Palin Crashing Obama Surging?

Actually, it is clear that Palin is down 18 points in her approval rating since December 2008: TWO YEARS ago.

And, I'm not sure why I'd expect her approval rating among Repubs, particularly since she holds no office, to sustain itself two years after the 2008 election?

However, I would have expected Obama's approval rating to have had more effect in the November 2010 elections which his party clearly lost.

i stand corrected on that. palin is an unusual case in that she's never stopped inserting herself into the political scene. she tweets, she posts on facebook, she cahampions candidates and campaigns for them. so she's hardly out of public life. were she impressing people more and more that she was a credible candidate for 2012, her numbers would be going up. the fact that they are going down with all of her exposure is simply, at this point in time, two years out from the next election, not a good sign for her prospects. that is all, nothing more, nothing less.

and i thought it important enough to post because we have thread after thread from the palin-heads talking about how she is going to be such a great candidate. it was simply a different perspective.

there are so many reasons that obama didn't have coattails, i'm not sure where to start, but i think a lot of it is that he is personally likeable. even people who don't agree with him say he seems to be a good guy. also, during the lame duck session, he seemed to show more leadership than he did in the prior two years.

between you and me, i think he hung pelosi out to dry. and i've always suspected that he did that intentionally. that's why i laugh when i hear people talk about him being a 'socialist' and weak'. near as i can tell, he's continued to do everything that we were pissed off at bush for.

mostly, i think people were looking for cojones... any type of cojones. and he didn't show any til now.

which doesn't mean people didn't respond to the demonization of pelosi and congress.

and all of this is surmise... educated guess,... but a guess nonetheless.

so what do you think it is?

By "it" I assume you mean the contradiction between Obama's popularity, and his party's unpopularity.

My guess is that Americans, or really any mass of ignorant fools, when confronted with remarkable unfortunate circumstances, must follow someone....ANYONE, and since Obama is our president (like it or not), then he's the ONLY OPTION for many.

Unless Obama embrases his leadership role, for which he seems to have some reluctance, then he will lose it to almost anyone in 2012.
 
Actually, it is clear that Palin is down 18 points in her approval rating since December 2008: TWO YEARS ago.

And, I'm not sure why I'd expect her approval rating among Repubs, particularly since she holds no office, to sustain itself two years after the 2008 election?

However, I would have expected Obama's approval rating to have had more effect in the November 2010 elections which his party clearly lost.

i stand corrected on that. palin is an unusual case in that she's never stopped inserting herself into the political scene. she tweets, she posts on facebook, she cahampions candidates and campaigns for them. so she's hardly out of public life. were she impressing people more and more that she was a credible candidate for 2012, her numbers would be going up. the fact that they are going down with all of her exposure is simply, at this point in time, two years out from the next election, not a good sign for her prospects. that is all, nothing more, nothing less.

and i thought it important enough to post because we have thread after thread from the palin-heads talking about how she is going to be such a great candidate. it was simply a different perspective.

there are so many reasons that obama didn't have coattails, i'm not sure where to start, but i think a lot of it is that he is personally likeable. even people who don't agree with him say he seems to be a good guy. also, during the lame duck session, he seemed to show more leadership than he did in the prior two years.

between you and me, i think he hung pelosi out to dry. and i've always suspected that he did that intentionally. that's why i laugh when i hear people talk about him being a 'socialist' and weak'. near as i can tell, he's continued to do everything that we were pissed off at bush for.

mostly, i think people were looking for cojones... any type of cojones. and he didn't show any til now.

which doesn't mean people didn't respond to the demonization of pelosi and congress.

and all of this is surmise... educated guess,... but a guess nonetheless.

so what do you think it is?

By "it" I assume you mean the contradiction between Obama's popularity, and his party's unpopularity.

My guess is that Americans, or really any mass of ignorant fools, when confronted with remarkable unfortunate circumstances, must follow someone....ANYONE, and since Obama is our president (like it or not), then he's the ONLY OPTION for many.

Unless Obama embrases his leadership role, for which he seems to have some reluctance, then he will lose it to almost anyone in 2012.

i think he does seem not to be enthused about leading. it's interesting. bush was not half the person obama is on an intellectual level, yet he was always certain of his correctness. it reminds me of a judge i know who very proudly says 'i may be right; i may be wrong; but i am never uncertain'. there's a comfort in that. obama doesn't have that type of certitude.

i think whether he wins or loses in 2012 depends on the economy. it was true when clinton ran and it's true now, "it's the economy, stupid".

of course, the repubs haven't quite found a candidate yet. i think mitt would give obama a run for his money, but i don't think he'll get the chance to find out.
 
i stand corrected on that. palin is an unusual case in that she's never stopped inserting herself into the political scene. she tweets, she posts on facebook, she cahampions candidates and campaigns for them. so she's hardly out of public life. were she impressing people more and more that she was a credible candidate for 2012, her numbers would be going up. the fact that they are going down with all of her exposure is simply, at this point in time, two years out from the next election, not a good sign for her prospects. that is all, nothing more, nothing less.

and i thought it important enough to post because we have thread after thread from the palin-heads talking about how she is going to be such a great candidate. it was simply a different perspective.

there are so many reasons that obama didn't have coattails, i'm not sure where to start, but i think a lot of it is that he is personally likeable. even people who don't agree with him say he seems to be a good guy. also, during the lame duck session, he seemed to show more leadership than he did in the prior two years.

between you and me, i think he hung pelosi out to dry. and i've always suspected that he did that intentionally. that's why i laugh when i hear people talk about him being a 'socialist' and weak'. near as i can tell, he's continued to do everything that we were pissed off at bush for.

mostly, i think people were looking for cojones... any type of cojones. and he didn't show any til now.

which doesn't mean people didn't respond to the demonization of pelosi and congress.

and all of this is surmise... educated guess,... but a guess nonetheless.

so what do you think it is?

By "it" I assume you mean the contradiction between Obama's popularity, and his party's unpopularity.

My guess is that Americans, or really any mass of ignorant fools, when confronted with remarkable unfortunate circumstances, must follow someone....ANYONE, and since Obama is our president (like it or not), then he's the ONLY OPTION for many.

Unless Obama embrases his leadership role, for which he seems to have some reluctance, then he will lose it to almost anyone in 2012.

i think he does seem not to be enthused about leading. it's interesting. bush was not half the person obama is on an intellectual level, yet he was always certain of his correctness. it reminds me of a judge i know who very proudly says 'i may be right; i may be wrong; but i am never uncertain'. there's a comfort in that. obama doesn't have that type of certitude.

i think whether he wins or loses in 2012 depends on the economy. it was true when clinton ran and it's true now, "it's the economy, stupid".

of course, the repubs haven't quite found a candidate yet. i think mitt would give obama a run for his money, but i don't think he'll get the chance to find out.

Speculating about what the weather will be like in November 2012 isn't as interesting as what the political atmosphere will be like, but its probably as accurate.

Frankly, rather than concentrating on finding potential repblican candidates to target for character assasination during the next 18 months, the Dems would do well to pre-empt the Repubs and offer substantial decreases in the federal budget and legislation allowing states to reduce their budgets in areas designed to meet absurd Federal Regulatory Requirements.
 
Most Americans do not vote, can't tell you who their state representative is and follow Dancing with the Stars and Pro Wrasslin.
They have a hard time figuring out how to balance a bank statement.
Maybe 5% of the "masses" "follow" a political leader.
 
Most Americans do not vote, can't tell you who their state representative is and follow Dancing with the Stars and Pro Wrasslin.
They have a hard time figuring out how to balance a bank statement.
Maybe 5% of the "masses" "follow" a political leader.

That's what happens when 50% of the populace don't have a stake in building this country. We need tax reform more than anything else.
 
Most Americans do not vote, can't tell you who their state representative is and follow Dancing with the Stars and Pro Wrasslin.
They have a hard time figuring out how to balance a bank statement.
Maybe 5% of the "masses" "follow" a political leader.

That's what happens when 50% of the populace don't have a stake in building this country. We need tax reform more than anything else.

If 5% of the taxpayers are paying 60% of the federal income tax while 7% of Americans owning 84% of the wealth, yes, we need tax reform.
 
LOL, we keep hearing about how the Obama is suppose to have all this "intellect".

but I sure as hell ain't seen it. Ever see him speak without his trusty Teleprompter.

it's figgen hilarious.

and of course we haven't SEEN ANY of his school records that PROVES he is SO DAMN INTELLIGENT, just like we haven't seen his LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

but hey, as long as the lefties THINK he is this intellectual giant, that is ALL that matters, isn't it?:lol:
 
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Most Americans do not vote, can't tell you who their state representative is and follow Dancing with the Stars and Pro Wrasslin.
They have a hard time figuring out how to balance a bank statement.
Maybe 5% of the "masses" "follow" a political leader.

That's what happens when 50% of the populace don't have a stake in building this country. We need tax reform more than anything else.

If 5% of the taxpayers are paying 60% of the federal income tax while 7% of Americans owning 84% of the wealth, yes, we need tax reform.
did that make any sense to ANYONE
libs please respond if it did to you as well
 
That's what happens when 50% of the populace don't have a stake in building this country. We need tax reform more than anything else.

If 5% of the taxpayers are paying 60% of the federal income tax while 7% of Americans owning 84% of the wealth, yes, we need tax reform.
did that make any sense to ANYONE
libs please respond if it did to you as well

I read it three times and it made less sense each time.

Then again, what do we expect from the Obama-Supporting, Marxist defender wing of the "Republican" party?
 
Frank cannot define marxism, marxian economics, socialism, social democracy, republicanism, and so forth. Thus I am not too concerned with Frank and his fantasies.
 
Frank cannot define marxism, marxian economics, socialism, social democracy, republicanism, and so forth. Thus I am not too concerned with Frank and his fantasies.
do you think you could translate your gibberish into actual English?
 
LOL, we keep hearing about how the Obama is suppose to have all this "intellect".

but I sure as hell ain't seen it. Ever see him speak without his trusty Teleprompter.

it's figgen hilarious.

and of course we haven't SEEN ANY of his school records that PROVES he is SO DAMN INTELLIGENT, just like we haven't seen his LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

but hey, as long as the lefties THINK he is this intellectual giant, that is ALL that matters, isn't it?:lol:

ll this intellect? You ain't seen it? :lol:
 
LOL, we keep hearing about how the Obama is suppose to have all this "intellect".

but I sure as hell ain't seen it. Ever see him speak without his trusty Teleprompter.

it's figgen hilarious.

and of course we haven't SEEN ANY of his school records that PROVES he is SO DAMN INTELLIGENT, just like we haven't seen his LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

but hey, as long as the lefties THINK he is this intellectual giant, that is ALL that matters, isn't it?:lol:

ll this intellect? You ain't seen it? :lol:
well, once you take away his teleprompter, you get 57 states and giving breathalyzers to kids

;)
 
LOL, we keep hearing about how the Obama is suppose to have all this "intellect".

but I sure as hell ain't seen it. Ever see him speak without his trusty Teleprompter.

it's figgen hilarious.

and of course we haven't SEEN ANY of his school records that PROVES he is SO DAMN INTELLIGENT, just like we haven't seen his LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

but hey, as long as the lefties THINK he is this intellectual giant, that is ALL that matters, isn't it?:lol:

ll this intellect? You ain't seen it? :lol:
well, once you take away his teleprompter, you get 57 states and giving breathalyzers to kids

;)

That's kind of old and worn, doncha think, DiveCon?

You need some new material like we get everyday from Sarah Palin.
 
Frank cannot define marxism, marxian economics, socialism, social democracy, republicanism, and so forth. Thus I am not too concerned with Frank and his fantasies.

Right because your Article 15 fantasies occupy you.

Your posts all run downhill right after the "Hi, I'm Jake..." part
 
LOL, we keep hearing about how the Obama is suppose to have all this "intellect".

but I sure as hell ain't seen it. Ever see him speak without his trusty Teleprompter.

it's figgen hilarious.

and of course we haven't SEEN ANY of his school records that PROVES he is SO DAMN INTELLIGENT, just like we haven't seen his LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

but hey, as long as the lefties THINK he is this intellectual giant, that is ALL that matters, isn't it?:lol:

ll this intellect? You ain't seen it? :lol:

yes my dear, I through the Ain't in there just for people like you.:lol:
 
That's what happens when 50% of the populace don't have a stake in building this country. We need tax reform more than anything else.

If 5% of the taxpayers are paying 60% of the federal income tax while 7% of Americans owning 84% of the wealth, yes, we need tax reform.
did that make any sense to ANYONE
libs please respond if it did to you as well

It makes sense, but I don't know how relevant it is. Statistics are stupid.
 
Cuyo understands the drift: where much has been given, much is expected.

Interesting thought: notice that when the frontier "closed" before 1900, the Progressive Age (earlier antecedents can be found in rural America in the granges) begins shortly thereafter.
 

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