One Term Donnie

[LA RAM FAN]

LESSEE:

1. 1-Term Donnie.
2. Cowardly.
3. Stupid Cold-Blooded Killing.
4. Needlessly inflamed.
5. American will die.

Are you willing to lay down a bet he won't be reelected? What are you willing to put up?

Coward. Support that claim with facts, not emotions.

Cold-Blooded Killing. You mean like the hundreds of Americans the general killed that you were OK with?

Needlessly inflamed. Oh you mean we should have just left well enough alone like before when they were just trying to burn down our embassy, attack out ships, while chanting death to America?

Americans will die. Hey DUMBASS, Americans were already dying. Why don't you go lick some Ayatollah ass, since you seem to like it so much.

Yet another dumb fuck American totally clueless, thanks to consuming propaganda generated by billionaires and a criminal government.

PLEASE GET INFORMED...ASSHOLE!
The US Government Lies Constantly, And The Burden Of Proof Is On The Accuser
The US Government Lies Constantly, And The Burden Of Proof Is On The Accuser

In reality there’s no evidence for any of the reasons we’ve been offered for why Iran needed to be provoked into an almost inevitable retaliation that Trump is currently tweeting will result in all-out war:

• The claim that Soleimani posed an “imminent threat” is completely without evidence, rumored to be “razor thin“, and entirely debunked in this excellent essay by Craig Murray.
• Mike Pence’s claim that Soleimani assisted 9/11 terrorists is so ridiculous that even the war-loving Washington Post dismissed it.
• There’s no proof that Soleimani directed the strike that allegedly killed a US contractor, or that that contractor even existed.
• There’s no proof that Soleimani was involved in any “attack” on any US embassy, leaving aside the obvious fact that a little graffiti on the walls wouldn’t justify his assassination if he did.
• The “hundreds of American deaths” line you hear regurgitated by everyone from Trump to Elizabeth Warren actually refers to Iraqis defending themselves from an illegal US invasion with some training from Iran. The claim that Iran was behind Iraqi bombs is withoutevidence and wouldn’t matter if it were true; claiming the inhabitants of an invaded nation don’t have the right to defend themselves is absurd, regardless of where they got their weaponry.
• The claim that Soleimani was “a terrorist” is only made because the branch of the Iranian military he commanded was arbitrarily designated a terrorist organization by the US government last year, a designation that any foreign government could just as easily make for any branch of the US military. He was actually a fearsome enemy of ISIS and al-Qaeda and played a massive role in halting the spread of ISIS.

An attack may be deemed “imminent”, according to the Bethlehem Doctrine, even if you know no details of it or when it might occur. So you may be assassinated by a drone or bomb strike – and the doctrine was specifically developed to justify such strikes – because of “intelligence” you are engaged in a plot, when that intelligence neither says what the plot is nor when it might occur. Or even more tenuous, because there is intelligence you have engaged in a plot before, so it is reasonable to kill you in case you do so again.

Lies, the Bethlehem Doctrine, and the Illegal Murder of Soleimani - Craig Murray

He's been killing and plotting to kill Americans, for decades.
Fuck 'em.

That is complete bullshit, propaganda, and there is no proof of that.

In fact, all evidence is to the contrary. If you had a clue about the history of this guy, he is the moderate voice in Iran, has worked clandestinely with the U.S. before, and has always been patient in trying to get things done w/o blood shed.

Point of fact, the reason the US and Israelis knew his whereabouts? He was on a PEACE MISSION, trying to end the conflict between Yemen and Saudi Arabia. I know the War profiteers would have hated that. . .

Soleimani Was in Iraq on Peace Mission When US Assassinated Him, Trump Lied About “Imminent Attacks” – USSA News | The Tea Party's Front Page

Soleimani Was in Iraq on Peace Mission When US Assassinated Him, Trump Lied About "Imminent Attacks"

What drives the U.S. nuts, is he is better at asymmetrical warfare. To think the Iranians are going to stop, or that he didn't train his commanders in this type of warfare? Complete insanity.

Just because you label someone a "terrorist" does not make them one.

An interesting proposal, Mr. B., I just wish you had something more substantial for me to believe other than one fringe news source which sites reference to numerous sources yet does not link us to any of them other than one other fringe news site which seems to circuitously be the source for the first.

GreyZone is highly respected on the Indysites

Max Blumenthal (born December 18, 1977) is an American author, journalist, blogger, and filmmaker. He was awarded the 2014 Lannan Foundation Cultural Freedom Notable Book Award for his book Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel (2013).[1][2] Blumenthal has written for The New York Times, The Nation, and Al Jazeera English, among other publications.[3] He was formerly a writer for AlterNet,[4] The Daily Beast, Al Akhbar, and Media Matters for America,[5] and was selected as a Fellow of the Nation Institute.[6] Blumenthal established The Grayzone in 2015 and continues to edit and write for the website.[7]
Max Blumenthal - Wikipedia

The Trump administration claimed Iranian general Qasem Soleimani was planning “imminent attacks” on US interests when it assassinated him. That lie was just destroyed, but not before countless corporate media outlets transmitted it to the public.
Iraqi PM reveals Soleimani was on peace mission when assassinated, exploding Trump’s lie of ‘imminent attacks’
By Max Blumenthal

If you refuse to believe the truth now? You are just suffering from some major cognitive distress that refuses to let you see truth.

This is a source that Rush Limbaugh often uses;

Soleimani Was In Baghdad On Peace Mission To De-Escalate With Saudis: Report

by Tyler Durden
Mon, 01/06/2020 - 18:05
Soleimani Was In Baghdad On Peace Mission To De-Escalate With Saudis: Report

How about Ron Paul, he a liar too?

Iraqi PM reveals Soleimani was on peace mission when assassinated, exploding Trump’s lie of ‘imminent attacks’
Iraqi PM reveals Soleimani was on peace mission when assassinated, exploding Trump’s lie of ‘imminent attacks’

You so much handed the trump worshippers their asses to them on a platter.LOL

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Looks like little gipper is experiencing a meltdown.

Its only you brainwashed trump worshippers going into meltdown mode getting angry cause you cant refute anything he says.LOL

 

[LA RAM FAN]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

Look at some of the posts on this board since this attack.

Suddenly, many Trumpsters who had strangely turned into peaceniks the day he came down the escalator are back to the way they were when they were shouting for Bush to turn the Middle East into a parking lot. Overnight, literally.

This isn't about HIM. He's just a symptom. It's about THEM.
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Agreed. It’s sad that so many Americans cling to their chosen political party, rather than be true to themselves. The hypocrisy on the left and right couldn’t be more evident.

I hold out hope that there are enough thinking Americans who voted for him because of his anti-war pronouncements, will now withdraw their support and make him a one term potus.

best damn post on this thread of yours. except for where misterbeal took everybody to school in his first post of course.LOL

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Looks like little gipper is experiencing a meltdown.

Why do you say that? because he/she is questioning the veracity of the narrative being put forward by the apparatchiks of the state? or is it because he/she believes it will negatively impact Donny's prospects for re-election?

Let’s hope Americans vote out this warmonger in November. He has lost his mind.

Iran is not a threat to the homeland. Never has been. However, the Empire is a terrible threat to Iran and has been for decades. Donnie just escalated things needlessly.

David Stockman spells it out so well here, that even a devoted Trumper must take notice.



How the Donald Assassinated America First
By David Stockman

David Stockman's Contra Corner


Undoubtedly, things will now spiral out of control because the Iranian regime must and will retaliate for Soleimani’s death. Indeed, by vaporizing the latter, the Donald has now also vaporized any chance of actually implementing the “America First” policy upon which he ran, and which was the principal basis for his freakish elevation to the Oval Office.

The fact is, the only decent thing Obama did on the foreign policy front was the Iran Nuke Deal. Under the latter, Iran gave up a nuclear weapons capability it never had or wanted for the return of billions of escrowed dollars (which belong to Tehran in the first place), while putting itself in a straight-jacket of international inspections and controls that even Houdini could not have broken free from.

But the Donald wantonly shit-canned this arrangement, not because Iran violated either the letter or spirit of the deal, but because the neocons – led by his bubble-headed son-in-law and Bibi Netanyahu errand boy, Jared Kushner – blatantly lied to him about its alleged defects.

Indeed, the resulting Washington pivot to the current “maximum pressure” aggression against Iran is fast becoming the Empire most demented and shameful hour – even as it crystalizes like rarely before the difference between homeland defense and imperial aggression.

Under the former, not one American serviceman, contractor or civilian official would be in harms’ way because the ring of hostile bases surrounding Iran would not exist nor would Washington be waging economic warfare on what would otherwise be a prosperous 5 million barrel per day oil trade with the world.

Only empires put their citizens needlessly in harms’ way and thereby trap their leader’s into a cycle of violence which feeds upon itself.

The Donald is now yet another American president ensnared in the kind of tit-for-tat trap that is the modus operandi of Empire First.

How the Donald Assassinated America First - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

you totally took the trump worshippers to school.LOL

 

[LA RAM FAN]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

Watching your head explode is going to be amusing.

I guess you aren’t a free thinker. If only you were the exception. Sadly, there are way too many close minded non-thinkers on this forum.

The UNDERSTATMENT of the century. sheep liike him only see what they WANT to see,they dont deserve to exist in life.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Look at some of the posts on this board since this attack.

Suddenly, many Trumpsters who had strangely turned into peaceniks the day he came down the escalator are back to the way they were when they were shouting for Bush to turn the Middle East into a parking lot. Overnight, literally.

This isn't about HIM. He's just a symptom. It's about THEM.
.

Agreed. It’s sad that so many Americans cling to their chosen political party, rather than be true to themselves. The hypocrisy on the left and right couldn’t be more evident.

I hold out hope that there enough thinking Americans who voted for him because of his anti-war pronouncements, will now withdraw their support and make him a one term potus.

Have you noticed that those on the left and the right respond any differently when you tell them that they are no different from each other?

I’m use to being attacked by those on the left and right. Anyone who opposes their ignorance will be attacked.

Yes. I get that. You’ve made that clear.

My question references the nature of the attacks. Do you find any differences there?

Not really both sides are unhinged and their beliefs aren’t based on the facts.

When O was in office the left supported him unconditionally...now the right is doing the same thing with Dumb Don. I had hopes that those on the right weren’t as ignorant and hypocritical but here too, I was wrong.

yeah i never figured they were as stupid as them but wow we were wrong on that one huh.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I don’t know if Trump will get re-elected. But the killing of Soleimani certainly won’t hurt. The guy is responsible for the death of hundreds of Americans, and Americans like when the President is tough against terrorists.

The only caveat to that is if tensions escalate dramatically. Iran will retaliate. If we get into a full-blown shooting war, then Trump could be in trouble because the nation doesn’t want it. But I doubt that will happen.

Totally stupid and uninformed, but typical of the dumb American who gets all his information from the government and billionaires.

Please read and refute any of this.
The US Government Lies Constantly, And The Burden Of Proof Is On The Accuser
The US Government Lies Constantly, And The Burden Of Proof Is On The Accuser

In reality there’s no evidence for any of the reasons we’ve been offered for why Iran needed to be provoked into an almost inevitable retaliation that Trump is currently tweeting will result in all-out war:

• The claim that Soleimani posed an “imminent threat” is completely without evidence, rumored to be “razor thin“, and entirely debunked in this excellent essay by Craig Murray.
• Mike Pence’s claim that Soleimani assisted 9/11 terrorists is so ridiculous that even the war-loving Washington Post dismissed it.
• There’s no proof that Soleimani directed the strike that allegedly killed a US contractor, or that that contractor even existed.
• There’s no proof that Soleimani was involved in any “attack” on any US embassy, leaving aside the obvious fact that a little graffiti on the walls wouldn’t justify his assassination if he did.
• The “hundreds of American deaths” line you hear regurgitated by everyone from Trump to Elizabeth Warren actually refers to Iraqis defending themselves from an illegal US invasion with some training from Iran. The claim that Iran was behind Iraqi bombs is withoutevidence and wouldn’t matter if it were true; claiming the inhabitants of an invaded nation don’t have the right to defend themselves is absurd, regardless of where they got their weaponry.
• The claim that Soleimani was “a terrorist” is only made because the branch of the Iranian military he commanded was arbitrarily designated a terrorist organization by the US government last year, a designation that any foreign government could just as easily make for any branch of the US military. He was actually a fearsome enemy of ISIS and al-Qaeda and played a massive role in halting the spread of ISIS.

you’re going to post the ramblings of some unknown & more importantly uncredentialed blogger...got it

Refute them, rather than be an ignoramus.

he cant,he covers his ears and closes his eyes cause he CANT.lol

 

[LordBrownTrout]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

When did they change terms to 8 years long?

Jo

If you want four more years of this, you are a glutton for punishment.

Four more years of peace and no wars, economy cruising, lowest unemployment in decades. Yeah, I'll take that. Sure don't want to go back to the W and O years of never ending wars.

 

[2aguy]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

Boy, after yesterday this post looks really, really stupid..........

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Let’s hope Americans vote out this warmonger in November. He has lost his mind.

Don't count on it, like I said earlier George W. actually started a completely unnecessary war using fabricated justifications and easily cruised to re-election in 2004.

Also consider that Donny probably isn't the real warmonger in this case, the REAL warmongers aren't elected they're appointed "advisers", career bureaucrats, private "contractors" and creatures living in "think tanks". Thus the problem isn't the douche bag we choose to put in the oval office it's the SYSTEM that surrounds the oval office that is the real source of our propensity for war.

The Donald is now yet another American president ensnared in the kind of tit-for-tat trap that is the modus operandi of Empire First.

Stockman certainly hit the nail on the head; "Empire First" should be the the new national motto it's certainly far more apropos than "In God We Trust" , after all if we trusted in God we wouldn't need to go gallivanting around the globe murdering foreigners just to please the cabal of warmongering psychopaths that inhabit the Federal Government.

so very true,yeah the donald is just going what his masters tell him to in a long line of puppet presidents that span back to LBJ.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

Boy, after yesterday this post looks really, really stupid..........

so says the coward who cowardly keeps running off with his tail between is legs when taken to school by this post. below.

Lies, the Bethlehem Doctrine, and the Illegal Murder of Soleimani 636
Lies, the Bethlehem Doctrine, and the Illegal Murder of Soleimani - Craig Murray

". . . Let us now move on to the next lie, which is being widely repeated, this time originated by Donald Trump, that Soleimani was responsible for the “deaths of hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans”. This lie has been parroted by everybody, Republicans and Democrats alike.


Really? Who were they? When and where? While the Bethlehem Doctrine allows you to kill somebody because they might be going to attack someone, sometime, but you don’t know who or when, there is a reasonable expectation that if you are claiming people have already been killed you should be able to say who and when.


The truth of the matter is that if you take every American killed including and since 9/11, in the resultant Middle East related wars, conflicts and terrorist acts, well over 90% of them have been killed by Sunni Muslims financed and supported out of Saudi Arabia and its gulf satellites, and less than 10% of those Americans have been killed by Shia Muslims tied to Iran.. . ."

 

[gipper]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

Boy, after yesterday this post looks really, really stupid..........

LOL. Yesterday changes nothing for those of us who aren’t hypocrites.

 

[2aguy]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

Boy, after yesterday this post looks really, really stupid..........

so says the coward who cowardly keeps running off with his tail between is legs when taken to school by this post. below.

Lies, the Bethlehem Doctrine, and the Illegal Murder of Soleimani 636
Lies, the Bethlehem Doctrine, and the Illegal Murder of Soleimani - Craig Murray

". . . Let us now move on to the next lie, which is being widely repeated, this time originated by Donald Trump, that Soleimani was responsible for the “deaths of hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans”. This lie has been parroted by everybody, Republicans and Democrats alike.


Really? Who were they? When and where? While the Bethlehem Doctrine allows you to kill somebody because they might be going to attack someone, sometime, but you don’t know who or when, there is a reasonable expectation that if you are claiming people have already been killed you should be able to say who and when.


The truth of the matter is that if you take every American killed including and since 9/11, in the resultant Middle East related wars, conflicts and terrorist acts, well over 90% of them have been killed by Sunni Muslims financed and supported out of Saudi Arabia and its gulf satellites, and less than 10% of those Americans have been killed by Shia Muslims tied to Iran.. . ."

You guys are so funny when you aren't filling mass graves with innocent men, women and children......

 

[2aguy]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

Boy, after yesterday this post looks really, really stupid..........

LOL. Yesterday changes nothing for those of us who aren’t hypocrites.

Yes...your post was dumb, you don't understand Trump, you don't understand Iran, and you don't have any clue......

 

[gipper]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

When did they change terms to 8 years long?

Jo

If you want four more years of this, you are a glutton for punishment.

Four more years of peace and no wars, economy cruising, lowest unemployment in decades. Yeah, I'll take that. Sure don't want to go back to the W and O years of never ending wars.

That’s absurd. Donnie’s likely to do more cold blooded killing, and you will support it.

 

[gipper]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

Boy, after yesterday this post looks really, really stupid..........

LOL. Yesterday changes nothing for those of us who aren’t hypocrites.

Yes...your post was dumb, you don't understand Trump, you don't understand Iran, and you don't have any clue......

No, you are dumb. Sadly, you are so dumb you don’t know you’re dumb.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

Boy, after yesterday this post looks really, really stupid..........

LOL. Yesterday changes nothing for those of us who aren’t hypocrites.

Yes...your post was dumb, you don't understand Trump, you don't understand Iran, and you don't have any clue......

no YOU dont understand Iran,YOU are closed minded who only sees what he WANTS to see.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

When did they change terms to 8 years long?

Jo

If you want four more years of this, you are a glutton for punishment.

Four more years of peace and no wars, economy cruising, lowest unemployment in decades. Yeah, I'll take that. Sure don't want to go back to the W and O years of never ending wars.

That’s absurd. Donnie’s likely to do more cold blooded killing, and you will support it.

these stupid fuck motherfuckers worship him so much they dont care WHAT atrocities he commits,he could murder a baby right in front of their OWN eyes and they would STILL cheer him on.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

Boy, after yesterday this post looks really, really stupid..........

so says the coward who cowardly keeps running off with his tail between is legs when taken to school by this post. below.

Lies, the Bethlehem Doctrine, and the Illegal Murder of Soleimani 636
Lies, the Bethlehem Doctrine, and the Illegal Murder of Soleimani - Craig Murray

". . . Let us now move on to the next lie, which is being widely repeated, this time originated by Donald Trump, that Soleimani was responsible for the “deaths of hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans”. This lie has been parroted by everybody, Republicans and Democrats alike.


Really? Who were they? When and where? While the Bethlehem Doctrine allows you to kill somebody because they might be going to attack someone, sometime, but you don’t know who or when, there is a reasonable expectation that if you are claiming people have already been killed you should be able to say who and when.


The truth of the matter is that if you take every American killed including and since 9/11, in the resultant Middle East related wars, conflicts and terrorist acts, well over 90% of them have been killed by Sunni Muslims financed and supported out of Saudi Arabia and its gulf satellites, and less than 10% of those Americans have been killed by Shia Muslims tied to Iran.. . ."

You guys are so funny when you aren't filling mass graves with innocent men, women and children......

i rest my case,the coward runs off and evades evidence when he cant counter facts. glad this troll is not MY lawyer,he would lose EVERY case for me since he never addresses evidence.LOL
he cant refute facts given to him so he tries to laugh it off and pretend that information wasnt posted or there when getting checkmated,comedy gold,classic.

 

[gipper]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

When did they change terms to 8 years long?

Jo

If you want four more years of this, you are a glutton for punishment.

Four more years of peace and no wars, economy cruising, lowest unemployment in decades. Yeah, I'll take that. Sure don't want to go back to the W and O years of never ending wars.

That’s absurd. Donnie’s likely to do more cold blooded killing, and you will support it.

these stupid fuck motherfuckers worship him so much they dont care WHAT atrocities he commits,he could murder a baby right in front of their OWN eyes and they would STILL cheer him on.

It’s really unfortunate. They used to condemn Obama lovers for being cock sucking sycophants. Now they do the exact same thing with Dumb Don.

I really thought cons were more honest and intelligent than libs, but they are just as bad.