult. :dunno:

How am I making it difficult? what could be easier than you explaining what you meant? How do you even imagine that I'm supposed to divine what you intended?
By actually reading what I said and not reading into what I said.........
I'll relent as you obviously haven't a clue.
I was pointing out the difference between socioeconomic models and reality (human application of those models), basically you said that only applied to socialist/communist systems. How are capitalist system models perfect? Are the people in those system God like? Not human? :dunno:
I asked you to explain it so I wouldn't have to read anything into what you said. If my interpretation is wrong, then your statement is nonsensical. You don't' want to explain it because you know it was idiotic.
Wrong. It was because I was trying to give you the opportunity to reread it and figure it out utilizing rational application. You refused so I simply gave you what you deserved, ridicule.

You're a coward who said something stupid and then ran away.

Who do you think you're fooling, douche bag?
Can't man up and admit you fucked up...... and continue to be stupid about it. Hey, no problem Sputz, we both know what you are. :thup:
 
bripat9643

I have noticed that every conversation with Ringel05 becomes a back and forth where he puts your intellectual honesty in question, which is ironic given it is obvious deflection from the arguments.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Should I tug on my non existent forelocks.......

You're intellectual honesty isn't in question, it's your intellectual dishonesty...... :thup:
No one questions the fact that you're a lying douche bag.
My my my, talk about being defensive....... I know high schoolers with more maturity than that..... :lol:
 

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