Past time for Republicans to pick a side

Leftists are fuckin' goofballs. They know they're going to lose in 2022 and 2024, so all they can resort to is to desperately try to discourage Republican voters.

Are they really so ignorant that they think threads like this are going to win people over to their side? :laughing0301:

They are
 
I think it is the other way around. More people are being convinced the election was stolen. That number will continue to grow the more Trump talks about it. You cannot lie forever and people have figured it out. It is downhill for you from now on.

The evidence is overwhelming -
The remedy is either not clear at best, or non-existent.
 
They reject the ceremony being celebrated, again, they had sold them cakes in the past, point of sale non custom items.

You are wrong. Once you get the government involved to force people to do something, any claim of individualism goes out the fucking window.
You’re trying so desperately to avoid the fact that the baker is against the individualism of the gay couple. The thing that makes them gay, being with someone of the same sex, is what they’re against. It’s not the ceremony. It’s the people in it.

That’s why you don’t get to claim support for individualism. You only support the kinds of individualism that you approve of.
 
You’re trying so desperately to avoid the fact that the baker is against the individualism of the gay couple. The thing that makes them gay, being with someone of the same sex, is what they’re against. It’s not the ceremony. It’s the people in it.

That’s why you don’t get to claim support for individualism. You only support the kinds of individualism that you approve of.

The gay person's individualism is destroyed by not getting a specific cake from a specific baker?
If it was the people, then why did they sell them point of sale items?

Your attempt to re-define individualism is failing spectacularly

So, by your logic, how is the gay couple respecting the bakers individualism by forcing them to bake a cake they don't want to bake? Isn't that making them violate their religious beliefs?
 
The gay person's individualism is destroyed by not getting a specific cake from a specific baker?
If it was the people, then why did they sell them point of sale items?

Your attempt to re-define individualism is failing spectacularly

So, by your logic, how is the gay couple respecting the bakers individualism by forcing them to bake a cake they don't want to bake? Isn't that making them violate their religious beliefs?
Never said their individualism was destroyed, I’m saying it’s not being respected. They are being denied service because of who they are as individuals. They do not meet the list of approved criteria so they are denied.

There’s no redefinition here. Just that you don’t want to admit the facts.

The baker’s individualism is respected. The gay couple is not changing anything about who the baker is and not judging the choices they’ve made for themselves.
 
Never said their individualism was destroyed, I’m saying it’s not being respected. They are being denied service because of who they are as individuals. They do not meet the list of approved criteria so they are denied.

There’s no redefinition here. Just that you don’t want to admit the facts.

The baker’s individualism is respected. The gay couple is not changing anything about who the baker is and not judging the choices they’ve made for themselves.

So their right to a cake overrides the bakers right to free exercise?

They would be forced to make something that is used to celebrate a relationship they disapprove of and find sinful.

Would you be OK being forced to make a Nazi cake if you were a baker?
 
So their right to a cake overrides the bakers right to free exercise?

They would be forced to make something that is used to celebrate a relationship they disapprove of and find sinful.

Would you be OK being forced to make a Nazi cake if you were a baker?
They’re not asking for the baker to celebrate anything. They’re not asking for a religious practice.

They’re asking for a cake.

You’re still refusing to admit that the baker is denying their individualism. They are against what makes the gay couple themselves.

Are you comparing gay people to nazis now?
 
They’re not asking for the baker to celebrate anything. They’re not asking for a religious practice.

They’re asking for a cake.

You’re still refusing to admit that the baker is denying their individualism. They are against what makes the gay couple themselves.

Are you comparing gay people to nazis now?

They aren't denying anything except wanting to participate in their ceremony. making a custom cake is participating.

They find homosexuality sinful, are you saying that idea needs to be banned for the gays to be "individuals"

I was picking something you (hopefully) don't like to see if you can put yourself in the baker's shoes. Evidently you can't.
 

I love the last sentence of this article made by Adam Kinzinger that Republicans have to pick a side, Trump or the Constitution.

They can't have it both ways much as they want to. Trump carries a lot of tarnish with him and some of it rubs off on anyone who associates with him. With the outstanding work being done by the January 6 Committee, Republicans may realize that sooner rather than later.

Bigly!!!
Pence could not of changed the outcome on January 6th, whether Trump wanted him to or not. All he is, is a figurehead that is only allowed to certify, not overturn.


We were not even close to overturning an election.
 
They aren't denying anything except wanting to participate in their ceremony. making a custom cake is participating.

They find homosexuality sinful, are you saying that idea needs to be banned for the gays to be "individuals"

I was picking something you (hopefully) don't like to see if you can put yourself in the baker's shoes. Evidently you can't.
Sure the are. They’re denying that gay people can be gay. If they think being gay is sinful, fine! No problem. Don’t be gay. Couldn’t care less.

You’re comparison is absurd for many reasons. The gay couple isn’t hurting anyone. Nazis, well, they’re genocidal. Just one of many important distinctions.
 
Sure the are. They’re denying that gay people can be gay. If they think being gay is sinful, fine! No problem. Don’t be gay. Couldn’t care less.

You’re comparison is absurd for many reasons. The gay couple isn’t hurting anyone. Nazis, well, they’re genocidal. Just one of many important distinctions.

These people are still gay even if they had to go to another baker for a cake. You are again advocating forced acceptance rather than tolerance.

But it's just making said Nazis a cake, right? Are you saying you would then be advocating for the Nazis if you were forced to make a Nazi cake for them?
 
These people are still gay even if they had to go to another baker for a cake. You are again advocating forced acceptance rather than tolerance.

But it's just making said Nazis a cake, right? Are you saying you would then be advocating for the Nazis if you were forced to make a Nazi cake for them?
At no point in time am I discussing any force.

All I’m saying is that the baker is the one opposed to individualism here. They don’t accept the gay couple because they don’t accept the individual choices they’ve made that have no impact whatsoever on the baker.

And you support them.

That demonstrates your supposed belief in individualism is a fraud.
 
They don’t want to bake a cake for people because they’re not the right kind of people. They reject their individualism.

That’s why you don’t want to admit that the bakers here are the ones going against individualism. You will do anything to deny this.
It doesn't matter what individuals do, moron. It only matters what the government does. You apparently believe individualism means having the government force everyone to act according to your agenda. That's exactly the opposite of individualism.
 
At no point in time am I discussing any force.

All I’m saying is that the baker is the one opposed to individualism here. They don’t accept the gay couple because they don’t accept the individual choices they’ve made that have no impact whatsoever on the baker.

And you support them.

That demonstrates your supposed belief in individualism is a fraud.
Of course you are discussing force. You want the government to force the baker to adopt your moral code and the moral code of the baker. If not, then what exactly are you advocating? How is forcing the baker to accept the moral code of homosexuals "individualism?"
 
They voted no but took the dough Repub scum

They vote against it and then take credit. Go figure.​

We all knew GOPers will take credit for funding public works that they voted against.
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It's not a surprise. It's what hypocrites do.
 
They voted no but took the dough Repub scum

They vote against it and then take credit. Go figure.​


We all knew GOPers will take credit for funding public works that they voted against.
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It's not a surprise. It's what hypocrites do.
So anyone who objects to a DIM boondoggle isn't entitled to receive the benefits his taxes pay for?

You realize you are a fucking NAZI, don't you?
 
At no point in time am I discussing any force.

All I’m saying is that the baker is the one opposed to individualism here. They don’t accept the gay couple because they don’t accept the individual choices they’ve made that have no impact whatsoever on the baker.

And you support them.

That demonstrates your supposed belief in individualism is a fraud.

When the government says bake, or go out of business, or pay $375k in fines, the force is inherent.

No, they are not. They are exercising their individual right to free exercise.

Sorry, but saying homosexuality is sinful and not wanting to bake one cake is not denying anyone their individuality. Forcing the baker to accept homosexuality as moral or ignore their own morals is ignoring the individual rights of the baker.

Your conclusion is invalid, no matter how much you try to make it appear logical.
 

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