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Roudy, prepare to be very, very embarrassed. It is obvious you are again getting your info off bogus websites because you don't know much about it at all. I was there.
Yes, Joan, you were there.Roudy, prepare to be very, very embarrassed. It is obvious you are again getting your info off bogus websites because you don't know much about it at all. I was there.
Roudy, prepare to be very, very embarrassed. It is obvious you are again getting your info off bogus websites because you don't know much about it at all. I was there.
Well, Aris was there too. Who to believe, who to believe??? I think many of us will go with Aris.
Remember history: The 1976 Palestinian massacre of Christians
According to an eyewitness, the attack took place from the mountain behind the South Beirut. “It was an apocalypse,” said Father Mansour Labaky, a Christian Maronite priest who survived the massacre at Damour. “They were coming, thousands and thousands, shouting ‘Allahu Akbar! Let us attack them for the Arabs, let us offer a holocaust to Mohammad!’ And they were slaughtering everyone in their path, men, women and children.
Who came to help these Christians who were being slaughtered like chickens? The Europeans? The Americans? No, the Israelis. Lebanon continues to have Muslims problems and Hezbollah militants have a hold in the country and flare up attacks against Israel on a regular basis.
dead bodies piled up by Arafat and his fellow Palestinian animals, yup, never happened.
Notice the terrorist loving convert to Islam never acknowledges Palestinian savagery and always finds blame with the victims of Muslim barbarism.dead bodies piled up by Arafat and his fellow Palestinian animals, yup, never happened.
Yes, Damour happened, but it was a Lebanese action primarily. There was a quarter called Karentina (from "quarantine") that was poverty stricken people of several nationalities, mainly Lebanese but almost entirely Muslim. It was attacked and destroyed by Phalangists and other Christian groups. total massacre, way more dead than Damour by a long shot. Damour was taken partly in retribution and partly just to house the survivors of Karantina.
dead bodies piled up by Arafat and his fellow Palestinian animals, yup, never happened.
Yes, Damour happened, but it was a Lebanese action primarily. There was a quarter called Karentina (from "quarantine") that was poverty stricken people of several nationalities, mainly Lebanese but almost entirely Muslim. It was attacked and destroyed by Phalangists and other Christian groups. total massacre, way more dead than Damour by a long shot. Damour was taken partly in retribution and partly just to house the survivors of Karantina.
Although hesitant at first to take sides in the conflict, Arafat and Fatah played an important role in the Lebanese Civil War. Succumbing to pressure from PLO sub-groups such as the PFLP, DFLP and the Palestine Liberation Front (PLF), Arafat aligned the PLO with the Communist and Nasserist Lebanese National Movement (LNM). The LNM was led by Kamal Jumblatt, who had a friendly relationship with Arafat and other PLO leaders. Although originally aligned with Fatah, Syrian President Hafez al-Assad feared a loss of influence in Lebanon and switched sides. He sent his army, along with the Syrian-backed Palestinian factions of as-Sa'iqa and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC) led by Ahmad Jibril to fight alongside the radical right-wing Christian forces against the PLO and the LNM. The primary components of the Christian front were the Maronite Phalangists loyal to Bachir Gemayel and the Tigers Militia—which was led by Dany Chamoun, a son of former President Camille Chamoun.[60][/unquote]
The most definitely did NOT start the fighting.
Click on the link. Your attempts to whitewash Palestinian crimes and savagery on the Christians of Lebanon are futile.Roudy, I am glad you are finally attempting to contribute. The essay above, please tell me where it is from?
And by the al-Saiqa was a group of pro-Baathists, not really a Palestinian group. It was intended to take some of the wind out of the sails of authentic Palestinian resistance and deflect it toward Hafez al-Assad's regime.
I was the captain of the Lebanese football team and the president of the Lebanese Football federation. We went to the Olympic Games of 1936 in Berlin. And I saw then this discipline and order. And I said to myself: "Why can't we do the same thing in Lebanon?" So when we came back to Lebanon, we created this youth movement. When I was in Berlin then, Nazism did not have the reputation which it has now. Nazism? In every system in the world, you can find something good. But Nazism was not Nazism at all. The word came afterwards. In their system, I saw discipline. And we in the Middle East, we need discipline more than anything else.[7]
Part square dance, part ping pong tournament.
It was surreal to sit on the balcony having a drink or eating dinner and watch the rockets criss cross the night sky like fireworks.
Notice the terrorist loving convert to Islam never acknowledges Palestinian savagery and always finds blame with the victims of Muslim barbarism.dead bodies piled up by Arafat and his fellow Palestinian animals, yup, never happened.
Yes, Damour happened, but it was a Lebanese action primarily. There was a quarter called Karentina (from "quarantine") that was poverty stricken people of several nationalities, mainly Lebanese but almost entirely Muslim. It was attacked and destroyed by Phalangists and other Christian groups. total massacre, way more dead than Damour by a long shot. Damour was taken partly in retribution and partly just to house the survivors of Karantina.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21orCM7KkRI]The price Lebanon paid for appeasement - YouTube[/ame]
This lady pretends to be multi-cultural, fair and open minded, etc., and yet she has the exact xenophobic perspective of the Lebanese fascists, which is what I suspect she probably is.
She is bemoaning the fact that Muslims became a majority in Lebanon. NOT THEIR FAULT. Muslims don't share the Christian nationalist perspective? No, certainly not. Muslims want a re-count on political representation in Lebanon? You bet. In the long drawn out agony of Lebanon, were Muslims ever the aggressors? Sometimes. Did Muslims start the war? No. And is "Muslims" as used by this lady synonymous with "Palestinians?" No. She is trashing the Muslim Lebanese, not the Palestinians. The Palestinians knew discretion was the better part of valor and tried hard to stay out of it. It was a Lebanese internal problem.
And if you think atrocities committed by Christians were any lighter than those committed by Muslims, think again bud.
I will try to post something eventually showing the objective facts of the Lebanese civil war, in the telling of which no one is going to be shown innocent, believe me.
This lady pretends to be multi-cultural, fair and open minded, etc., and yet she has the exact xenophobic perspective of the Lebanese fascists, which is what I suspect she probably is.
She is bemoaning the fact that Muslims became a majority in Lebanon. NOT THEIR FAULT. Muslims don't share the Christian nationalist perspective? No, certainly not. Muslims want a re-count on political representation in Lebanon? You bet. In the long drawn out agony of Lebanon, were Muslims ever the aggressors? Sometimes. Did Muslims start the war? No. And is "Muslims" as used by this lady synonymous with "Palestinians?" No. She is trashing the Muslim Lebanese, not the Palestinians. The Palestinians knew discretion was the better part of valor and tried hard to stay out of it. It was a Lebanese internal problem.
And if you think atrocities committed by Christians were any lighter than those committed by Muslims, think again bud.
I will try to post something eventually showing the objective facts of the Lebanese civil war, in the telling of which no one is going to be shown innocent, believe me.
They weren't outsiders, Aris. They were native Lebanese.
but I do agree with a lot of what you say. We used to "pack" a service to get around, a Shi'ite, a Sunni, a Maronite, a Druze, a Palestinian, whoever would fit. Once my boyfriend at that time and I were kidnapped on the way to the airport and VERY narrowly escaped death. Palestinians you say? No, they were the ones who helped us, actually... It was Baalbeki's who apparently were just out for a good time and booty. They let us go, who knows why, I guess we packed the service just right, but they killed others. By the time we got to the airport the people who met us curious about what was going on told us there had been killings. so I am very lucky to be alive, along with all the others.
The woman in the above video also states that Lebanese Muslims grew in population because they have multiple wives?!?!? the entire time I lived in the middle east I knew two men with multiple wives, and neither was Lebanese. That is vanishingly uncommon. A lot of atrocities happened all the way around, but I have the feeling she is b.s.ing. I don't believe her, she seems slimy. Is she you?
